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Did you notice the date? Have you checked out

Posted By: the govt reports and the...sm on 2008-11-07
In Reply to: Mustard and Sarin Nerve Gas... - sm

huge bodies of evidence to the contrary? Besides that, what's your point?


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Last I checked
Around here PETA is not law, and it isn't anywhere else, so I'm not sure why you would check with them. Lots of folks take their pets to the pound knowing they will be killed.


Uh, last I checked, the Bible said
to help those less fortunate than you, NOT those who just don't want to work but just want to collect money from the government for doing nothing.


Last time I checked.............sm
Young adult men and women go to Iraq and go there of their own free will. It is their decision, not their mothers'.
You are so right. He could have checked the box on his return and....
given all he wanted to the treasury. No one is stopping him. Oh wait...that's OUR job. lol.
The last time I checked..

Hawaii was part of the US. 


Copy of Obama's birth certificate


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html


Has anyone checked their paychecks lately?

Mine is higher, and I didn't get a raise.


If y'all want to attend tea parties and complain against that, go ahead, but it seems the richest of the rich have the most to gain by all this and are using "common folk" to fight for them and possibly cut their own throats in the process.


Just my opinion.


The last time I checked
this was a "political" board not "homosexual lover's" board. Maybe someone does want to hear. It is my business just as much as it is anyone else's.
Definetly not, if there is wrong doing it should be CHECKED!
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I dutifully went to all these links and checked...
all refer to the book by Cliff Shechter...they are quoting him. No one else has independently corroborated this. His book says "three reporters who reported anonymously." I understand that you believe, based on what this man said in his book, even though no one else apparently heard this...that it is true. I just don't have similar belief. Just like I don't assume that Hillary Clinton liberally used the "F" word because some unnamed or anonymous sources said she did. Do a search on Hillary CLinton F word secret service and look at all the crap that comes up. That's what I mean. And her "people" always declined to deny it. They did not dignify it with a response. Same case here. Only it is not one quote...it is several. But, using your logic, it must have been all true or Hillary would have sued those who were saying it?

Bottom line is you choose to believe it, I don't. Answer this for me...if a conservative wrote a book about Obama and said he had three anonymous sources who heard Obama call his wife the C word, would you believe that as readily as you believe this?

Just asking.
Yeah, right. You checked what you wanted to see.

I saw her on an interview the other night. The host did not tear her to shreds like Gibson and Couric did. He asked sensible questions and she gave sensible answers. Gibson and Couric set her up big time to make a fool out of her and don'cha know they're for the O? They were downright spiteful.


Katie did it to up her ratings since she's not doing so great at CBS. Gibson did it because he was told to do it. (NBC=MSNBC)


I decided then that I would not watch either of those 2 so-called reported again. To each his own and this is MY opinion.


No, you have not checked the facts. You are a robot

spewing the party line. 


I don't hide behind God, by the way.  He lights the way, so therefore He has to be in front.


 


I just checked out the McCain site
and the first thing I saw was OBAMA, and then after the intro page, I got to the main page and saw OBAMA several times. On Obama's page, I didn't see any immediate mention of McCain anywhere.

Shame on all of you for taking out your frustrations on a child.
Yeah, but at least I checked and didn't go into
didn't want an out-of state car, especially one from where it snows in the winter and the roads are salted or treated with other chemicals. (Rusts/rots the undercarriage). Or one with lots of owners. The one I got had been a very lightly-used corporate car from Southern California, and it had very low miles for a 5-year old car - only 40,000.
Checked both. Didn't call for more comment.
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Last time I checked, Christian Bibles do not
to kill all Muslims and Jews and all those that are NOT Muslim. They do not say to hate any that are not Christians but to love all.

That is NOT taught in Islamic faith.
last time I checked this country costs

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What was the date of this?

I'm trying to find this, but no luck so far.


That is just plain wrong, checked your hateful source
and I find it incendiary
Last time I checked, it's not 'blatant' to have dinner with one's spouse...

Last time I checked, it's not 'blatant' to have dinner with one's spouse...

I think it is more of a problem regarding the date.
The URL had changed.  It worked yesterday when I posted it, and that's why Starcat was able to see it.
yeah, i used to date him
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Uh...the DATE was 9/11/2001
I do believe that was Dumb-ya's administration. Why don't you read a book? You need some education.
Tell you what, let's arrange a date. We
and let the man, Jesus, explain it all to us while we are walking on the streets of gold and worshipping Him on the streets of gold and he is teaching us Himself all the mysteries that are not unfolded in this life. There will be plenty of time and He will speak in a language we will all understand!
their date night out --
http://mediamatters.org/research/200906010027First, according to this article, the Obama's paid for their own tickets and dinner.  The rest, of course we footed the bill, he had to have security, he had to have his staff, and he had to have his transportation.  That is nothing new - we have done that for every President.I do not expect him to give up his life and be in the White House 24/7 for the entire presidency.  He has to have some fun time with his family and friends or he would go crazy.I don't like the amount of money it takes to do the things the President(s) do, but it is a necessary expense in my mind.  If a man or woman knew they could never leave home again as long as they were serving that they could never move or travel, then nobody would want the job.
Maybe he will sell it to pay for his date

I think the kid just wants Ann Coulter to be his date to the prom.

Here's a funny for you. Note the date.

James I. Blakslee


"Pledged to vote for Woodrow Wilson and support the reorganization of the Democratic Party"


"Democrats in every county in Pennsylvania have been betrayed times without number and to-day trickery and deception walk hand in hand to again mislead them"


"Canidates have been found, who, for a price, are willing to represent the twin-machine traitors."


"Every alert, active Democrat will easily detect the tricksters, and on Saturday, April 13th, 1912, between the hours of 2 PM and 8 PM, will register his vote for the Purification of this Party."


I get a kick out of that.


Bristol Palin's Due Date
According to Levi Johnson, the baby daddy, Bristol Palin's due date is TODAY, December 18. It'll be interesting to see and hear what happens or doesn't happen in the next couple of weeks.

Here's how desperate the GOP is: During their convention, in September the religious family-values party trotted out an unwed teenage mother-to-be and the knucklehead who knocked her up, and they gave them a standing ovation.
Evidently, this is nothing new - check date


Potentially Big News on Lieberman's Cap-and-Trade Proposal



Posted September 20, 2007 | 05:06 PM (EST) 
 




Recently, one of the most irksome members of the Senate, Joe Lieberman (I-Clowntown) expressed openness to one of the boldest and most effective climate-change policies possible. Some background,

 





A cap-and-trade system begins by placing a cap on carbon emissions and distributing permits (permission to emit a certain amount of CO2) equal to the capped amount. The notion is that permits will be bought and sold, allowing market forces to determine where emission reductions can be made fastest and easiest. The question is how to distribute those initial permits.


When the EU carbon trading system was established, permits were given away based on emissions, meaning the biggest polluters got the most permits. The idea was that those polluters most needed the money because they had the biggest reductions to make, but in practice it was an enormous financial windfall for their shareholders and prompted very little action on their part to reduce emissions.


The alternative is to sell the permits at auction. This would, in effect, put the proceeds in government coffers rather than in the pockets of utility shareholders. The question then becomes: what should the gov't do with all that money (up to $50B a year)?


The Lieberman-Warner cap-and-trade proposal, released early this year, was widely seen as the "moderate" bill that could get some support from Senate Republicans. One of the biggest criticisms it faced is that it would auction only 20% of the permits -- 80% would be given away to polluters.


But an intriguing item in Politico indicates that Lieberman may be open to changing that:


Lieberman, following a forum sponsored by the Progressive Policy Institute Wednesday, said such a change to his legislation was possible. "We've heard [calls for a 100 percent auction] from some stakeholders and heard that from some of our members. We're thinking about it. Warner and I haven't closed our minds to that. It's on the table," he said.

This could be huge news. The L-W proposal is viewed as the middle of the road. If it moves to 100% auctioned credits, that will effectively sanctify it as the new baseline. The policy and political implications are both huge.


Are you up to date on canadian journalism and who
What was once one of the best papers in Canada has been overthrown by crooks and cronies alike.....with their very liberal agendas! And you think you're getting a fair and balanced viewpoint from them? Humpf!!


http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/73/The_Death_of_Canadian_Journalism.html
OH PLEEEESE. I go out on a date night, but
or a fancy New York dinner. It is more like a picnic in the park and then to a movie.
date night at home
often just order a pizza and rent a movie. That's time together!
One of the most eloquent posts to date! I hope you
everywhere you can, and not the lies that the 'pubs have been throwing around for far too long. The last 8 years have erased any and all hope that I will:
1 - Be able to retire.
2 - Be able to own a home.
3 - Be able to continue to fund my savings or IRA instead of siphoning from them.
4 - Be able to feel any sense of security whatsoever.
5 - Be able to travel any further than the local K-Mart two towns away, and be able to afford much once I get there.
Aaah, I see you're not up to date on the latest
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Aaah, I see you're not up to date on the latest
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It is still on the docket slated for a court date
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Check the date on your link. Four years ago.
in 2008, now that the free market has gone belly up under the weight of its own corruption.
Petty or not, going on a date with taxpayer money
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trial date set for muzzammil hassan
The "moderate Muslim" who beheaded his wife right here in New York because she served him with with divorce papers and an order of protection. And it's only second degree murder????

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hN-I2OcI1NDn2q5_0TXl11ZhirEQD98JV2080
This is creepy. Check out the date on this video clip.sm
I remember when all the christians were freaking out over this speech.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6012144166694761701
Zell gave that speech exactly 4 years ago to the date... nm
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He feels O's date for Gitmo closure is bad idea
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And...Again......(date) - "let the market take care of it?" - we've seen how well that work

McCain's Emission-Reduction Plan Receives Favorable Review


by: Frank Carlson






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Posted August 11, 2008 | 11:43 AM (EST)


As U.S. Senators Barack Obama and John McCain begin their long descent into tit-for-tat rhetorical games, it's easy to forget key issues the two still broadly agree on: federally funded stem-cell research; nuclear nonproliferation; comprehensive immigration reform; faith-based social services; and global warming.


Obama and McCain agree that human-induced global warming exists and even on the system America should adopt to counteract it -- cap and trade, a plan that sets a limit (cap) on the amount of greenhouse gases emitted by manufacturers and power plants, for example, and then hands out credits that polluters can trade among themselves to pull themselves within the legal limits. Heavy emitters of greenhouse gases have to buy credits from low-level emitters. Cap-and-trade plans reward all sides for reducing emissions. Low-level emitters reduce in order to pile up additional credits to sell and high-level emitters reduce in order to spend less on credits.


Where Obama and McCain disagree on the plan concerns the role of the government, specifically how the government should allocate permits to companies. And unlike the current, silly spat over tire pressure gauges, this one matters.


Obama favors a full auction of the credits, which would act like a tax on companies, collecting a great deal of money right off the bat for the government to redistribute. This cash, he says, could go to alternative energy research and projects, then the credits would go to markets.


McCain says he would dole out permits in much the same way proposed by the Climate Security Act of 2007. That act failed in June to receive enough Senate support to even bring to a vote, but the basics are the same: Give the great majority of the permits away, and let the market set the price to support investment.


Here is where conventional political lines become blurred.


If you favor a more free market approach, McCain's plan may be for you because the government would collect far less money from businesses for redistribution. But if you're spooked by special interests, political favors for lobbyists and political corruption--as McCain says he is--then perhaps you side with Obama's strategy.


So what does Richard Sandor, architect of the wildly successful cap and trade system for reducing sulfur dioxide(SO2) and now CEO of the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX), say?


He's for a partial auction of credits like the one McCain is backing.


"If you look at full auctioning of permits, what happens?" Sandor asked reporters during a recent interview at his office near the Board of Trade in downtown Chicago. "The day that they are auctioned, you have a net transfer of wealth from the private sector to the public sector at that moment. What, then, happens to climate change? Nothing has happened. You have just had a transfer of wealth.
Climate Exchange, the first voluntary but legally
binding market for trading emissions in North America.


It's better to let the private sector decide where the money should go, Sandor says, which is why he's against a carbon tax. And, he adds, there is precedent for believing so.


"The program that's worked is SO2," Sandor said. "Some amount of auctioning is, I think, OK. We will implement whatever the government does. We don't have an official opinion, but I'm guided by the SO2 program and how it accomplished its objectives so cheaply that that's the way to do it."


Sandor insisted the CCX is not a policy-making entity and that it will implement any system lawmakers put forth. Much like pilots, he said, the CCX will fly whichever planes the engineers--or rather, politicians--design.


"If you design it wrong," he said, "you may have to go 30 extra miles, you may have some accidents, or crashes, and we really speak to the efficacy of the design and leave public policy to the people who are policy makers in Washington. We're not advocates."


The CCX is currently North America's only voluntary but legally binding platform for trading carbon and other emissions. Even without a mandatory cap and trade system in the U.S., many companies have already begun to reduce their emissions in the hopes of improving their public image and perhaps reaping revenues through emissions reductions.


While Sandor explains why he's against Obama's plan for the full auction of credits, his greatest priority is getting mandatory cap and trade in place, whatever the framework. Undoubtedly, this would be a great boon to the CCX, and Sandor believes it is coming.


"Both candidates, McCain and Obama, have publicly embraced it," Sandor said. "I believe in their hearts that they're committed to reducing global warming and see it as a major threat. Is it inevitable? I think so. Could there be bumps? Yes."


Those bumps, worries Sandor, include a terrorist attack that could dislodge global warming from the political agenda in favor of dealing with more immediate problems.


"And that's the nightmare scenario that I worry about because it's easy to not worry about intergenerational problems when you have immediate security needs," he says. "And I'm not suggesting that they aren't more important. In fact, they are. But the thing that will slip will be the longer-based horizon, and I think that's a danger that we have."As U.S. Senators Barack Obama and John McCain begin their long descent into tit-for-tat rhetorical games, it's easy to forget key issues the two still broadly agree on: federally funded stem-cell rese...



As U.S. Senators Barack Obama and John McCain begin their long descent into tit-for-tat rhetorical games, it's easy to forget key issues the two still broadly agree on: federally funded stem-cell rese...

Ever notice that

the higher gasoline/oil prices get and the harder it becomes to be able to AFFORD to be an American, the angrier they become and the more they troll?


Poor babies.  They can't focus their anger and rage at Bush because then they'd have to admit that they voted for an idiot, and, just like Bush, there's no way they can ever admit they're wrong.  So they have to come here and attack us instead.


I think the more the Republican party falls apart, the more difficulty they have affording even the most basic of necessities, the more bitter, angry, hateful trolling is likely to be inflicted upon us.


Anyone else but me notice?
Did any of you notice that 3 months ago, there were far more posts on the conservative board, and now there are more on the liberal board.  Could this mean more people are starting to doubt this administration, or just trolling?  Just an observation. Personally I think it is the former rather than the latter.
Did ya notice?

The answer wasn't that your vote should count FAIRLY.


The answer was that you should just LEAVE the red state instead.


Notice
Doocy sitting on the plush couch in his 3-piece suit trashing Americans who are in the middle of a war zone. It's beyond me. I don't get it.

So what if they were complaining? What's his biggest complaint, the coffee's not fresh enough.
Of Course We Notice...

The "drive-bys" are so incredibly in the tank with Baroma!  The lovefest has been far more nauseating than it ever was with Clinton.


How sad it is that McCain (who frustrates the krud out of me often times) is supposed to "hide" the fact that he was tortuored by those who wanted to destroy us for five LONG years?  The enemy has changed, but their hatred of America has only worsened.


It's very likely that if Baroma wins that he'll be the first to be tested (like W was on 9/11).  It could also certainly happen to McCain, but it's quite safe to say how he'd handle another 9/11 type situation.  Sadly,this should give everyone a jolt:  "Karachi Kids."


We will never forget...


Did you notice....(sm)

the cartoon in the New York Post?  Yeah, that's one of the papers owned by Rupert Murdoch -- the same guy that owns Fixed Noise. 


See cartoon below:


Did you notice....(sm)

the cartoon in the New York Post?  Yeah, that's one of the papers owned by Rupert Murdoch -- the same guy that owns Fixed Noise. 


See cartoon below: