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Agree with this. I have no idea how many wpm I

Posted By: sm on 2009-04-14
In Reply to: w.p.m.??? sm - LaserKat

type anymore. When I started doing MT years ago, I typed about 85 wpm. I tested about 5 years later & was over 100 wpm, but I haven't taken a typing test in years, so who knows. Knowledge makes you faster rather than simple typing speed in MT. It doesn't matter how fast you type if you have to stop and look every other word up. A slow typing experienced MT with knowledge will make many more lines per hour than a newer fast typer who is having to do more research.


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I had no idea...
Since this was new to me, I had no idea of where to go.  I went to the BBB, but they don't do employee/employer disputes amongst other things.  I didn't know where to go after that.
idea
Well, let me tell you how I got around that.  I know what I did was morally wrong but it got me two jobs.  I was so sick and tired of everywhere wanting 2 years or more of experience.  I mean when you graduate how are you susposed to get that experience if no one will hire you?  So anyway I decided to fudge on my resume about the experience.  I made up a fake company name and everything.  The first place I applied for didn't check for references or anything and I was hired because I passed the test.  The second company wanted to check for references so I gave her my mom's name and number as my supervisor. lol  I called my mom and asked her if she would fudge a little for me which of course she did because she rocks! lol  But I was hired there too.  I figured what's it gonna hurt?  I do know that some companies may hire newbies like I think focus infomatics will.  And keep checking the jobs here.  Sometimes companies are specifically looking for new grads.  Or you could be sneaky like me.  Just tossing the idea out there. 
just an idea

I know this is far fetched, but this is the first thing that came to my mind.  What if you are transcribing a report about a friend's or relative's significant other, and you see that they have an STD such as HIV that your friend/relative is not aware of.   


I had the same idea

Several years ago,I did what you are thinking of doing.  I have a good job with a high salary and good benefits, but my home needed quite a bit of work, I didn't want to take on debt to get the work done, and I also wanted to beef up my retirement savings as I am single and have only myself for support.  I heard about MT from someone whose relative was an MT and decided it sounded like just what I needed to make some extra money. 


I didn't have a clue about what constitutes good MT training, so I took the MT training courses offered by my local community college.  The medical terminology training was the only part of that program that was worth anything.  None of he practice transcription was real doctor dictation.  It was actors reading scripts.  Apparently, their MT program is similar to programs at other CCs and technical colleges, which may be why so many people who get training that way complain of having difficulty finding a job. 


I was very, very lucky.  My friend's MT relative turned out to be responsible for hiring MTs for the clinic she worked for.  My friend put me in touch with her MT relative, and I was hired with no experience.  I had to work very, very hard to make up for the deficiencies in my training, though I was fortunate to have a background in general transcription and a very good ear for transcription.  If I had not had the good fortune of an introduction, I think it would have been very, very difficult for me to find the first job with the poor training that I received.  I would certainly not have been able to find a job with one of the nationals. 


If I were looking for training today, and knowing what I know now about how hard medical transcription can be with inadequate training, from my personal perspective (you will want to do your own research to determine what is best for you), I would choose Andrews or M-Tec (often mentioned as the two best schools).  There are other good programs, and some community colleges and technical colleges do provide good training, but without knowing what good training is beforehand, it would be very difficult to judge a program's quality. 


With the experience I gained working for the local clinic, I was able to get a job with a small national that does clinic work when the first clinic I worked for transitioned to an electronic medical records system that does not require human transcriptionists.  I submitted at least fifty applications, from which I was offered six opportunities to test, and from those I received four job offers, three of which were untenable (one company turned out to have a bad reputation because of treating MTs badly, one company appeared to be hopelessly disorganized and was therefore not very appealing, and the third appeared to be managed by crazy people).  The offer I accepted has worked out well so far because I am working on the only specialty I have ever done.  I was not even invited to test with companies that do hospital transcription because I do not have either the necessary experience or suitable, recognized training. 


If you want to have the widest range of employment options, you will need good, comprehensive traning that is recognized as good training by employers.  If you think can get your foot in the door with a local clinic, it probably won't matter where you get your training.  If you want to have a chance at the widest range of available jobs, you will need training that employers recognize as good.  Otherwise, it might be difficult even to get an opportunity to test for a job and you might find your options very limited.


Good luck with your plan.  MT has worked out very well for me as a second job.  I hope your experience is good, too.


I second that! Wonderful idea!
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Great idea!
Thanks for the tip!
That's a great idea! Let's do.
Best idea I've heard all day.
Good idea, thank you.

I hadn't thought of working on preparing and learning an expander.  I don't actually use one right now.  Is there one Expander program that will work in all programs/platforms?   Just wondering.


Thanks for the suggestion.  I think that is a pretty good.


Good Idea

Thank you for the suggestion. I'll go ahead  and ask the school and see what help they can provide.


That is a great idea
I just recently completed all of my course work towards my degree and am just waiting for my degree to get to me and I think it is wonderful that you are even considering reaching out to others in the same shoes as me.

Experience is required for almost every MT position, but you can not get it until someone else is willing to help you.

I know if there was a company or established Transcriptionist that was willing to offer their help in helping me start my career I would jump at it, but many times the cost is way to high for me. I just keep looking ahead to my student loan payments that are coming up.

Since I am trying to find entry level work, or an internship/mentoring program, I think that what would be the most helpful to me is more practice. Building accuracy takes time and since my experience is limited to my training in school and my externship I feel that I may not be able to build that accuracy fast enough. I think being able to find an internship/mentoring program that allows you to get more "real" experience done would be the most beneficial to the new graduate. It also allows us to find our weaknesses and the things we need to do to avoid them.

Best of luck in making your decision, I am sure it is not an easy one to make.

---Christina
WAS THIS A GOOD IDEA?
I am almost done with my transcription training and I read on these comments how bad the job market is. People on here say that there is no real need for transcriptions any more. Is this all true if so did I waste my time and money?
Re: was this a good idea
Two things:
1. People who have the most to complain about are the people who have the most to talk about. Everyone else is too busy working, so take the negativity you read on message boards with a grain of salt.
2. There is going to be a strong market for GOOD MTs for a long time. GOOD MTs are hard to come by. MTs from TV commercial schools are a dime a dozen.
Can you explain what you're looking for? No idea! nm
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Too many people get sucked into the idea that

you can work at home right away; maybe 10 years ago, maybe even 5 years ago you could, but not now.   Did you check out MT before you took the class?  So many come here only after completing their schooling and most complain they can't get a job, but they didn't investigate it before starting and they are expecting to be working at home right out of school.  Some have taken programs through correspondance schools that were pretty worthless, again because they didn't investigate the schools or because one has a more affordable program. 


It doesn't matter what your grade is, whether your grade is 97% (which is not the same as GPA) or not.  If you went to one of the better recognized/accepted schools and then have that grade you might have better luck.


You need an eye for detail in this job and that will be helpful, but that is only a tiny portion of what an MT does.   I have been in this business 20 years and I learn new things all the time and I think most MTs with several years of experience will tell you the same thing.   I still have days where I spend up to 30 minutes researching something.  I still have days where I have to leave a blank because I can't document a piece of equipment or I just can't understand what the dictator is saying.   You have to be able to understand accents/dialects, be able to make out what the doctor is saying while they are dictating and eating an apple.   You need to be able to tell the difference between abduction and adduction because they pretty much sound the same most of the time.  You need to know that when a doctor spells a piece of equipment or a drug that you shouldn't take his word for it, investigate it yourself.  Doctors spell things wrong all the time.  You need to know when a doctor mispronounces a word - doctors all the time say "Perm a Cath" but it is PermCath.  All this comes with practice/experience, which you just don't have fresh out of school. 


I know I sound like it is hopeless and it isn't, but your expectations are probably unrealistic too.   Post your resume.  It doesn't cost anything and you never know what will come of it, but I would recommend you come to this board or the company board and ask about any company just to be sure they are legitimate.  


You could also contact local doctors.  Find a doctor in practice alone or maybe just 2 doctors.  Since you are only wanting to work PT and take care of your daughter you probably shouldn't take on anything more than that.  You will also have to look up lots of things to start with, which will slow you down.   


different program, similar idea

The internship I speak of is not the Jumpstart program but is a similar program.  I took part in a medical transcription course of study at a community college.  In order to obtain my diploma I must complete the internship.  I think it is a wonderful idea and provides experience, not to mention real world learning.  I didn't determine before I started how the clock hours necessary would be calculated.  I thought clock hours meant 8 hours per workday 5 days a week.  Wrong!  Lines typed are divided by 200 lph.  Yea, way longer than 120 actual clock hours!  That's okay but I wasn't given that information at the beginning which I think I should have been.


You learn things the hard way when you new and naive!!


 


Not a good idea to lie about work experience -
Chances are there is a reason they do not want someone with less. More than likely it will be obvious to who hires you that something is amiss. Never a good idea to lie about these things because you more than likely will be found out! Good luck to you. :-)
You need training, not just "classes" -- obviously you have no idea what is involved.
It's more than just typing. You need to know anatomy, pharmacology, terminology, etc. Doctors don't dictate slowly and clearly, and they don't always dictate in quiet places. Take peroneal, peritoneal, and perineal. If you don't know what the doctor is talking about you will not know which word to use. There are many sound-alike words like that, not to mention zillions of drugs. You need good training (Andrews School or M-TEC) and nobody is going to hire you without experience unless you have good training.
Love the idea on using a phone book A-Z for writing down
I have almost 4 year experience now and may branch out on my own next year I think, or at least try. Love the idea of using the phone book, can't believe I never thought of it. Thanks for the tip.
I agree
I am also a newbie and have found it very difficult to find jobs. I would also like to know if anyone has any suggestions.
I agree with ksc
You're not going to find much positive feedback on this forum. I recently graduated from our community college and have been looking for work for some time now. Everyone on this forum told me that if I didn't first work as a MT in an office, there was no way I was going to find a job at home. Well, I was just hired for an at-home position a few days ago. I believe that if you are determined to do this and you keep applying, you will find what you're looking for. Good luck in your search!!
I agree with you...
ALL are scams on Monster and CareerBuilder, ALWAYS.
thanks SH. I agree that it all comes down
to just doing the work, and doing it quickly and accurately! Thanks for your input. :)
I agree
I have heard of many people who started doing MT years ago, without schooling. I think times have changed though and most employers now expect their employees to have gone through training. But I agree completely that some people are cut out for this and some people are not. I am hoping to start out at a local hospital when I finish my schooling. One of the hospitals I called actually train you on site. I look forward to working with seasoned MT's who can give me the support I will need when just starting out. I eventually do want to work from home, but I also realize that I need the experience in house first to build my skills and confidence before I go on my own.
I agree
I agree.  I hired someone out of Andrews and they did a wonderful job for me!
I agree
I can see her frustration. If they can't even follow simple instructions, they will never make it as an MT. It's ok for us to vent but God fobid an MTSO tries to vent. Let's step back and look at both sides of the coin. It would be a benefit for all to heed her advice.
agree with everyone else, take it
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I don't agree with you!
I think it is utterly wrong to put all the fish in the same bowl and purely assume that everybody is the same. I personally think we should be given EQUAL opportunity. I don't expect to make $60K, $50K or even $20K right of the bet, it takes time to get better at anything in life -- I'm sorry but I found your message offensive. Have you gotten to where you're at OVERNIGHT????? So here is my answer!!!
And something else -- we don't look for a job and then simply ignore it, and feel like we don't have to prove anything!
What don't you agree with -

What don't you agree with - that an MTSO should notice an applicant's lack of skill and move on to the next applicant?  Medical terminology is only one part of a transcriptionist's skill set.  She must also have English vocabulary, spelling, grammar, and punctuation that is better than a doctor's.  Fortunately, these things are hard to fake! 


If one applicant doesn't have the skills, she'll find somebody who does.  It's her (or his) reputation on the line.  


I believe the better schools test people before they accept them so those who don't have the background skills won't waste time and money on a career they won't succeed in. 


 


i agree...c msg
even with schooling, i had to humble myself and be a transcription clerk for 9 months so i could get in the door. learned the ropes of the mts, even did corrections on reports sent back by the doctor, which was the clerk's job.

i dont believe that anyone can master medical transcription or anything in the medical field as it is always changing. i believe that in time, you get more comfortable as years (not days, weeks, or months) go by.
I agree with you
Not everyone's situation is the same. People do not send their children to daycare just because they "cannot take care of them", or don't want to take care of them. Sometimes it is the only choice there is. And when you are a Work-at-home mom it can be difficult too. My primary reason for getting into MT was not so I could work from home, it was to work in the medical field and make some great money. Being home is an added benefit. It drives me nuts when people want to classify everyone the same. Everyone is different and deals with their lives differently.
I agree
Even though you are new to the business, $8.00 an hour is not much. I would want at least $10. Others may not agree, but receptionists and secretaries get paid more than $8.00 an hour these days.
I agree....
It is a good place to start, but my personal experience is it gets boring quickly. Acute care for me anyways is where I have been the happiest. Get a good reference book and give radiology a try, you will be glad you did!
I agree........
This MTSO knows what she is talking about! Thanks for your post. :)
I agree
I'm willing to do whatever my employer asks of me for now. I know I'm new and inexperienced. The only way to get that experience is to practice, practice, practice. I just got a job at a local dermatology clinic, and they probably think I'm insane because I have thanked them for giving me a chance almost every day since I got the job. (starting my 4th week this week) LOL, I'm just happy to be working again.
have to agree...

I guess newbies hear it all the time from the training courses they sign up for - to try to get 6-8 cpl right out of the gate. Of course the training course is going to tell you that - they wouldn't get any customers otherwise! LOL! I think if you haven't got a bite after your first go round, you might consider doing the second round at a discount. If you didn't make the cut the first time, there's too many competitors out there at the same rate. So drop your rate.


I agree. I have never done this and never will.nm
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I agree.
It certainly would make this a nicer place to visit.
I agree--changes will always come
In any industry, changes are bound to happen. I have posted this before, but there are other industries out there that have expected to be eliminated and haven't been. There are some things that it would be almost impossible to keep the human interface out of. I think this is one of them. I was in marketing before I switched careers into this, and despite what the "wonderful and all-knowing" AAMT says, it is obvious that we aren't going anywhere. In reality, half the country is still using tapes! I have seen offices that don't have a better computer system than the ancient Apples! I don't put much stock into what the AAMT says or others when the assumption is made that we are doomed. I look at the trends at the JCAHO and ask other professionals.
i agree
school alone is important, but experience makes a big difference too.


medical transcription classes
I have to agree
I went through PCDI and was very lucky to have more or less on the job training (and get hired, at that!!).  I was totally and completely lost, especially not having ever used a transcription system before.  PCDI might be the way to go if you're just looking for the piece of paper and know your stuff.
Cannot agree more...
I totally agree. I have been doing this for more than 15 years, and think I am pretty good, but I will not accept or work on a new account if I am not provided with samples. You can never have too many samples. I use them for word searching, or phrase searching, spelling of the doctor's name, etc. If you have enough samples and can identify one word in a troublesome phrase, the ability to word search through many samples will be invaluable. Again, if it is important, it is likely to be repeated in the IMPRESSION and may sound a little different, enabling you to figure out what is being said. Finally, when you are finished, listen to the dictation while you are reading your finished document. Another finally, print the document and read it. If it does not make sense, it is probably wrong, and you might be surprised at what you will see when looking at a printed document, as opposed to viewing it on your monitor.
I agree. You need to take the MT
course first.  I myself have over 15 years in the medical field and still have not landed an MT position.  I have taken a course. 
I agree with sm
The problem with this job is people get the idea that working at home means is like eating at Burger King you get to "Have it your way." Most of the people I've talked to and my own personal experience said that wasn't the way it was. If you can find a job that allows you to work whenever you want, then, that's wonderful. But, I've noticed that more and more, not only are the services looking for set hours, but they also want full-timers. It wasn't that way when I started 17 years ago. That post about getting child care is right on. If you can arrange it, why not pay your teenagers a small salary for watching the little ones. Or, can you arrange to work after bedtime? If you want to give Dad a break, it probably isn't going to happen unless you can find a place that does have set hours. The problem with the ones who let you decide if and when you want to work is that they also are not there for you all the time. You quite often find that you have no work. So, be very careful when you choose.
I agree 100%.

I agree sm
Realistically, when hiring new MTs, there is only so much that is 'trainable'. They definitely need to come on board with good grammar skills - sometimes just to be able to correct the MDs! :-)
I agree with the others...sm
Just hang in there and test like crazy and post your resume on the boards. It took me about three months to find my first job and one year later, I'm still typing away and loving it.

Take care!!
I agree.
I also finished the Jumpstart internship last October. I finished on a Friday and started working the next Monday, seamlessly. Meditech is a good MT training program. I am still with them and continue to gain valuable paid experience. It has certainly been a good first MT job.

I do understand the fear some folks have about paying to work in intern programs. I had the benefit of actually knowing someone who had gone through Meditech before I did. So, I saw her success before I signed up and knew the school was not a scam.

Good luck to everyone.
agree

I started from home from the beginning even while I was in school.  The hospitals around here don't hire newbies.  My first account was just one specialty, 2 physicians, for a small MTSO.  The work was primarily done on templates and I got paid for everything.  Made what I thougth was fabulous money.  All I needed was my cheatsheet and a few samples and I was all set.  Fantastic line counts because of the templates.  Then the account came up for renewal and the MTSO decided to drop it.  I was out of work with 1 day's notice.  I decided that would never happen again so I went with a national to get more experience with other specialties and have backup accounts.  Suddenly I had more than a dozen specialties all at once for just one account, at least 50 dictators, multiple worktypes, account specifics that were more complicated than college math, no templates, and I'm here at home with no one to ask for help.  I spent  most of my time looking up what seemed like every other word practically.  My Stedman's books never made it to the bookcase from my desktop.  I'm still surprised my bird never learned to say, "The WHAT?"  He sure heard me say if often enough in exasperation!  I gained a whole new respect for rice and mashed potatoes.  I've stuck it out because I wanted it too bad to give up and have been willing to make the sacrifices so that I'd be able in the future to compete in the marketplace, but it's not easy by any means.   And pay on production by a national when you're new is a killer if that's your only source of income.  There's just too much to get used to all at once and of course that slows you down.


I too would recommend going with a hospital if you can find one.  Otherwise, find some good rice recipies and be prepared for the long haul.  The up side is when you can look back and see how you've grown and know you had what it took to do it.  


I agree that 6 cpl is too low;
however, that is what I made when I was training. Then it went up to 10 cpl. It might get her foot in the door somewhere so she can work at home and then go up from there as she learns to be more proficient at the work.
I agree

If a newly minted MT gets a job at home as an IC, their pay per hour will be *very* low starting out.  I know.  I started that way.  When I get a call to be a guest lecturer at the local community college Transcriptionist training course, I tell them to get a job in a doctor's office or a hospital, if they have the opportunity, and work at home after they've gotten experience.  That has become harder, too, as many transcriptionists are leaving the home jobs and going back to the doctors' offices and/or hospitals as the larger transcription companies cut pay through using artificial speech recognition, sending good quality dictation overseas to the international labor partners and leaving the very worst of the dictators for the U.S. and Canadian MTs, and cut benefits for the home-based MTs.  You will read reports stating that "there are not enough U.S. MTs to do all the work and it has to be outsourced".  Not exactly. Not enough MTs are racing to accept a third world wage would be more like it.  Many places demand (and get) somebody with 5 years of experience.


Another issue would be starting pay for the new MT. When I was hired 5 years ago at my large company, my starting pay with NO experience was higher than is being offered to MTs with 20+ years experience now, and my starting salary was inadequate to live on then.  I will never get a raise.  I do better now because I have more experience, but the only way I would be able to earn an adequate salary would be if I had the same doctors and the same specialties all the time, but I will likely not repeat the same doctor, specialty, or even facility within my work day.  The only trends I have been seeing in the last 5 years have been negative in terms of salary/benefits.  


I hope everybody's else's MT experiences are happier and if you choose to enter this profession, I wish you all the success in the world.  (My experiences as an MT may not be typical.  Your experiences may vary. Just telling you a different scenario than the rosy one generally depicted by schools and/or recruiters.)


I agree.
I don't know any other field where I can take a 6-month course and then work from home making decent money. I graduated 6 months ago and make at least $15 an hour and my line count is still increasing every day as I continue to add to my expander. I am so glad I pursued this field and am now able to spend more time with my family as I am no longer spending 3 hours a day in my car commuting back and forth to the jobsite.