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Posted By: Unpopular advice on 2009-06-12
In Reply to: New Grad Needing to Vent - Corrie

I am sure I will get all kinds of bashing for this one, but I am going to be honest with you and tell you that you should probably just LIE on your job application and you WILL get a job.  Most companies never check prior references.  Put on your application that you worked 3 years in-house in the hospital in your town and apply for one of the companies that may not be the best, but are always hiring, like Focus or MQ or something along those lines.  When you get the job, you can gain experience from there and then move on to a better company in the future.  Again, I'm sure I will get bashed, but you have to pay your bills and no it is not fair that you can't get a job without experience and no experience without a job.


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There is no difference in training.  In general, I think it would be easier to start out in house if possible.  There will be other people to help you with questions, etc., plus most in house positions are hourly positions.  You may still have a quota to meet, but at least you can count on the hourly pay.  


Your training would need to be very good to start out at home in the beginning.  At home you are pretty much on your own.  You will need good reference materials.  Most at home positions are paid by production.  That is good if you are fast.  But if you are just starting out, you may not make much in the beginning.  


All of this will depend on your individual needs and wants.  I think the best case scenario is to get a job in house for a couple years, then transition to home.  Good luck.    


 


 


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Long story, but the bottom line is after they switch me to something I'm unfamiliar with they tell me they don't have the time to train me on it, so where do I go from there. Then the company instituted some 98% accuracy policy and new QA policy. I would never met their expectations so why bother? If they were accommodating, I would understand, but they don't have the time. I understand that. Just want suggestions to assist me so if I try again will be more prepared.
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If you are an IC, they only need your SS number.  If you are an employee, then they need two forms of ID, such as driver's license and one other (maybe copy of birth certificate) and your home address. 


A lot of companies who hire people for IC positions don't know the law and ask for all kinds of stuff. 


They don't need a copy of your SS #, only your number. 


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First of all, I can't believe the company did not provide you a foot pedal.....hmmmm.  Anyway, try going to www.transcriptiongear.com.  They have every kind of pedal.  If you call their toll-free number and tell them you need a pedal for eScription, I bet they will know what you need.  Also, you could try going to www.escription.com and asking questions on their forum.  Good luck-!!
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First, do an extensive search on the internet for medical transcription companies, then test with the ones that will allow you to. Even though some companies may say they require two or more years of experience, some will waive that if you do well on their test. Try Spheris and Sten-Tel. They are known for sometimes hiring newbies.

Second, don't get discouraged! It can take a while to land your first job, but be persistent. It took me about five months for me to get my first job. Once you are in, then you will be gaining the experience required for applying for other jobs down the road.

Third, NEVER pay to work! This might sound strange, but there really are scammers out there ready to prey on newbies desperate to get their foot in the door. Some will say you need to purchase their software, or a footpedal directly from them, but you don't. You can always purchase those things independently.

Best of luck to you!
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Webmedx and Diskriter also provide the computer to the MT!
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M-Tec is the actual name of an excellent on-line school. Google that spelling plus medical transcription and you'll find the website. The other school would be Andrews, do a Google search the same way. Read about those programs and see how yours compares.

These 2 schools are worth every penny because students do get jobs right away.
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I've been with Spheris 5 years....the supes are decent, pay on time, platform is fine, insurance not good, some accounts end up in India, some will not, pay is average. I have been on same account 4 years.
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You said, "I know that many people who are extremely bright and smart cannot get hired because of lack of a certain certificate from only certain schools, which I think is crazy to limit the hiring process based on that only."

The reason for this is that after testing "x" number of graduates of XYZ school and finding out that 90% or more of them could NOT pass the employment test, companies decided to stop wasting time and just tell those grads that they need 2 years' experience.

On the other hand, after testing "x" number of grads of Andrews and M-Tec and discovering that 90% or more COULD pass the employment test even without experience, companies agreed to waive the experience requirement and allow grads of those schools to test.

Sure, there might be a few people from the not-so-good schools who might be able to pass, but who has that time to waste to weed them out?
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From what I've read from other students who have graduated from those programs, you shouldn't have a hard time finding work once completing the programs. They have a really good reputation and so companies hire right out of the program. Iwork from home, but I also work as an RT 1 day a week at a hospital, so I don't feel isolated. When I did work completely from home, I felt isolated. Personally, I need the social contact. I think as long as you stay active with your friends and family, it shouldn't be an issue. :)
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I have a Toshiba and I love it. It has 4 USB ports and a very good quality sound card. The only drawback is that it is loaded with Windows Vista and not XP. So if you are thinking about going with a company that does not support Vista, you will be out of luck.
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Due to the Freedom of Information Act, the government is required to provide information on any complaints filed with the Federal Trade Commission.  When the commission gets repeated requests regarding the same company, they add that company's file to their website entitled "Frequently Requested FOIA."  Please visit their website and read up on At-Home Professions before wasting your time and money.
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MT4 was the poster in question, not "nm."
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Sorry, I meant "tax preparer course" and finding a sample dictation for her to listen to and try to type.


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it is you and not PCDI. (I know . . . I was ugly this time, but how much clearer could I have been???)
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I am a CS graduate, and if I had it to do over, I'd choose Andrews School or M-TEC.

Almost all of the books you receive from CS are written by the lady who started the school. The other 2 schools use real reference books that contain a LOT more. That's one reason the other 2 schools cost more.

Also, the other 2 schools have real instructors who go over your work and point out errors, and help you along. At CS, your work is "automatically compared" against the same report done at some unknown time and place by some unknown MT, who may or may not have done it correctly. All you get is a comparison between the two, it only shows the differences, like holding two pieces of paper up to the light to see if everything matches. Whenever there are differences, it's up to YOU to figure out which one is correct. The only time a real person actually looks over your work is when you take your final exam (which over 50% of students fail the first time they take it, and that statement comes directly from CS itself, not from me).

Yes, I did get a work-at-home job after graduating from CS. But I feel my first year of work was a lot harder, I spent a lot more time looking things up, there were a lot of things I would have learned at Andrews or M-Tec that I didn't learn at CS.


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If she's already made her decision, I suppose this doesn't matter much.

But the fact is, if she takes the course from Andrews or M-TEC, she will indeed be able to pass most TRANSCRIPTION (not typing) tests right out of school. Many companies will waive the 2-year experience requirement for grads of those two schools because of the excellent training. Also, she should not need an internship if she takes the course from Andrews or M-TEC.
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You need to know that although you might have a "certificate" from an MT school, you are not a certified MT. In order to be certified, you need to have 2 years' experience and then take and pass a test with the AHDI (formerly AAMT).

You need to know this because when looking for a job, if you say you are "certified" and the employer checks the list of CMTs (certified MTs) and you are not on it, they will think you are lying about it to get the job.

It is a very common mistake, lots of new grads think because they have a "certificate" that they are certified, but there is a big difference.

Good luck in finding a job.
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MTstudent, what an awesome message! It has
encouraged me and I could say the very same things! I plan to begin either M-Tec or CS after the holidays; around Jan 10th.
Good luck to you!
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Contact your school for help first. See message
If your school can't help, you may have a problem. If their graduates usually get jobs, they will be glad to tell you where. They will be proud to tell you which employers like to hire their graduates. If they don't have any information to give, that means the results have been poor.
Who said anything about Spheris? The message was about accidentally getting into MT
I wouldn't want to encourage people to do it that way. I don't remember anyone mentioning Spheris. Maybe they did. I don't have time to go look. I am with those who think it's not smart to "bumble" into MT.
Doctors' offices pay little or nothing anyway. see message
I've seen this happen before. It usually turns out to be a mess and they go back to a classic transcription system. As far as coding, they use a Superbill anyway. They don't need a coder. They just list the codes and check off the appropriate ones for each student. They don't get paid as well as if they had an actual certified coder, but they won't or can't afford a real coder. That's nothing new. As far as the transcriptionist, most dermatologists don't hire transcriptionists anyway. They scribble the notes in the patient's chart. Even if they use some voice recognition system and get poor results, it may be easier to read than the scribbled notes. I've also noted that doctors who do have transcriptionists who know what they are doing are not willing to replace them with a machine. Others are easily replaced. That's just what I've seen and I have access to small and large organizations.
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Some advice on becoming an MT. See long message.
First, you MUST have excellent grammer, spelling and listening skills. Without these, don't bother. You won't be a success.

Transcription is not something you can do in your spare time. It is a very demanding profession. If you work as an independent contractor (IC), you set the amount of time you want to work, but your paycheck is dependent upon how much work you do. If you are not a fast typist, your hourly pay will be low. I think the average MT does around 150 lines per hour. At 8 cents per line, that's $12 an hour. This is just AVERAGE pay.

If you are an IC, you will usually have no benefits. No insurance, no paid time off, all taxes come out of your check. If you work as an employee, you will have to keep a schedule, and usually a minimum line per hour to stay employed.

Becoming an MT requires a lot of training. You are going in the right direction with a nationally approved school. One of the three will give you a better chance at a job if you graduate with high marks. But even after school, it can take up to 3 years to become fully trained and making "good" money, which runs between the $12-$18 per hour range. It is a big time investment.

My advice is call Career Step. I believe Andrews and MTEC will counsel you extensively before they will accept you, to make sure you really understand what you are getting into. I hope Career Step does the same, but I haven't heard as much about them.

It is a tough field, and not going to get any easier, although I still think it is a great profession. You have to look at all the aspects before you decide if it's for you. Call the school. In fact, I would make a list of questions and call all three schools. They can probably help you better than any of us can.

Best of luck on whatever you decide to do.
No, I did not feel as prepared as I could have been. See message.
I have been working as an MT for a little over 4 years. I am a CS graduate, and if I had it to do over, I'd choose Andrews School or M-TEC.

Almost all of the books you receive from CS are written by the lady who started the school. The other 2 schools use real reference books that contain a LOT more. That's one reason the other 2 cost more. Since graduating, I have purchased quite a few of the textbooks used by Andrews and M-TEC, and have improved my education significantly.

Also, the other 2 schools have real instructors who go over your work and point out errors, and help you along. At CS, your work is "automatically compared" against the same report done at some unknown time and place by some unknown MT, who may or may not have done it correctly. All you get is a comparison between the two, it only shows the differences, like holding two pieces of paper up to the light to see if everything matches. Whenever there are differences, it's up to YOU to figure out which one is correct. The only time a real person actually looks over your work is when you take your final exam (which over 50% of students fail the first time they take it, and that statement comes directly from CS itself, not from me).

Yes, I did get a work-at-home job after graduating from CS. But I feel my first year of work was a lot harder, I spent a lot more time looking things up, there were a lot of things I would have learned at Andrews or M-Tec that I didn't learn at CS.
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people who chose AHP, Penn Foster, etc. who managed to find a job afterwards, even in their own words state they were "lucky enough" or "blessed enough" to get on with a company, usually small and/or local. For every 2 or 3 of those posts, what about the literally hundreds of posts around the internet from grads of those same schools who have been unable to find a job, because "everyone wants experience." They say will only hire with experience because you have told them you went to an inferior school, got a poor education, and probably can't pass their employment test, so they don't want to waste their time on you.

So you can listen to the rare, occasional person who was "lucky enough" or "blessed enough" to get a job after taking a less expensive, inferior course, or you can listen to the people all over the internet who wish they had chosen Andrews or M-Tec (or even CS). No skin off my teeth.
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Apparently they have changed the requirements.  If you go on the website they say anyone can take the test, but they suggest two-years acute care experience for success on the test.  It used to be you could not even take the test without two-years experience.


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Please go to www.careerbuilder.com.  On the left hand side, enter into 'keyword' box, 'transcription work from home'.  Do not enter a city or state or category.  Now click on 'search'.  There are several jobs her for transcriptionists with little experience.  Some of them require that you live in a certain area.  Many of them do not.  When you call to inquire about these positions, make sure that it's not some sort of school thing that requires you to pay a fee.  I hope this is helpful.
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I'm not aking for anyone's pitty...! I'm saying that if people like you want MT's with experience then they need to be hired by someone in order to get that experience. I'm not asking for "top of the line" pay like experienced MT's and I resent you implying that I do!!!!
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Why should any MTSO be expected to hire someone who is clearly unqualified. Why should someone who broadcasts his or her poor skills in the initial contact be given "equal opportunity" with someone who really is qualified? It takes time and money to test and set up a new MT for work. That's time away from earning and money out of the MTSO's pocket. You think she should give that clearly unqualified and incompetent applicant a job? Why? It's not going to work out, as any experienced MTSO can tell you. You can tell from the initial contact when you've got someone who will not be able to do the work, no matter how much you try to help her or how many chances you give. It's not a matter of just being new, it's a matter of wheter the applicant is qualified, regardless of level of experience. New people with good skills will know enough not to make egregious errors in their communication with potential employers. Those people get hired. Those newbies get the opportunities. They deserve to get the opportunities because they can do the job. The unqualified, poorly trained newbies make their incompetence clear very early on, and MTSOs have learned to identify and eliminate them "right off the bat" (or bet, or whatever you think it is). Get down off your high horse and understand the needs of the person doing the hiring. Your message makes it clear you know nothing about the MT business or how to run any business. No one deserves a job just because he or she wants one. An applicant is going to have to show some potential before an MTSO is going to take a chance and make a job offer.
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Yes, I have sent an email to the person that had that posted. I am still waiting on some more information. Thanks for the suggestions.
I miss the CareerStep message boards

The boards are closed to people who didn't go to that school. I didn't go and love the school I went to, but that board was great because it had a lot of job leads and information on companies, especially smaller MTSOs. I would love to be able to access it again.


M-Tec and Andrews as the 2 best, definitely worth the money. See message.
They both have instructors, Career Step does not. They also use REAL books, CS uses books written by the person who sells the course and they are not as good. I took the CS course and if I had it to do over, I would choose M-Tec or Andrews instead.

You will be limited as to companies you can work for using only dial-up, and I think that's actually getting worse as more and more places require high speed internet.
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hearing may come from people who have graduated from subpar schools. If you decide to pursue MT, make sure you choose a program from this list:
http://www.ahdionline.org/scriptcontent/mtapproved.cfm

I graduated from M-Tec and had no trouble getting a job. I get emails from M-TEC off and on about employers who are interested in hiring M-TEC grads, so I think the jobs are still out there for those who are well educated.
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Upon graduation, I received a lengthy list of companies (see message)
that were willing to test grads of M-Tec without experience.

I now have my own MTSO. I require experience of everyone except Andrews and M-TEC grads. In my experience, they have performed wonderfully, even without experience.
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