And people who had no business owning a home jumped in; not
Posted By: sm on 2009-02-19
In Reply to: YES - BLAME IT ON THE LENDERS! - sm
with a gun at their head, but because of the attitude of I want what I want when I want it. I refuse to pay for LOSERS who can't manage money. Reward the irresponsible (the O way) and neglect those of us who have done the right thing, have savings in the bank, live debt free, pay our mortgage on time and live within our means. The American Way, everyone else is responsible for YOUR behavior and poor choices.
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It's people like you that need to mind your own business
I would never have an abortion or dream of having an abortion. To me I couldn't do it, but as an MT I know there are a myriad of other issues that one would have an abortion.
How arrogant and "un christian" of you to judge other people.
What would lead someone to have an abortion?... there are many reasons that neither you nor I would be able to think of. Yes, I have typed reports for girls who have had multiple abortions and some that use it as birth control, and I think that's a shame but it's not my place to judge them. I would rather hear of someone who had an abortion rather than bring a child into this world that would be raised in a drug infested, alcoholic abusing, sexually abusing, financially poor household where they would receive no love or attention. Or maybe there is a serious health condition in which this baby would be "impaired" if born.
As an MT I type many reports of girls having abortions. While I feel sad for them I also know that I have no idea what someone else is going through that would bring them to that stage in their life.
It's so easy for you to put a label on them as "muderers". I could argue the same thing if you eat meat. Then you are also part of the group who will murder animals just so you can eat them.
I do believe that a lot of people who have abortions have hearts and a conscious and go through a depression after what they have done, but to be judged by someone who doesn't even know them or what they are going through just adds fuel to the fire.
Stay out of people's business. If someone wants to (or needs to) have an abortion that is between them and their doctor. Not any political figure or religous nutcake.
The girl who has to make the choice of having an abortion should only be judged by one being - our creator.
It serves big business, not the American people
And I could care less about a "check." I am more concerned with job creation. If you think that big business has our best interests in mind, look again, who benefitted from the big bank bailout? Certainly not the populace. Speculators are driving up the cost of gas again. McCain, who admitted he knows little about economics, has no business drawing up a plan he knows nothing about.
"a lot of people stayed home because they knew it wouldn't count"
If I knew my vote wouldn't count I wouldn't drag my kids to the polling place w/ me. Why would I?
I think you hit the nail on the head and i'm going place this on Obama's My Space comments. Maybe it will get to him some how.
And owning a gun wouldn't have help either one of them.
That's the point.
You mean owning up?.....like Nixon?
Let's see your statistics. I'm assuming you've done a lot of research to support these claims.
As stated below, my guess is the wrong-doers are about 50 percent Republican and 50 percent Democrat. The only thing I can see that is particularly ironic or shameful is that the Republican party generallly portrays itself as the superiorly moral, family-oriented party.
And George supported bigger profits for bigger business and richer people, that was soooo much bette
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LOL. Piglet jumped off the carousel and
LOL. I'm finding you two and myself a little too amusing today. Think I've been staring at a computer screen too long today because I'm finding this conversation funny all of a sudden. Oh well. Laughter is good for you right? 
For all those O lovers who jumped on the plumber
Obama stated today, while trying to turn the plumber thing back towards McCain as if he NEVER said "spread the wealth" this.......
"How many of you know a plumber that makes half a million dollars?". McCain never said that, Obama did. Obama told the plumber that the business he was looking at buying which may or may not make 250K would be taxed to "spread the wealth" around. Boy, he's desperate now.
Now for all those O lovers who have had such a hatred all of a sudden of a "rich" plumber, how ya gonna back peddle on that one? You and Obama need to get on the same page...... now even Obama says a plumber can't make 250K! What a joke he is.
Ok, so they jumped all over DePass and he apologized....sm
And David Letterman makes an obscene comment about 14 year old Willow Palin and gets a bye? Plus gets his contract renewed for another 2 years? Does anybody see anything wrong with this picture?
We're not holding our breath. Owning up
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Government now owning/running U.S. car companies?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/15/obama-car-czar-oversee-auto-industry/
WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama plans to appoint senior administration officials -- rather than a single "car czar," as had been discussed -- to oversee a restructuring of the auto industry.
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and National Economic Council Director Lawrence Summers will oversee the across-the-government panel, a senior administration official said Sunday on the condition of anonymity because no announcement had been made.
"The president understands the importance of this issue and also understands that the auto industry affects and is affected by a broad range of economic policies," the official said.
As the teams move forward, Obama "wants to make sure that we're getting the expertise and input of agencies across the government," the official said.
Obama and his aides face difficult choices on the fate of the U.S. auto industry, weighing the cost of pouring billions more into struggling companies against possible bankruptcies that could undermine plans to jump-start the economy.
General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC are racing against a Tuesday deadline to submit plans to the government. The plans are to be followed by weeks of intense negotiations ahead of a March 31 deadline for the final versions of the reports.
GM and Chrysler are living off a combined $13.4 billion in government loans. If they don't receive concessions by March 31, they face the prospect of having the loans pulled, followed by bankruptcy proceedings.
Any bankruptcy would be particularly painful, with some economists predicting the country could lose 2 million to 3 million jobs this year and the unemployment rate, now 7.6 percent, could swell past 9 percent by the spring of 2010.
In television interviews Sunday, White House senior adviser David Axelrod didn't respond directly when asked if the U.S. economy could withstand a GM bankruptcy. Nor did he directly address a question about whether the Obama administration would let GM go into bankruptcy.
"I'm not going to prejudge anything. I think that there is going to have to be a restructuring of those companies. I'm not going to get into the mode of how that happens. We'll wait and see what they have to say on Tuesday," he told "FOX News Sunday."
Executives at the two automakers have said bankruptcy is not an option because consumers would not buy cars from a company that might go out of business.
"How that restructuring comes is something that has to be determined," Axelrod said. "But it's going to be something that's going to require sacrifice not just from the auto workers but also from creditors, from shareholders and the executives who run the company. And everyone's going to have to get together here to build companies that can compete in the future."
Enter the President's Task Force on Autos. That group will use officials from the departments of Treasury, Labor, Transportation, Commerce and Energy. Members of the National Economic Council, the White House Office of Energy and Environment, the Council of Economic Advisers and the Environmental Protection Agency will also be involved, according to the administration official.
Obama also plans to name restructuring expert Ron Bloom a senior adviser to Geithner. He will not be the "car czar" pointman many labor and business leaders expected. Bloom, a former consultant to the United Steelworkers of America, will be doing much of the financial analysis for the administration.
Geithner is expected to be the only Cabinet secretary to be part of the panel, the senior administration official said. Deputy secretaries, however, would be involved.
Obama "felt it was important to have the treasury secretary as his official designee to oversee these loans," the senior administration official said.
GM spokesman Greg Martin said the company welcomed the task force.
"We expect to meet soon with this team to share GM's detailed restructuring plan to restore our company to viability and to meet the requirements of its loan agreements," he said.
The terms of the federal loans set "targets" for concessions, largely from debt-holders and the United Auto Workers union, but concession talks have made little progress with just a couple days left before the initial deadline.
Negotiations between GM and the UAW broke off Friday night but resumed Sunday, still focusing on exchanging the company's cash payments into a union-run retiree health care trust for GM stock, according to a person briefed on the talks who didn't want to be identified because the bargaining is private.
GM and UAW officials declined comment.
GM and Chrysler don't need to have everything nailed down for Tuesday's progress reports, but the companies are expected to detail concessions along with plant closures, the potential elimination of brands and thousands of job cuts.
Axelrod wouldn't say whether the administration would offer the auto industry more bailout money. GM already has borrowed $9.4 billion to stay in business, and it would receive an addition $4 billion if the Treasury Department approves its viability plan. Chrysler wants $3 billion more on top of the $4 billion it has already borrowed.
"We need to see what it is that they come up with this week," Axelrod said.
Nancy Pelosi wouldn't know the truth if it jumped out and bit her....
Nancy is spinning like a top to keep herself out of trouble. Every time she opens her mouth she puts her foot in it again. How many times has she told this story? How many times has it changed?
The fact that this woman is 3rd in line to be president should scare the living daylights out of every single one of us.
Go home Obama! Go home McCain!
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Kenya has no business in the business of the U.S.
I may be an idjit myself and I am certainly the most cynical of the cynical. While I'm about it, I think Obama's mom was a bit of an idjit for making the decisions she made in life but I guess that was her business.
As for GWB, he certainly does deserve some discussion. Like why did he not straight away pardon those 2 border patrol agents who were the target of the worst miscarriage of justice I have personally ever seen? Could there be something synister there? I think so.
I am most certainly NOT a liberal and by the heart of conservatives, I am NOT a conservative either. I do agree with them (if they really believe it) that abortion and gay marriage are wrong. HOWEVER, my opinion being stated, I believe those are moral issues and as such belong to God and not the government. I also do not believe God requires my assistance in passing judgement on them.
Soooo....with all the problems we were facing, t here are many more important issues than Obama's birth certificate. I drug my feet in voting for Obama but I do have a glimmer of hope that he is working to at least get some plan in place for the day he is inaugerated. Everyone deserves a chance. The American people have spoken so it's time to put this b/c nonissue to rest and get to the business of importance...like millions of people projected to be unemployed and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, which if something isn't done and soon we are headed for the worst times most of you have ever seen and you'll have enough to worry about just wondering how you're going to put food on the table.
It is none of your business!
Mind your own business.
of course it's our business, she put herself in this
to be under a microscope.
I think that they will go out of business
when any baby boomer without insurance goes out and buys it once he/she has been diagnosed with cancer. Then, when your child needs insurance, there will be no money left to pay for him/her.
Should be NONE of YOUR business how many
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Gay is their business...whether or not it is a
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Why is that your business?
I am not being hateful or anything. I am just wondering why you consider their marriage or lack of your business?
but again - why is it your business?
If you don't like it, then don't participate in it. I don't believe that biblically gay is acceptable, but if they want to get married and live the married lifestyle, then it does not hurt me. I am not living their lifestyle and I am not participating in their lifestyle. That is their personal decision. It does not affect me or my familiy or my lifestyle one bit by what they do in their home.
I believe that we have much more important things to worry about than whether two gay people are "legally" married or not...
NO - IT IS NOT YOUR BUSINESS
I don't believe your story about 4 of your friends. Too much of a coincidence I would say. You might have just well said you had 12 or more friends who all went through the same thing.
Like the poster said above - until you walk in someone else's shoes mind your own business. People are not put on this earth to meddle in other people's lives (people you don't know) and get involved in things you have no idea about and try to push your viewpoints. News flash - your viewpoints are not always right.
Well, if you want to go into business of producing
vaccines I'll be right behind you cheering you on. If it's such an urgent matter then why don't you do it? Like I said, the government will give you a grant for doing it, but it won't even cover the costs of making the vaccines. Yeah, I'm sure you're ready to fill out that grant request first thing Monday morning.
I worded the vaccine statement wrong. I heard yesterday on the radio, when all the ADD and autism with flu shots was being discussed, the majority of vaccines are now being made overseas, because companies have to take a hit just to make them. THEY SAID that no smallpox vaccines were being made in the U.S. The government does not make it feasible NOR do they protect these companies from litigation.
Do you think the government needs to strong arm drug companies into making vaccines for little or no profit? If you do then you've shifted into a whole other political view.
Business politics
You nailed it when you said business. However, if a conservative had said the same thing you and Lurker just stated you would have disputed that. Liberals swear up and down Murdoch is a conservative Republican, but the truth is Murdoch is all about Murdoch and what sells. His politics is business.
I never dispute big business...sm
I know they rarely have the little guy in mind or stand on principals. Murdoch is down with the republican party right now, but he's thinking about '08 as it appears the tide is changing (bush ratings). He has told the Washington Post that he is not sure if he will back Hillary or McCain in '08. He's waiting to see how the tide rolls to see which propaganda his news engine will push.
That's her business and choice if she does, not yours.
Just because YOU wouldn't be able to handle children plus a job doesn't mean another woman wouldn't. Perhaps your energy or patience level isn't up to it, but I know plenty of women that have high-profile careers and young children and handle both beautifully. It's all about balance. Again, just because you might not be able to find that balance doesn't mean others can't.
What has Obama run by himself. What business?
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small business
Me and DH own a small recreation business, and quite frankly, a few years ago, when the gas prices started getting out of control is when our business started hurting. We are taxed individually, not as a corporation, so I don't see anything in O's tax plan that would hurt us. Maybe help us a bit. Most small business owners aren't making a large fortune, those are the big corporations who have so many dam@ loopholes anyway!
Besides the fact that as a new business...sm
owner does he really think he is right away going to have a $250,000 PROFIT anytime soon, if ever. Not likely.
Really who you vote for is your own business.
This way it keeps everyone happy. Being a dem myself and being raised by republican parents, I tend to be on the fence sometimes, but I still consider myself a dem voter. I'm no expert. Otherwise, I'd being doing something other than MT and posting on this board.
Your friends should appreciate the fact that it is a personal decision on your part. 
It becomes my business when they attempt to
Laws affect everyone. They don't want "rights"...they have rights. They just want to change laws to somehow prove they are legitimate, as if the fact they are human doesn't make them a legitimate human being already? I have every right to make it my business when they want to change the laws to suit their lifestyle.
OK, Now I KNOW I am in the wrong business. nm
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Anyone who runs a business knows there is
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If you are against abortion, that's your business, but...
You have got a lot of nerve comparing abortion to the Holocaust!
My morals are my business.
I am not interested in discussing my morals, especially with people who are trying to shove their morals and their religion down my throat. That's the whole point of my post. Keep your moral and religious beliefs to yourself!
A Better Business Model
If only all business owner's thought this way...
DENVER - Eleven-year FreeWave Technologies Inc. employee Melanie Duran says the wireless data radio maker is a great place to work. But you can judge for yourself.
The Boulder-based company says it has had profits every month since it hired its first employee in 1995. There have been no layoffs. Employees get company-funded retirement plans and bonuses based on profits and growth.
And there's more: As part of a $113 million private-equity investment deal in 2007, FreeWave is sharing $9 million of investors' money with its fewer than 100 employees as a reward for the company's success. Shares are divvied up based on individual performance. FreeWave refused to disclose individual payments.
The $9 million, for eligible employees who were with FreeWave when it won the investment, has been paid out in three installments. Company founders Steve Wulchin and Jonathan Sawyer are handing out the last payments Thursday.
"We're fortunate to have great bosses," said Duran, a production lead. The extra money is helping the 33-year-old close on buying her first house.
"This is something that in today's economy Steve and Jonathan don't have to do, and yet they've chosen to do it," said Tim Ake, a Navy veteran and production manager who has been with FreeWave for about five years. "That inspires me to go and do likewise," said Ake, who typically gives some of his bonuses to his church and to charity.
No business owner in their
Come on...paying back the employees that actually do the work that makes the company succeed?? Creating an atmosphere that makes the employees feel that they have made a contribution to the success of the company and acknowledging their contribution in a financial manner...that is so 1950's.
Do you own a business? If not, you don't have a clue
Small businesses are laying off right now DIRECTLY RELATED to Obama being in office. I personally know several small business owners in this town with anywhere from 50 to 200 employees and they are already laying off and anticipating laying off more BECAUSE of Obama's regulations which he is/will IMPOSE on small businesses, while all the while convincing O lovers such as yourself that job loss has absolutely nothing to do with him!
I know this for a fact! So don't be so quick to give your Obama a free pass.....
He is running this dog and pony show with disasterous results already!
You can't keep pointing your finger at Bush for the rest of Obama's term; Obama is directly responsible for ALL the mistakes he is now making.... why don't you hold him responsible???
I think we know the answer to that question, so never mind.
Then the poster should have kept her business to herself!
She murdered a baby and then comes on here with her little sob story and you boobs eat it up. Oh...you're so heroic ... oh... you're so brave.
Uh... no she's not. She's a baby killer. And if she wanted everyone to stay out of her business, she should have come on here and typed it out on a PUBLIC FORUM!!!!!!
I don't have to walk in a killer's shoes to know I'm not a killer.
If you do, then I pray for the safety of your neighbors. You're quite obviously unhinged.
None of your business, I can post
MY opinion to everything I want, as long as it is not against the rules of this forum.
You are not the owner or moderator of this forum, so do not overstep your boundaries.
Go home
Now, isn't it you, AG, who whine everytime someone you think is a liberal, posts on your board? Yet, here you are posting on the liberal board, where you clearly don't belong. Hmm, must be that conservative double standard again. Wow!
Anyway, girls shouldn't be posting on a board for grownups.
Thanks for the welcome home.
My mom (god rest her soul) would be absolutely thrilled I've come back to "the real world". She would then probably say to me "Bout time you got off those drugs", and we would both have a good laugh.
I have mixed feelings about Hannity. He's okay sometimes and other times I think he's condescending and smug. In all fairness to him I also think that way about Alan Colmes, Keith Obermann, Rush Limbaugh, and all the other "extreme" media people. I do understand what you mean when you asked if I was Hannitized. I do like his radio show when I get a chance to listen to him. (I just wish he'd get a new theme song and not that woman who is screaming (got to cover my ears when she belts out "Let Freedom Ring". I understand her message and the words, but if she could just sing them a bit softer. :-) That's neat you met him? What was he like. He seems like a nice person in real life.
DH people will say means darling husband. In my case it means Dam% husband. Ha ha
I think they should all go home
and let Wall Street bail themselves out.
i dont need to mind my own business!
this is a discussion OPINION board. First - Who said I was out protesting outside of abortion clinics Second, who said I was Christian? Maybe I should have clearly stated my position in the fact that I meant people using abortions as birth control, or just because the pregnancy is an inconvenience should be ashamed. If it is for a medical reason, then I understand! And to people like you that make excuses for why babies shouldn't be brought into the world, it's a little thing called responsibility... and lots of people like you and other pro choicers dont know what that word means! About the drug babies and such... why dont you do some research on how many abortions are had by people like that... i'll give you a clue.. it's NOT a high percentage. if you are a teenager having sex then guess what, deal with what God gave you right? oh wait that's a Christian thing to say huh...
As an IC, I'm considered a small business, so
but not really sure which will benefit me the most. ICs must all think like small businesses and consider taxes based on that, not as individual taxpayers.
I actually don't agree with either one on all tax issues, so I'm still on the fence. I doubt Barack will be able to enact and MAINTAIN the tax cuts he has promised. I agree with giving seniors a break on taxes when they are on a limited budget, for example, but Barack has said seniors making less than $50K. That means if they make $49K (which is more than I make, BTW), they don't have to pay ANY taxes?? Lower that amount a tad and I might see it as reasonable, but a senior making more than me, receiving senior discounts, Medicare, etc., and then not having to pay taxes. Seems a little off balance somehow.
And simplifying tax preparation isn't one of my top priorities, I have TurboTax for that. A lot of his other tax proposals pretty much mirror McCain's so I don't see much difference there, like the R&D, small biz, etc. I like his ideas on taxes, but IMO, his website is full of promises that he will have a VERY hard time fulfilling.
I like that Barack addresses credit card practices. I feel this is a BIG problem. Good creditworthy people are getting screwed by shady practices of credit card companies left and right. I don't see where McCain has addressed this.
I like McCain's summer gas tax holiday, lowering gas prices in the summer, since historically, gas prices always climb through summer especially around the holidays. I also like his HOME plan, as this would make the people truly affected by subprime loans eligible to trade their mortgage. But probably what I like most is McCain's view on healthcare - restoring control to the PATIENTS. I know people that live in countries with Government provided healthcare, and they do not have any more control over that than any of us with paid insurance policies do. I feel the only way to change this issue is to crack down on the insurance companies, force their hands to make premiums more affordable, make them honor their premium terms, limit their restrictions on patients and pre-existing conditions, and do not allow them to tell patients what procedures they can and can't have and what doctors they can and can't see.
Unless their PROFIT from that business exceeds...sm
$500,000 a year ($250,00 x 2 if both work in the business) they will not pay additional taxes.
talked with a smal business
owner who is days away from master's degree in finance. When I told her that this board was blaming the Federal Reserve Board for this crisis, she laughed out loud. She said that was like blaming sports reporter when a game is lost. She states it is the policy of letting the big financial institutions play fast and loose with people's money by bundling a whole lot of complicated things together (including worthless mortgages) and selling them to others. basically, the republicans saying make money any way you want, hurt anyone you want.
If it is a small business, then it is exempt from this - nm
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I agree. As a business owner now, if
my taxes are raised, I'm just going to go to work for someone else and close my business down. ALL of my employees will lose their jobs, their benefits, their insurance.
It is the business owner's profit that he...sm
takes home after all expenses are paid.
It was $250K including a business....
and $250K for a business is nothing. and since when is rich a bad word. Only when someone is jealous.
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