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Uh, you're missing my tongue-in-cheek point! :)) NM

Posted By: SadKat on 2007-11-07
In Reply to: Can you start an IV, put in a catheter, change a colostomy - Wannie

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you are all missing the point!
MANY companies hire even before graduation if you went to a good school and are able to pass their employment test.
you are missing the point - I am happily employed too but I see it's not going to last

you don't get to keep jobs by "wishing" you know. I am making anywhere from 12c to 14c to 19c on my own accounts but that doesn't change the fact that technology will virtually eliminate MT as we know it in the next decade. Nothing wrong with teaching newbies how to watch and analyze trends.


You're missing all the comments on the MQ board! Read some more;
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It still doesn't sound like you're getting the point

It would be great if we could just do our job, but when you're thrown into a national workpool where some MTs are getting 45 different clients with 45 different client profiles to try and keep straight on any given shift, that's next to impossible.  I don't think any of the MTs want to be nurtured, but some simple respect would be a step in the right direction.


What else do you want to know?  Some of the service areas have gone through numerous production supervisors in a short amount of time so that an MT may never know who they are supposed to report to or direct questions to, especially if a PS doesn't answer e-mails.  (I am fortunate in that I have a PS who is very good with communication). 


Add to the national work pool the fact that daily bonuses that a lot of the MTs depended on as part of their pay were done away with and with very little notice .  This was replaced with a quarterly bonus, the formula of which is so convoluted and confusing, I have no idea how it's even calculated.  If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, confuse them with BS, I guess.


This is the "real deal" from where I'm sitting for the next 2 weeks before I go elsewhere. 



 


oh my god, I bit my tongue from saying what I want to say -
to you. I hope to God that your paycheck and your husband or lover or partner or whatever's paycheck can support the unemployment rate in this country because of offshoring.

I am truly holding back from what I want to say to you, but I reall hope that someday you lose everything you own because you cannot get a job or afford to pay your bills because some DEPENDABLE Indian took it from you.
someboy else say it, i'm biting my tongue
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Missing an opportunity
You didn't even mention where you are. You never know who might be reading ...
I recently had missing reports,
but I found out that I had not signed in or out correctly so the reports for that day were not counted in the total "clocked in" amount. They were accounted for and paid, but just did not show when I checked my status. With this company, I have to clock in and out. What got confusing was that sometimes the platform did not ask me to clock in, although I always exited and logged out. Maybe your problem is as simple as mine was, just a thought.


will not - not if you're competent. If you're incompetent they will fire you anyway
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Need to finish...don't buy something like this until you're positive it's job you're goi
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You're not a "new MT" if you have no training, you're not an MT at all. nm
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That's my point
Do you think that Donald Trump or Bill Gates gave up and stopped trying after someone said "you need two year minimum experience"

The answer is NO!! And look where they are today.

I am sick to death of MTSO saying they won't hire someone becuase they don't have the minimum experience.

I think that all anyone is asking is that you give the Newbie's a chance to show them what they can do.

I know plenty of people with experience in the MT field who might as well quit and go flip burgers!!

I say stop bashing the Newbies and give them a chance!!
And that's EXACTLY the point!
It would make your toes curl if you could see what kind of work so many of these so-called schools are provided these gals with.  I get interns every week who say "I have learned more from you in the last month than I did the whole time I was in school..." and that includes interns from a wide variety of schools.  It's a shame that that's the way it is, but I assure you there is most definitely a need for mentoring programs and I don't see any chance of that changing in the near future!  As for scams, we have had multiple graduates of the AIM Program hired on as employees...and in fact all but maybe 1% are working as MTs now (and the few I know who aren't have chosen different career paths.)  Talk to some of my former and current mentors....or some of the MTSOs I have been working with for the last 20+ years.  I think you will find that we are very much legit and very much have the best interest of the interns in mind.  Believe me, I could make a lot more money doing something besides mentoring...I do this because this is what I love to do and because I see a real NEED for the services we offer.
My point is you need to get over yourself.
This person starting the thread has a right to try any career she wants without you badgering and making her feel like she has not a grasp of the English language in your know-it-all posts!  No one is perfect including you!  We all live and learn.  We have all done our time!  Get over yourself already, geez! 
My point exactly!
If you've graduated from a lousy school and can't get employment, it's better to pay 100$ for experience than 1500$ to start all over from scratch.
lol, point taken
Really, if someone were to judge my skills based on that; it would not be good. :) Anyhow, I am doing all I can to get into this business. Persistence has to pay off sometime. Every "no" I hear, brings me that much closer to the sweet sound of "yes, come work with us." :)
good point

Knowing that pay=production can be a great motivator, especially if you are working for a company that provides consistent work flow and good HR relations.


Thanks for your input.


Good point!
Peggy, what excellent advice! I had not heard it put that way, and after thinking about it, I know you're right! thanks for opening my eyes to think "bigger".... better to be excellent, and more "employable", than to be somewhat limiting. I do plan to study in such a way as to be excellent! That's just the way I'm "built"! :) thanks again for your post.... -Anne (amh) :)
Good point..lol
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GOOD POINT
I'm glad that this was brought up. I have often wondered myself. What encourages me is that there is always something new to learn. Even the MTs who have been in this for years admits it themselves.

I am still a newbie but being an IC helps a lot in learning different areas in this field. I am thankful that my contact "feeds" me work from a new field gradually when she thinks that I am already catching on with the one she gave me prior. I say "catching on" because I can get comfortable with surgery and here comes a new case with totally different words that I need to research on.

Just like a former professor of mine said - "the more you know, the more you realize that there is still much to learn."


And your point would be? He did exceptionally well for
himself.  Doesn't mean everybody could do it.  Everybody can't transition from nursing to MT, but some can. 
Point proven again.
Ow! Now I fell off my chair laughing.

Slowly for all following along. If you can't find a job even with training, just being a nurse will be worse.

OK. I think everyone has it now. For anyone who doesn't, that's fine. I only want to convince those who aren't an MT yet. Don't care about people already working so unbunch the old undies.
Just a minor point
Speaking only for myself, I do a load of ESL dictators. It is almost a sub-specialty of mine. However, and I'm guessing a lot of us ol' timers can say this, I like to get dictators that are EFL now and then. And the person that has been doing transcription for five years might have an easier time with them, too (as opposed to my 25+ years). But if they feed all the good and easy stuff to the newbies, the rest of us won't get that break from Gregor Svaslkdfjkjahsdfkjhsadfov or Mohit Chenaidehlimumbai. Considering there usually is not that much difference in pay scales between newbs and the transcription elders, it doesn't seem right to skim off the cream for the newbs. Maybe you should try doing doctors' offices and then you can select which docs you want (although also keep in mind that there are some native sons who are much harder to type than most of the ESL guys).
I understand your point (sm)
I just do not agree with you in this case.  I believe this board is a place where people come to relax.  Do you ever allow your English language skills to slide when you IM your friends?  I do.  I see this board in a similar way.  It is definitely not a place to judge a person's English language skills.  Also, if you are not aware of this fact, MTs are not required to have a degree in English (or any degree, for that matter).  You probably would prefer that, but we do not make enough money to require a degree.  You can insist on agruing if you'd like, but I will agree to disagree with you in this case.  This conversation benefits no one at this point.
Good point
I would be weary, save for the fact this individual is sending me all the software I need for free. They are also paying for the software I don't have that I need. I figure if they are willing to spend a good amount of money to get me the software required before I have even started, than there must be something to it.

Of course, I will keep my eyes and ears open.
Oh, and the original point, which you
obviously missed, was that you don't have to go to one of the Big 3 schools to get into MTing.
thats a good point...

CrankyBeach- I was feeling disappointed, and not even looking at the obvious.


her point was if you don't like the offer, don't apply...nm
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recruiter point of view
I am trying not to be "nasty" or "hurt feelings." Just stating my experience I have to agree with the MTSO post. I cannot tell you the number of resumes I get where the requirements absolutely 100% do not fit the person emailing me. And I love it when I post "please CUT AND PASTE your resume DO NOT ATTACH." Guess what, very few can read that. A second favorite of mine is ABSOLUTELY NO OFFSHORE COMPANIES APPLY. Guess what? Every Indian company out there cannot read because they apply ... oh, and they ATTACH a resume. The typos are sickening, but I won't get into that. But what really bugs me is how people take applying for a job so lightly. For instance, if you were to read a job opening in a newspaper, you would obviously construct a nice resume and mail it to the potential employer. Why on the internet should it be any different. I get emails for job openings with email addresses of "snoogleboogle@hotmail.com.   Is it so hard to get an email address that is professional ... such as JaneSmith24@yahoo or Jsmith24@hotmail. And the ultimate ... "I have a handicapped child at home and need to be at home. Tell me what transcription is and I can do it. I'm sure it's not hard (LOL)." LOL???? Are you serious?? Nevermind the fact that, unfortunately, I cannot take into consideration your personal problems when I am looking to fill a position. So please don't tell me why you need to work at home, just send me a resume that says why you are qualified for this position. And LOL??? I will leave that one alone.
Oh, geez. You missed the point!
If you cannot get hired as a newbie, these mentoring programs are an option: They are taking risk and investing substantial money into getting work for you. They have to go over every single aspect of it with a fine-toothed comb and provide you with feedback to improve.

I guarentee you that for every report that they go over, they are losing money on it. The program cost just simply covers their administrative costs. Guarantee it.

NO, I don't work at any of those programs but I know 2 suits over 2 of those programs and have had great discussions over the programs.

Ok, anyone can take the test. But I doubt she has taken it, which was my point.
She is therefore not certified. (And shouldn't waste her money on the test without experience.)
You're new and you're already frustrated?
You better find a new profession because doctors have always been lousy dictators and they always will be. It comes with the job. Nobody will ever say anything to the doctors about lousy dictating. They bring in the money to the hospitals. They can do anything they want. Get used to it.
Have you completed school at this point? I am confused as to the
question because I am not sure if you have completed your MT training or planning to work from home as an MT without schooling.
NOW versus KNOW - Learn the difference as you will need to KNOW it at some point.
Trust me, you don't scare us.  As experienced professionals, we know what happens to MTs with delusions of grandeur; they are in for a very rude awakening, to say the very least.
Thought I would point out that you misspelled accurately
since you seem to be so keen on everyone being accurate around here.
"well-trained" is the important point here
Those who aren't are running out of job options. The employers won't hire or keep people who are not properly prepared. They are dumping the MT services who don't have high standards.
Who are you?? I think at this point someone is making up names to post. Get a life! nm
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You're not alone!
I'm so with you!  After my recent work shifts I am more convinced than ever of the need to find something less stressful than nursing. I love the medical field but I really can't continue to endure the nursing world. It's going to hell-in-a-handbasket and I'm sure you know what I mean. I hurt my back last nite responding to a seizure! The guy was in a pool of blood and cyanotic. Found out later he's Hep C+. Great...and now my back is tweaked. Keep me posted on your plans!
You're welcome, Dee
I'm glad I was of help to you.  :-)  Good luck with your endeavour! 
but you're not getting it!...sm

Oh, just relax...Of course I want MT's with experience - and as long as there continues to be MT's with experience that want work at a certain rate, they will be hired in front of a newbie. In the work place it is all about what the market will bear. Nursing shortage? Nurse pay goes up. Until Filipino nurses flood the market. Then nurse pay goes down (just as an example). All I'm saying is as long as there are experienced MT's who are willing to work for 6-7 cpl (and I get plenty of them asking for work all the time at that rate), then a newbie can't be worth the same. It's all about what the market will bear. Therefore, you have to give the employer something to make hiring you more attractive than the next person....which is what? I'm always surprised that a newbie doesn't take an internship or something- whatever it takes- to get that experience. Without the experience, your chances of being hired go waaaaaay down.


My own suspicion is that it's the MT schools who keep telling newbies to go out and try to get jobs at 6 cpl - sometimes I even get resumes asking for 8 or 10! If the MT schools were honest about how difficult it was to break into the field - would people sign up and pay the money? No. But they take the money, train 'em and don't tell them that training isn't enough. Then the boards are full of postings from newbies complaining about how hard it is to break into the field. Well, for crying out loud - I would rather work for free for six months and then be marketable than to get 0 work at 6 cpl for years and years, holding out for that one chance in a thousand that someone would be willing to take me on


 


 


You're probably right lol...
I guess I should have said "Someone who knows what the heck they are doing." Or I could use a name of a great MT, but she'd probably hurt me for putting her in this conversation.
So you're saying..
...that I can't go and apply to a GI Clinic to perform colonoscopies since I know them in and out (pun intended)? That's not very encouraging.


Geesh Kat. You're a big meanie, but boy that was easy to have someone else prove your point for you.

The above posters who can't find a job did it for me, as well as the smart one who said if she could do it over she would go to SCHOOL.

I guess our work here is done.
You're Welcome - nm

You're certainly welcome.
I have trained a few MTs in the past myself, and made friends with all of them and still keep in touch. Which is why it makes me really angry to see scam artists try and take advantages of "newbies."
You're right

And I recognize that.  However, when my employer reviewed my first few batches of reports, he was quite impressed and surprised at the quality given that I was just getting started. 


So, I ask again- what is it that makes AHP an inferior education to other schools like Andrews and M-Tec?  Do they not provide enough anatomy/medical terminology instruction? Are they deficient in practice report experience? 


The only thing I felt under-prepared for was how quickly the doctor's dictate in real life versus what I was used to in practicing.  Other than that, doing real transcribing was actually easier than the practice tapes I was doing because AHP uses a good deal of difficult foreign accents on their practice tapes.  The account that I work on now has no foreign doctors (which is probably unusual), but some of them are ridiculously fast and incoherent. 


I'm really not trying to stir up anything here or argue that anyone is wrong.  I truly am just curious to know why AHP is not a good school.  I have many people ask me about what I do and where I got my training, and when I tell them that I've read online that the quality of an AHP education is questionable, I have no reason to give.  Thanks!


You're not alone...
I graduated from Penn Foster with a 95% and have run into the same situation. I did find out I passed the test given by one national company, and now I'm on a waiting list for additional, unpaid training.

Hopefully this is just a slow time of year and things will work out for all of us! javascript:editor_insertHTML('text','');
You're not alone...
I graduated about a month ago and haven't been able to find a job yet either. The biggest hurdle has been trying to find a company willing to hire a "newbie". I've passed tests, then been turned down because I don't have two years of experience.

Let's just hope the economy improves soon and more jobs become available for new graduates.


If you're just learning...
Why are you giving advice?

You're just beginning training. Where have you had marketing experience?

Also #1 priority in transcription and "landing" a job, be able to spell.
You're kind!
appreciate the support ... this is harder than i ever imagined it would be (as a seasoned clerical for many, many years). i don't see how any of you make a living at this.
though i was told it was hard before i started, i didn't believe it could be that hard. famous last words!

surprisingly, most of my challenges come from the simpler things like hearing "a" instead of "the" (or where there isn't either).

how on earth did you get through this? my hat's off to all of you seasoned MTs.
you're doing it correctly *the pt* until they..sm

tell you differently.  I have a surgeon who gave me lip about it, until I gave him specific copies of the HIPAA laws and showed him that not only was I protecting myself but I was also protecting him from any future lawsuit.


The thing is this....many medical records are used as examples in studies..., blind studies, and the like.  In today's world, as long as no patient name is mentioned in the medical record, well that record could be used in a study.  If the patient's name is mentioned in body of report, the people conducting the study(ies) CAN be sued down the road for exposing a patient name......being possibly sued by the patient whose name was exposed.


There usually is a method to most madness.....*lol*


You're absolutely right!
I think it really depends on the individual.