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I dutifully went to all these links and checked...

Posted By: sam on 2008-08-20
In Reply to: Links provided - me

all refer to the book by Cliff Shechter...they are quoting him. No one else has independently corroborated this. His book says "three reporters who reported anonymously." I understand that you believe, based on what this man said in his book, even though no one else apparently heard this...that it is true. I just don't have similar belief. Just like I don't assume that Hillary Clinton liberally used the "F" word because some unnamed or anonymous sources said she did. Do a search on Hillary CLinton F word secret service and look at all the crap that comes up. That's what I mean. And her "people" always declined to deny it. They did not dignify it with a response. Same case here. Only it is not one quote...it is several. But, using your logic, it must have been all true or Hillary would have sued those who were saying it?

Bottom line is you choose to believe it, I don't. Answer this for me...if a conservative wrote a book about Obama and said he had three anonymous sources who heard Obama call his wife the C word, would you believe that as readily as you believe this?

Just asking.


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Around here PETA is not law, and it isn't anywhere else, so I'm not sure why you would check with them. Lots of folks take their pets to the pound knowing they will be killed.


Uh, last I checked, the Bible said
to help those less fortunate than you, NOT those who just don't want to work but just want to collect money from the government for doing nothing.


Last time I checked.............sm
Young adult men and women go to Iraq and go there of their own free will. It is their decision, not their mothers'.
You are so right. He could have checked the box on his return and....
given all he wanted to the treasury. No one is stopping him. Oh wait...that's OUR job. lol.
The last time I checked..

Hawaii was part of the US. 


Copy of Obama's birth certificate


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html


Has anyone checked their paychecks lately?

Mine is higher, and I didn't get a raise.


If y'all want to attend tea parties and complain against that, go ahead, but it seems the richest of the rich have the most to gain by all this and are using "common folk" to fight for them and possibly cut their own throats in the process.


Just my opinion.


The last time I checked
this was a "political" board not "homosexual lover's" board. Maybe someone does want to hear. It is my business just as much as it is anyone else's.
Definetly not, if there is wrong doing it should be CHECKED!
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Yeah, right. You checked what you wanted to see.

I saw her on an interview the other night. The host did not tear her to shreds like Gibson and Couric did. He asked sensible questions and she gave sensible answers. Gibson and Couric set her up big time to make a fool out of her and don'cha know they're for the O? They were downright spiteful.


Katie did it to up her ratings since she's not doing so great at CBS. Gibson did it because he was told to do it. (NBC=MSNBC)


I decided then that I would not watch either of those 2 so-called reported again. To each his own and this is MY opinion.


No, you have not checked the facts. You are a robot

spewing the party line. 


I don't hide behind God, by the way.  He lights the way, so therefore He has to be in front.


 


I just checked out the McCain site
and the first thing I saw was OBAMA, and then after the intro page, I got to the main page and saw OBAMA several times. On Obama's page, I didn't see any immediate mention of McCain anywhere.

Shame on all of you for taking out your frustrations on a child.
Did you notice the date? Have you checked out
huge bodies of evidence to the contrary? Besides that, what's your point?
Yeah, but at least I checked and didn't go into
didn't want an out-of state car, especially one from where it snows in the winter and the roads are salted or treated with other chemicals. (Rusts/rots the undercarriage). Or one with lots of owners. The one I got had been a very lightly-used corporate car from Southern California, and it had very low miles for a 5-year old car - only 40,000.
Checked both. Didn't call for more comment.
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Last time I checked, Christian Bibles do not
to kill all Muslims and Jews and all those that are NOT Muslim. They do not say to hate any that are not Christians but to love all.

That is NOT taught in Islamic faith.
last time I checked this country costs

nm


That is just plain wrong, checked your hateful source
and I find it incendiary
Last time I checked, it's not 'blatant' to have dinner with one's spouse...

Last time I checked, it's not 'blatant' to have dinner with one's spouse...

Thanks for the links! nm
nm
thanks for the links
I will check them out after finishing my IC work!
I am still an IC and I don't know why my taxes are high, I have been doing it for over 10 years, but I have an accountant do them, and I pay quarterly's yes I do... I still always end up paying at the end of the year even if I try to calculate it correctly because of deductions I thought I had, etc. The only thing that changed in my personal life was two years ago I bought a house. Did that cover the questions?

I just don't trust either politician, but align myself with the Republican values more strongly.
Thanks for the links....sm
...but this was the year after she was no longer the mayor of Wasilla, and three years before she became governor, so she was not in office in 2003. I notice they don't even try to link her name to this. I'm sure they would have, if they could have.


Anyway, sure doesn't excuse the drug problem in the communities, though. I still don't like it one bit.

Links

I do not understand why so many links are put on this board?


On a blog forum one should put one's own opinion, not what is posted on the internet.  At least one should put it in one's own words.


Here are the links again...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html


http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/21/AR2006062101837.html


http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htchem/articles/20060123.aspx


Here's two links...sm
First off, when you have a private meeting with the president, it's private. But then parts of it were leaked to the press. Then the White house asked for a retraction of false statements made by Obama camp. Then the Obama camp retracted what they said.



There's more to it than these two stories, but these are the best I can find at the moment.


http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/11/obama-urges-bush-help-auto-indusstry/

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Business/story?id=6231372&page=1


Links
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2129667/posts

This link has a clip:
http://motownsports.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1685563
Some links for you
Sorry it took so long. I kept reading about his plans to keep the military over there but sure enough when I want to find the exact article I can't. Here are some articles I did find. (P.S. - I think it odd the person who is chosen for SoS position (Billiary) is the same person who said they would "obliterate Iran". Am sure that's going to go over well with them.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/04/obama-adviser-keep-80000-troops-in-iraq/

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1857338,00.html

http://www.laboreducator.org/troopshome.htm

Here's what some people say (so it's not just me) -

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081112052420AAQI2Su

And here's one of the scariest things I've heard (out of Obama's own mouth - if you can listen to it without watching his eyes read the teleprompter). He's pretty much telling us "Yes I can make us defenseless".

http://msunderestimated.com/2008/03/01/obamas-plans-for-our-military-video/

Links...(sm)

Warning:  On this first one there are some terrible pics, but I posted this for the text.


http://www.staticbrain.com/archive/pentagon-censors-soldiers-access-to-internet/


On this one, please note where he says *When you’re in an environment where you don’t have access to any information sources, independent or otherwise, all you can do is conjecture. We didn’t have any access to newspapers or the Internet. *


http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2008-03-14/article/29458?headline=Iraq-Veteran-Speaks-Out-Against-War


Here's a reality check for you:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOj7Nxcn6gg&feature=related


Here's two links for you
These were posted before some of the crap was taken out, so some of it may be old, but these give a good idea how the government plans to spend our money, and our children's money, and our grandchildren's money, etc.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123204034869386185.html



This one uses Adobe.



http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/AmericanReinvestment2009115

Here's the links for ya.

 


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iVg2jiaBA1jwVfCdsisXI0FbZD0AD965BKCG0



 


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29030191/


See links
http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/3817

http://foro.univision.com/univision/board/message?board.id=cubanosenmiami&message.id=55144


See links
http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/3817

http://foro.univision.com/univision/board/message?board.id=cubanosenmiami&message.id=55144


What is it with these links today?

SM, better links than supplied by OPs

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/01/019637.php


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1200572509823&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


 


Can you give links on any of this....
other than..."I heard..." Believe me, the way auto sales are falling, if they could manufacture one that ran on water and sold for $1200 they would be selling them, because $1200 is better than zero...good grief. Talk about your conspiracy theories. All the automakers are downsizing and grasping to try to sell cars and they would NOT ignore something they could build and sell cheap...simple economics 101. The Wal-mart approach to car sales, and they all know how successful wal-mart is, because all the pieties about "I only buy American" and "offshoring" fall to the wayside in favor of "cheap." All those same people who gripe about wal-mart buying overseas and supposedly mistreating their employees run over each other to get to the sales, and don't think they don't. Typical Democrat mantra...do as we say, not as we DO.

As to the car McCain offered the bounty for on the battery...he was talking about one that would replace what is in use now...not one whose top end is 30 mph and you have to charge it after an hour. Good grief, get your facts straight. :-) I am sure he meant one that would at least do 50 mph and you could drive it to the quick pick and back without having to plug it in. That being said, I did see where Toyota (on the US side) is working on technology to attach solar panels to charge batteries. Of course, that would mean leaving that sweeetttt little sports car out in the sun...ahem. Bet Teddy Kennedy won't be buying one and I bet RFK Jr. won't either...lol. Gotta love'em. DO as we SAY...not as we DO.
Links provided
The words were witnessed by two McCain aides and three reporters who did not report it at the time.

If it wasn’t true there would be lawsuits (which there are not). And with him running for president you KNOW he would be denying it as he is denying other things, but he is not denying it.

Here are the links below where this information can be found. Many more links but I think five are enough.

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/05/02/194648.php

http://www.thepost.ohiou.edu/Articles/Opinion/Columns/2008/04/15/23789/

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/8/17456/91972/887/492360

http://agonist.org/schecter/?p=8571

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=536_1210293502


URLs or links only, please. nm

Terrorist links
Can you PROVE beyond a shadow of DOUBT that this is TRUE?? sheesh!!
Actually, after that, I'm not opening links
.
Why don't any of your links work? nm
.
Providing Links
Just because someone on this forum provides a link to prove their point does not mean that the link is truthful or valid. There are thousands of downright lies posted on the Internet each and every day, and providing a link to one of them does not prove anything. There are an abundance of right-wing fanatic links that provide lies and smear tactics, shameful racist links, and right-wing political links posted by raging lunatics. The links to provided to validate a poster's claim are a waste of time unless they come from a proven reliable news source.
The links go to a PDF of his tax returns
This is his one from 2006

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/files/obama_2006_tax_return.pdf

They also said Obama posted his tax returns on his website but I haven't found them yet. Supposedly they were released when Hillary was still in the running.

I hate trying navigate through any of the candidate's sites! They need a search menu!
Here's 3 links. Any questions?
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issues/EnvironmentFactSheet.pdf
Page 4 of this document. Includes a video.

http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/full-text-barack-obama-speech-real-leadership-for-a-clean-energy-future/


http://www.jacksonholestartrib.com/articles/2008/03/08/news/casper/doc47d2397a06235615103300.txt

No. They don't "do" links.

If you copy and paste the entire thing, you stand about a 12% chance of them actually reading it.  So here is, ironically, what you get when you click on the word "REQUIRE."


It might be too many words for some, but the bottom line is that this is a choice, NOT a REQUIREMENT.



America Serves


"When you choose to serve -- whether it's your nation, your community or simply your neighborhood -- you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That's why it's called the American dream."

The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.


I'll look at your links a little later..... sm
fighting the clock right now!

I realize it is illegal to fire an employee over religious beliefs. However, I would point out that in "at will" states, an employer does not need to give a reason for terminating an employee. Also, if the cashier were true to their Christian Science beliefs, I would have to wonder why they would seek employment at a store that sold antibiotics in the first place. Kind of like a Baptist working in a liquour store. We might shop there, but we wouldn't be caught dead working there! HAHAHA!!!
Not a fabrication - see links
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/aug2007/2007-08-28-092.asp

http://www.wrmp.org/design/

http://www.sfwetlands.ca.gov/

Just a couple links - not a fabrication.
I, for one, would like to see those links you don't want to post.

Then I will make up my mind.


Don't forget, he was po'd because the CIA and FBI did not work together and he was getting conflicting  info from both sources, but tried to unravel which was true, or did you forget that, too?


Not OP but here are the links to the stories...
http://www.topix.com/forum/louisville/TE5VN7EJ0BLN8QHCL



http://www.foxnews.com/video-search/m/22062919/reverse_discrimination_suit.htm


http://newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/03/rights_groups_b.php



All I had to do was type in "firefighters reverse discrimination test" and up popped a million links.
Interesting links
Thought these links at the bottom were good.

"We ask that he be remembered as a good husband, father and grandfather and a dedicated servant on behalf of the rights of women everywhere," it said.

http://www.lifenews.com/state4187.html

http://churchethos.com/2009/06/01/terminating-tillers-life-is-worse-than-tiller-terminating-olives/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGBYmsNlEZ8


Let me now state that I do NOT agree with what he did, but he was a living human being. He had a wife, children and grandchildren.

Murder is never justified no matter how much you don't agree with what someone does. That is what the law is for.

It's a sad time for all.
Could have been me who posted links, but I never said Bush did it.sm
I post the links because I want everyone to research the issue, want to know what everyone thinks, but most stay quiet. My suspicions would be connected to Cheney and the members of Project for a New American Century.
Thanks for the links. I started reading through them. sm
I started with the first link and only got partially through Palin's. Hope to go back later to finish it and read the other candidates too.

One of the things I read it said where her husband worked for BP. They had said that he would quit if she were elected gov. but after she was they backed out of that and stated that since he was not management it wouldn't matter or wouldn't be a conflict. But wouldn't it be? He works for an oil company, she is for the drilling of oil, etc. To me that is still a big conflict.

Also, why is one thing saying he quit and another thing saying he still works there part-time. This link from above was a direct quote from them I believe.

Anyway, again, thanks for the links. Hope to read up some more tonight.