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You need training, not just "classes" -- obviously you have no idea what is involved.

Posted By: deb on 2007-12-29
In Reply to: How to get started - Abby

It's more than just typing. You need to know anatomy, pharmacology, terminology, etc. Doctors don't dictate slowly and clearly, and they don't always dictate in quiet places. Take peroneal, peritoneal, and perineal. If you don't know what the doctor is talking about you will not know which word to use. There are many sound-alike words like that, not to mention zillions of drugs. You need good training (Andrews School or M-TEC) and nobody is going to hire you without experience unless you have good training.


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Too many variables involved to answer
that question.  You shouldn't compare anyway. 
I had no idea...
Since this was new to me, I had no idea of where to go.  I went to the BBB, but they don't do employee/employer disputes amongst other things.  I didn't know where to go after that.
idea
Well, let me tell you how I got around that.  I know what I did was morally wrong but it got me two jobs.  I was so sick and tired of everywhere wanting 2 years or more of experience.  I mean when you graduate how are you susposed to get that experience if no one will hire you?  So anyway I decided to fudge on my resume about the experience.  I made up a fake company name and everything.  The first place I applied for didn't check for references or anything and I was hired because I passed the test.  The second company wanted to check for references so I gave her my mom's name and number as my supervisor. lol  I called my mom and asked her if she would fudge a little for me which of course she did because she rocks! lol  But I was hired there too.  I figured what's it gonna hurt?  I do know that some companies may hire newbies like I think focus infomatics will.  And keep checking the jobs here.  Sometimes companies are specifically looking for new grads.  Or you could be sneaky like me.  Just tossing the idea out there. 
just an idea

I know this is far fetched, but this is the first thing that came to my mind.  What if you are transcribing a report about a friend's or relative's significant other, and you see that they have an STD such as HIV that your friend/relative is not aware of.   


I had the same idea

Several years ago,I did what you are thinking of doing.  I have a good job with a high salary and good benefits, but my home needed quite a bit of work, I didn't want to take on debt to get the work done, and I also wanted to beef up my retirement savings as I am single and have only myself for support.  I heard about MT from someone whose relative was an MT and decided it sounded like just what I needed to make some extra money. 


I didn't have a clue about what constitutes good MT training, so I took the MT training courses offered by my local community college.  The medical terminology training was the only part of that program that was worth anything.  None of he practice transcription was real doctor dictation.  It was actors reading scripts.  Apparently, their MT program is similar to programs at other CCs and technical colleges, which may be why so many people who get training that way complain of having difficulty finding a job. 


I was very, very lucky.  My friend's MT relative turned out to be responsible for hiring MTs for the clinic she worked for.  My friend put me in touch with her MT relative, and I was hired with no experience.  I had to work very, very hard to make up for the deficiencies in my training, though I was fortunate to have a background in general transcription and a very good ear for transcription.  If I had not had the good fortune of an introduction, I think it would have been very, very difficult for me to find the first job with the poor training that I received.  I would certainly not have been able to find a job with one of the nationals. 


If I were looking for training today, and knowing what I know now about how hard medical transcription can be with inadequate training, from my personal perspective (you will want to do your own research to determine what is best for you), I would choose Andrews or M-Tec (often mentioned as the two best schools).  There are other good programs, and some community colleges and technical colleges do provide good training, but without knowing what good training is beforehand, it would be very difficult to judge a program's quality. 


With the experience I gained working for the local clinic, I was able to get a job with a small national that does clinic work when the first clinic I worked for transitioned to an electronic medical records system that does not require human transcriptionists.  I submitted at least fifty applications, from which I was offered six opportunities to test, and from those I received four job offers, three of which were untenable (one company turned out to have a bad reputation because of treating MTs badly, one company appeared to be hopelessly disorganized and was therefore not very appealing, and the third appeared to be managed by crazy people).  The offer I accepted has worked out well so far because I am working on the only specialty I have ever done.  I was not even invited to test with companies that do hospital transcription because I do not have either the necessary experience or suitable, recognized training. 


If you want to have the widest range of employment options, you will need good, comprehensive traning that is recognized as good training by employers.  If you think can get your foot in the door with a local clinic, it probably won't matter where you get your training.  If you want to have a chance at the widest range of available jobs, you will need training that employers recognize as good.  Otherwise, it might be difficult even to get an opportunity to test for a job and you might find your options very limited.


Good luck with your plan.  MT has worked out very well for me as a second job.  I hope your experience is good, too.


I second that! Wonderful idea!
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Great idea!
Thanks for the tip!
That's a great idea! Let's do.
Best idea I've heard all day.
Good idea, thank you.

I hadn't thought of working on preparing and learning an expander.  I don't actually use one right now.  Is there one Expander program that will work in all programs/platforms?   Just wondering.


Thanks for the suggestion.  I think that is a pretty good.


Good Idea

Thank you for the suggestion. I'll go ahead  and ask the school and see what help they can provide.


That is a great idea
I just recently completed all of my course work towards my degree and am just waiting for my degree to get to me and I think it is wonderful that you are even considering reaching out to others in the same shoes as me.

Experience is required for almost every MT position, but you can not get it until someone else is willing to help you.

I know if there was a company or established Transcriptionist that was willing to offer their help in helping me start my career I would jump at it, but many times the cost is way to high for me. I just keep looking ahead to my student loan payments that are coming up.

Since I am trying to find entry level work, or an internship/mentoring program, I think that what would be the most helpful to me is more practice. Building accuracy takes time and since my experience is limited to my training in school and my externship I feel that I may not be able to build that accuracy fast enough. I think being able to find an internship/mentoring program that allows you to get more "real" experience done would be the most beneficial to the new graduate. It also allows us to find our weaknesses and the things we need to do to avoid them.

Best of luck in making your decision, I am sure it is not an easy one to make.

---Christina
Agree with this. I have no idea how many wpm I
type anymore. When I started doing MT years ago, I typed about 85 wpm. I tested about 5 years later & was over 100 wpm, but I haven't taken a typing test in years, so who knows. Knowledge makes you faster rather than simple typing speed in MT. It doesn't matter how fast you type if you have to stop and look every other word up. A slow typing experienced MT with knowledge will make many more lines per hour than a newer fast typer who is having to do more research.
WAS THIS A GOOD IDEA?
I am almost done with my transcription training and I read on these comments how bad the job market is. People on here say that there is no real need for transcriptions any more. Is this all true if so did I waste my time and money?
Re: was this a good idea
Two things:
1. People who have the most to complain about are the people who have the most to talk about. Everyone else is too busy working, so take the negativity you read on message boards with a grain of salt.
2. There is going to be a strong market for GOOD MTs for a long time. GOOD MTs are hard to come by. MTs from TV commercial schools are a dime a dozen.
Can you explain what you're looking for? No idea! nm
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Too many people get sucked into the idea that

you can work at home right away; maybe 10 years ago, maybe even 5 years ago you could, but not now.   Did you check out MT before you took the class?  So many come here only after completing their schooling and most complain they can't get a job, but they didn't investigate it before starting and they are expecting to be working at home right out of school.  Some have taken programs through correspondance schools that were pretty worthless, again because they didn't investigate the schools or because one has a more affordable program. 


It doesn't matter what your grade is, whether your grade is 97% (which is not the same as GPA) or not.  If you went to one of the better recognized/accepted schools and then have that grade you might have better luck.


You need an eye for detail in this job and that will be helpful, but that is only a tiny portion of what an MT does.   I have been in this business 20 years and I learn new things all the time and I think most MTs with several years of experience will tell you the same thing.   I still have days where I spend up to 30 minutes researching something.  I still have days where I have to leave a blank because I can't document a piece of equipment or I just can't understand what the dictator is saying.   You have to be able to understand accents/dialects, be able to make out what the doctor is saying while they are dictating and eating an apple.   You need to be able to tell the difference between abduction and adduction because they pretty much sound the same most of the time.  You need to know that when a doctor spells a piece of equipment or a drug that you shouldn't take his word for it, investigate it yourself.  Doctors spell things wrong all the time.  You need to know when a doctor mispronounces a word - doctors all the time say "Perm a Cath" but it is PermCath.  All this comes with practice/experience, which you just don't have fresh out of school. 


I know I sound like it is hopeless and it isn't, but your expectations are probably unrealistic too.   Post your resume.  It doesn't cost anything and you never know what will come of it, but I would recommend you come to this board or the company board and ask about any company just to be sure they are legitimate.  


You could also contact local doctors.  Find a doctor in practice alone or maybe just 2 doctors.  Since you are only wanting to work PT and take care of your daughter you probably shouldn't take on anything more than that.  You will also have to look up lots of things to start with, which will slow you down.   


different program, similar idea

The internship I speak of is not the Jumpstart program but is a similar program.  I took part in a medical transcription course of study at a community college.  In order to obtain my diploma I must complete the internship.  I think it is a wonderful idea and provides experience, not to mention real world learning.  I didn't determine before I started how the clock hours necessary would be calculated.  I thought clock hours meant 8 hours per workday 5 days a week.  Wrong!  Lines typed are divided by 200 lph.  Yea, way longer than 120 actual clock hours!  That's okay but I wasn't given that information at the beginning which I think I should have been.


You learn things the hard way when you new and naive!!


 


Not a good idea to lie about work experience -
Chances are there is a reason they do not want someone with less. More than likely it will be obvious to who hires you that something is amiss. Never a good idea to lie about these things because you more than likely will be found out! Good luck to you. :-)
Love the idea on using a phone book A-Z for writing down
I have almost 4 year experience now and may branch out on my own next year I think, or at least try. Love the idea of using the phone book, can't believe I never thought of it. Thanks for the tip.
If you got your training from one of the
schools recognized by employers to turn out job-ready MTs, in most cases, the two-year-experience requirement will be waived. Also, those schools will work with you to help you with job placement. In any event, your school. whichever one it was, should be helping you with job placement. If the course was designed to make you employable, your school should know for which employers you are prepared to work. Good luck to you.
MT Training
I would be glad to talk with you.
If you get the right training ...
i.e. from one of the schools that turn out job-ready MTs, you should have no trouble working from home from the start. If you decide to skimp on your training and go for a cheap, inferior school, it is unlikely that you would be able to work from home for a long time since you would need so much supervision and hand-holding. Get the right edcuation and you can write your own ticket.
right training?
Is Career Step considered the  " right training " that would allow me to work from home from the start?
CS training

Anne, I 'm with you. I want to work PT from home. I'm seriously considering Career Step also. Please feel free to e-mail me if you'd like to toss this around some more. I'm wondering about the sitting aspect of the job also but I think it would probably go quickly when you're transcribing. Hoping to learn more while visiting this site. Good luck!


Training
Hi, thinking seriously of becoming a MT. Background has been in med field many years ago. Now cannot work in old job due to physical disability of permanent nature -no cure. Not mobile anymore. Work at computer would be limited in sessions - is there anyone out there with same type of dilema and going thru and has been thru training?
Training
Okay,  I have been looking into the field of MT for some time now and I am a bit frustrated and confused.  After viewing so many messages posted It seems almost futile to even consider becoming an MT.  Today, right now, is it worth my money and time to become an MT?  Is there still a future for MT's (maybe not in the tradtional since)??!!  Thanks for responding!!!  JSanders 
training
I did recently receive a great gift.  A friend introduced me to a 28 year Transcriptionist who is willing to let me work with her!!
Training? Are you in a training
program? When will you graduate?
training
I have been working on a course through Trans Am Associates.  My resume does not have any jobs in the transcription field. I need someone to give me a chance. I tested for a hospital where I used to live and the head Transcriptionist said that it was one of the best tests she has seen. Any more ?? let me know.
You might want to look into training
available in your own country, wherever in South Asia it happens to be. It would surely be cheaper.
I did on the job training. sm
When I started 10 years ago I had no schooling in this profession and I did complete on the job training. Now I own my own service and have for 6 years. It is possible. I am sorry you feel the way you do.
MT Training ...what's best?

I'm looking to do MT training, preferrably online.  Can any of you offer opinions/suggestions regarding the online courses you may have taken for training?  The one I've thoroughly checked out is CareerStep.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!


 


mt training
career step so far has been on the up and up lp
I'm an LPN/MT and KNOW you need MT training.
One of the biggest problems I had in my MT training was getting rid of the nursing mindset, especially with respect to abbreviations. The same abbreviations I knew and used for years as caps without periods suddenly had to be lower case with periods, etc. Old habits were hard to break. When it comes to the MT world, there is a lot more to it than typing and knowing medical terminology. I was very surprised about that myself! You will also have to develop an ear for listening, hearing and understanding each dictator. You may be able to understand Dr. Jones (for example) on the phone or in person, but he might sound like Elmer Fudd when he dictates! Possibly worse.

Please do your homework, pick the very best school you can afford and work hard to get your money's worth out of that school. Don't expect to make the same money starting out as you can walking into any nursing position. Unless you are extraordinarily lucky and gifted, you are well advised to take some MT training.

I do wish you luck in whatever you decide to do.



training
I need additional training in this field! How or where should I go to get the help I need?! I went to school and graduated with my certificate in MT but am having no luck on tests and feel that I need more time to learn and build my skills up. Any suggestions as to what I should do? please contact me!
Do you have training?
I would recommend sending a resume anyway IF you have some formal training which might be considered in lieu of experience. I was hired for an opening asking for 5 years experience and I only have 18 months. It's worth trying! Good luck!!!
Do you have any training?
Your grammar and spelling are terrible.
new training
Thanks so much
Training

Good luck Lisa. You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders. The top schools ensure entry into this profession and choices of decent job ofers with good starting rates. When we stop learning - we are dead. Hee! Hee!


I sincerely wish you well.


Lilly


Training
I am a current student with M-TEC.  They offer a basic and an advanced course.  I would highly recommend them and the directors are always more than willing to talk with you and answer any questions you might have.  I think you will find it extremely difficult just getting your foot in the door without the training.  I'm sure with the background you have, you should be able to breeze through the program.  I worked for over 10 years in the field but took time off to raise my kids.  When I was ready to return to the field, I found it hard to even test.  No one wanted to give me a chance so I enrolled with M-TEC.  It's really been the best experience and my ultimate goal is to get certified so I really need to learn other specialties.  If your goal is to work from home then definitely check into one of the top schools.  My guess though is you will definitely not be making the kind of money you are used to for quite some time.  Good luck though.
I had no training but
had enough medical terminology knowledge and speed to try out for an acute care position and got it!

I disagree. You can teach yourself to be a great MT. I am so tired of all the CMT snobs out there. Anyone with medical terminology, speed and a good knowledge of grammar and language can do it. I have seen too many do so to understand that this is true.

The certificate does not by itself make a good medical transcription. Too many variables come into play.
MT Training
I have just completed the MT training through Everett Community College Online where they utilize the Career Step Course Ware. They MT program is online and is offered nation wide. The great thing for me is that my financial aid paid for my training, where in a lot of cases the training program is not offering financial aid. You can go to EVCC website and check it out. Another great website for informational and EVCC training stuff is http://www.workathometranscription.blogspot.com/

Hope this helps
Has anyone used VLC for training?
I was considering VLC, Virtual Leaning Center for training.  Their website seems like they'd be good, but I don't personally know anyone who has used their training.  I am not sure I trust their website testimonials, all online schools have "testimonials."  Does anyone have any real experience with VLC to share?  I'd appreciate anything.  Thank you in advance.
Re-Training

This is going to be long, so please bear with me.  I have graduated with my certificate and went to a junior college to complete it; however, the program was new and I do not think I received the schooling I should have.  I do work for a national company and doing okay with it, but feel I am just "not with it."  I feel I should know more than I do.


So my question is-how do I retrain myself?  I still have all my books and have the new AAMT Book of Style along with the workbook.  My school did not teach me of the BOS, but my empolyer requires to know it.  I would love to get my CMT, but feel I need to get my line count up.  So, should I extensively work on my expansions (since I was not taught about them).  I do own Saving Keystrokes and have read about the ABCZ style form.  So, should I work on my expansions first to get my line count up?  Or go through my transcription books?  My goal is to be the best, but at this point I am a little overwhelmed.  My anal personality is getting the best of me:)  


Any suggestions will be appreciated.   


Do you have any MT training?
x
MT training
I too am considering Career Step's traning and would like to hear from students who took thier training and how successful they were in finding employment.
your training

Donna:  Where did you go to school?  I am just curious because I am trying to decide where I want to go. 


Your first test experience was horrible.......


TRAINING
I need some suggestions for training since I am new to this.
Training
Hi,

You might want to try Career Step. They have a great program, and it is more affordable than most. (Plus it is approved by AHDI).


MT training

Any feedback regarding online MT courses?  I've done ortho for years, but would like to learn to do it all.  Any input appreciated. 


MT Training
You asked if, since you were a general transcriptionist, you could just take continuing education courses rather than a full MT program.

I think you may be asking if your training and/or experience in transcription of general material can qualify you to skip over part of an MT program. In other words, since you're a general transcriptionist, you feel you know enough to just learn the details that differentiate general from medical.

While it will help you somewhat since you already have the ability to process voice and key it, it's not going to enable you to skip much, if anything, in an MT program.


You might be thinking that much of what is taught in an MT program is the PROCESS of transcribing or, possibly, that it teaches general, plain English transcription as a prelude to medical. This isn't the case.

With few exceptions, MT programs do not teach general transcription, nor do they focus much at all on the process of transcribing. They do not, for instance, feature practice drills in keyboarding plain phrases, etc., from voice. Very few, except those at the community college level where any high school graduate must be allowed to register, even teach keyboarding.

If you took a course to learn general transcription, I can say with some certainty that whatever it was is NOT going to be part of an MT course.

MT education typically begins with instruction that consists of medical language, anatomy, and such, possibly grammar and style as it pertains to medical writing, and leaps right into transcription of medical material.

So, it's not that you could skip over the parts of the course that you'd already be able to do, because there aren't likely to be any parts of the course that consist of what you can already do. Medical transcription is far different from general. That isn't to say that there is no value in general transcription, because there is. It is just that an MT student doesn't "go through" general transcription on the way to learning MT. Most programs consist entirely of MT-related training. There isn't anything to skip.

This shouldn't discourage you. You WILL be able to utilize your background in MT. It will enable you to make faster progress, particularly early on in the course. You'll still have to learn to understand medical dictation, which is nothing like anything you will have heard before.

There is no advantage to skipping things, anyway. If you're that proficient in the subject, then you won't have to spend much time on it.

You might find MT to be just what you were looking for. I'd encourage you to get the best grounding in it by doing an entire, good course rather than trying to get by with less just because of your background.