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At least now we know why he has been pushing so hard

Posted By: for everyone to vote early on 2008-11-02
In Reply to: WHAT THE HECK? Obama says himself, "I will make energy prices skyrocket" - 2 days before election. YOU ARE CRAZY TO VOTE FOR

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sorry: ....a-r-e pushing....n/m
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I am not pushing my beliefs on you...
I am merely standing for what I believe in, just as you do. You seem defensive, and when people are defensive, that generally means they feel guilty. If you believe in a woman's right to choose to abort a child, that is your right, and you do not need me to endorse that. Just as I do not need you to endorse my feeling that life does begin at conception, I believe the soul begins at the same time. I do not believe a child growing in the womb is soul-less. We agree to disagree.
you are pushing secularism on me
every time I hear that there is no God and that abortion is not murder or should be legal or that we cannot pray in public or that the 10 commandants should be taken out of the government buildings, or God off of the money, I am getting secularism pushed onto me.  So how is that different?  Is that supposed to be okay to???? Where are my rights?
The only thing I'm pushing for
is the right to do with MY body what I see fit.  I don't care what your religion is, where you pray, etc.  I just simply don't think what I do with my body is YOUR decision. 
JBB won't read anything.....too busy pushing
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sooo Hillary is pushing for this electronic

not sure exactly what she means by that but that sounds scary for our profession.  Anybody got the 411 on this?


At first I thought these people pushing the b/c issue
were just plain ole MTs with inquiring minds, however, wrong they might be.  The poster above who said "put your money where your mouth is"  finally got a light bulb to come on in my brain.  These people have an agenda, whatevier it may be, but it is NOT the Constitution or they would have trampled Bush a long time ago.  I doubt they are MTs.  I believe they have an agenda that is way darker than the birth certificate issue and I am going to keep posting to their posts so that hopefully unsuspecting, well-meaning  MTs might THINK and see them for what they are.
Public schools are NO place for pushing the
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They aren't pushing a "gay agenda"...(sm)
They're pushing TOLERANCE.....something you could obviously use a lessen in.
I agree. No one should be pushing their ideals in public schools.SM
Just the regular math, science, drama, choir, social studies works for me.

Parents are responsible for educating on religion, sex (though a little sex ed is not a bad thing), politics, etc.
Exactly...but Obama is still pushing his Global Poverty Bill.....
It is designed to send BILLIONS of our hard earned dollars to Africa and other 3rd world countries to cut poverty there by half.

How can he cut their poverty by half?? He should be worrying about OUR poverty. Which is a telling point in my mind. Why is Obama so bent on giving OUR money away? I don't know about you, but I don't need the govt' telling what to do or not do with my money. I earned it, I have the final decision.
What I find wrong is that he's pushing his own ego-driven agenda
regardless of what anyone thinks. I think this is called FALSE reassurance.
Well, quit pushing the liberal religion down our throat in government...
schools, and universities and we'll be happy to call a truce until then...we'll fight you on ideals.  
I guess it is the idea that in the spirit of Christmas the NRA is pushing their agenda...sm
Is nothing sacred? And that goes beyond politics.

Santa with a gun. Right over baby Jesus. Insinuating that Muslims want to blow up Christianity. All in the name of being able to bear arms.

I can't name ONE act of terrorism in American history in the last 100 years that a citizen bearing arms would have saved ONE person from a terrorist.

A gun wouldn't have helped anyone in the trade center, can't take them on a plane so wouldn't have saved any of the passengers, Oklahoma bombing, nope a gunn wouldn't have helped those victims. Just another scare tactic, exploiting 9/11 to push their agenda that was here before waaaayyy before the fact.


One nation, under Stalin....right....you keep pushing that unity thing and we'll be completely
Keep trying to convince yourself.


It's Putin, and Chavez, and Castro that are so proud of us now.


That is, when they're not laughing at us behind our backs.


You are so naive.
Hard to believe
that there are still people in this country who can't see this, who still worship Bush no matter how badly he disregards the Constitution and American freedom.  Our forefathers must be turning in their graves.
It is hard to believe, but a lot believe whatever sm
they hear on TV news, etc. They have heard the term our democracy so much, everyone believes this is our form of government, but it is not. America is a Constitutional Republic. Things are said enough and you eventually believe them. This is how propaganda works.
not so hard to believe

from http://www.infowars.net/articles/may2006/100506clinton.htm


The Clintons and the Bushes have been known to vacation together in more recent times. Earlier this year on CBS, Clinton revealed that he looks upon the Bushes as a surrogate family, and how Barbara Bush refers to him as her son. Is this really a picture of two distinct and opposed political ideologies pitted against one another?


You know, if you look hard enough

on the internet you can find "facts" to back up just about any ridiculous claim from two-headed monsters, to ape babies to all sorts of conspiracy theories.  There's even a cult that worship their own stool (yes I am not making this up) and I'm sure this cult has multiple references and "facts" to back up their beliefs in preserving their feces forever. 


But all that doesn't make it true.  And the discriminating and intelligent person should be able to tell feces from fact, but apparently you can't.


Who says they don't fit, maybe you are just not trying hard enough! nm
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Must have been hard..........sm
to hold that little baby, knowing it was thrown away by her mother and had to suffer such consequences. I sometimes think situations like that are worse than even the partial birth abortion.
Hard to believe

Question is who is behind him and who put him where he is.  This is an old article but the issues are still current.  And this is from..The Pakistan Daily (not America)


http://www.daily.pk/world/84-worldnews/6726-barack-obama-is-not-a-us-citizen.html


 


Not hard to believe
First, I find trying to associate Sarah Palin with this lady is ridiculous.

Obama's associations not so ridiculous, especially when there are pictures, witnesses, etc.

Second, it is not so hard to believe that Sarah and Todd have not met these people. My mom and dad did not meet my inlaws until 2 weeks before our wedding when we had a dinner. And my mom's parents didn't meet her inlaws until maybe a week before her wedding.
Trying really hard to think
why I would care what Rick Warren thinks. 
This is not hard to
In the view of Christians:

1. God does not condone evil, nor does He protect those who commit evil acts from the consequences of those actions.

2. There is a responsibility to protect the innocent that supercedes any conflicting obligation that might exist toward those who would kill them.

3. God was much harsher toward the oppressors of the innocent than anything the CIA has ever done. Try reading about the plagues He visited upon Egypt if you want to talk "torture".

I could go on, but there's no point. I'll just say thank God for Christians; a lot of people are alive in Los Angeles because we were able to disrupt a plan that was already in motion. If left up to the faux moralists (who would torture their own grandmothers in a minute if they thought it would save their own lives), those people would be dead. But hey - no AL Qaida would have had to look at a caterpillar!
You are very welcome. Its hard sm
to keep up with when you work for them much less the general public.
Yep, it's not hard to believe that the neocon
Limberger is a liar in the midst of all of his drama how can he keep a story straight?

He probably forgets half of it anyway, that's the drug effect.
Laughing so hard I go...
 into silent laughing, mode, thinking I will fall off my chair but I don't. That's how much I am laughing at this. He did make an appearance and say something, however lukewarm it was, I will say that for him, more than others do when they actually do kill/lie/out people.  Chavez, on the other hand, is giving oil away, giving billions to help Cuba and The Dominican Republic with oil prices which have soared to $4 a gallon in the islands. It is part of what he calls Petrocaribe. He is helping to rebuild decrepit refineries in the islands as well. Same goes for his own country where you can fill your tank for about $2. Whatever his politics are; he is sharing the wealth of his country with, omg!!! real everyday people and poor everyday people. What an evil dangerous man. I think we should kill him.  Want to really annoy a Republican...share whether or not the person/country with whom you are sharing meets your own moral criteria for giving, you know, the worthy poor versus the unworthy poor. And before anyone starts in with Chavez beomg a communist, socialist, a danger to the United States tripe, I have one word...China.
Not really that hard to grasp.
A great article about the Gulf of Tonkin incident can be read here:

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/
g/gu/gulf_of_tonkin_incident.htm

But to answer more plainly, the point is that Johnson in all ways was a dead ringer for today's Republicans. He did not represent the Democratic ideals then or now. Interesting snip of the article:

Most Americans know little of the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. Historians have shown that the Johnson administration provoked the incident with the intention of crafting a pretext for making overt the American covert involvement in Vietnam.

Sound like anyone you know? Sound like two Texas politicians might have owned the same playbook? Should either one of them be admired for that? I can certainly say no!

So when are those on the Wrong Right going to place blame where blame is clearly due on BOTH sides of the aisle?
I find it hard to believe you don't see it.

I would say a big no on that one - why are people trying so hard to get her in
I haven't figured out yet why people are trying so hard to get her into office. She should go back to being a Senator from NY. She even said earlier in her campaign that being a Senator is a very good job. I have not figured out (and I really have tried to be objectionable) as to why people want her back in there. Doesn't anyone remember what it was like when the Clintons were in before. I know that speaker of the house doesn't get her "in" the white house, but you have to remember that if something happens to President and VP then speaker of the house is next in line. That would make me very nervous and I'd be constantly looking over my shoulder as to what she and Bill are up to. I think she should go back to being a senator or congress person and leave it at that.
Its hard to calm down
You know when Kerry ran against Bush I did not feel this way. When Gore ran it was a little different because he was still associated with the clintons and I didn't not want a Clinton 3rd term. I just can't understand how someone can say something so shameful and hurtful. I can't even imagine what Obama's wife is thinking. Probably one of her biggest fears, and then along comes her husband's oponent and says something like this? Just really gets the blood pressure going. Some of the media is trying to make excuses for her but there is just no excuse. I wouldn't think so harshly if she had come out right away and said in no way did she mean what came out of her mouth, but she waits til the end of the day and then tries to cover it up and doesn't even apologize. Despicable and sleezy!!!!!!
I really find it hard to believe
the Clintons when I know deep down they don't want him for prez either.  How can you endorse someone when you tried so hard to put them down and show they weren't right for the job in the first place?
What is so hard about answering a
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That may be, but it is hard for me to understand....sm
after being a prisoner of war and saying he was tortured that he can say that torture of prisoners is OK. This only puts our soldiers in harm's way.
See. Was that so hard? It is up to anyone who reads it...
what to take from it.
And I think he works very hard trying to ...
take down a God he doesn't even believe exists by ridiculing people who know He exists. If God doesn't exist, what difference does it make? Methinks he doth protest too much...lol. Lotta guilt there from somewhere. lol.
No, what's hard is not getting banned from

I work hard and get no help from anybody.
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It is very hard to believe this senario when...sm
she says she is an MT and between she and her husband are earning 24,000 a year and working their butts off. Something just doesn't add up. She is the one that brought the subject up about what she and her husband make. Her opinion of what working her butt of means and mine is very different. 40 hours a week as an MT even with minimum production and a the lowest cents per line would easily add up to more than 18-20,000 a year. Hello.
It is hard to believe that so many people
can put so much hope, trust, adoration and committment, thus making a god of this man. It is plain sickening.
hard hearted
Wow, I am offended, I am actually very soft hearted and concerned for many people and causes, but I guess, since I don't agree with you that makes me EVIL. You guy are too much, lol!
no no no. It is hard to tell how people
mean things when typing and I read my post and thought maybe it came across negatively!
Still feel for you, it must be hard to keep
up such a happy facade with such hate and bitterness inside of you. I can just imagine you hunkered down over your keyboard, directing your anger and bitterness to those out in cyberspace who don't think like you. There are so many larger issues in this world that are much more important than gay marriage. The time will come when it will be accepted. Until then, why not turn your negative energy into something positive instead of dwelling on something the majority of us don't want.
Oh no, Mr. Bill. Another BC die-hard?
No wonder you are so nauseated by the countdown. Suddenly your posts make perfect sense, even though there is no logical connection between the BC blowhards and reality. So much for the open-minded thingy.

The precise reference I was making was "methinks thou doest protest too much," or in some transliterations, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." I was using the phrase rather loosely in an attempt to avoid the pounding libs often take for being all elite if they quote Shakespeare or try to use his Bardisms. It's from Hamlet. Doth and doest have been used interchangeably in literature, as have you and thou. Like any quotation, it takes on its fullest meaning when it appears within its context.


Why do you just ignore the hard
the gutter? Girl, you need to get a life! Oh, that's right, you said you did already. Transcribing 3500 lines a day, then the rest of a day stirring the pot on an internet forum just isn't my idea of a life.
It was hard to watch that...
It was like watching a cockroach squirm around after being sprayed with Raid.
I find it hard to believe....#7
that Canada would want to inherit our problems. Mexico? Well, so many of them live here already.......I really can't see them combining governments cooperatively - our country can't even get along (dems and pubs).
You would have a hard time.......... sm
convincing most schools that they need to teach basic good values to students. They would argue, and I tend to agree with them, that they have their hands full teaching children the educational skills needed to be successful in school and college. More and more is being required of our children at a younger and younger age. Most of the teaching revolves around learning the skills necessary to pass the standardized tests required in most states. Here in Texas, TAKS instruction takes up the majority of the school day. My son has a 2-hour math class and 2 separate language arts classes, both subjects of which are TAKS-required and required to pass the TAKS inorder to matriculate to the next grade.

I believe, and I believe most teaches would agree with me, that morals begin at home and are best taught by example and not by a teach-and-test method. I live in what is considered to be an "economically depressed" area and the attitudes of a good number of our students is abysmal at best, reflecting the attitudes of their own unemployed, welfare-recipient parent(s). Until parents' attitudes and values change, neither will the children's, and they are the ones who will suffer.
It's not that hard to be better than the rest of you.nm
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I really feel sorry for you. It must be hard to go
that you don't understand.

You ARE right about goodness prevailing - that's why gays and lesbians are finally being granted the right to be legally married, and live happy, fulfilled lives together! That's why Iowa decided it was time to be kind and fair, and do what's right, and grant their fellow human beings these simple rights.

But I feel pity for you, because the depth of your hatred towards a group of people you don't understand, simply because they happen to be different from you (in only ONE, very insignificant way), must really be quite paralyzing. I just can't imagine going through life worrying about whether 'certain people' are going to be allowed to 'join the club', and how that is somehow going to diminish it's value.