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Checked both. Didn't call for more comment.

Posted By: Get a grip. It's only a poll. nm on 2008-08-30
In Reply to: Geez, check rasmussen. Love these drive by potshots. lol. nm - sam

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Yeah, but at least I checked and didn't go into
didn't want an out-of state car, especially one from where it snows in the winter and the roads are salted or treated with other chemicals. (Rusts/rots the undercarriage). Or one with lots of owners. The one I got had been a very lightly-used corporate car from Southern California, and it had very low miles for a 5-year old car - only 40,000.
FYI--I didn't post the comment above this.sm
I think this was a mistake. Is this you Observer?

P.S. If there is another person posting with the Democrat moniker let me know and I will change mines.
Hey, I didn't call anyone a racist

Sir Percy did.  The French are mostly Anglos, so yes, the French can be classified as a race but not a unique one.


Yep, and I believe extreme leftists are loons.  I say the same for extreme right wingers.  Extremism is a bad thing on either side, and yes they are loons.


But the truth is, I didn't call you ignorant. sm
So I am not sure where you are going with this.
Last I checked
Around here PETA is not law, and it isn't anywhere else, so I'm not sure why you would check with them. Lots of folks take their pets to the pound knowing they will be killed.


Uh, last I checked, the Bible said
to help those less fortunate than you, NOT those who just don't want to work but just want to collect money from the government for doing nothing.


Last time I checked.............sm
Young adult men and women go to Iraq and go there of their own free will. It is their decision, not their mothers'.
You are so right. He could have checked the box on his return and....
given all he wanted to the treasury. No one is stopping him. Oh wait...that's OUR job. lol.
The last time I checked..

Hawaii was part of the US. 


Copy of Obama's birth certificate


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html


Has anyone checked their paychecks lately?

Mine is higher, and I didn't get a raise.


If y'all want to attend tea parties and complain against that, go ahead, but it seems the richest of the rich have the most to gain by all this and are using "common folk" to fight for them and possibly cut their own throats in the process.


Just my opinion.


The last time I checked
this was a "political" board not "homosexual lover's" board. Maybe someone does want to hear. It is my business just as much as it is anyone else's.
Definetly not, if there is wrong doing it should be CHECKED!
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I dutifully went to all these links and checked...
all refer to the book by Cliff Shechter...they are quoting him. No one else has independently corroborated this. His book says "three reporters who reported anonymously." I understand that you believe, based on what this man said in his book, even though no one else apparently heard this...that it is true. I just don't have similar belief. Just like I don't assume that Hillary Clinton liberally used the "F" word because some unnamed or anonymous sources said she did. Do a search on Hillary CLinton F word secret service and look at all the crap that comes up. That's what I mean. And her "people" always declined to deny it. They did not dignify it with a response. Same case here. Only it is not one quote...it is several. But, using your logic, it must have been all true or Hillary would have sued those who were saying it?

Bottom line is you choose to believe it, I don't. Answer this for me...if a conservative wrote a book about Obama and said he had three anonymous sources who heard Obama call his wife the C word, would you believe that as readily as you believe this?

Just asking.
Yeah, right. You checked what you wanted to see.

I saw her on an interview the other night. The host did not tear her to shreds like Gibson and Couric did. He asked sensible questions and she gave sensible answers. Gibson and Couric set her up big time to make a fool out of her and don'cha know they're for the O? They were downright spiteful.


Katie did it to up her ratings since she's not doing so great at CBS. Gibson did it because he was told to do it. (NBC=MSNBC)


I decided then that I would not watch either of those 2 so-called reported again. To each his own and this is MY opinion.


No, you have not checked the facts. You are a robot

spewing the party line. 


I don't hide behind God, by the way.  He lights the way, so therefore He has to be in front.


 


I just checked out the McCain site
and the first thing I saw was OBAMA, and then after the intro page, I got to the main page and saw OBAMA several times. On Obama's page, I didn't see any immediate mention of McCain anywhere.

Shame on all of you for taking out your frustrations on a child.
Did you notice the date? Have you checked out
huge bodies of evidence to the contrary? Besides that, what's your point?
Last time I checked, Christian Bibles do not
to kill all Muslims and Jews and all those that are NOT Muslim. They do not say to hate any that are not Christians but to love all.

That is NOT taught in Islamic faith.
last time I checked this country costs

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That is just plain wrong, checked your hateful source
and I find it incendiary
Last time I checked, it's not 'blatant' to have dinner with one's spouse...

Last time I checked, it's not 'blatant' to have dinner with one's spouse...

Comment on Bush comment

I heard Bush this morning saying that no one predicted or knew that the New Orleans levees would give way.  Well, that is not true.  This was widely predicted by engineers and meteologists.  The engineers predicted it for years if/when a major hurricaine hit, as well as engineers and meteorologists predicting this 1-2 days before Katrina.  I even told my boyfriend last Sunday night that they were predicting some levees would break, that New Orleans would be in water the same depth as Lake Pontchartrain and that thousands could die.  Gee, guess I should be a White House advisor.


My other gripe is that this federal response seems a bit slow.  Like maybe Monday afternoon things should have been put into motion instead of......Thursday?  But then, I'm sure not an expert.


too ignorant a comment to comment on...nm
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Call me what you want, just don't call me late for dinner. LOL....
GP, I like your sense of humor.
You call it hysteria, some call it concern for the
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Then call it what it is...or call for conservation...
but don't make up a myth to try to gain control. That is what Gore is after...what all the global warming hoohah is after. They have an agenda...pure and simple. And the base fact is that a very low percentage of the greenhouse gas effect is from cars. Every time you breathe out, you contribute. Are we all going to stop breathing? Are cows going to stop belching? I have no problem with ethanol...I have used it. My husband is from Iowa...I would love it if we started using ethanol more extensively. But in previous years, Democrats (Hillary being a primary one) opposed the use of ethanol. I guess if I believed any of those people out there hawking global warming actually believed what they were saying it would be different...but I don't. The science is not there. As I said...if the real interest is conservation with the side benefit of less CO2...fine. Just say so. But as the article pointed out...if it is as bad as they say it is, you can't stop it anyway. It just does not make good sense to me.
Fine. Call if whatever you want to call it....
I will call it as I see it. I look at a totality of things. He has embraced black liberation theology which is racist and has Marxist tones for 20 years. There is no way the man went to that church for 20 years and did not know their doctrine. But, if you choose to believe that, again, fine. I do not. I believe he knows that theology backward and forward and believes it to his core. You don't have to. That is the wonderful thing about America. We can agree or disagree. On this we disagree.

Yes, I am feeling a pinch. But I don't think the government should take money from you and give it to me. I don't think they should take money from any private business and give it to me. If you think that is fair, fine. I don't. That is how socialism/Marxism takes hold. Historically it ends the same way. I don't want that for America. Perhaps you do...you want the pinch eased for you and if that means taking money from someone else that they earned, and giving it to you, who did not earn it, to you it is all good. To me it isn't.

He never has said who the $1000 checks are going to. I am thinking not every person in the whole US of A...so not only does he get to choose who he takes the money from, he gets to choose who to give it to. That would be another interesting piece of the puzzle. If he confirms to the Marxist view, it would be issuing checks to the "poor." And he gets to define who that is. You may be okay with that...me, not so much.

And by the way...have you ever researched an oil company profit margin? It is not as huge as Obama would like you to believe. But, again, he is counting on no one researching what he says. They hear free money and that's all they want to hear. Also, do you think oil companies don't employ people? You think it is one CEO at a desk in an office raking in billions? You don't think there are rank and file regular folks who work for oil companies? Whose jobs might be impacted by you and others wanting to take money away from their employers and doling it out to people who have not earned it? You think there is a chance they might have a problem with that?
I call, fax, and call again and I do campaign....
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I didn't miss any part and didn't say...
anything either way. I just posted a link.
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Why did you choose the Hilter comparison?


Here is what I saw in Hitler:


1.  Megalomania - yes, possibly in Bush.


2.  Skillful use of the propaganda of hate to unite a nation and incite a lust for war.  Blaming of select ethnic group for Germany's woes -- yes, I see some similarity there, but Bush seems more like "oops, sorry I accidentlly killed you" to the Iraquis (Islam nations) rather than "I will place you in concentration camps until you are all exterminated." 


3.  Hitler was mentally ill but still capable of great, inspirational speeches and inspiring confidence in the masses -- Bush is kind of dopey and I'm not sure who he inspires, really, if much of anyone.


4.  Hitler seemed to have an agenda to exterminate -- as mentioned, I don't see that in Bush.


Well, I had fun with this.  WWII is an area that I know quite a bit about.


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Did gt actually say there were NO socialist Jews?  I took her to mean that Jews in general should not be categorized as socialists.  There are probably socialist Irish, socialist Catholics, socialist African-Americans....but that doesn't mean you label the entire ethnic group as such.  Common sense would dictate this.  Just as I keep saying, you cannot label all liberals or all democrats as having the same ideals and belief systems.  You seem to keep trying to put square pegs in round holes here....or, as also has been mentioned...thinking only in black and white when the world and all its people are shades of gray.  It makes me very sad to see this and I end up feeling hopeless about the future of our country and of the world.


As far as Chomsky, I haven't read tons of his writing but what I did read a few years ago I very much liked.  Could it be a case of you taking some things he wrote out of context?  Or perhaps some things he wrote were more fiery or radical than you were comfortable with?  Perhaps you didn't survey his writings as a whole and only picked out a few you didn't like.  When you make an accusation as you did, please provide examples to back up your comments.


Your comment...

I think I do your understand your point....basically you are saying his comment was taken out of context?  It did seem that what I read of this quote was more that he was careless in his comments - they touched a nerve, as I said.  It seemed he was looking at a cultural problem from a tongue-in-cheek statistical line of reasoning, and perhaps spoke before thinking.  At least, I HOPE that's all it was.  I have not read this all that carefully, I must admit.  I also admit I know NOTHING about him personally or his past.


Thanks for your intelligent commentary.


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Obviously your beliefs bring you solace and comfort and that is a benefit that religion offers, in my opinion, and that is very good if it helps you.


However, perhaps you should not generalize.  I was a hospice worker as well as watching my mother die from cancer.  She was a life-long agnostic and I don't believe it ever even crossed her mind to call out to Jesus or Zeus or any other deity.  She made the most graceful exit from this world I have ever seen and was at peace with that process. 


I do agree though that in times of extreme stress many folks may want to enlist the aid of a higher power, but please don't assume that we all turn to Jesus.


Just a comment
Does this apply to anyone who helps a  specific region?  That would certainly limit a lot of programs that target specific groups of the poor.  So when President Johnson launched his War on Poverty targeting Appalachia he should have been required to live there?  I am just so happy to see interest and help provided for the most downtrodden sectors of our society (as well as worldwide) that I can see no good reason to require that the folks contributing have to change their place of residence. 
Had to comment
The story about your prescriptions rings so true! My insurance company sends me these little papers after every x-ray, lab test, etc. that outlines what I paid, what they paid, and whether or not the price was reduced. I had blood tests that I was initially told cost $1,150. (I almost passed out!) After a few months of arguing with the insurance company and the lab, I get one of these little papers that says my $1,150 bill was knocked down to $150 - without my insurance paying anything. The lab went ahead and reduced the price since my insurance was obviously not going to pay for it. I've had this done with hospital bills, too. I just love looking at those numbers. Someone is making a HUGE profit somewhere for them to be able to cut the price down that much. Kinda like when I worked in retail and I got to see the difference between what the store paid to the manufacturer and what the price tag said. Sometimes I'd almost rather not know...
Just another comment
I've been watching all stations of the news. I'm not voting for Obama. I don't trust him. I also don't trust McCain and not voting for him. I'm sure I will write in someone's name. With that said I have seen no "love fest" with Obama (watch CNN, MSNBC, and FOX). I'm not seeing this "love fest", however it was so obvious with Clinton. It was so obvious and so nauseating that I always had a bucket nearby to retch in.

As for McCain..who is saying that he is supposed to "hide" the fact that he was tortured. I've never heard that on any station. However, McCain keeps playing it over and over and over. This is not the Vietnam war and I don't care what anyone says...just because he was tortured doesn't make him qualified to be President. What makes some qualified is having your "faculties" together. Know what country you are talking about and know what's going on with the countries. DH and I were looking at each other funny when he's talking about Iran and says the Israeli people and vice versa. He doesn't know where the Taliban are, and for sure he has no idea or plans to get this country back on its feet. He is a war mongerer and that's all he's planning for. If its not one country he'll start up a war somewhere else. It's what he thrives on.

As for September 11th - the truth will come out one day and people will be shocked and in denial.
First of all, i appreciate very much your comment...
about her daughter.

That being said...there are women in high places who have young children. I do not think that precludes Sarah Palin from serving. She has been managing as governor, including firing the state chef because she wanted to cook for her own kids.

JFK had young children. Both John and Caroline were very young. Jackie did a fine job raising them. They were/are fine young people.
the difference is that Sarah is VP, not president, and her husband will be taking a larger role. There are a lot of husbands who stay at home more to take care of children because of the wife's career. I don't remember how old amy carter was...13 maybe?

At any rate, that is not an issue for me. Those children seem happy and well adjusted after their mom being a mayor and then a governor, and I have no reason to believe they will suffer if she is VP.

I think that just brings her closer to understanding career women, who can have both without excluding the other. I think that makes her closer to mothers, period. She understands.

But that is just my opinion...and you are certainly entitled to yours.
Just a comment
Having offspring is not the only reason to get married as your post suggests (not saying it says that, just saying it "suggests" that). You said "If same-gender marriage was to be then where would there be offspring". There are a lot of man/women couples who cannot have children (like me), should that have stopped us from getting married? Loving a person and wanting to spend the rest of your life with them and share the same rights every other human being get to have should be the basis for a marriage. Just leave the offspring to couples who can have kids. The world will still be fruitful and multiple.
Well, my comment on that is ---
If you don't believe in abortion and you don't believe in gay marriage, then don't get an abortion and don't get married to a gay person, and you will still get to pay less taxes!
Thanks for your comment..nm
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(Basically, Russia wants to be able to trust the USA again but is deploying "short-range missiles near Poland to counter U.S. military plans in Eastern Europe" in response to Bush's missile placement in Poland and the Czech Republic.)


From: 


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081105/ap_on_re_eu/eu_russia_medvedev


After the speech, the Kremlin announced Medvedev had congratulated Obama for winning the U.S. presidency, saying in a telegram he was "counting on a constructive dialogue with you on the basis of trust and taking each other's interests into account."


So, no comment on JTP?
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I think we both know better so why should your comment
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Thanks. I appreciate this comment.
I was beginning to think I was hallucinating hate speech after hours and hours of defending the other side of the coin. Guess that means I should pack it in for the night. After all, the Israelis will still be attacking Gaza in the morning and I guess it wouldn't hurt to say a few prayers, begging for mercy and hoping the gound invasion will not take place.
My comment is to anyone
who lived that carefree, don't worry about tomorrow attitude that got them in the situation they are in now. Who in their right mind would agree to an interest-only mortgage, an ARM, or any other harebrained idea to own a home. I am more irritated with the ones who knew they made $50,000 a year and bought a $300,000 home and can now plead stupid and irresponsible and the gov't will bend over backwards to help them out. I am sick and tired of my money going to those who have no clue as to how to manage money, can't better themselves without the gov't helping out, and just plain expect someone else to pay for their mistakes. Believe me, I am tender hearted, feel for the children, etc, I don't want to see anyone lose their home but for cryin' out loud, take some responsibility and quit blaming the lenders; they did not FORCE people to buy homes. Sure, they made an attractive offer, but that does not preclude common sense going right out the window just because you want something. Shelter is a right; owning a home is a privilege when you can afford it.
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I'll take the ignorant comment
as a compliment....believe or not I do read a lot and from different perspectives.  What people like you can't stand is that some people don't take the same perspective as you.  If you want to live in a doom and gloom and defeatest mindset go ahead...you are certainly free to do so, but calling me ignorant for my perspective on the whole situation shows that you cannot accept other's views on the whole subject.  Again, where's the tolerance and understanding? 
Dont comment, please
A Xtian, if he/she does not want to look like a fool, should not comment on Israel.
Okay, one last comment (for the time being)

When I spoke of hijacked I meant:


1.  I have been banned at times from the Conservative board for comments I've made which seemed pretty tame in retrospect.  How many of you conservatives have been banned on the liberal board? I'll bet none, but hope I'm wrong.


2.  The conservative board have reminded the liberals posting on it REPEATEDLY that it is their board, no bashing allowed and to go back to their own board - often in a very nasty fashion.  Fair enough, but the same rules are NOT followed by the conservatives posting on the liberal board and that is definitely not playing fair and creates a double-standard.


3.  It does make me happy to see conservatives posting on this board but I do not enjoy the bashing and the double-standard (see point #2) that I see going on.  Worst of all, it turns me into a basher at times, too, out of frustration!!


That's it, didn't mean to start a civil war or anything.


I have learned SO much from both conservative and liberal posts and hope it continues.


Additional comment on this.

Open the website listed and take a look at ALL THE OFFERS.  It is WONDERFUL.  Some groups are accepting over 1000 people.  It will make you feel like people really do CARE and they are all over the country.