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Cyndiee, you are a very wise woman.

Posted By: Running on MT on 2009-02-07
In Reply to: And what about the debt he inheriteed from George W. Bush, take off the blinders......sm - Cyndiee

I have been reading your posts here and on the Faith board, and I must say that you are a breath of fresh air. My hat is off to you!


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cyndiee obviously is the ultimate judge of any post here...all bow to cyndiee...
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Cyndiee, why can't you just say

Oh, now I see.  I never thought of it that way.  What difference does it make about whether or not people should be eating at McDonald's??!.  Let's stay on point.


For another example, if you raise the minimum wage, that shampoo that you have to put off buying (and I applaud your use of a budget - more people need to practice self-restraint) will now go up in price because the people who stock the shelves where you buy that shampoo have now had a raise and that money has to come from somewhere.  The increased payroll cost will drive up prices everywhere. 


I think your earlier point about cracking down on welfare fraud is a great idea and I have been saying that myself for a number of years.


To Cyndiee:

Wow!  I can surely relate to you!  I was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis three years ago and was hospitalized nine times for pancreatitis (caused by CF) since then.  I was just discharged from my TENTH hospitalization after having a very mild stroke last week.


I am prescribed a Duragesic patch (which costs almost $700 a month), other painkillers, and an array of other medications to treat associated problems with CF.  I obviously can't afford my medication.  (Unlike you, though, I did apply for SSDI when I realized that I just can't produce as I used to be able to do.  This is after working 40 consecutive years and paying into the system.  Like most applicants, I was denied and am awaiting a hearing which probably won't happen for another year or so.)  I can certainly relate to the difficulty in paying for medications, and I'm writing this post to you to inquire if you ever looked into the patient assistance programs offered by the manufacturer of the drug.


Right now, I am receiving my Duragesic and Lopid for free from the manufacturer.  After my most recent hospitalization, I've also been prescribed Plavix ($160 at Walmart) and Lipitor ($130 at Walmart).


Since I've already been approved by Pfizer (their "Connection to Care" program) for the Lopid, I am also automatically eligible to receive other products they manufacture (such as Xanax and the Lipitor) for free, as well.


It is very easy to apply, and it is based upon your income.  The income guidelines are very liberal, and if you don't qualify for free medication, you may very well qualify for the medication at a very reduced cost.


I found all of this on the internet by simply Googling to find the manufacturer of the drug and then seeing if they have a patient assistance program.


If it wasn't for these programs, I don't know how I would deal with my medical problems.  I have lived a pretty healthy life, so I can't complain even a little at being diagnosed with this horrible disease, especially when I consider how many babies and small children struggle with CF.


As far as the stroke, I THINK I'm supposed to have a CT scan next Wednesday (the 11th), and I have an appointment with my doc on the 18th of March.  (I just discovered the note about the CT scan and don't recall them talking to me about it before I was discharged, plus I had a CT scan when in the hospital, so I'm just not sure; I guess I'll have to call.  Guess my brain just isn't working -- not really anything new.  LOL)


Anyway, if you're having difficulty paying for your meds and don't have prescription drug insurance, PLEASE look into this option.  I can't begin to express how thankful I am that they exist and that they make applying so easy.


My best wishes to you!! 


Cyndiee, I think you need to read your own
post to God on the Gab board. You're not helping the division with comments like this.
BraVO, Cyndiee
The rest of you Christians, listen up & learn something.
They want it both ways, Cyndiee.
They don't want the lowest-paid workers to make a decent living wage, and they don't want social services to assist these people either. Their solution to the economic crisis is to have the government pay off their mortgage, so they can buy a big-screen television for their bedroom and put a new deck in the backyard. They talk about McDonald's but, in actuality, they are more like Burger King...they want it their way!
You are SO WRONG about Cyndiee
Just because you chose to accuse her of being such and such a way doesn't make it a fact.

Cyndiee is one of the most level-headed, INTELLIGENT posters on this board.

You, on the other hand, just seem to want to pick on her and call her names. She has been on this board a long, long time and some johnny-come-lately troll is not going to change who she is just by stating some misconstrued personal opinion.

You know nothing about this person you are slinging mud at.
Cyndiee, I am sorry, you are correct, we
do not know that Mr. Obama was ever addicted to the substance. He only admitted to having used it. We do not know for how long, how often, or even if maybe he still uses from time to time.

As I read back over some articles, most read as, like you say, he was young. And of course, like all of us, we do stupid things in our youth. This makes me even more angry! I was upset with the issue about Michael Phelps and this certainly doesn't help! He was chastised because he was someone special for our youth to look up to. Is this not a double standard?

Anyway, I certainly did not mean to be slanderous, nor did I mean to change the subject. I do think Rush paid his price for his addiction, as have members of my own family. He is right about 1 thing, the pubs need a candidate!
Cyndiee, please read Matthew 28:18-20
That is the Great Comission. That is the command of Jesus to ALL of his followers. The only reason I am telling you this is because you ARE a Christian (which I rejoice in, by the way).
Cyndiee, you hang in there girl, I am
beginning to enjoy your posts. You are really sounding like a real AMERICAN GIRL! Pooey on this hate between the dems and pubs. I had a boss one time that I just could barely tolerate and had to sit right next to him every day. But, I respected his position of leadership. Mr. Bush is no longer our president, and I also respected his position of leadership as I do Mr. Obamas. That is not to say I agree with either of their policies or beliefs. As long as our country is divided by such bitterness and hate for each other just because one is a dem and one is a pub, we will never heal. We have to remember that we are ALL AMERICANS!

And just remember, everyone may not have been effected by this economy yet, but I truly believe they will feel it. I certainly would not be bragging about great everything is right now! I have grandchildren in college and, due to the market crash, we don't have near as much to worry about leaving to children and grandchildren!!
O.k..Cyndiee, 'grow a heart', will you?..sm
I am an Obama fan.
I'll miss you Cyndiee!
As one of the most thoughtful, intelligent, nonpartisan posters on this board. It is a shame that someone who is obviously unhappy in their own lives has decided to make your their target. Believe me, I feel for you. This happened to me a while back on a different board and it was very unpleasant.

I have enjoyed reading your posts and agree with you 99.9% of the time. You are a very warm, witty, insightful person and I will miss reading your posts.

What a shame that the darn trolls are spoiling this board for all of us. I have a feeling they are foreign MTs or management, trying to create divisions.

Take care of yourself and your family and when you feel strong enough, I look forward to seeing you back here. You will be sadly missed.
I hate to see you leave, Cyndiee. (sm)

Maybe you should just take a break instead.  I left for about a month, and now that I'm back, I have a little different perspective and don't get as involved as I used to.


I have enjoyed reading your posts because you DO try to be polite and find a middle ground where people can hopefully agree and discuss, instead of bash and condemn. 


Unfortunately, this board may represent a microcosm of the entire country, where people are fed up and angry and maybe a little frightened of what their futures may hold.  If we met each other on the street, we'd probably be friendly; however, the internet offers an aspect of anonymity (sp?), maybe what we see are just raw, unadulterated feelings of anger -- normal feelings, but directed at the wrong people -- people who are basically just like them.


I hope you decide to return to the board, and I hope people on this board could show a little more tolerance when dealing with the people to whom they respond, because we all ARE PEOPLE, with human feelings.


I think there are some intelligent people on this board -- both Republican and Democratic -- and who knows?  Maybe a little intelligent conversation could help to solve some of the terrible problems we face or at least let us know most of us are in the same boat, regardless of our political leanings.


Maybe you just need a break.  I hope so, and I hope to be reading your posts again soon.  Take care. 


I hate to see you leave, Cyndiee. (sm)

Maybe you should just take a break instead.  I left for about a month, and now that I'm back, I have a little different perspective and don't get as involved as I used to.


I have enjoyed reading your posts because you DO try to be polite and find a middle ground where people can hopefully agree and discuss, instead of bash and condemn. 


Unfortunately, this board may represent a microcosm of the entire country, where people are fed up and angry and maybe a little frightened of what their futures may hold.  If we met each other on the street, we'd probably be friendly; however, the internet offers an aspect of anonymity (sp?), maybe what we see are just raw, unadulterated feelings of anger -- normal feelings, but directed at the wrong people -- people who are basically just like them.


I hope you decide to return to the board, and I hope people on this board could show a little more tolerance when dealing with the people to whom they respond, because we all ARE PEOPLE, with human feelings.


I think there are some intelligent people on this board -- both Republican and Democratic -- and who knows?  Maybe a little intelligent conversation could help to solve some of the terrible problems we face or at least let us know most of us are in the same boat, regardless of our political leanings.  Bashing each other on a personal level, however, will never lead to anything that's good.


Maybe you just need a break.  I hope so, and I hope to be reading your posts again soon.  Take care. 


I enjoy reading your posts, Cyndiee (sm)
All the juvenile name calling happens when they don't have an intelligent answer to give.  Those comments fail or succeed on their own merit.  Usually, not much merit given to kindergarten tantrums.
Aacks Cyndiee - I guess I should have been more specific
in my message because I've read a lot of your posts and I agree with you most of the time.

There are however other people who don't watch a variety and only listen to the words of Olberman and Matthews and don't even listen to O'Reilly or Limbaugh but put them down. Those are whom I was talking about.

You have always presented yourself very well versed in a lot of different topics and sometimes I wish I could articulate myself as well.
I think your dad is a wise man, thanks....sm
..and if something you really wish does not happen, then it just 'was not meant to be', often to one's rescue.
Your dad was a very wise man.
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He was wise enough to
accurately assess that the country was ready to elect an African-American president, run a clean campaign and win a healthy mandate without having to resort to dirty campaign tactics, tainted election antics or manipulated/thrown court decisions that left the legitimacy of his office in question for his entire term of service.

His cabinet appointments have been very well orchestrated and reflect stragegies W could never envision, especially the part about appointments of former opponents and assemblage of such diverse points of view.

Notice I am not speculating about the future, but the rest of the world is. Check out the link below. He not only has world leaders enthused, but has also won hearts and minds of across the planet. Wonder what W's global approval rating would be? Single digits to be sure.

I'd say O is off to a pretty good start. He will be dazzling us with his brilliance (especially vis-a vis his predecessor) in short order.

http://www.economist.com/Vote2008/

she isn't wise
sorry
Maybe it would be wise...
It would be wise to at least wait for the next election day before you start to crow.
You're a very wise person.

There is a definite tendency for some posters on these boards (not so much this one) to very negatively judge a post based on who posted instead of what was contained in the post.  And you're right.  That just detracts from the entire value of the post when they do that.  (Anyone who doesn't believe me can visit the Conservative and see how they chew up and spit out those who don't assign nicknames to themselves.)


Thanks for posting and thanks for the link.


and this wise speech comes from a man

who admitted he's had too many wives, done too many drugs....and was happy to admit he inhaled.


Ahhh the credibility....


Wise Up and Get Real

I am without question loudly and proudly supporting Barack Obama.  I am not supporting him because of the color of his skin, nor am I not supporting John McCain because of the color of his skin.  I am supporting Barack Obama because he has inspired something in me.  The belief and hope and optimism that there are actually people in politics who feel as I feel and will make a difference towards that end.  The belief that people are people and that my neighbors next door and the people who live on the other side of town and the people who live in the next state and the people who live in the south and the people who live in the north all matter regardless of their ethnicities, regardless of their incomes, regardless of their education or lack thereof, regardless of whatever circumstances they have been born into.  We are all Americans and we all deserve a chance to be educated, a chance to have healthcare, a chance to have hopes and dreams, and the opportunity to work for those hopes and dreams. 


John McCain is not going to provide any of that, least of all hope.  It is actually scary that the people who are so dead-set against supporting Barack Obama are the people who would reap so much of the benefits of his presidency.  And I wonder why you don't support him?  Gee, that is such a mystery!  Yet you all go on about McCain picking a woman as his VP.  Big deal!  A woman or man can do the same job, but if you were smart you would realize it is about the right person and gender has nothing to do with smarts, compassion, fairness, hope, inclusion, and inspiration. 


Wake up or you people are going to be in the same situation 4 years from now that you are in now.   After all, how smart can you be if you voted for Bush over Gore.  And better yet, how smart can you be if you gave Bush another 4 years and actually believed the lies about Kerry.  My conscious is clear, I didn't vote for Bush.  I voted for Gore and I certainly voted for Kerry after the first horrific 4 years.  Please educate yourself and wise up.  Fear is the reason Bush is president.  Let go of it and make better decisions.     


And if you are wondering who I am, I will be happy to tell you.  I have been an MT for 5 years.  I am a single parent.  I own my own home and purchased it myself.  I have 1 son.  I homeschool him and he is above grade level in all subjects.  I  also happen to be African American and my son is of mixed race, as his biological father is Caucasian.  I state these facts loudly and proudly just as I loudly and proudly support Barack Obama the best person for the most important job in the world. 


Very wise words.
There's  hope for the younger generation yet!!
Words from the wise

Everyone loves Bill Clinton.  Every single democrat (well almost every single) democrat will praise Bill Clinton up and down.  Even D. Morris referred to him in an interview as being "the most brilliant man" (we about threw up, but we repect Morris' opinion).  He's always talked about with admiration by a great many and everything he says is true (according to a lot of the liberals).  So...here are words from the wise one.


(In an interview about Obama)


"When was the last time we elected a President based on one year of service in the senate before he started running.  He will have been a senator longer by the time if he's innaugerated.  But essentially once you start running for President full time you don't have time to do much else"


This is so so true.  How can anyone elect a person with only one year's time in Washington with no experience.  Forget who he is, who he's related to, who he associated with, and even forget the whole non-US citizen thing.


Experience.  That is what we need!  Not a bunch of "feel good" statements to make you believe he cares about you. 


I read an article that said the most rediculous campaign slogan is "Change".  Change into what?  Change into socialism?  "Change For The Worse" is a better slogan. 


"Hope".  There's another one.  Hope?  Hope for what?  Hope they don't see what I'm really about before I can mesmerize them and thell them I feel their pain and will solve all their problems.  "Hopelessness" is a better slogan.


Then his talks about changing the world?  Excuse me...we're voting for US president.  Not Global/Worldwide president.  You only have 1 year in the senate and now you think your qualified to change the whole world.  Oh yeah, I'm sure the other countries are really going to love us with that one.  They're already pretty "tanked up" that Bush is trying to change their government into the same kind we have.  Sure Obama you'll go over really well.  It doesn't surprise me though because the same people who financed Bush are financing Obama.


Sorry, I'm looking for


1.  Someone with more years experience in Washington. 


2.  I'm looking for someone who is prior military and who understands and values our troops.  Who will be able to end the war in victory and bring our troops safely home.  Someone who will not vote against a bill that will provide the funding needed to keep our troops safe.  Obama's plan doesn't tell you there will be a mass exodus to dupe everyone into believing he cares about our troops, but he'll turn right around and send them to other countries equally as dangerous, or what is worse, back to the same area but now the fighting will be worse.  He doesn't care about our troops.  He didn't even have the decency to go over there until forced into it.  And even then he only went to places where there were photo ops for him.


3.  I'm looking for someone who is going to fight for Americans (JM has and will). 


4.  I'm looking for someone whose running mate has more experience than the person running for President on the opposite side.


5.  I'm looking for someone who knows how to rebuild America.  Knows we can't just keep printing more and more money without anything to back it up.  Common economics (guess O skipped that subject in college).


6.  I'm looking for someoe who will not increase our taxes like Obama's plan will, all while sugar coating it and trying to convince us that it's good for us.


There are many many more reasons why I am for M/P over O/B, but those are just a few. 


And....seeing as Bill Clinton is considered to be one of the most intelligent persons in American I will believe his words out of his own mouth. 


Wise guys....
our founding fathers. The suggestion of separation of church and state is in the Constitution for a reason. This is not about accommodating the nonbelievers or any of your other extreme statements of protest.

Preserving religious traditions (especially Christmas) has a time and place...inside churches, in the privacy of our homes, in our faces at the malls, in restaurants, convenience stores, gas stations, smeared all over the landscape in parking lots, neighborhoods, etc.

My question to you is why is it some folks cannot tolerate religion-free zones? Injecting religous beliefs, symbols, etc can be an extremely divisive act, as we can see by your own post. Would you also mount such strong defenses, for example, on behalf of Moslem, Jewish and Buddhist invocations at the inauguration?

Many of us are sick and tired, just like you, but not for the same reason. I'm tired of having this stuff crammed down my throat and seeing it creep into the body of our laws.

Do you always get so hostile whenever somebody brings up one of the earliest and most Constitutionally protected traditions of our nation?
Your dad sounds like a wise man
and that might explain the enthusiasm of the OP (and my own). It reminds me of that novel from the 60s, Been Down So Long, It Looks Like Up To Me. The very fact that the W era will be a closed chapter FOREVER, and that we can FINALLY turn the page and come out into the light from the NeoCon nightmare is enough reason to party 'til the cows come home. I'll take "hard," even "worse," minus W with a smile on my face and another glass of Kool-Aid, please. Make mine sunny orange, please.
Well spoken, oh wise one.

I am proud to offer this suggestion to all of those who choose to ignore the fascism of the last 8 years and are frightened and terrified (and ignorant) of the idea of a black man in the White House:  America, Love It Or Leave It!  I have a few suggestions where you all can go, too! 


Yes, I too have been worried about some sort of attempt on President Obama's life before we can be rid of the Bushies, leading to an attempt by them to hold onto power forever.  However, I think they have screwed up the country so much that even THEY don't want it anymore. 


Keith is great.  The first of the mass media to speak up about the unconstitutional actions of the Bushies.  Why was the rest of the media so frightened? 


On a bright note, I suspect that Bush's appointment by the Supreme Court was our Thermopolis Pass moment in history:  Bush's appointment led indirectly to the election of Obama, as the defeat of the Spartans at Thermopylae led to the rise of democracy in Greece, just as the rise of fascism in America has led to the resurgence of democracy in our great country. 


Now, back to taunting Mr. 644 and the Evil Q! 


Because investors are getting wise to the whole
Count me OUT 4-ever.
Thanks, Sis! (Cheese it, though - someone might get wise.)
Tell Mom I'll be home for Mother's Day.
Gee, O's doing great $$ wise.

Besides his salary as President and his expense account, he made over $2 million on his book sales so far. Maybe he will share the wealth? NOT!. The rules for the little people don't pertain to him.


Just goes to show everyone doesn't become wise with age. nm
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Very wise post - you are right on with how I feel
And so many of us out there. His calming demeanor...yes most definitely. He has a soothing and reassuring voice. If I was in an accident or something like that his voice would be very reassuring and calming, but everything else I agree with you.

I loved your post. Thanks.
It is wise to broaden one's mind..... sm
but not to the point that one's brains fall out.

I was not attempting to retract a statement, unsuccessfully or otherwise. I was illustrating the point that the statement needed to be taken in context.
That's a very wise place to get facts.

A spot called Killfile? They are blogs from people, not news reports. One-sided views just like everyone on this board complains about. I followed the link and it went to "outtheotherear". Another blog. Checked out the 3 writers. They really caught my eye:


Longing good candy, cool toys and up to date television, Mike and his family came back to Lockport in 1999. There he attended high school and reacquainted himself with the American Way. A “conspiracy theorist” teacher at Lockport High introduced him to politics and suggested that China might become important someday in the near future; he has been hooked on both subjects ever since.


Mike recently graduated from SUNY Geneseo with a BA in International Relations and minors in Asian Studies and History. In place of playing make-believe with Model United Nations and organizing with Democracy Matters, he now spends his free time blogging and looking for the next step in life. He spent the summer and fall working as an organizing fellow and Field Organizer for the Obama campaign in Ohio and Pennsylvania.



Marc is very passionate about environmental, media, rural issues and issues of rural culture. He also feels it is his duty to keep other blogs held accountable. While he’s probably doing it a service in terms of credibility, his continual attacks will probably not leave him loved in the blogosphere.


Kate was born and raised in a dying industrial town in Upstate New York, an area she sees as a microcosm for a majority of America’s many detriments and successes. After earning a degree in History and American Studies, concentrating on Environmental and Native American History, she decided to try out state politics. Hating office work with every fiber of her being, she went back to school and is currently a graduate student, studying for her Master’s in Journalism and is the web Editor for Jerk Magazine, an independent Syracuse University student-run publication. She writes mainly about the inadequacy of mainstream media reporting.


I think you should stop flooding this board with blogs. They are one person opinions.


Words of the wise from one of the greatest men in history
I wish more people were interested in all that our founding fathers did for us.
Also: Penny wise and pound foolish?
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Also: Penny wise and pound foolish?


What good to reduce out carbon footprint when China and India won't, and if it bankrupts our whole nation?


the scorn of a fool is music to the ears of a wise man.
vive la Israel!
Wise choice on your part - and poor judgement on O's! nm
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Just trying to be logical, but I doubt security wise that would be a good idea.
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He got a look when Biden was making wise cracks about Justice Roberts at the swearing in. sm
I think when he is under stress he has a hard time hiding how he feels, but I think it is more a sign that he is honest about his feelings, not that he is going to act out in some crazy way.
LOL...I mean **woman**!

Mrs. M, are you a woman?
I'm kind of doubting this, based on Mrs. M's preoccupation with various women's looks.
Who was this woman?

An eagle also needs to land sooner or later. Barak is neither left or right. Yes, he does lean a bit to the left, but for years we've had Bush lean to the extreme right thanks to his righteous evangelical radicals. This scares me a lot more. Please read and enlighten yourselves. Those of you who are still undecided are to be pitied. This campaign has been going on for so long, if you still don't know who to vote for....I would say you have a hell of a problem. Take your blinders off, Falwell is dead and I wish Limbaugh was too. The American people have brainwashed themselves and they like it. There are other great countries in the world, not just the U.S. They are proud patriots also and believe their country is the best. So wake up, READ about history and other countries. I live in a country that I would bet hardly of you know, let alone the capital. The country is called Canada and the capital is Ottawa. I too am proud of my country and I think IT IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!  Stop listening to those stupid radio talk shows who are nearly all republican........get a life. Vote for Barack, my God you folks need a change!!!


Monique


 


that woman is a ...........sm
stupid, FUGLY, racist BIATCH!
So a woman has a right to

abort with no questions asked because it is her uterus and no one's business.  Yet you wish to take away the rights of people who don't believe in abortion and work in the medical field.  No job should require you to do something that you find unethical.  If you want to abort your child....fine....that is your decision and one that you will have to answer for and live with.  So many people are on here screaming about their rights and how dare their rights be taken away.  Forcing someone in the medical field to be involved in something they feel is unethical......isn't that taking away their rights.  They have a right to refuse.  There are other people in the medical field who would willingly perform an abortion....so why force those who find it unethical?  That is just wrong. 


A better woman?
OMG!  Do even know what a better woman is?   I will tell you - one who can say he** with that SOB rapist, I'm living my life my way and moving on!    You sound more angry than I do?   Have you lived your life to the fullest without being taken advantage of?  Are you happy?  Is it easier for you to point fingers and say what others should do?   I am a very happy person who believes bad things sometimes happen to good people.  This has nothing to do with being a better or stronger woman.  
O was wise ... wait... wait... I'm rolling in the aisle.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Osamabama 'distances' himself from every lame association he ever had with his rat pack of radical nut job friends.

And if he's lucky enough to get elected, he's going to distance himself from his fawning flock as soon as his advisors tell him there's no way in hades to pay for his free po'folk tax cuts he promised without throwing the economy into the tank.
American Woman
American Woman, Dont leave, Im the one *they*, whomever (I frankly dont care..smile) tried to ban..Im the one they reported like back in grade school..oooohhhh..gonna tell the teacher..Im still here and NO ONE is gonna get rid of me or my opinions or beliefs unless they ban me and then I will move onto another political board..Dont leave, American Woman..I enjoy your posts and think you are an intelligent person who shows she cares through her posts..We need that here..heck if you leave, I probably will end up leaving, so will Lurker, Observer and all the rest and then what will become of this board..Please stay..Ya know what I do when it gets too much, I spend a half hour or so on Bill Mahers board (they are so friendly)..What you post about is the truth in America, dont deny others of reading the truth that you post..Please stay.