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4 cents per line for speech editor/voice recognition

Posted By: Michele on 2007-01-22
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Is this a decent pay?


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Line requirements in Voice Recognition

For those of you that do VR, I was wondering what your hourly  or daily line requirments are, if you work part-time or full-time, and how many hours you work per day.  Newbie in the field and I was just wondering what the "norm" out there was. 


ASR = automatic speech recognition
which is the same thing as basically any other voice recognition system. It all sucks and still takes just as long, sometimes longer, than standard transcription and the system is never as good at doing its job as the makers try to make people believe. Therefore, it is the MT who has to get in there and clean up the mess. That can be anywhere, not just an MQ issue.

As far as the rest, it just sounds like the company made some changes that ruffled the feathers of a few MTs. Clearly, some talk-the-talk of leaving and may do so, it's a free country. But, others still stay. The confusion is about how bad is bad. If I were in my 20s and felt like the company I was working for was jerking me around - I'd be gone in a New York minute. But, I am a whole lot older than that and have built up a buffer of sorts over time and feel that many things I thought were so important (or infuriating) in my 20s is pretty petty and lame now. So, it's hard to tell what is real and what is just gossip and pot-stirring.

I've read some compelling posts. Some quite interesting. Some insinuate the company doesn't care about the MT. How much caring do you need? When I'm hired to do a job, that is my focus. I do not want nor expect my employer to nurtur me and tuck me into bed at night. Just let me do my job and leave me alone. What's wrong with that? I am, however, concerned about this uneven workload where some MTs have little to no work, while others have an abundance. That's just poor management.

If no one wants to give the "real deal" of what it is like working there, that is fine. All I could do was ask.

So, thanks anyway.
Does speech recognition really give you less typing?
TTS, LLC says that you really only have to proofread.  Does anyone know if this is true?
Voice Recognition
Hi everyone, I have a general question about voice recognition. Is it worth the investment to buy a voice recognition program for a medical Transcriptionist working from home? I ask because I have only been doing this for about 2 months, recently graduated from a MT program at Kennesaw State in Georgia, and I feel as if even after I get the experience and even being a fast typer like I am, I am never going to be able to earn enough doing this where I can move out on my own. I live with my mom right now. So I had the idea of a voice recognition program in combination with my own typing. I realize that voice recognition is not perfect so I would edit as I typed. I know there are a few hospitals going this route now so I figured why not me. I would love opinions on this. Thanks.
Voice Recognition
No! No! No! Voice recognition is nowhere where it needs to be right now. Very few dictators enunciate clearly enough for the system. It is very expensive and we just got it in our hospital and are very very disappointed with the results. Out of over 1000 doctors, only about 10 of them speak clearly enough to produce good results. In about another 5 years, hopefully things will improve. By the way, we have Dolbey Voice.
VOICE RECOGNITION

I am new entrant in the MT field and find typing long hours real punishing.  I want to share the experience of anyone who has tried voice recognition technology and its practical use in reducing typing work load and speeding up work.  I have tried it myself and find the process of correcting the output to be as time-consuming as doing it manually.


ASR, VR or other voice recognition

programs.  Does anybody have any advice on how to zip through these reports like we are apparently supposed to be doing?  I find editing often takes much longer than it would have taken me to type it straight out.  It's not so bad when dictators are really good, but most do present daily challenges.  It is so frustrating.  I am open to whatever advice you have to improve my editing skills. 


God bless and thank you in advance.


VR = Voice Recognition
Also referred to by other similar names. Basically, what it means is that dictated reports are run through software systems that are supposed to recognize the speaker and speaker's words and transfer them to a transcribed report. Then that report is supposed to be lightly and quickly edited for correct wording, punctuation, etc. What none of these VR systems can do is ignore background noise and extraneous sounds or even understand the dictator who is talking while chewing gum, eating or for Heaven's sake anything else. VR cannot determine the difference between the identified MD and the PA, NP or whomever is actually dictating the report for that MD. VR will not necessarily get the correct word when it does understand the correct word (ex: 2, to, too, two or fair/fare, or by/buy, etc.) VR cannot think or reason. It cannot go back and change anything the dictator requests to be changed or added. It never knows what to do with "um, next, a, and stuttering."

All VR software will add and leave out words. I've never worked on any VR report that did not require just about as much work as standard transcription. They all need something. In fact, some are so bad that it is just easier to delete everything the system puts in and retype the whole thing from scratch. And companies want to pay rather poorly for us to edit these reports. VR is a mess everywhere.


US real MTs or US voice recognition?
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Voice Recognition/ Dying Breed????

Hello!


I have been scriping and saving to afford going to MT school.  Now two ladies that I know, wives of doctors, have warned me not to spend my time and money on MT school because MTs are a dying breed and voice recognition technology is taking over the MTs work, all that is needed now are people to do data entry which pays very little.  Is this true??? Something to worry about in the future or are they just uninformed about what it is that MTs do?  Any imput would be greatly appreciated!!!


Thanks in advace,


~Kate


Editing, Voice Recognition, Mentors
I need some information please. Can someone fill me in on Editing, Voice Recognition (I know what it is but don't know how about it in terms of a transcriptionist's duties), and also, can you find someone to mentor you to become a Transcriptionist and how would you find such a person?
9 cents per 65 character line and 9 cents every 65 char are two different things.
do they take your character count and divide by 65, or do you have a line length of 65 and you are paid for however many lines are on a page.
Only if you'll get into voice recognition and editorship. Look at how many hits a job on the job
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7 cents a line
I graduated in Aug - my first job finally came in Sept/Oct they started me out at 7 cents doing orthro clinics.
Cents per line...

Yes, at 6 or 7 cents a line, that is strictly training wages.  Don't settle for anything like that, especially if you have experience and you know you are good at what you do.  These companies make anywhere from 14.5 cents on up for the work they receive throughout outsourcing so, in essence, whatever you make, they make, except you are the one doing all of the work, paying for your phone line/internet, etc.


If they only want to pay 6 or 7 cents a line, let them get new grads or someone with no experience, that way they will get what they pay for.


Cents per line
This is a post of new graduates or soon-to-be graduates, who need to gain experience. !!!
I charged 14 cents per line.
I drove every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday to pick up and deliver work. I had six accounts in one building and had them for seven years. I recently let them go because I moved and no longer wanted to drive. You definitely charge more. Think of how much time you spend printing, delivering and picking up. It is much more cost on your part than working for a service and doing everything on line.
Oooh... 3 cents per line.
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Yes, 9 cents per 65-character line.
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6 cents a line and happy
Hmmmmm....you must not have any real bills, just blow by money eh?
6 or 7 cents a line for EXPERIENCED transcriptionists? SM
I don't think any self-respecting experienced MT will work for you for that kind of money.  I know for sure I wouldn't.  Do you think we're all that hard up for work?  It's an insult to our intelligence, knowledge, job skills, etc.  You are a joke.
when every newbie gets a job right out of school at 6 cents per line, I will say they are worth 6 nm
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Are there companies offering 7 cents a line to new graduates? sm
This person has been offered 6 cents a line but I know the company and getting a raise will be like pulling teeth even if you do excellent work. This graduate will be doing acute care and feel like 6 cents is okay for clinic but 7 cents is more in line for acute care. This student graduated with honors from MT course.
I think you can expect to get 5 to 7 cents per 65-character line as a newbie. I started at 7 cpl as
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QA/Editor
Does anyone know of any good companies hiring QA or editors.  I am looking for a new company to work for.  Thanks
Newbies are not editor material SM
Newbies do not have the proper training to be editors.  An Editor should have at least five years or more of transription experience.  Good luck with it because you are sure going to need it.
Gross line means anything on a line is a line, even if just one word
it is counted as a line.  Not sure what exactly you are asking, but if you are comparing gross line to the usual 65 characters plus spaces gross line is better.  If you make 7.5 cpl per gross line that equals approximately 9.5 cpl based on 65 characters. 
Orion Transcription/Vital Lines/Speech 4 Me

I am a newbie and have been dealing with these three companies about the possibility of working with them.  Does anyone have any information on any of the three companies? Good or bad.


 


Are you getting your line count from your program or can you use the line counting software to do
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You open your voice files with sm
whatever software you're using for voice, i.e. Wavpedal, etc.  You don't open them in Word.
i need sample voice files to practice

I need help. I am a recent graduate and I would like to know what websites offer free sample voice files where I can practice.  Thanks


A wav file is not short for waveform. It is a voice
file that you would receive over the internet, not via C-phone.  You need software/foot pedal to be able to play the wav files.  Wav is pretty much the generic term, but there are many different formats, like mp3, DSS, etc. that the files could be in. 
Why did you choose this post to voice your opinion?
It appears as if the OP was so happy about passing the test and receiving that phone call that she rushed to the computer to share her good news with the world. Would it have been so awful to just wish her luck and share her joy? I have been an MT for a year, and I still feel proud and happy each time I pass a test. It is hard for a newbie or someone with less than 2-3 years of experience to get a company to even let you test. When you then pass the test and get a phone call, that is veryexciting and makes you feel good. You could have wished her luck publicly and then sent her an email making her aware of her mistakes along with some tips. This New MTs forum is the last place on this board to post a message like yours.

Why can't some people just let others feel good about themselves?

I'm confused ... you should be opening the voice files (sm)

in express scribe or some program like that.  Word 2007 is used only for typing the actual files you're listening too, it has nothing to do with opening .wav files or anything other than text files.


 


 


Thanks 2 cents
sounds good to me.
My 2 cents
While I do agree it is important to get a good education, I have to disagree with the people on this board that seem to think that the only way to get a job is to go to one of the top three.

This has not been the case for me, or for many people that I know. In fact, the school I went to is quite frowned upon, but I feel very good in how I am doing. Yes, if I had done my homework before starting school I probably would have taken a different course. The fact is that those of us that did not go to the top three deserve the chance to be viewed as an MT, not as a school project.

If someone were on here asking what school to go to, I would tell them that the top three are the best place to look. However, if they are here looking for guidance after the fact, I would never tell them that they are second class, and that is the viewpoint that I, and probably more people, see when we read this board.
My 2 cents...sm
I don't think it's meant to be a negative thing.  I will soon hit my 3-year mark as an MT, so it makes me wonder how long one is considered a newbie.  I consider myself  - experienced - in that I can do a lot of work types and specialities, but I am absolutely still learning something new nearly every day, which I think is a good thing.
my two cents
I also have spent 2 years of my life and $16,000 to be trained in the Medical Office Field. With the negativity and attitude from the experienced MTs at these sites I am realizing they soon may no longer need sites like this. Overseas MT's will be the only MT's receiving any training...how sad!!! I can't figure out why someone with a talent would not want to mentor others!
My Two Cents
Almost every reputable company that hires new graduates provides full QA and training at no cost to the employee/IC. A reputable company that provides quality product to their clients will not let newbie loose on an account with it. Of course, you do have to have an education from a good school and the knowledge and skill to be able to pass their employment test. Take some time and check out some other companies using one of MT resource sites. It should be very enlightening. Remember, many companies will waive their experience requirements for graduates from schools such as Andrews and M-Tec. Very few, if any, of their graduates have ever had to pay to work.

This crud about having to pay for or not being paid during an internship/training is a direct result of AAMT/ADHI's push for apprenticeships for the profession. There were very few of these "opportunities" prior to the apprenticeship talk, and the ones that were out there were known scams. Now it just another way to maximize the bottom line while taking advantage of newbies who are lacking proper education or confidence or ability or are just desperate to get a foot in the door.

My two cents....
I graduated in August as well, and after applying to dozens of companies I finally accepted an IC position with a company.  I figured at least I would be getting some experience until something better comes along.  I have only been working 3 weeks and I am glad I made that decision.  You have to start somewhere, and it is so hard finding that first job.  I figure once I get some experience, then maybe a better offer will come along such as a position that pays hourly rather than by the line and one that will hire me as an employee and provide benefits.  I am just as new to this career as you, but I think we need to gain experience before we will find something better.  Good luck in your endeavors and hang in there!!
My 2 cents.

in your post.  For anyone who is interested, not all documents need be prepared to perfection.  Some dictators like you to transcribe what they say and have coined phrases and refuse to have it transcribed any other way.  So please, do not put forth that this profession is based solely on proper ANYTHING because it isn not.  I have 19 years of experience in this field and was trained in a 4-year program.  No, I am not a CMT because it is not a requirement to be an accurate transcriptionist.  Thanks for listening.   


P/S:  Any nurses, I feel, would be fine with transcribing since they are used to the medical terminology.  However, typing speed is a plus as well, but not necessary.  Accuracy is the key.  Speed comes with time!!!! 


I got 6 cents right out school.

Even as a newbie, I think 3 cents would be an insult.


Here is my 2 cents worth
Sometimes clinic work won't really be for a few doctors, it'll be for a system of clinics often with very, very short reports with just as much fact checking and account specs as any other place. You might be surprised and find your speed much slower for a while, I know I was.

Teaching hospitals often have the best and the worst of dictators. Residents are honing their craft and learning to dictate well is a part of that. I think we all have to bear with them. Eventually, they will improve.

As for the group of seven hospitals all with different specs, sure it will take you a while to get up to speed. It would take anyone a while to get up to speed. Granted it would be very nice if the company you work for would just give you one hospital per month to get a good grip on the specs before adding another. But, unfortunately, MTSOs are not so considerate anymore. You do sound to be learning them and basically doing okay.

My first MT job was for a teaching hospital too, only there I could do operative notes, but no ER. I had to look up a lot of words/phrases here and there. I looked up things just to make sure I knew what they were. I probably wasted a lot of time. For my efforts, I started off making less than minimum wage and was stuck at about $4.00 per hour for close to a year as far as speed goes, so I would work 12 hour days or as long as I could in a day. But after a while, I broke that and started to make a bit more per hour and in my day. I discovered I was flying through some dictators, while others still held me back. Eventually, it does get better if you hang in there. We who work at home are production employees or ICs and not hourly employees. I started feeling better about my speed, production and myself once I put that into perspective. I also increased my speed and production once I got it off my mind and concentrated on each job at hand. I also set myself line goals for the day, say 800, 1000 or 1200, whatever you feel comfortable with and worked steadily until I met that daily line count, which increased my pay also.

I did not start using ShortHand until I was working for about a year. It certainly does help. Anymore I do so much editing that it is not as much help as I had hoped it would be. I think that really depends on the account(s) you have. Shorthand is nice, but is limited with editing. And as far as editing goes, it is crap everywhere. I just decided to bite the bullet and accept it. I actually don't mind it so much now. But, again, that really depends on the account as some are better than others.

I sincerely do not think you should beat yourself up over your concerns. Despite what schools and MT advertisements tell us, it really does take a while to learn to be a really good MT. We all have been where you are (and some of us never thought we'd get through it to make decent money), but with continued practice, patience and confidence in yourself, it will all get better. I myself would think twice about leaving any job right now in this economy. I've had enough jobs so far to know the grass isn't always greener in another pasture.

I hope my perspective was helpful to you. It is, after all, only my opinion.

God bless you.
If I get paid 7 cents per 65-Character.....
by electonic character count, do you think that would be with spaces or without?

Anyone? Not sure!

Thanks!!
6 or 7 cents? :::snorting::: I made 7.5 at the job I landed even BEFORE I graduated from (lm)

The School That Dare Not Speak Its Name.  I then left that job for another one making 8 cents.  I am now making 8 cents a line from home, and my one-year anniversary of graduating from MT training is not until May. 


Six or seven cents?  Not in THIS life.  And I have had NO trouble finding jobs.  I still get people calling me based on the resumes I sent out back when I first started looking, and I have to tell them I am no longer looking for work. 


Nice try, MTSO.  But trying to convince people to work for 6 or 7 cents a line shouldn't play as long as some of us are here to bring a little reality into the situation. 


I'm sure you'd be first in line for it, right?

The VLC has had numerous complaints against them and people demanding refunds.  I was in a position to KNOW that people that couldn't get jobs because they couldn't pass MT employment tests after the VLC course.  How is that being immature?  Evidently, you're one of the VLC reps lurking on the boards so you can jump in and refer your school.  Otherwise, you wouldn't be taking it so personally.


$ per line?
As a recent graduate and new MT, could someone tell me what a fair salary is, per line of transcription? Thanks so much.
How much per line?
I also do voice recognition as well as straight transcription. I have been an MT for about 2 years now and started off doing voice recognition and I love it. I now do about 1800 to 2100 lines per day (voice recognition). I started off with a company doing vr and was only making 2.5 to 3 cents per line and I stayed with them for about 18 months and after the raises I was making 4.25 cents per line. However, that was an IC position and I wanted benefits so I started taking as many online tests as possible with companies that offer employee status and not IC. I wanted to get benefits. So, eventually I passed the tests for about 6 different companies and I got to pick which one I wanted to go with instead of begging for someone to hire me.

I would take some tests online on the days that you are not working perhaps on the weekends or evenings and see if you pass the tests. It can't hurt at all. I am now working with a new company and I am currently making 6 cents per line and this is for voice recognition, which is pretty darn good doing about 1800 lines per day. You will not know until you try. E-mail me if you have any other questions.
Maybe not out of line...
but not a very good *cooperative* attitude.
line count

Can someone please help me with the whole line count, WPM, total dollars concept. I'm trying to figure out my potential income doing MT. I know there are a range of answers but there must be some averages. I would be brand new at MT. What's your best guess of amount of work in say a 6 hour/day schedule? After 6 months experience? Thanks in advance for your help!


best on-line courses?

Hi all,


I'd like to take an on-line MT course; can anyone recommend one over any others? I plan on doing an internship for experience when I'm done for a while so I can get an actual paid position. How hard will it be to start working from home as I have a 20 month old that I want to stay at home with.


Thanks!