Boy.......ya'll really jump to conclusions don't ya?
Posted By: sm on 2009-01-21
In Reply to: Someone sounds jealous...... Obama won! Do not be treasonous! - Christian without the hate
I am democrat but I have to say, this was the worst I've seen it in a long time. I didn't vote for Obama because I think he is as crooked as he can be, maybe moreso that a lot of others up there. I don't trust his affiliations. I saw early on that the ONLY people he is worried about is the Muslim nations......aaahh, last time I checked, that ain't us!
I realize why some people voted for him, but I actually care about what's going on. And now he's showing his true colors.
I noticed all throughout the campaign, any time someone apposed Obama, they got slammed with Palin and McCain......why? Just because I do not care for Obama certainly doesn't mean I care for Palin either. Thre were a lot of democrats who did vote for McCain simply because their gut instinct was that of not trusting Obama's true intentions.......
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Strange, the conclusions you jump to about
I don't see a child who is born into this world as a tumor........sorry you do. Says tons about your mindset!
Why would you want to throw all the immigrants out? If they are here legally, they have every right here. "Illegals" are another thing.
BTW, this woman had a free clinic where she could obtain an abortion for FREE.....stop finding excuses for everyone.
Don't jump on me...jump on the attorney who filed it...
good grief.
That's how you make your conclusions???
You assume that every woman that has gotten pregnant and THEN married will have children that do the same? Well, if that's the case, Obama's mother got pregnant at 17 out of wedlock, so I suppose that means Obama's two daughters will do the same, since it's in their blood and all.....right???
Me either. I do my own research and draw my own conclusions.sm
Self-education is so important. It has caused a total shift in paradigm for me. As an example, I was led to believe something very different about JFK by my very Republican family and friends. They continue to assassinate his character to this day. If Kennedy lived, America would be totally different now. He tried to dismantle the Federal Reserve, get the troops out of South Vietnam, and truly govern the people.
Possible, but not jumping to conclusions until facts are in...
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Read the article and draw your own conclusions.
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Stop jumping to conclusions and making things up
This flu is nothing that just happened. It's 3 strains in one and was created in a lab.
So there was a coincidence in the timing of who was awarded a contract. She didn't say that Obama created this which is what your making it out to be. A lot of weird timings of stuff going on, but for Pete's sake stop turning something she pointed out into something she did not say.
I don't agree with the OPs statement about will Cheney come back and say I told you so, because this is not the concern of safety Cheney talked about.
I do believe there is more to the story that needs to be looked into.
So for Pete's sake calm down. She/he did not say Obama is at fault for the swine flu. You are trying to make something out of nothing.
Nice try for another pity party on the crat side. Won't work here.
Get a grip.
Wow, once again jumping to conclusions based on Faux Noise sm
inaccurate reporting by jumping on a story strictly for sensationalism. Mr. Latham has since been reinstated his job. It all turned out to be a misunderstanding by argumentative student that took something that Mr. Latham said, twisted it, and reported it to the principal. Once the misunderstanding was cleared up after all parties told their stories, Mr. Latham has his job back. Just another example of those ambulance chasers at Fox stirring the pot for their own hateful agenda. Maybe those of you on here that take everything they say as gospel woulld be wise to wait before you report something as fact!!
I jump for joy
I jump for joy, actually throw parties when conservative dinosaurs are wrong and actually when the murderer idiot in the WH has press conferences we party and shout and laugh at his challenge with the English language and his lies..Bush..puke, puke, vomit..
I think JMc did not jump
on Obama about his support of the bailout because then he might have to respond to the question of exactly what does McC support in this situation? He does not say what he will support because he wants to test the wind before he declares his opinion. He went back to Wash and got everyone fighting and then left. I loved Obama's chuckle when McC tried to compare Obama to Bush. It was my favorite moment of the debate. He has a great smile. I wonder who he was looking at to his left. Was Michelle sitting on the front row giving him support?
Well, I h ave to jump in here
This inauguration stuff is really on my nerves (and I voted for Obama.....er against McCain). I know this is an historic event and there have always been these big expensive parties. If we're going to have change, how about starting with this ridiculous spending? How many people actually get to attend the party? Not me. How about you? Probably not many of the common folks. We have 3 teachers from our local school who are attending the inauguration. They won't be attending the party either.
I am still not sorry I voted for Obama but there are already a few things that aren't sitting well with me. The extravagant party is 1 and his plan to give a "rebate" even to people who don't pay taxes is the other. The world IMHO has gone totally mad. Someone told me the other day that on the Christmas Angel tree for adults someone had put cigarettes as what they wanted. I don't know if this is true or not but I wouldn't doubt it. If soneone actually did that...the bloody nerve!
Anyway, I won't get on my soap box but we will see what we see.
Did the media jump all over...
the horrible HORRIBLE things that Charlie Rangel said about Bush the other day. Only O'Reilly. The rest of the media has given it a pass, as usual.
Go jump in a lake...nm
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A jump on Friday humor
Now that the Enron slimeballs have gotten theirs, a look back at some old late-night jabs:
This past Sunday, former Enron CEO Ken Lay went to a church in Houston. On the way out, a reporter asked him how he thought it was going to work out. Lay said with God's help we'll get through it. To which the Devil said, 'Hey, I thought we had a deal.' —Jay Leno
In Houston this week they had an auction for Enron. They sold all kinds of things that were once property of Enron. Lots of good deals — in fact I picked up 2 senators and a congressman. Hell of a deal. —Jay Leno
Playboy magazine is now doing a 'Women of Enron' pictorial spread. ... Apparently the only thing these women have left to shred is their dignity. —Jay Leno
Playgirl magazine is now offering the men of Enron a chance to post nude. Coincidentally, the men of Enron will soon be getting the same offer from their cellmates. —Conan O'Brien
President Bush revealed today there is a shadow government run by people who live outside of Washington in bunkers in case Washington was ever attacked. I thought the shadow government was the one Enron bought with all those contributions. —Jay Leno
Are you getting a big kick out of the Enron scandal? I find this interesting that whenever a big crisis starts, people start showing up in church. So, Ken Lay shows up in church this weekend. Church officials are still looking for the collection plates. —David Letterman
The wife of Enron CEO Kenneth Lay, Linda Lay, was on the 'Today' show yesterday. She said her husband is an honest, moral man who has done nothing wrong. And today Hillary Clinton said, 'You go, girl! ...She went on to say they've lost all their money. Luckily, they've still got plenty of everybody else's money.' —Jay Leno
Playgirl magazine is planning a pictorial spread for the men of Enron. You thought they were hiding massive deficits before. —Dennis Miller
The White House is sending Vice President Dick Cheney to the Middle East this month. You get the feeling that President Bush's opinion of Cheney has changed since the Enron thing broke? You know a few weeks ago, all they would say about Cheney is that he was in a safe, undisclosed location. He's hidden away. As soon as Enron popped up, they sent him to the most dangerous place in the world. —Jay Leno
The White House again refused to turn over discussions Vice President Cheney had with Enron officials over energy policy. Cheney said if he had to disclose every time some business donated a ton of money then came in to write its own policy to govern itself, he wouldn't get any work done. —Dennis Miller
Some members of Congress now are complaining they are underpaid. They want to propose a pay raise. You can't blame them. A lot of them took a big income hit when Enron folded. —Jay Leno
Former Enron CEO Jeffrey Skilling appeared before Congress. Do you think they even bothered swearing him in? Now he is denying he lied to Congress last week. He's saying it was just the liquor talking. —Jay Leno
The CEO of Enron, Jeffrey Skilling, married one of the Enron secretaries this week. It's amazing how romantic these Enron guys can be when they realize that wives can't be forced to testify against their husbands. Skilling said today she was the best secretary Enron had ever had. She could shred 950 words a minute. ... I guess they are on their honeymoon right now. That's going pretty well. Hey, he's used to screwing Enron employees. —Jay Leno
Over the weekend, former Enron executives Jeffrey Skilling and Rebecca Carter married each other during a huge ceremony in Houston. The happy couple is planning to honeymoon for three weeks in front of Congress. —Conan O'Brien
The Houston Astros want to change the name of Enron Field where they play. I guess the Enron name could cause problems for them. Like players could steal a base and then deny it. —Jay Leno
In the Enron scandal, whistleblower Sherron Watkins is now calling herself Enron Brokovitch. She testified Ken Lay was duped by the other executives. Oh, yeah. When is the last time you got duped and made $100 million? —Jay Leno
A lot of Congressmen yesterday were upset when Kenneth Lay took the Fifth. Lay said it wasn't his fault. He had planned on testifying, but when Jeffrey Skilling testified, he took all the really good lies. —Jay Leno
There are reports that former Enron CEO Ken Lay is missing. And I'm thinking, has somebody checked Dick Cheney's pockets? —David Letterman
President Bush revealed today there is a shadow government run by people who live outside of Washington in bunkers in case Washington was ever attacked. I thought the shadow government was the one Enron bought with all those contributions. —Jay Leno
The Enron scandal continues. The U.S. Senate has announced they are going to subpoena Ken Lay and make him testify. Apparently Lay received the subpoena this morning and then, out of habit, immediately shredded it. —Conan O'Brien
Today the United States has admitted that after months and months of searching, we still have no idea where Osama bin Laden is. Osama bin Laden? We can't even find Kenneth Lay. —Jay Leno
I did not have political relations with that man, Ken Lay. —Sen. Fritz Hollings (D-S.C.), poking fun at Bush for distancing himself from Enron
The big rumor going around is, we may begin bombing Iraq. Or, as the White House calls it, Operation Keep Enron Off The Front Page. —Jay Leno
Dick Cheney finally responded today to demands that he reveal the details of the Enron meetings. This is what he said. He met with unnamed people, from unspecified companies, for an indeterminate amount of time at an undisclosed location. Thank God he cleared that up. I'm ready to move on. —Jay Leno
It turns out Enron workers were not only shredding documents at work, they were having sex at work. Having sex and shredding documents. Those are two things you don't want to get mixed up. —Jay Leno
It was cold today. I was rubbing my hands together more than Dick Cheney at an Enron payday. —Jay Leno
Enron is now officially out of the energy business. They are now in a new business: confetti. —Jay Leno
Wouldn't it be great if all of Osama bin Laden's money was tied-up in Enron stock? —Dennis Miller
He's not a promise keeper yet. Don't jump the gun.
These press conferences are to let everyone know who's going to be in his cabinet and to reiterate that he had no contact with Blago. Why does he keep saying this? He supposedly is going to release documents "next week" that will prove it. So, I will wait until next week.
I just read an article by Morton Kondracke in the local newspaper where his health plan cost may top $3 TRILLION. That's almost as bad as the bailout plus. Where does he think this money is going to come from? THAT's the question I want answered.
All his other lofty promises, too. All will cost money. Who's going to pay? He can't tax the businesses as they are the key to jobs and, if he does that, the jobs will be gone. He can't tax the working people because, if he does that, he's backing out on his promise plus the working people can't take any more taxes.
With unemployment at such high rates and more every day, how long do you think unemployment benefits will last? Already Michigan and another state have 0 balances in their unemployment benefit chest. The governor of PA (Rendell) stated he only has enough employment benefits in the coffer to last 6 months IF there are no more people opening a claim. Without people working, they aren't paying taxes. Without tax money, the government can't provide benefits. Even SS is at risk to run out before the stated time mentioned a year or 2 ago.
So tell me, will he wave a magic wand and the money will appear? Probably, which will lower our dollar purchasing power and put us more into debt.
It's time for people to wake up. The depression is here. The reason the O read about FDR is to try and figure out what to do, but FDR didn't have a crisis such as this. This is above and beyond anything that ever happened.
Jump start the economy
Do you seriously think that jobs in alternative fuel sources will start within the next year? I think not. This was supposed to a STIMULUS bill, something that would jump start the economy...anything long term should have gone into the regular budget. No common sense, just want to look good for the cameras.
Let's jump over to reality for a minute....(sm)
What Obama is doing is rescinding the Bush bill. He's not putting out a new law that MAKES people do procedures they consider unethical. So basically if you work in the medical field and you didn't do abortions before this bill, chances are that noone is going to MAKE you do them in the future. I think Bush's bill was more targeted towards support services -- for example people who work at a pharmacy who don't believe in the morning after pill. The point I get from all this is that if you don't want to do abortions, don't work in an abortion clinic. The way you guys are describing it, I could make an orthodontist do brain surgery. Let's try reality for a while.
You have no basis in fact to jump right to the assumption...sm
that Bush and/or Cheney is to blame for this. None whatsoever.
I'll double that 'amen', and I'll raise you one!
amen
Oh. Well, they'll have to kill me before they'll censor
We'll see who'll be laughing tomorrow.
Bet it's me!
If O "fails", then you'll probably like him more cuz he'll
So when the terrorists come, you'll just say STOP or I'll say STOP again? nm
I'll be.
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We'll see...
 Again, you might want to consider a bib for the drool...
Okay I'll say it again...
I condem sexual abuse and from AR says he/she does too, but please don't generalize the whole of conservatives because of what one guy did in Washington or Oregon. That would be like me saying that all liberals are responsible for what the extreme left is doing like burning down SUV dealerships in the name of environmental protection.
I'll tell ya
I'm 25 and in college. Right before Bush got re-elected, my Composition class was discussing the state of things (we had just read a sort of anti-war book). Anyway, I was the only one (aside from my Professor) that spoke up against the war in my class. The others were so angry with me (how dare I be unpatriotic!) that I was seriously afraid people were going to jump me or something!! The same thing happened in another class around the same time. I haven't had a class discussion about it since then, but I'd be curious to see if they all feel so passionately for the war now.
yes, i'll be around!
In an uncertain world, reason should prevail. Besides, I have an axe to grind. My chemo drug runs $6,000 per month (who can afford that). I have had to fight insurance companies like a pitbull with lipstick (kak). I have watched my entire life go down the toilet due to illness and I have worked hard my whole life, paid taxes, obeyed the law, etc., and now..........I can try to at least make an impact on something that means so much to future of our country.
And I'll bet YOU don't, right? We all have
I'll bet....
you voted for BUSH both times, too!!! Now that's good judgment. Bye-Bye Now, Bye-Bye.
well you'll just have to
keep on bein' that way, I guess.
we'll never know now, will we? sm
Obama never does anything that's not according to the script or teleprompter. That's why he looked so foolish at his press conference, with all his ers and uhs. Didn't have all his talking points memorized yet.
Who could believe that?
Yea, well, if you believe that you'll believe
Government does hope this stays as quite as possible until it already happens. Poster who spoke of Kent State knows exactly what I'm talking about. POLICE STATE!
"nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them". Citizens' rights are violated every day by our police with "tasers" and other "nonlethal" things but somehow they manage to kill. One guy practically bragging about how big he is and how the taser really hurt him. We already have tasers that police use and abuse. Perhaps you would like to tell me why military needs them on our streets.
If you think it is that benign, what the h@ll do they need equipment for controlling citizens for? Just like national ID sounds benign enough to those who refuse to see it for what it is. There are lots of things that seemed benign to some while your civil rights were being thrown in the toilet and then as time went by and people become complacent, BOOM, all of a sudden you find yourself screwed over and wonder how that ever happened! It was right under your nose.
Of course, it will all seem benign enough until reasons start appearing out of nowhere as to why military need to patrol our streets
"They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control"
hello....wake up!!! We have the police "force" for that. They do a fine enough job of interfering with our civil rights, what do you think the military will do.....hand you a cupcake and milk?
All you need to do is look at history in other countries to see how this seemingly harmless environment creeped into their lives and now their children grow up with military roaming the streets, monitoring "their" every move, until it seems perfectly normal to them....except for those who never accept the fact they are being controlled and those are ones who you see being trampled by their military while they try their best to protest for their freedom from government control.
Little by little by little.......
if ya'll can do about SP
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I'll help you out here......
The Qur’an dehumanizes non-Muslims, describing them as “animals” and beasts:
Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. (98:6)
Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (8:55)
Verse 5:60 even says that Allah transformed Jews of the past into apes and pigs. Verse 2:65 continues the theme.
Verse 7:176 compares unbelievers to "panting dogs" with regard to their idiocy and worthlessness.
A hadith says that Muhammad believed rats to be "mutated Jews" (Bukhari 54:524, also confirmed by Sahih Muslim 7135 and 7136).
Verses 46:29-35 even say that unbelieving men are worse than demons who believe in Muhammad.
I'll second that
While Billy was president I could not stand him (I voted for him the first time but after 6 months was disappointed and by the end of the first year with him I loathed him and cringed anyone I saw him or his wife "the anointed one". However, with all that has happened over the past few weeks he is finally starting to make sense.
I just think the country has done such a dis-service to Hillary and voted in a man that came from nowhere (and has done nothing).
I am glad Billy is finally starting to wise up and speak the truth.
sorry-I'll try again
Year Total income Gifts to charity Federal taxes
2000 $240,726 $2,350 $63,732
2001 $275,123 $1,470 $86,072
2002 $260,824 $1,050 $68,958
2003 $238,327 $3,400 $51,856
2004 $207,647 $2,500 $40,426
2005 $1,670,995 $77,315 $545,614
2006 $991,296 $60,307 $277,431
Well, I'll say this.........
making such a big deal out of "Joe the plumber" was pretty juvenile on the part of McCain and Palin. IMHO good ole Joe was probably a republican plant paid to ask that question but then what do I know?
something you'll never see on tv
Love the "disco pants!" Of course, SP would do it in a heartbeat with a smile on her face. They'd have to put Michelle in a straight jacket. Can't you just picture it?
The libs just don't have a sense of humor like the rest of us!
And to add to this so ya'll can
get all your slams on me at once. LOL
I also believe that people should have the right to protect themselves in their homes. If someone breaks into my home, I should have a right to shoot them. In my opinion, they took a risk breaking into my house. I am not going to take the chance of them hurting me or my kids. So don't break into my house because I will shoot you and then I will rip my clothes and beat my head into a wall to make it look like I was attacked and was using self defense. LOL!
I'll ask again.
WHICH question did Joe Biden NOT answer, as you alleged?
I'll add another bet. S/M
IF McCain/Palin get in the White House, I will bet that in 2012 the Republicans will have about as good a chance at getting back in as Hermann Munster!!!
Okay, I'll tell ya
#1. He is black. Never mind he is only HALF black, there are plenty of people who won't vote for him because of the color or his skin but it isn't p.c. to say this so they p.c. and say they WILL vote for him. When they close the curtain on the voting booth, I think they'll have a change of heart and punch the button for the one who is "like them." Remember Palin said he wasn't "like us."
#2. There have been so many smears against him I really believe that many people who don't care enough to investigate for themselves, just believe it "like sheeple" and so they go down the garden path.
#3. I think there are a lot of people who forget that John McCain is only one of many service men and women who have served their country. He is no more or less honorable than any of them but McCain keeps railing on "I served my country and I have the scars to prove it." and then whining that "all I ever wanted to be is a Navy pilot." So at the end I think a lot of people will feel if they don't vote for him they will somehow dishonor "his" service to our country.
The reason I don't think the Republicans will stand a chance is that after 8 years of Bush/Cheney and 4 more years of McCain/Palin, people will vote for anyone but....and maybe that's a good time for an independent with REAL values and REAL promise of change to show up.
Now, if I'm wrong, boil up the crow, I'll be here to eat it. LOL
I'll say it again
As a Jew, I don't believe there is a soul until the first breath is taken.
But, regardless of what I believe, I don't expect everyone to agree with me. It is clear what you believe and that is fine with me. I would never try to change it. I expect the same courtesy, that people allow me to believe as a Jew, as I was raised and studied, and not try to force your beliefs on me. I don't believe anyone should be forced into having an abortion, but I also don't believe anyone should be kept from having one either.
Again, I'll say it
My husband is there. No, we did not buy the ticket. Yes, he joined BEFORE the war, but he joined the military. It is silly to think that you can join a military and never expect to go to a war. Of course that is where the military sent them. This is their job. They chose their field and most of them support it.
I'll help if I can but can you help me
I'm not sure which post you're referring to but I'll be happy to re-find it for you if I can. I don't always post links because I would hope that people would research everything they can and make the best decision they can possibly make to bring about whatever change they believe in. As I've said, I read a lot but I have made my decisions based totally on what I have heard from the candidate's own mouths. I have come to the conclusion that I will take a chance on Obama versus McCain and that is due ONLY to what I have heard from both of them. McCain's constant reference to his war record has completely turned me off. Not that I don't respect his service but so far as I know we are not voting on "war hero of the year."
And just for the record....every day I am still watching BOTH candidates speeches at their rallies. I could still change my mind in the way I intend to vote if I heard something from EITHER candidate's mouth that would sway me....and that being something of SUBSTANCE that would make me change my mind about which one I am willing to take a chance on. I will continue with that inquisitive mind until about 8 a.m. next Tuesday when I go to cast my vote.....so I guess you could call me one of the "undecided." Maybe the other "undecideds" feel the same as I do. I don't call myself "undecided" because I have made a decision and the other candidate has a couple of days to make me change my mind but I doubt he will because it will take more than railing against "that one" to change my mind.
I'll think about it lol
i'll have to take a vote! :-D
I'll second all the above! (sm)
We need more people like you. Thanks for sharing!
We'll have a few of those on here before it's over with..(sm)
My personal favorite in the video is the comparison of the eyebrows, noting that Osama's brows aren't as full as Obama's. So what do you think, did Osama take time out to wax or pluck is brows? 
So I'll take that as a yes then.
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I'll believe it when I see it..............nm
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