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Posted By: m on 2008-11-08
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    Please enlighten me...

    I say all life is sacred or no life is sacred, no exceptions. You say ** it works for you but not for me and everyone knows it.** You will excuse my reference to Darwinism here but there IS a missing link.  I also believe that all deaths matter, or no death matters at all.


    What I am trying to say is every life, no matter when you believe it begins or ends, is sacred, EVERY life, that includes every living breathing person on this planet, even those you really really really don't like or those who have created heinous crimes. All life is sacred or no life is sacred, no exceptions. God, not you or me or W is the real decider.


    Now, please advise how did you get from my  simple statement the idea that this **won't work for me and everybody knows it.**


    Enlighten....
    It is simple. What I meant is, it is a war of words, and how you read it and how I read it are two different things. Either all life is sacred or none is sacred, but you qualify that with life, no matter where you say it begins or ends. We separate right there, and will never agree. The quote is qualified...meaning, all life is sacred or none is sacred does not work for you unqualified. You said: *What I am trying to say is every life, no matter when you believe it begins or ends, is sacred, EVERY life, that includes every living breathing person on this planet, even those you really really really don't like or those who have created heinous crimes.* I agree with that, but substitute life with soul. I do believe every soul is sacred and the same in God's eyes, no matter what the person in their humanity has done. I certainly believe that a man convicted and sitting on death row for unimaginable crimes, should he repent and accept what God offers, his soul should be in Heaven right along with every other soul in Heaven. That, however, not absolve him of crimes committed in his humanity for which he has to atone in his humanity, according to the laws of the land (as the Bible states), be that imprisonment or execution. If we do not like the laws of the land, then we need to change them the way we change any laws, through our representative lawmakers. However, in order for that to work, we need to make sure judges stop legislating from the bench. That is WRONG.
    I don't. Enlighten me. nm
    .
    Enlighten me please
    Just what is it that you're "trying to get through" to me?
    Please enlighten me since you

    obviously know everything....how many detainees have been through Gitmo and how many have been "tortured." 


    Sounds to me like you have no sympathy for those people who were killed execution style by a former Gitmo detainee.  All you do is consistently show sympathy for terrorists.  Or is it just the fact that the people killed were Christians and so you don't care since you have obvious hate and disdain for anything associated with God.


    Bush made mistakes and if you have your way...him and Cheney will be swinging from the nearest tree in no time. 


    However, how can you be so blind as to allow Obama to hurry up and close Gitmo with no place for the detainees?  Do you want them all released?  Do you want them sent back where they came from so they can start up killing Americans again?  Or how about we put them in our own prison systems so they can recruit within our own country and then later be released here in our own country?


    It seems to me that you seem to forgive them killing thousands of Americans in an act of terrorrism and yet you keep harping on harsh interrogations like that is worse than murdering thousands of Americans.  How sad you are!


    Maybe you should enlighten yourself....
    actually be taught properly, there would be such an uprising in this country, it would put the civil rights uprising to shame!

    His website is where the parents go to get homework info, children's grades, etc., and he actually lets them know EXACTLY what is going on in the classroom.... isn't it strange all the parents really like him? Always that one pathetic lost soul who just wants to find problems to gripe about where there are none...


    Please enlighten me as to what it means.
    Considering we will never leave Iraq if Bush plans on placing a permanent military base there.
    Nope, Enlighten me.
    I could be an Obama supporter, for all you know.
    Please enlighten us. Elaborate on just how
    present some logical argument that addresses just what Obama has to gain from race card politics.
    Perhaps you should enlighten us on precisely
    x
    Please enlighten me with your wisdom.

    How do you handle this then?  Terrorists who want us dead and will do anything to accomplish that.  How do you deal with them?  What is the source?  Do we all convert to their religion?  What?  I'm curious as to what your solution is for this mess.


    I still would like to see Obama go after the CEOs of these big  corporations and banks the pocketed loads of money and walked away from a failing business.  Why aren't they being investigated and tried for what they have done?  Instead of we going after the past administration even though dems knew what was going on.


    As for your information about Mohammed giving info until the harsh interrogations.....there are two sides to this story and until everything is released and looked into, all you go by is what MSNBC says and the rest of us go by facts.


    Nancy Pelosi and other dems were brief on these interrogations and they did NOTHING.  The government has only allowed part of the information to be unclassified.  There is still other information out there that they have not brought to light and seem to be not wanting to bring to light.  Wonder why....hmmmm.


    The reason behind terrorist attacks is because they are Muslim extremists who believe their religion has called them to rid the world of people who aren't Muslim.  No tea and cookies and friendly talks is EVER going to change that. 


    Yes, please enlighten us, because as far as all the credible economists on.....sm
    CNBC and even the international market watch on BBC, what JTBB just outlined is EXACTLY the scenario that is currently occuring right now under your own nose, they took the first bail-out money that Bush proposed, and bloated up their own assets on the marketk, in order to keep their stocks from imploding, instead of extending credit to worthy/needy businesses and homeowners. The banks have been the biggest LEACHES sucking everything out of our present economy, the most ravenous pigs going. Remember those golden parachutes?? remember those corporate jets and lavish conventions with the tax money bail out?? DID YOU PAY ATTENTION?
    Yes, please enlighten us, because as far as all the credible economists on.....sm
    CNBC and even the international market watch on BBC, what JTBB just outlined is EXACTLY the scenario that is currently occuring right now under your own nose, they took the first bail-out money that Bush proposed, and bloated up their own assets on the marketk, in order to keep their stocks from imploding, instead of extending credit to worthy/needy businesses and homeowners. The banks have been the biggest LEACHES sucking everything out of our present economy, the most ravenous pigs going. Remember those golden parachutes?? remember those corporate jets and lavish conventions with the tax money bail out?? DID YOU PAY ATTENTION?
    Yes, please enlighten us, because as far as all the credible economists on.....sm
    CNBC and even the international market watch on BBC, what JTBB just outlined is EXACTLY the scenario that is currently occuring right now under your own nose, they took the first bail-out money that Bush proposed, and bloated up their own assets on the marketk, in order to keep their stocks from imploding, instead of extending credit to worthy/needy businesses and homeowners. The banks have been the biggest LEACHES sucking everything out of our present economy, the most ravenous pigs going. Remember those golden parachutes?? remember those corporate jets and lavish conventions with the tax money bail out?? DID YOU PAY ATTENTION?
    Perhaps you could enlighten us on the economic crisis suffered by
    There is nothing in your chart or context that convincingly explains away the $559 billion dollar surplus Clinton left behind when his term came to an end.

    Having said that, most Americans will agree that, when compared to the past 8 years, the middle class enjoyed a prosperous decade in the 90s. I was able to pay off my condo, so it has been foreclosure-proof under W.
    When you have a bipartisan version of the bill to view...please enlighten us. nm
    x
    who could possibly care? War, financial ruin, health care needs.

    nm


     


    So enlighten us, I love to learn, the past 8 years were a hard lesson indeed.....nm
    nm
    Well, I care. I also care about the constitution.nm
    nm
    I don't really care. sm
    It just seems it has been carried on long enough.  I would rather just debate.  It sounds more like a grudge, but as I said, just my 2 cents. 
    I don't really care!!! SM
    All of you all need to stay over here and try and find some topics to discuss like is happening tonight. 
    Do you think I care what you think of me? sm

    Get over yourself.  Grow up.  Learn how to behave on an adult chat board.  Stop lying. You are such a liar.  I mean, lying all over the place.  It's really terrible. You need help.


     


    How does it feel?


    I don't care about that. sm
    That is insignificant to what is going on in the world right now.
    I don't care either
    Just pointing out what a fool you are making of yourself in talking about things you have absolutely no clue about, but if it's a fool you want to be so be it. At least you're a good source of laughs for those of us living in reality.

    Liberal church--that's an oxymoron isn't it?

    Man, that was very Coulter of me.


    And I care...not! nm
    x
    why do you even care?

    Would you prefer to punish the child she is carrying by offering no prenatal care?  Would you sleep better if that woman went back to Mexico where her baby will receive no care at all?  Did you ever stop to think that someone in your family was once an immigrant?  Illegals don't pay taxes?  If they work, they have taxes taken out of of their check and that is free money to the government that they are not eligible to ever collect once they are old. 


    Republicans are going to want to keep the illegals here to benefit big business (cheap labor) and democrats are going to want to help them, so either way, nothing will be done.  


    Why do I care?
    You know why I care? Because me along with my husband work our a**** off to make it. When I got accidentally pregnant at the age of 20 and had no ins. do you think Medicaid paid for me to have my baby? NO!! I didn't qualify because my husband made too much and believe me you don't have to make much to make TOO much. Well we worked our asses off and took on the responsibility for what had happened and paid for our baby. Nobody GAVE me nothing! And I am a citizen here. She does nothing but milks the system. And no taxes are not held out of her check where she works. I guess it is called contract labor. I don't know. She is ILLEGAL! Why hasn't she been shipped back to MEXICO? Our country is having to close hospitals because of people like HER!! That is why I care. Our country is going to h*** in a hurry. And it is people like you who say well what about prenatal care for the poor little illegal Mexican? If I hadn't had the money to pay for my prenatal care, guess what? I wouldn't have had any. It is not our country's responsibility to take care of every 3rd world person who comes over here for their handout. We have American citizens who can't even get benefits when truth be known some do need them. They can't get them but you let a d*** illegal Mexican stroll up in there and the world stops to kiss their a**. Hundreds of years ago someone in my family was an immigrant but they didn't sneak and scam to get what they had. They worked and did it the right way.
    Cheap labor? What do you mean cheap labor?? These illegals come over here and they don't want our cheap jobs, they want the good ones Americans need. Makes my blood boil!

    I should care what you think?
    Not in the slightest. I don't care that you think I'm ignorant and I don't care if you don't like my posts.
    Then why do you think any of us care what
    ?
    I don't care what you think....sm
    But some intelligent posters (on both sides) do care what the military on the ground, over in Iraq and Afgahanistan, how they truly think and feel.

    Not just what the media feeds you.

    I care what the troops on the ground, themselves, think and feel.


    And let me say again...No....I don't care what you think, as obviously you don't think much at all. All you do is attack.

    Kaydie was right. All that a couple of you of you dems on this do is attack, attack, attack....what children you are.


    still don't care
    just because she is on the committee of anything, doesn't make her opinion any better than mine.
    I care very much for how this came to be. sm
    To be able to fix this, we need to understand where it started, who started it, who continued it, who tried to fix it but were stopped (I think it was 12 times Bush tried to pass legislation to help, and dems shot him down each time...but no, we don't hear about that, do we), it's important which candidates now had a hand in it, which ones still do, which ones are blaming the wrong people.

    It goes on and on.

    Give me Republican names that contributed to this, and I will condemn them just as much. Give me Republican names of CEOs and fat cats on Wall Street who perpetuated this fraud, and I care if they did.


    The truth is, there are a few Republicans that stood in the way, as well, but the dems far outweigh them, and when they had many, many changes to fix this before it occurred, they did nothing to help it.

    And just today, the main players in this mess, Sen. Dodd et al., pontificate and blast everyone but themselves in a Senate haring, when they are the very ones, on the very committees and oversight, that did next to nothing, except line their own pockets.

    That to me, is a disgrace, and disgusting.


    Yes, I care very, very much about who did this, and how it happened. It matters.



    And the only thing that will be remembered, is that it happened under Bush, and he will be blamed for all of it.


    The dems will be given a free pass, yet again.





    And we care what you think?
    I care what everybody thinks, that's how I learn. Unfortunately, I think your thinking is wrong, nothing wrong with disagreeing. Obama needs to be honest about his past, his entire past, and everything he has had his hands in. Something is not right with him.
    whatever you say. i could care less what you think.

    I know what I know, and that's good enough for me.  I do get tired of the race card being dropped constantly.  I'm Italian, & my kin were treated horribly for many years.  I never heard them crying "racism." 


    My closest girlfriend is a Jew, and she says Obama is anti-semetic.  I believe it, too.  But she doesn't go around crying in her milk.  It is what it is.  Check out frontpagemag.com.  David Horowitz has been treated horribly, esp. since he went from being D to R.


    Get over it, already.


    Sam, try as you may, they don't care.
    I have posted almost ver batim what you just posted and they never have anything to say back. They just start going on about Palin this and Palin that or some ridiculous stuff they just heard on their TV.

    They just don't get that Obama will run what businesses we have overseas, which is where he really wants them. That way he will have government run businesses and can take over everything for us, the poor little citizens. They don't get that the average businesses will go under, including the very ones who employ their family members because they will not be able to afford all the MANDATES and policies Obama will stuff down their throat. They will lay off people by the thousands and the unemployment rate will soar, but they just don't get it.

    They hear "free money" and they actually believe all that money will come from BIG businesses, those RICH HORRIBLE BUSINESSES that employ everyone. Those businesses will go overseas to where they don't pay high taxes or the ones that do stay will just pass on their higher taxes to us, who in essence will be paying the taxes for them.

    They just don't get it!
    I don't really care
    if he is from Mars, he is wrong for this country wherever he is from
    I really don't care how many or how much -
    I do not want to spend my money helping somebody else sit on their butt, while I am sitting on mine trying my darndest to make a living and barely getting by - I am tired of bailing out everybody because they did not make good decisions!

    The only bad decision I made was to become a transcriptionist. While my job is going downhill, I am going to school to be able to do something else and not sitting on my butt for 2 or more years drawing a check for doing nothing - I am taking care of myself. Those auto workers can do the same darn thing!!!

    I don't have enough money to keep giving to other people to get by - I need it myself!
    I don't care if its before or after
    Since its a little late in the game (he should have been impeached a long time ago) I don't care if he is impeached now or if he is arrested for war crimes after he leaves office. The boy needs to go to jail and pay for what he did. But you are right, there are more pressing issues on our plate.

    Bill Clinton was impeached. He truly truly deserved to be impeached. He lied to the American people (forget the Lewinski issue - I could care less about her). He lied to us. Sat there in front of the camera and lied. And he lied to the congress. Lied under oath. How can you trust a leader or commander in chief who lies?

    As for the dems not holding grudges. You are lumping them all into one category. Some don't hold grudges and others do. Just like conservatives. Some hold grudges and some don't. It's not right to praise one group and say they are all angels while people demonize everyone on the other side (both sides do this).

    I think if in the future children are asked to write a paper listing all the reasons Bush qualified for impeachment, they better start at the beginning of the term because its going to take the whole term to finish the paper. However, hopefully their paper will be titled "Why Bush should have been impeached but jailed instead after leaving office".
    I care. If he gets away with it, then let's just have
    his sons then run for President of the US.  Heck, let's just have everyone run for President of the US.
    I do care, BUT..
    It doesn't seem logical to me that he could have come as far as he has in the political process if his origin of birth was truly in question. The abstract I saw of his BC on the Internet didn't look particularly official, but it hardly proves anything one way or the other.

    I agree that SOMEONE would have brought the truth to light a long time ago if there was any question of his being legally eligible to become prez.

    I think we're grasping at straws here.

    I Care
    I care because Bristol Palin and the baby daddy were used as props by the GOP and the McCain campaign, and that makes them fair game. They lied about their getting married, and I'm just waiting to see what else they lied about.
    What you should care about,,,
    Instead of crucifying a teenage girl for making a mistake thousands of other teenage girls make every year, why don't you spend a little time finding out what lies Obama spread on the campaign trail like so many truckloads of manure?

    Or are you more interested in tabloid fodder than truth?

    Yeah. I thought so.
    He does not have to care
    He was never in the military and has no experience, unlike Bush and McCain.
    Do you really think they care?
    It is not like losing you as an investor is going to matter one iota to anyone on Wall Street.
    I don't care who you are
    the brown envelope post was funny!  Lighten up!
    I could care less what either of them look like...(sm)
    But I do think that Hillary is doing an awesome job as Sec of State!!
    Not that they care...
    ....'We keep you alive to row this ship.  So row well, and live.'  (Roman general on the galley to Heston in Ben Hur.)
    For those that care..........

    Thank goodness for Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) who wants to add an amendment to the constitution to protect parents' rights.    If you understand what Obama wants for your children, then you better listen up folks!  This is a doozy!  Obama now thinks the United Nations should decide what "rights" your child has, not the parents' rights over their child, but the child.....  oh yea, for those that are wondering, Obama has already said he thinks it's a great idea that the UN should have the right to interfere in our "sovereign" country's rights to tell us how to raise our children.


    For all those that think Obama is wonderful, you think the United Nations should tell you how to "not" take care of your child?  And for you that care, Obama thinks it is "embarrassing" that we have not jumped on that bandwagon yet and of course, "he" will "review this", which means your rights as a parent will be gone.   The United Nations will decide for you how to raise your child.  


    And tell me why should I care?
    Not something that affects me.
    so what do you care?
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    why would you care?
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