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Well spoken, oh wise one.

Posted By: Oracle on 2009-01-17
In Reply to: Bush Presidency - eight years in eight minutes - Marmann

I am proud to offer this suggestion to all of those who choose to ignore the fascism of the last 8 years and are frightened and terrified (and ignorant) of the idea of a black man in the White House:  America, Love It Or Leave It!  I have a few suggestions where you all can go, too! 


Yes, I too have been worried about some sort of attempt on President Obama's life before we can be rid of the Bushies, leading to an attempt by them to hold onto power forever.  However, I think they have screwed up the country so much that even THEY don't want it anymore. 


Keith is great.  The first of the mass media to speak up about the unconstitutional actions of the Bushies.  Why was the rest of the media so frightened? 


On a bright note, I suspect that Bush's appointment by the Supreme Court was our Thermopolis Pass moment in history:  Bush's appointment led indirectly to the election of Obama, as the defeat of the Spartans at Thermopylae led to the rise of democracy in Greece, just as the rise of fascism in America has led to the resurgence of democracy in our great country. 


Now, back to taunting Mr. 644 and the Evil Q! 




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I think your dad is a wise man, thanks....sm
..and if something you really wish does not happen, then it just 'was not meant to be', often to one's rescue.
Your dad was a very wise man.
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He was wise enough to
accurately assess that the country was ready to elect an African-American president, run a clean campaign and win a healthy mandate without having to resort to dirty campaign tactics, tainted election antics or manipulated/thrown court decisions that left the legitimacy of his office in question for his entire term of service.

His cabinet appointments have been very well orchestrated and reflect stragegies W could never envision, especially the part about appointments of former opponents and assemblage of such diverse points of view.

Notice I am not speculating about the future, but the rest of the world is. Check out the link below. He not only has world leaders enthused, but has also won hearts and minds of across the planet. Wonder what W's global approval rating would be? Single digits to be sure.

I'd say O is off to a pretty good start. He will be dazzling us with his brilliance (especially vis-a vis his predecessor) in short order.

http://www.economist.com/Vote2008/

she isn't wise
sorry
Maybe it would be wise...
It would be wise to at least wait for the next election day before you start to crow.
You're a very wise person.

There is a definite tendency for some posters on these boards (not so much this one) to very negatively judge a post based on who posted instead of what was contained in the post.  And you're right.  That just detracts from the entire value of the post when they do that.  (Anyone who doesn't believe me can visit the Conservative and see how they chew up and spit out those who don't assign nicknames to themselves.)


Thanks for posting and thanks for the link.


and this wise speech comes from a man

who admitted he's had too many wives, done too many drugs....and was happy to admit he inhaled.


Ahhh the credibility....


Wise Up and Get Real

I am without question loudly and proudly supporting Barack Obama.  I am not supporting him because of the color of his skin, nor am I not supporting John McCain because of the color of his skin.  I am supporting Barack Obama because he has inspired something in me.  The belief and hope and optimism that there are actually people in politics who feel as I feel and will make a difference towards that end.  The belief that people are people and that my neighbors next door and the people who live on the other side of town and the people who live in the next state and the people who live in the south and the people who live in the north all matter regardless of their ethnicities, regardless of their incomes, regardless of their education or lack thereof, regardless of whatever circumstances they have been born into.  We are all Americans and we all deserve a chance to be educated, a chance to have healthcare, a chance to have hopes and dreams, and the opportunity to work for those hopes and dreams. 


John McCain is not going to provide any of that, least of all hope.  It is actually scary that the people who are so dead-set against supporting Barack Obama are the people who would reap so much of the benefits of his presidency.  And I wonder why you don't support him?  Gee, that is such a mystery!  Yet you all go on about McCain picking a woman as his VP.  Big deal!  A woman or man can do the same job, but if you were smart you would realize it is about the right person and gender has nothing to do with smarts, compassion, fairness, hope, inclusion, and inspiration. 


Wake up or you people are going to be in the same situation 4 years from now that you are in now.   After all, how smart can you be if you voted for Bush over Gore.  And better yet, how smart can you be if you gave Bush another 4 years and actually believed the lies about Kerry.  My conscious is clear, I didn't vote for Bush.  I voted for Gore and I certainly voted for Kerry after the first horrific 4 years.  Please educate yourself and wise up.  Fear is the reason Bush is president.  Let go of it and make better decisions.     


And if you are wondering who I am, I will be happy to tell you.  I have been an MT for 5 years.  I am a single parent.  I own my own home and purchased it myself.  I have 1 son.  I homeschool him and he is above grade level in all subjects.  I  also happen to be African American and my son is of mixed race, as his biological father is Caucasian.  I state these facts loudly and proudly just as I loudly and proudly support Barack Obama the best person for the most important job in the world. 


Very wise words.
There's  hope for the younger generation yet!!
Words from the wise

Everyone loves Bill Clinton.  Every single democrat (well almost every single) democrat will praise Bill Clinton up and down.  Even D. Morris referred to him in an interview as being "the most brilliant man" (we about threw up, but we repect Morris' opinion).  He's always talked about with admiration by a great many and everything he says is true (according to a lot of the liberals).  So...here are words from the wise one.


(In an interview about Obama)


"When was the last time we elected a President based on one year of service in the senate before he started running.  He will have been a senator longer by the time if he's innaugerated.  But essentially once you start running for President full time you don't have time to do much else"


This is so so true.  How can anyone elect a person with only one year's time in Washington with no experience.  Forget who he is, who he's related to, who he associated with, and even forget the whole non-US citizen thing.


Experience.  That is what we need!  Not a bunch of "feel good" statements to make you believe he cares about you. 


I read an article that said the most rediculous campaign slogan is "Change".  Change into what?  Change into socialism?  "Change For The Worse" is a better slogan. 


"Hope".  There's another one.  Hope?  Hope for what?  Hope they don't see what I'm really about before I can mesmerize them and thell them I feel their pain and will solve all their problems.  "Hopelessness" is a better slogan.


Then his talks about changing the world?  Excuse me...we're voting for US president.  Not Global/Worldwide president.  You only have 1 year in the senate and now you think your qualified to change the whole world.  Oh yeah, I'm sure the other countries are really going to love us with that one.  They're already pretty "tanked up" that Bush is trying to change their government into the same kind we have.  Sure Obama you'll go over really well.  It doesn't surprise me though because the same people who financed Bush are financing Obama.


Sorry, I'm looking for


1.  Someone with more years experience in Washington. 


2.  I'm looking for someone who is prior military and who understands and values our troops.  Who will be able to end the war in victory and bring our troops safely home.  Someone who will not vote against a bill that will provide the funding needed to keep our troops safe.  Obama's plan doesn't tell you there will be a mass exodus to dupe everyone into believing he cares about our troops, but he'll turn right around and send them to other countries equally as dangerous, or what is worse, back to the same area but now the fighting will be worse.  He doesn't care about our troops.  He didn't even have the decency to go over there until forced into it.  And even then he only went to places where there were photo ops for him.


3.  I'm looking for someone who is going to fight for Americans (JM has and will). 


4.  I'm looking for someone whose running mate has more experience than the person running for President on the opposite side.


5.  I'm looking for someone who knows how to rebuild America.  Knows we can't just keep printing more and more money without anything to back it up.  Common economics (guess O skipped that subject in college).


6.  I'm looking for someoe who will not increase our taxes like Obama's plan will, all while sugar coating it and trying to convince us that it's good for us.


There are many many more reasons why I am for M/P over O/B, but those are just a few. 


And....seeing as Bill Clinton is considered to be one of the most intelligent persons in American I will believe his words out of his own mouth. 


Wise guys....
our founding fathers. The suggestion of separation of church and state is in the Constitution for a reason. This is not about accommodating the nonbelievers or any of your other extreme statements of protest.

Preserving religious traditions (especially Christmas) has a time and place...inside churches, in the privacy of our homes, in our faces at the malls, in restaurants, convenience stores, gas stations, smeared all over the landscape in parking lots, neighborhoods, etc.

My question to you is why is it some folks cannot tolerate religion-free zones? Injecting religous beliefs, symbols, etc can be an extremely divisive act, as we can see by your own post. Would you also mount such strong defenses, for example, on behalf of Moslem, Jewish and Buddhist invocations at the inauguration?

Many of us are sick and tired, just like you, but not for the same reason. I'm tired of having this stuff crammed down my throat and seeing it creep into the body of our laws.

Do you always get so hostile whenever somebody brings up one of the earliest and most Constitutionally protected traditions of our nation?
Your dad sounds like a wise man
and that might explain the enthusiasm of the OP (and my own). It reminds me of that novel from the 60s, Been Down So Long, It Looks Like Up To Me. The very fact that the W era will be a closed chapter FOREVER, and that we can FINALLY turn the page and come out into the light from the NeoCon nightmare is enough reason to party 'til the cows come home. I'll take "hard," even "worse," minus W with a smile on my face and another glass of Kool-Aid, please. Make mine sunny orange, please.
Because investors are getting wise to the whole
Count me OUT 4-ever.
Thanks, Sis! (Cheese it, though - someone might get wise.)
Tell Mom I'll be home for Mother's Day.
Gee, O's doing great $$ wise.

Besides his salary as President and his expense account, he made over $2 million on his book sales so far. Maybe he will share the wealth? NOT!. The rules for the little people don't pertain to him.


Just goes to show everyone doesn't become wise with age. nm
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Very wise post - you are right on with how I feel
And so many of us out there. His calming demeanor...yes most definitely. He has a soothing and reassuring voice. If I was in an accident or something like that his voice would be very reassuring and calming, but everything else I agree with you.

I loved your post. Thanks.
It is wise to broaden one's mind..... sm
but not to the point that one's brains fall out.

I was not attempting to retract a statement, unsuccessfully or otherwise. I was illustrating the point that the statement needed to be taken in context.
Cyndiee, you are a very wise woman.
I have been reading your posts here and on the Faith board, and I must say that you are a breath of fresh air. My hat is off to you!
That's a very wise place to get facts.

A spot called Killfile? They are blogs from people, not news reports. One-sided views just like everyone on this board complains about. I followed the link and it went to "outtheotherear". Another blog. Checked out the 3 writers. They really caught my eye:


Longing good candy, cool toys and up to date television, Mike and his family came back to Lockport in 1999. There he attended high school and reacquainted himself with the American Way. A “conspiracy theorist” teacher at Lockport High introduced him to politics and suggested that China might become important someday in the near future; he has been hooked on both subjects ever since.


Mike recently graduated from SUNY Geneseo with a BA in International Relations and minors in Asian Studies and History. In place of playing make-believe with Model United Nations and organizing with Democracy Matters, he now spends his free time blogging and looking for the next step in life. He spent the summer and fall working as an organizing fellow and Field Organizer for the Obama campaign in Ohio and Pennsylvania.



Marc is very passionate about environmental, media, rural issues and issues of rural culture. He also feels it is his duty to keep other blogs held accountable. While he’s probably doing it a service in terms of credibility, his continual attacks will probably not leave him loved in the blogosphere.


Kate was born and raised in a dying industrial town in Upstate New York, an area she sees as a microcosm for a majority of America’s many detriments and successes. After earning a degree in History and American Studies, concentrating on Environmental and Native American History, she decided to try out state politics. Hating office work with every fiber of her being, she went back to school and is currently a graduate student, studying for her Master’s in Journalism and is the web Editor for Jerk Magazine, an independent Syracuse University student-run publication. She writes mainly about the inadequacy of mainstream media reporting.


I think you should stop flooding this board with blogs. They are one person opinions.


Spoken by a true a**
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spoken by someone who KNOWS, I suppose....
so sorry I am not up on methods of drug delivery. Sorry. It was cocaine my mistake. He snorted cocaine. He called it "blow" in his book. So I stand corrected...Obama snorted COCAINE, not CRACK. Make you feel better????
Spoken by somebody who KNOWS how to RESEARCH.
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It is because the great "O" has spoken...
and anything else is a lie. LOL. They've seen behind the curtain and know the truth but it doesn't matter. This is one strange phenomenon. lol.
That's right, the people have spoken and
Obama is our next president.
The people have spoken now and

they still aren't listening.


It's not a matter of pubs or dems. Our voices should be heard, but there are too many politicians who are deaf. I think we should all donate $1 to buy hearing aids for them all.


Words of the wise from one of the greatest men in history
I wish more people were interested in all that our founding fathers did for us.
Also: Penny wise and pound foolish?
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Also: Penny wise and pound foolish?


What good to reduce out carbon footprint when China and India won't, and if it bankrupts our whole nation?


Spoken by the true whiner that you are. By the way sm

Do you have an abortion to have an opinion about it. So that means that all prochoice people have had abortions or else they would not have an opinion, right? 


Until you've been killed by an Islamic terrorist you have no right to complain?


If you are against this war why don't you fly to Iraq and tell Abu Musab al-Zarqawi to surrender?


If you hate the war so much, why aren't you acting as a human shield?

Funny. I don't remember you complaining back when Clinton was bombing the hell out of Iraq in '98.


Spoken as a true partisan.

No, spoken TO a true partisan

Only the conservatives on these boards fail to open their eyes and be objective when it comes to Bush and his actions.  They're obviously partisan conservatives.


However, the people who continue to defend Bennett after Bush himself condemned Bennett's statement... well, there's a name for them, as well.


I think we're starting to see a divide in the conservative party.  Those who just blindly follow Bush, unwilling or unable to see what's really happening, and the more sinister, dangerous, racist group who wouldn't mind seeing all black babies aborted.  Those who insist on defending Bennett are emphasizing that distinction, which is a good thing.  Let these people reveal themselves for what they really are.


I guess God himself has spoken to you and informed you
that the rapture will pass Lilly by.

Everyone tune in Divinity is speaking on the chat board tonight.

Joke!
Spoken like a true leader...nm

spoken by the grammar police.
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The Church of the Self-Righteous Has Spoken

I don't care what anyone believes or practices - freedom of religion 


It's the freaks who think THEIR religion is the ONLY RIGHT religion who scare me.


Even Jesus was a liberal.


spoken like a true liberal....lol...nm
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No Truer Words Were Ever Spoken
During this election year let's be reminded of these words:
 * You cannot help the poor, by destroying the rich.
* You cannot strengthen the weak, by weakening the strong.
* You cannot bring about prosperity, by discouraging thrift.
* You cannot lift the wage earner up, by pulling the wage payer down.
* You cannot further the brotherhood of man, by inciting class hatred.
* You cannot build character and courage, by taking away men's initiative
and independence.
* You cannot help men permanently, by doing for them what they could and
should, do for themselves.
Do you recognize the author?
It was Abraham Lincoln
Very, very wise words, written years ago and we still don't get it.....
Spoken like a truly twisted fool nm
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You have spoken out against O'Reilly frequently...
polls do prove more and more people are listening to him, so that must be saying something about how they are truly feeling about Obama and it AIN'T positive.

For the most part, people who voted for him are NOT happy with what he is doing. I can name 10 neighbors on one side of my cul-de-sac alone who voted for Obama and is now regretting that vote. They have seen exactly where all this debt is heading, straight to their wallets and they definitely don't make 250K or more a year. It is going to grab them elsewhere but tax them to death none the less. If that's 10 out of my small cul-de-sac alone, I won't even bother to tell you how many at our community pool over several blocks of our neighbors are now openly regretting their vote.

They are definitely not happy with how he is handling anything because he isn't capable of handling anything..... he's nothing more than a puppet and someone else is pulling his strings.

If he gets healthcare reform through, you won't have to worry about who gets in the white house, because you'll be too taxed to death to care.
Spoken like a true extremist....(nm)

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the scorn of a fool is music to the ears of a wise man.
vive la Israel!
Wise choice on your part - and poor judgement on O's! nm
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Nicer? Spoken by the queen of the horrific! sm
Let's get this straight gt, the most horrible things said on either board have been said by none other than you.  I am absolutely convinced that you are using many different names to post under.  The rage that is inside of you just is too easy to spot.  Several other posters have said the same.  No one, and I mean NO ONE comes close to your hatefulness.
Spoken like a true blue member of the
Rah! Rah! Sis-boom-blah!
Spoken like a true BDD party faithful...
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Yes, I suppose you've spoken with all of Gitmo
they have told you personally they are ALL INNOCENT......pure as the driven snow....

please stop regurgitating

And by the way, while you're so busy informing yourself, you need to check out old lady Pelosi.....she's about to take away Obama's power to make any presidential decisions.......you up to date on that one? And now, even the most butt head democrats are beginning to open their eyes to her!


No, am not being racist by not liking how words are spoken
If so then would be against my racially mixed family. I do not like hearing ebonics, I do not care for certain dialects. I am able to say this because I live in America. I do not see hypocrisy in being able to say how I feel. Oh, I do feel the cartoon is racist. How many times have black folks been referred to in that same vein. Certainly it is.
Spoken from a true MSNBC stooge
Pathetic???? As Bones from Star Trek would say "My God Man"...turn on your TV. Turn it off of MSNBC and get some real news. ALL channels are covering it. Except MSLSD and not sure about CNN. No real news there so I never watch it.

Thousands upon thousands upon thousands all over the countries. And they are not even showing the smaller towns.

Wake up and at least try and act a little patriotic and show that you actually care about the country and the direction we are headed.
Just trying to be logical, but I doubt security wise that would be a good idea.
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spoken like a true freedom of speech liberal....NOT.
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