Bravo to another person that *gets it*. Awesome post! nm

• What does an 80% rating really mean? sm - It's what's-her-name's positions, not rat
  • She already has more executive experience than your guy... - sam
    • The only guy that made a mess is - John McWayne. sm
      • Well by all means, in the usual fairness... - sam
  • Bravo to another person that *gets it*. Awesome post! nm - Wow!
    • Oh, Bravo for the judging and bashing - before giving her a chance..pathetic. nm
      • why don't you address the issues here instead of - Hurling insults? THAT takes guts. nm
      • Right. She has even fought against - corruption within her own party. -takes guts. nm
  • PS. Forgot the part about "I don't think - About foreign policy much." addendum to above.
    • time to grow up - both sides have said things they don't mean or regret or get twisted - me
      • I am grown up...60 years. "I dont think much - about foreign policy" unnerving in post 9/11 wo
        • She was in state politics at the time, not national politics...... - sam

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And 100% accurate.  I was reading the same posts you were reading.  Anything -- and I mean ANYTHING -- they could do to obstruct, they did, just as the Congressional Republicans are doing now.

Obama has kept his word about bipartisanship and has tried to include the Republicans -- meeting with them several times -- but it's a waste of time because they're more interested in obstructing everything Obama does instead of working together with him.

It seems as if some Republican governors are at least giving Obama a chance and trying to work together with him, or at least the Republican governors who care about the citizens they govern do.  I think most people can see the pathetic tantrums thrown by Congressional Republicans for what it is.

As far as Bush, I never voted for him, but I wasn't against him, either, at first.  In fact, the day he stood in that rubble at "Ground Zero" with that megaphone, I actually began to respect him.

However, that was short lived because once I realized that he was incapable of telling the truth, I lost any trust for him that I had had.  It was his ACTIONS that made me feel that way, not his party affiliation.

The PALPABLE hatred for Obama is overwhelming on this board and has been since well before the election.

(Obama now has the same powers that Bush had.  Perhaps THAT'S the problem!)  

And from what I've read about him, it would be really hard to *Swiftboat* this guy (not that they'd let facts get in the way of their smear campaigns).  If the election were held today, he'd be my choice, as well. 

Yet another rambling session and yet....something is missing.  Oh, that's right.  What's missing is the fact that you can't back up the claim that was made.  The question was "what regulations."  Your answer thus far is seemingly...the ones that he might put in place...the onces that are in a supposed hidden agenda....the ones that only I can see....

In other words....the claim that small businesses are laying off people as a direct result of Obama legislation is nothing but BS spouted out by the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly and regurgitated by the likes of you.  Thank you for proving my point.  You know, the thing that absolutely cracks me up about this board is that when people like you are asked a direct question, 9 times out of 10 you can't provide a valid answer.  Why is that...I wonder...LOL.

Strike 3...

I think he is a litte awkward on TV, but I think it's absolutely hilarious.  However, he is absolutely dead on with the issues.  

My husband is a firefighter so we have insurance through the city (BC/BS).  That's a relief all by itself!  However, the city has gone one step further for its employees.  They provide FOR FREE a clinic where you can go for the small stuff (cuts, colds, UTIs, etc).  They also provide city employees with FREE medicine so long as they carry it.  It has to be generic, but it's such a huge help.  What this service provides us:  For me:  lipid-lowering agent, happy pills, sleeping pills, and PPI.  For my husband:  Blood pressure medication and PPI.

They did this because it is actually cheaper for them in the long run to provide this service to their employees with health maintenance drugs, thereby reducing the added cost to the insurance from people not being able to afford this medication and ending up in the hospital which in the long run increases the cost of insurance.  I just hope they can continue to do this.

Actually, the list was more a list of individuals who made contributions towards passing prop 8.  Seems silly to boycott an entire organization because one guy or gal who happens to be employed there contributed to passing prop 8.  Just goes to show you that gay right's activitists lack a certain amount of intelligence.

Your post was wonderful, articulate and right on target.

They haven't been able to bait people on their own board recently and hurl their venom, but they need their "fix," so they come here instead and try to start trouble.  I agree that you shouldn't respond to them any more.  Why give them what they want?

Thank you for such an eloquent post.

Have you ever noticed the disconnect between those who are in favor of Bush?  The richest of the rich and those who are very highly educated and then those who aren't so rich and educated, with all the rest of us in the middle.  The richest of the rich don't have to worry about Roe because if it's gone, they can afford to go to another part of the world. 

And our country absolutely does not deserve the autocratic theocratic government that has been forced upon us.  One of the wonderful things about America is diversity of religious beliefs. What really frightens me about all this is that the war on terror is quickly becoming a "Christian versus Muslim" war.  Tom Tancredo from Colorado recently suggested boming mosques.  If we choose to turn this into a religious war, we are diminishing the importance of it and diminishing our country as a whole, regardless of faith, to bond together and be united against the war on terror.

As far as the shoe being on the other foot, from what I've personally witnessed by some of these people, they feel the shoe has been on the other foot for years, that they've been ignored, and now is their turn to take control.  They typically blame minorities and women for taking all the "men's jobs," blame the "liberal mainstream media" for virtually everything, and are suddenly feeling empowered after they felt beaten down over past years of tolerance and reasonableness, when they couldn't impose their prejudices and anger and religion on the rest of the country.  It's as if a smoldering volcano has erupted, and they are spewing out all the negative things that have been keeping inside in all these years past when fairness prevailed in this country.  They don't want to be just one of many religions in this country.  They want to be the only one that counts, the one that they can write laws to revolve around.

They want to end Roe.  They are against any contraception products that go against "the will of God."  They want to control what happens in your home, in your family, in your bedroom.  They want to control what you see on television.  They want to control who you love, whether or not it's legal for you to love who you love.  They want to take science backwards in the name of "God" and prevent stem cell research that might save the lives of their parents, sisters, brothers, and/or children who are already here. They holler and scream at and actually kill those who respect a woman's right to choose. They put more value on a petrie dish full of inanimate cells than they do on people who are already born, but you never hear them even whimper a word of disdain when children in our country are being molested and murdered on what seems like a weekly basis during this year alone. They want to control when you're born and when and how you die.

In short, they want to control not just the lives but the very SOULS of every single person in this country, and they detest anyone who disagrees with them.

You're right: 51% is no mandate, and after the 2000 selection, there are still some who aren't sure that Bush actually won in 2004.  They don't even realize that Bush is really on the side of the rich and not on their side.  They continue to defend and justify every action of Bush and those in his administration, whether it's actually something that defendable or justifiable or not –- such as entering into a bogus war based on lies and/or exposing the identity of a CIA agent working on WMD (in a time of war), both done purely for personal reasons and never really caring what's best for this country.

They sqawk about a lack of morals in this country, yet they don't think it's immoral for Bush to exploit the tragedy of 9/11 in order to scare the American public into agreeing to a war that Bush came into office with the intention of waging, long before 9/11 happened.  He lied to Congress, and he lied to the American people.  That's about the most immoral thing I've ever seen a president do. I never thought a President could actually make Nixon look GOOD, but Bush has done that 1,000 times over.

IMHO, we're heading down a very dangerous road in this country, and I hope America wakes up before it's too late.

One thing that wasn't mentioned was the vile increase in gas prices, which will also result in much higher heating costs this winter for many people.  That's an increased cost experienced by most Americans, which also effectively cuts their net income.  The rich, who keep getting richer under Bush, will easily be able to absorb that cost.  As usual, it's the poor and dwindling middle class who will suffer.

I wonder how many Bushies are now living near or at the poverty level and don't even realize it, as they continue to beat the Bush drum louder and louder.

Excellent post.   I couldn't agree with you more.

I'm about to leave the computer but am glad I saw your post before I left. 

I hope you have a wonderful day. 

Great post!!!  These are exactly the same reasons I voted for him.

When I look back on how Obama ran his campaign versus how John "Chicken-With-Its-Head-Cut-Off" McCain ran his, there was no question in my mind that if Obama can run the country only 1/100th as well as he ran his campaign, then there is great hope for this wonderful country.

Great post, Cyndiee!  What Bush did for 8 years did not work.  Giving more and more to the rich only created a greedy (now ANGRY), very small group of people who became greedier and greedier, as they stole from those with less money than they (as evidenced by 401Ks now being "201Ks").

There was no "trickle-down" with these people, just an unsatiable appetite for more, more, more.

At least Obama is TRYING to address the problem of offshoring/outsourcing work (for example), and he acknowledges the fact that the middle class have progressively become more poor under the Bush administration, as the rich progressively became richer.

I saw on the news last night that Bernie Madoff (for example) feels he should be able to keep his plush penthouse apartment (including maids' quarters) and some of his millions because he transferred ownership of those items to his wife.  (Again, check your 401Ks and tell me how warm and fuzzy that makes you feel.)

This is big-time class warfare going on in this country, where the majority of us are struggling and just the top 5% are thriving.  Obama sees this.  He's TRYING to fix a situation that no human being has ever encountered on this earth in history.  This isn't just an "American depression;" it's global, and (again, referring back to the documentary "House of Cards"), most of it was caused by the UNITED STATES and the greed of our richest citizens.  It's clear that economists can't even agree on a course to fix it, but continuing to make the rich even richer didn't work for eight years under Bush, and it won't work under Obama.  So Obama is trying to do something new and "spectacular," already fully taking the blame if his plan doesn't work (something Bush never did).

I believe he is deserving of the CHANCE to make it work.  The people who voted for him are willing to give him that chance.  The whole country was forced to give Bush a "chance," and all we got was lies, arrogance, a bogus war, debt and the decline of this country.

Time for a new attitude and a new plan.

Please just give Obama a CHANCE!!!