Nope, Enlighten me.
Posted By: Sonic on 2008-10-22
In Reply to: Those ones! - HaHaHa
I could be an Obama supporter, for all you know.
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Please enlighten me...
I say all life is sacred or no life is sacred, no exceptions. You say ** it works for you but not for me and everyone knows it.** You will excuse my reference to Darwinism here but there IS a missing link. I also believe that all deaths matter, or no death matters at all.
What I am trying to say is every life, no matter when you believe it begins or ends, is sacred, EVERY life, that includes every living breathing person on this planet, even those you really really really don't like or those who have created heinous crimes. All life is sacred or no life is sacred, no exceptions. God, not you or me or W is the real decider.
Now, please advise how did you get from my simple statement the idea that this **won't work for me and everybody knows it.**
Enlighten....
It is simple. What I meant is, it is a war of words, and how you read it and how I read it are two different things. Either all life is sacred or none is sacred, but you qualify that with life, no matter where you say it begins or ends. We separate right there, and will never agree. The quote is qualified...meaning, all life is sacred or none is sacred does not work for you unqualified. You said: *What I am trying to say is every life, no matter when you believe it begins or ends, is sacred, EVERY life, that includes every living breathing person on this planet, even those you really really really don't like or those who have created heinous crimes.* I agree with that, but substitute life with soul. I do believe every soul is sacred and the same in God's eyes, no matter what the person in their humanity has done. I certainly believe that a man convicted and sitting on death row for unimaginable crimes, should he repent and accept what God offers, his soul should be in Heaven right along with every other soul in Heaven. That, however, not absolve him of crimes committed in his humanity for which he has to atone in his humanity, according to the laws of the land (as the Bible states), be that imprisonment or execution. If we do not like the laws of the land, then we need to change them the way we change any laws, through our representative lawmakers. However, in order for that to work, we need to make sure judges stop legislating from the bench. That is WRONG.
I don't. Enlighten me. nm
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Enlighten me please
Just what is it that you're "trying to get through" to me?
Please enlighten me since you
obviously know everything....how many detainees have been through Gitmo and how many have been "tortured."
Sounds to me like you have no sympathy for those people who were killed execution style by a former Gitmo detainee. All you do is consistently show sympathy for terrorists. Or is it just the fact that the people killed were Christians and so you don't care since you have obvious hate and disdain for anything associated with God.
Bush made mistakes and if you have your way...him and Cheney will be swinging from the nearest tree in no time.
However, how can you be so blind as to allow Obama to hurry up and close Gitmo with no place for the detainees? Do you want them all released? Do you want them sent back where they came from so they can start up killing Americans again? Or how about we put them in our own prison systems so they can recruit within our own country and then later be released here in our own country?
It seems to me that you seem to forgive them killing thousands of Americans in an act of terrorrism and yet you keep harping on harsh interrogations like that is worse than murdering thousands of Americans. How sad you are!
Maybe you should enlighten yourself....
actually be taught properly, there would be such an uprising in this country, it would put the civil rights uprising to shame!
His website is where the parents go to get homework info, children's grades, etc., and he actually lets them know EXACTLY what is going on in the classroom.... isn't it strange all the parents really like him? Always that one pathetic lost soul who just wants to find problems to gripe about where there are none...
Please enlighten me as to what it means.
Considering we will never leave Iraq if Bush plans on placing a permanent military base there.
Please enlighten us. Elaborate on just how
present some logical argument that addresses just what Obama has to gain from race card politics.
Care to enlighten me? sm
Webmedx has always said that they are 100% American owned and operated. If you have proof to the contrary, please present it.
Perhaps you should enlighten us on precisely
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Please enlighten me with your wisdom.
How do you handle this then? Terrorists who want us dead and will do anything to accomplish that. How do you deal with them? What is the source? Do we all convert to their religion? What? I'm curious as to what your solution is for this mess.
I still would like to see Obama go after the CEOs of these big corporations and banks the pocketed loads of money and walked away from a failing business. Why aren't they being investigated and tried for what they have done? Instead of we going after the past administration even though dems knew what was going on.
As for your information about Mohammed giving info until the harsh interrogations.....there are two sides to this story and until everything is released and looked into, all you go by is what MSNBC says and the rest of us go by facts.
Nancy Pelosi and other dems were brief on these interrogations and they did NOTHING. The government has only allowed part of the information to be unclassified. There is still other information out there that they have not brought to light and seem to be not wanting to bring to light. Wonder why....hmmmm.
The reason behind terrorist attacks is because they are Muslim extremists who believe their religion has called them to rid the world of people who aren't Muslim. No tea and cookies and friendly talks is EVER going to change that.
Yes, please enlighten us, because as far as all the credible economists on.....sm
CNBC and even the international market watch on BBC, what JTBB just outlined is EXACTLY the scenario that is currently occuring right now under your own nose, they took the first bail-out money that Bush proposed, and bloated up their own assets on the marketk, in order to keep their stocks from imploding, instead of extending credit to worthy/needy businesses and homeowners. The banks have been the biggest LEACHES sucking everything out of our present economy, the most ravenous pigs going. Remember those golden parachutes?? remember those corporate jets and lavish conventions with the tax money bail out?? DID YOU PAY ATTENTION?
Yes, please enlighten us, because as far as all the credible economists on.....sm
CNBC and even the international market watch on BBC, what JTBB just outlined is EXACTLY the scenario that is currently occuring right now under your own nose, they took the first bail-out money that Bush proposed, and bloated up their own assets on the marketk, in order to keep their stocks from imploding, instead of extending credit to worthy/needy businesses and homeowners. The banks have been the biggest LEACHES sucking everything out of our present economy, the most ravenous pigs going. Remember those golden parachutes?? remember those corporate jets and lavish conventions with the tax money bail out?? DID YOU PAY ATTENTION?
Yes, please enlighten us, because as far as all the credible economists on.....sm
CNBC and even the international market watch on BBC, what JTBB just outlined is EXACTLY the scenario that is currently occuring right now under your own nose, they took the first bail-out money that Bush proposed, and bloated up their own assets on the marketk, in order to keep their stocks from imploding, instead of extending credit to worthy/needy businesses and homeowners. The banks have been the biggest LEACHES sucking everything out of our present economy, the most ravenous pigs going. Remember those golden parachutes?? remember those corporate jets and lavish conventions with the tax money bail out?? DID YOU PAY ATTENTION?
Perhaps you could enlighten us on the economic crisis suffered by
There is nothing in your chart or context that convincingly explains away the $559 billion dollar surplus Clinton left behind when his term came to an end.
Having said that, most Americans will agree that, when compared to the past 8 years, the middle class enjoyed a prosperous decade in the 90s. I was able to pay off my condo, so it has been foreclosure-proof under W.
When you have a bipartisan version of the bill to view...please enlighten us. nm
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So enlighten us, I love to learn, the past 8 years were a hard lesson indeed.....nm
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I'm not - NOPE.
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Nope...sm
The Billy part was childish but he was right on with his anti-war part of the debate.
Bill was the one who threw his nephew in there and tried to make it like he was being denigrated. Phil simply asked him would he let his children go fight in this war and that's when Bill threw a hissy fit about his nephew.
Remember the factor is a NO SPIN ZONE, but Bill was spinning.
Again, I'll give you the point Billy was childish. I guess that's why he said he would not have Phil back on the show.
Nope!
Nope.
Not overestimating your own ability to debate, be witty and intelligent either, unfortunately. Those insults are really lame. I mean they really are. I can't believe people let you get away with that.
Nope, cuz you are always
Nope I'm not
I'm defending a president who has the courage to do what is right.
God bless GWB. I'm glad he doesn't cower to lilly-livers like you.
Nope. Not a he. nm
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Nope.
My opinion is right. Everyone else is wrong.
Nope..........
If ACORN really was interested in oversight, they would have woke up the first time they were investigated and some of their "followers" indicted for crimes committed. They know this is going on because some of their own workers have spoken out and said they were coerced, threatened, etc., by ACORN heads to go out and do this, and ACORN did what they needed to do to make sure there was no one looking through these false registrations.
It's still happening, so you gonna sit there and tell me they STILL don't now it's going on?
Nope
Steal job...steal food......what's the difference. Apples=apples, oranges=oranges.
Nope, not mad at you, not at all.
not mad at anyone. Just stating a simple fact...I do not trust Obama and I do not respect him simply because he holds the office. He has to earn both. I do not think that any of the democrats here would do any less if McCain had won the election, and I do not think I would be seeing as many unity posts from democrats if McCain had won, which makes me doubt the sincerity.
However, that is not at issue. This is between the President elect and me...as I said, he is the master of his own destiny and my opinion of him going forward will be crafted by him and him alone...not by his followers or detractors.
:-)
Nope
I blame the repeal of Glass-Steagall, the passage of the Gramm-Leach-Biley Act for creating, in large part, the mess we are in today. Without those occurrences, there would not have been 80% of subprime mortages doled out by entities not covered by CRA.
Combine that with the Ponzi scheme of bundling derivatives, and it brings global economy to its knees.
Nope...(sm)
As pointed out I don't know how many times on this board...HE'S NOT THE PRESIDENT YET! I think that both parties would agree that it would send a very conflicting message were both Bush and Obama to attend. That is why he's not going.
Nope I can't
The posters on this board say it all. Some are so in love with the O, others worship the ground he walks on. I'm not putting everyone in the same boat, but for the most part if you read the posts it is a clear love/worship affair they have with the O. I won't categorize you in the same boat because you have shown some good thoughts to your posts, but others do not. And yes it is repulsive.
They do say love is blind and you sure can tell on this board.
I do like your saying though "Good grief gertie". :-)
Nope, she's right on. - nm
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Nope
Not buying it. I certainly can expect to raise my children as I see fit w/o the government coming into my home and taking over. I also can certainly expect, as all parents SHOULD, that the government would have certain regulations and laws about public internet access and pornography. I should NOT have to sit with my 17-year-old son in the library and hold his hand while he is on the computer doing research just because the government has decided that pornography is a God given right and all can see it. I certainly have a RIGHT to expect my government to provide decent public environments in such places as libraries for the good of our children. My parenting skills are my responsibility 100% yes I agree. However, the government has a RESPONSIBILITY to ensure our children are not exposed to this kind of stuff in places such as this. WHY?? Because there are freaks out there that think that anything is okay and they don't care about our children and as long as we have to live in this world with people like that, we should, as parents, be able to DEPEND on our government to keep our children safe and unexposed to trash like this. I mean hey, why dont we just get rid of R rated movies for kids under 17 and then why NOT let any kid of any age go into the adult video stores and do whatever they want. Why not just show porn shows on public TV? I mean, isnt it censorship NOT to allow a TV channel air whatever they want?
Nope yourself.
That's how it works, dear.
Nope....that's not what I said...(sm)
I insinuated that that is how we have evolved, into 2 main separate parties. No, I don't think we have to have 2 parties. One would be fine so long as decisions that are made are made in the best interest of the people. That's one thing I like about Obama, his willingness to work with the other side, regardless of whether or not they return the favor. However, quite frankly, the republican side of the equation is not doing very well. They have managed to stampede all over the constitution (founding father stuff, btw), take away rights, left us with a deficit when they started with a surplus (while they are calling us the spending party), and completely destroyed any credibility we had worldwide. What I see in the democratic party IS common sense.
Nope
My mother was a police officer who killed a man, but she didn't have an abortion, so I guess she is okay then right? What about my dad, grandfather and brother who killed people in the war? Are they okay too? Oh and my uncle who is a police officer, he shot and killed people. Is he okay? I mean a life is a life, right?
Nope.
But I still have my McCain/Palin sticker on my car.
Nope.......
The quran has many many many words said against (hate) Christians and Jews by Mohammed.
Quran 8:39 “So fight them (Arabic quran says murder them) until there is no more Fitnah (sanity; 'disbelief' [ of/to/by non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone".
This is speaking of Christians, Jews, and ANYONE who is not Muslim.
Sounds like love doesn't it?
Nope.....LOL.(sm)
The couple that just had the union would also have the same opportunity to practice whatever ceremony that applied to them, and just like the christians, would not be recognized legally without a union.
Look at it like this (and this is probably a bad analogy, but I'll try it anyway): Everyone has to go to high school (unions), but if they want to go that extra mile to excell they go to college (practice whatever religious beliefs).
And before you guys start, yes, I do know that not everyone goes to high school.
Nope, wrong again! SM
Wrong wrong wrong. That must make you...wrongle! A wrong person. Yassah!
Not true....nope.
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Nope we aren't
you can believe that but it just ain't so...
Nope. Not happy yet.
Most, if not all, of YOUR posts are incredibly tasteless, in addition to being rude, crude, offensive and frequently untrue. Yet, NO liberal has accused you of saying they aren't allowed to speak.
Incredibly tasteless = Not permitted to speak IN WHAT WAY?
Are you agreeing that the poster lied in saying that Army Mom was told she wasn't allowed to speak?
No, of course you're not doing that.
Never mind.
Nope, afraid we can't
as long as libs wan't to dig up dirt we'll continue throwing the mud you throw from your huge pig stye right back at ya...
Nope. Mohammed's. nm
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Nope, just a bad link. sm
It says it is corrupted or something like that. I didn't pay that much attention. It won't open though.
Huckabee...? Nope....
from defintion of facism: Fascist movements usually try to retain some supposedly healthy parts of the nation's existing political and social life, but they place more emphasis on creating a new society. In this way fascism is directly opposed to conservatism—the idea that it is best to avoid dramatic social and political change. Instead, fascist movements set out to create a new type of total culture in which values, politics, art, social norms, and economic activity are all part of a single organic national community.
With all due respect, that sounds much more like where liberals are heading than where conservatives are heading...?
Nope, exactly how I meant it
Pretty self explanatory.
Nope, just honest...get over it!
Nope...but I would like your opinion who...
slur an innocent 16-year-old girl in the name of politics. Personally, I think it reeks, but that is just me.
Nope, thrilled.
Most of the reasons you listed are reasons I would want her in office, including against gun control, against gay marriage, drilling in Alaska, and global warming. And who in the he!! cares what she named her kids. That's just petty. I think if the drive-bys and the dems are in such an uproar about this lady, she must have been the perfect choice.
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