But that's the whole McCain strategy of late! sm
Posted By: ex animo on 2008-09-14
In Reply to: allow the tax breaks for the - sissa
Keep repeating the same lies and half-truths over and over in spite of the facts, and some people will believe it. Oh, and make sure to keep people really, really afraid. That always works well for Republicans too.
Hey, it worked for George W. Bush, and here we are, 8 years later, with Karl Rove and friends at it again now, this time for McCain. "Country First"? More like "party first" and "winning first" for McCain.
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If McCain campaign strategy is so effective,
George Will –
- "McCain loses his head."
- "McCain childish, shallow, unfit for presidency."
- "McCain in a Glass House."
- "McCain flustered rookie playing in a league too high."
- Compares McCain to the ultimate drama queen (Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland) /"off with his head" mentality after McCain says that Chris Cox of the SEC should be "decapitated."
- "…McCain showed us his personality this week and made some of us fearful."
- "McCain shows he's not presidential."
- VP pick "female Sancho Panza."
Charles Krauthammer –
- McCain VP pick "near suicidal."
- "Bush Begat McCain."
- McCain's "hidden agenda: To kill the United Nations."
- McCain has "Tempted fate one time too many."
- "McCain is going down."
- "Obama will be president."
- "McCain's 100-year war."
- "How many Hail-Mary's can one man throw?"
Ross Perot –
- McCain's "classic opportunist, always reaching for attention and glory."
- Perot weighs in on the POW issue after paying for Carol McCain's medical bills following her horrible car wreck: After he came home, he walked with a limp, she [Carol McCain] walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona [Cindy McCain, his current wife] and the rest is history."
- McCain, "unusually slick and cruel."
- Cindy bails John out of gambling debts.
William/Bill Kristol –
- Time for McCain to fire his entire campaign.
- McCain campaign is "stupid, pathetic, flailing."
- "Palin represents a cancer on the Republican Party. She is not even close to being qualified for the office she's seeking."
- McCain has "derangement syndrome."
- McCain should "stop unveiling gimmicky proposals every couple of days that pretend to deal with the financial crisis."
Joe McCain (John's brother) –
- Pleading with campaign advisors to change strategy: "Let John McCain be John McCain."
- Loosening the tight (campaign) message control is needed because it has become "counter-productive" and "counter-intuitive."
- The campaign needs to make new ads that show John "not as crank and curmudgeon."
- Decision to clamp down on press contact with intimates of the Arizona senator is "causing gangrene."
Ed Rollins –
- McCain's prospects on winning the presidency have "vanished."
- "You have to go give an alternative on the economy," To do otherwise could "give the Democrats not only the White House but sweeping congressional victories and a potentially filibuster-proof super-majority in the Senate."
- Has voiced his concern over a possible Obama "landslide."
key Rove (RIP) strategy
Attack your opponents strong points. Read many posts below that ham-handedly attempt to use this tactic. Throw in a cup of "sour grapes" and NOW your cookin'. Go Ron Paul! Split the vote!
The Resentment Strategy
Can the super-rich former governor of Massachusetts - the son of a Fortune 500 C.E.O. who made a vast fortune in the leveraged-buyout business - really keep a straight face while denouncing "Eastern elites"?
Can the former mayor of New York City, a man who, as USA Today put it, "marched in gay pride parades, dressed up in drag and lived temporarily with a gay couple and their Shih Tzu" - that was between his second and third marriages - really get away with saying that Barack Obama doesn't think small towns are sufficiently "cosmopolitan"?
Can the vice-presidential candidate of a party that has controlled the White House, Congress or both for 26 of the past 28 years, a party that, Borg-like, assimilated much of the D.C. lobbying industry into itself - until Congress changed hands, high-paying lobbying jobs were reserved for loyal Republicans - really portray herself as running against the "Washington elite"?
Yes, they can.
On Tuesday, He Who Must Not Be Named - Mitt Romney mentioned him just once, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin not at all - gave a video address to the Republican National Convention. John McCain, promised President Bush, would stand up to the "angry left." That's no doubt true. But don't be fooled either by Mr. McCain's long-ago reputation as a maverick or by Ms. Palin's appealing persona: the Republican Party, now more than ever, is firmly in the hands of the angry right, which has always been much bigger, much more influential and much angrier than its counterpart on the other side.
http://www.truthout.org/article/the-resentment-strategy
For sure - I have a good strategy about it
I told DH he needs to start applying for some of that free money the O has promised everyone (DH is out of work). Seeing as he's going to be handing out welfare checks to all those who aren't working he needs to apply too. Then maybe the extra money I have to pay out will at least come back in.
but you think Obama's strategy is sm
going to get an "honest" answer out of these prisoners? You are so naive. He has change alright! Change that is putting this country down the tubes. If he had any "wisdom" he wouldn't be trying to talk to a bunch of infidels whom you cannot reason with. We are talking about a bunch of crazies who are willing to give us their lives for 72 non-existent virgins. Come onnnnn!
I am not posting to you anymore because you are like the rest of the O cheerleaders, you can't be reasoned with. You need to take off the blinders.
What problem do you have with an exit strategy out of Iraq...sm
If you have such love and respect for the troops why don't you want to see them out of Iraq, which by the way liberating that country, which by the way is on the brink of civil war, which by the way violence has increased threefold since the beginning of the war?????
Please make me understand why YOU guys in all of your rightousness want the troops to remain in Iraq?
Democrat strategy poll...see question
For the upcoming elections both this year and 08, do you think democrats should
(a) aggressively lay out their agenda, which includes backing of security recommendations of the Sept. 11 Commission, a pay-as-you-go budgeting plan to end deficit spending and for deeper restrictions on lobbying activities.
OR
(b) Wait and allow the republicans party finish demonstrating their failures, i.e., rising gas prices, war policies, etc.
I was reading the article below and thought I'd ask the liberals for their point of view.
Obama's economic crisis strategy...
Vote for the bailout....and nothing else. Zip, zilch, nada. Oh, except echo Harry Reid, and I quote: "Nobody knows what to do about this." Well, no **** Sherlock. And STILL doesn't know. Not a clue. All he can say is middle class tax cuts and watch the thrills run up peoples' legs. Would be funny if it weren't so.....
I am posting in a forum, not employing a strategy.
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They bring out a good point about the strategy being used in Iraq. sm
The more I think about it, I think Bush is trying to keep it cool (keep casualties down) until he gets closer to his last days, then maybe he plans to let them have it. All of this tip toeing around the terrorist is not going to work. They are not going to fight fair. They are taking classes on how to make more powerful bombs without being detected - like the one that killed the 14 US troops this week.
They're stepping up their game and we have to step ours up. I think the drawback from doing this is that it will mean more US troop casualties and more Iraqi civilian deaths, and this administration knows that will cause them a backlash they don't have the balls to sustain.
Murtha's predictions on the Republican exit strategy.
I'm past convinced but time will tell just how politically motivated *Iraqi freedom* is to this administration. How much you want to bet nobody gets it?
I agree with Murtha, now that we have relieved Iraq of the Saddam regime the mission sould be getting our soldiers home safely. But its not that easy with the new wave of terrorism that replaced Saddam's regime as a result of the war.
I still say though we have our own battles to fight at home and need to accelerate training what Iraqi men are willing to fight for democracy and do what we can to restore their infrastructure and get out. With the right enthusiasm (or upcoming congress elections) it can be done. ~Democrat
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Murtha Details His Exit Strategy
Jan. 13, 2006
CBS) Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., believes the vast majority of U.S. troops in Iraq will be out by the end of the year and maybe even sooner. In his boldest words yet on the subject, the outspoken critic of the war predicts the withdrawal and tells 60 Minutes correspondent Mike Wallace why he thinks the Bush administration will do it
“I think the vast majority will be out by the end of the year and I’m hopeful it will be sooner than that,” Murtha tells Wallace, this Sunday, Jan. 15, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.
“You’re going to see a plan for withdrawal,” says Murtha. He believes Congress will pass it because of mounting pressure from constituents tired of the war that could affect the upcoming midterm elections.
The political situation will force President Bush to accede to Congress, he says. “I think the political people who give [the president] advice will say to him, ‘You don’t want a democratic Congress. You want to keep a Republican majority, and the only way you’re going to keep it is by reducing substantially the troops in Iraq,’” Murtha says.
The president has said publicly that any decision regarding Iraq would be based on the situation there and not on Washington politics.
Murtha rejects the president’s argument that the war on terror is being fought in Iraq. “The insurgents are Iraqis – 93 percent of the insurgents are Iraqis. A very small percentage are foreign fighters….Once we’re out of there, [Iraqis] will eliminate [foreign fighters],” says Murtha.
“[President Bush] is trying to fight this war with rhetoric. Iraq is not where the center of terrorism is,” he says. “We’re inciting terrorism there....We’re destabilizing the area by being over there because we’re the targets,” Murtha says.
When Wallace challenges him by saying, “General Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, says your comments are damaging recruiting and hurting the troops,” Murtha responds by saying it’s the military’s own fault. “[Troops] are rotated [into Iraq] four and five times. They have no clear mission,” says Murtha. “One of the problems they have with recruitment is [that] they continually say how well things are going and the troops on the ground know better.”
President Bush has said there are only two choices in Iraq: victory and defeat. And he has implied that Murtha is a defeatist. Murtha, of course, disputes that.
There have been 13 servicemen from his Congressional district killed in Iraq. Could the families of those dead be offended? Wallace asks.
“Well, I hope [those families] understand,” says the Vietnam combat veteran. “It’s my job, my responsibility, to speak out when I disagree with the policy of the president of the United States,” says Murtha. “All of us want this president to succeed…I feel a mission here, with my experience, that I have to help the president find a way out of this thing.”
Declare war on the media. Brilliant campaign strategy.
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Insults do not an effective campaign strategy make.
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Too little, too late ?????
I was clarifying my position. Are you not the one who **doesn't need a mother spouting moral holier-than-thou sermons** and the one who is **sick of it.** Telling me too little to late, you can't backpeddle now, the damage is done!!! Are you serious??? What damage, to whom, what backpeddling??. If you are reading my post as an apology you are mistaken. It was just clarification to Observer's post where she said she did not understand why I thought the president should not be there...and I answered her that was not what I meant.
I know it's too late now
But does anyone else look at these two candidates for president and think, This is it? The best the United States has to offer?
For that matter, I thought the same thing before the primaries. I don't know if any of these yahoos has what it takes.
It's sad, really.
I think it is too late
to save him. His choice of her shows impulsivity and pandering. People are aware of these characteristics now. Sarah will contribute to his defeat at the hands of the voters, but she is not responsible for it.
Also, too little, too late . . .
there is absolutely no sincerity in McCain's efforts to now try to undo the damage he has done. He is so insincere that his own supporters don't believe him now. He is the one that encouraged this mob fervor in the first place and now he had literally created monstors!
Sorry so late.
No they don't supply BK, at least not at this time.
It's a little late in the game, isn't it?
It's late...never mind nm
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At this point, I think it is too late.
They WILL steal the election, but I am voting for McCain anyway. Absolutely disgraceful what is going on.
Late term...(sm)
If the infant is able to survive outside the womb, then it would fall on the physician to do whatever possible to save that life (even if that includes refusing to do an abortion), just like any other. I don't think you'll find too many docs who will actually do abortions that late because it's increasingly dangerous for the mother. I think most clinics only go up to about 15 or 16 weeks anyway. I do think that if you are going to have an abortion it should be done in a timely manner anyway for the mother's health. I also believe that if the mother's life is in danger from the pregnancy, a late-term abortion may be necessary. And then there's the money. I wonder how many people have to opt for late-term abortions because it takes them that long to get the money for the abortion. Yet another reason to add in abortion to family planning services.
This was in the late 70s early 80s
As far as I know, none of my friends slept with these students. One of the guys used to come up to our hometown and spend the night and never ever acted like he was interested in "conquering" my friend or I. We were all just friends. maybe the times were different?
Keep your hate - you are much too late
http://www.bornagainamerican.org/
Am I too late to vote?? AGAINST!!!
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This is a little late, but here is my opinion
Gore is a sore loser and should keep his mouth shut. He is still bitter over losing the election and every time he opens his mouth it shows. He was worthless as VP and even more worthless now. His whole life is based on lies he creates thinking everyone is so stupid they will believe him. Nothing he has to say is of any significance and if he crawled back into the hole he crawled out of the world would be a better place.
Gore has no right to criticize anything anyone has to say.
He talks about policies being un-American? What I consider un-American is putting out the lies about global warming, while he rides around with his enterage (sp?) of limos, SUVs, and planes. And is trying to bank off of this farce he is creating, and just so happens the companies that you buy (or whatever it is you do) with the carbon credits...he gains financially from.
I'm certainly no Cheney fan, but Gore critizing him???? I wish Mr. Hore would just go away.
Probably a little too late........ but have a great vac, ! nm
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A day late and a dollar short......
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too late, Bush has already taken care of that
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I think it is way too late now to make a change...sm
I think that McCain was not allowed to pick who he wanted to be his running mate and pressured by the extreme right wing of the republican party to choose her, most likely men thinking that her choice would win over democrat and independent women. Big mistake. I think if he was still the old John McCain, he probably could have gotten Colin Powell as his running mate. I hope Obama appoints him to secretary of defense or secretary of state in his administration.
It's getting late and the lack of information
way more time than I have at the moment to address. Obama spent much time in Kenya in an OFFICIAL capacity....sent there while serving on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I will be expanding on this tomorrow and look forward to the slam dunk that a few tiny facts will exact on this trash you are trying to peddle.
My late husband is buried
next to a plot where unborn fetuses (is that the plural????) are born. Very sad. Those parents keep flowers on the little graves. Obviously those were unborn children who were wanted by their parents.
Last I heard late last night was
Supposedly car companies are just "burning" up money each month. We need more economic and fuel efficient cars NOW, but car companies are saying it will take 2 years. Car companies as of right now do not have enough money for the end of this quarter and money will be dried up. No purchasing cars through lenders and so on. Pelosi and her crew do not know what do. If car companies are bailed out now, they will probably have to be bailed out again and again for the next 2 years. If Pelosi allows to keep bailing out the car companies, next will be the airlines and so on. Pelosi might decide to just let car companies bankrupt. That will be hundreds of thousands of jobs gone along with lawyers, human resources, paper product companies, and everything related to car companies. Sounds like we are heading for The Great Depression. This was all on CNMBC news late last night. I AM NOT FOR DOOM AND GLOOM, but I do look at facts and not through rose colored glasses. It is utter chaos. I personally hope car companies do get bailed out. I have never owned a foreign made car. But if we bail them out, that means airlines next and so on. That will come from us or added onto the deficit.
Kendra, sorry. It's late for me and I was being a little sarcastic.
I apologize. I know what you meant. Didn't mean it, really. Forgive me?
Late Night Politics
I don't really think that Leno is conservative. He's a good friend of the Arnold the Governator, but I think that it is more on a personal level than political. Keep in mind, also, that these guys have teams of writers so while they approve the joke, they don't necessarily represent solely their opinion, and anybody who thinks that Leno's humor is conservative, clearly missed the last 8 years of Bush jokes and the Dan Quayle jokes that still pop up.
I had not watched Letterman when he was in the time slot following Carson, but when he first went to CBS, I used to. However, his 'humor' got to be where it just seemed very mean-spirited, and while it had a certain shock value to it and was maybe funny the first time in an adolescent kind of way, it wasn't long before I couldn't stomach it anymore and made the switch to Leno, where I had stayed. Conan has his moments and is probably the least political of the 3, but while not mean-spirited, his humor does sometimes come across as very juvenile, pull-my-finger type stuff (although he does some skits about his Taurus that had me rolling on the floor).
Political humor at the expense of the kids has been around for a while, but fortunately is rarely brought out. If I recall correctly, Chelsea Clinton took some pretty big hits, and there may have even been a few Amy Carter jokes (but that's a little further back than I can trust my memory). If I also recall correctly, Saturday Night Live was where a lot of the early political child barbs came from. I think Bristol Palin has put herself out there in the public eye so I'm not opposed to her getting a few shots, but Letterman's were in exceedingly poor taste. Then again, Letterman has been endorsed by Howard Stern, so I guess the crudeness comes as no surprise.
Excellent post!!!! - sorry I'm a little late saying so.
Just read it. Thanks for the reply.
You're a little late to the party...(sm)
I do believe the dicussion is already over.
These late night political events
are just killing me. I keep staying up to watch and then I stay up later to hear the media discuss everything. Why must this stuff be so addicting? I know I should just go to bed because it will be repeated 1,000 times the next day......but I can't help myself. I'm going to go hook up my coffee IV to keep me awake this morning.
Getting late. Change name line to read
see message in above post.
It's gettin' kinda late, but you got me LMAO.
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I post late at night, and count the NEXT day as #1)
Only one problem. This happened in late December
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European nations waking up all too late.....we seem
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You're a little late worrying about the reporters...
They were found guilty on June 8.
"US President Barack Obama has said he is "deeply concerned" by North Korea's reported sentencing of two US journalists to 12 years' hard labour.
The US was working through all channels to secure their release, a spokesman for Mr Obama said.
The journalists, Euna Lee and Laura Ling, were found guilty of "hostile acts" and illegal entry into North Korea, state media reported."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8089290.stm
Oldtimer, it is used in late-term abortions. To get rid of babies.
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Why are you McCain people so desperate? You are just like McCain. No plan. Just criticism of the
other candidate. I guess you want the same old thing we have had for the past 8 years. God forbid McCain win with that wild woman, Palin.
Call me what you want, just don't call me late for dinner. LOL....
GP, I like your sense of humor.
McCain
Not only will he refuse to get out of Iraq unless there is some sort of clear victory, even if it takes "100 years" or "1000 years" (his words), jokes about how to handle Iran is "Bom, bom, bom, bom, bomb Iran" (to the tune of a Beach Boys song), he also wants to kick Russia out of the G8 and not let China or India in. Way to place nice with the up-and-coming superpowers - I'm sure that will do great things for our country in years to come.
There are certain things I like about him (strict belief in Geneva Convention, willing to work across party lines), but his warmongering side scares the you-know-what out of me.
McCain's age
Whether his military uniform helps his image depends on what kind of world we want to be living in tomorrow, not the one we live in now. A lot of people will be showing up at the polls to say that status quo is not acceptable, especially when it comes to solving problems by waging wars. Concerns over his age, senility and/or Alzheimer’s are legitimate if you do the math. Those possibilities are very real and could just as easily happen early in his term as later. He has shown some early signs like his problems with word retrieval, mispronunciation, confusion, forgetting what he is saying and blank staring spells.
The teleprompter comment is also kind of a cheap shot. Besides that, it is not true, unless you believe everything you hear on Fox or YouTube. He is an excellent orator and delivered very spontaneous and inspiring responses in the town hall meetings during the primaries and in news conferences. YHe is a much better speaker than McCain.
McCain....you mean
I can't believe anyone would vote for him after what Bush just did to us for 8 years.
Well, McCain's gas in his car came from
oil from a country that supports terrorism. McCain a supporter of terrorism? You can interpret this any way you like.
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