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Doesn't this belong on the racism board? Sick of hearing it. nm

Posted By: MeMT on 2008-10-23
In Reply to: Can you say "racist?" - Holy Moly

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sick of hearing he was
only 8 years old when Ayers was making bombs. I was about 8 when Charles Manson and his goons killed Sharon Tate and others. I don't feel like sending old Charley a birthday card let alone sitting in his living room or jailcell in his case.As far as I am concerned Ayers should be in jail too!
I am so sick and tired of hearing...

how republicans are at fault for everything.  Yes, President Bush is republican but don't we have a democrat congress?  What have then done to help better things?


I'm neither republican or democrat.  I always try to pick the person I feel is best for the job.  However, I learned a long time ago that a politician will say almost anything to get elected.  Yes, Obama has many plans, but realistically how many of these plans will actually work, be put into works if he is elected, or just a bunch of smoke he is blowing up our rear ends to get elected. 


I was watching a show on TV the other night that showed politicians during an election year and one of the things consistently brought up by many was the need to decrease our dependency on oil.  This went all the way back to even before Carter was president.  After these politicians were elected, not one of them did anything about decreasing our dependency on oil.  Politicians will bring up any subject worth bringing up during an election year to get the backing of people, but once they win.....they don't have to do half of what they promised to do.


I am sooo sick of hearing...
that Obama will do things "because he's black."  What kind of reasoning is this?  Did we forget that he's just as much white as he is black?  What makes him more black than he is white?  Did anyone notice that he was raised in a white environment, with little contact with his father?  Is he not a product of his environment?  Calling this man black OR white discredits his heritage and does nothing but show the racism that is so obviously alive and well in the US! 
I too am sick of hearing all this - see message
Okay, I'll be the first to admit. This is important (I don't consider it historic - it is just basically important. Well now that I think of it I don't think it's important, it is just that its the first time a black man has been given (no not voted in...given) the job). Okay, so...this is notable that we have a soon to be (tomorrow) black president. Should there be a celebration. Yes. Should there be a celebration each time a new president is elected. Yes. Should Obama be treated differently than a white man who would take office. No he should not. That's where it should stop. The disgust that I feel when our country is in a recession (soon to be depression) and he's spending what? 170 million on his coronation. This is outrageous and a disgusting display of self-indulgence.

On Thursday I started seeing stations reporting on the coronation. Then Friday more and more stations. Even HBO has the corononation of Obama.

So here you have it. A country full of people who have lost their jobs, are in the process of losing their jobs, states (California in particular) that can't afford to pay the citizens their tax refunds and are sending them I.O.U.'s, people losing houses, people who can't even afford to buy food or medicine they need and here comes along our newly appointed president who is supposed to be for the people and he's spending over $170 million on himself. If he cared about the country at all he would say, hey, let's keep it to $100 million and take the other $70 million and put it back into the economy. At least it would feed a lot of people in the soup kitchens, help people stay in their houses a little bit longer, etc, etc, etc. (Can't he have a decent coronation on $100 million?) No instead he's sitting back revelling in the fact that everyone is making a big deal about his race.

Excuse me, but when he was campaigning against Hillary and John he kept saying, it's not about race, it's not about race. It's about you. He kept trying to take the focus off his race and put the focus on us. Now he's elected and all I hear is race, race, race, and it's all about me. Me, me, me. I'm the first black man, this is historic, my black ancestors, black, black, black, me, me, me. Every single speech he has given he's talked about his race.

Can you tell I am just sick, sick, sick of it.

This is supposed to be an inaugeration (not a coronation), and this "inaugeration" should be the same as any other newly incoming president. Would we have seen this if Hillary was elected. No. Well we would have to some extend but not like this. Would we have seen it if McCain/Palin (the first woman ever to become VP) - Do you even have to ask. That would be a big NO! Heck they'd probably even make her pay for everything herself.

I didn't vote for either. I voted for Chuck Baldwin (Constitution party). So I was not happy with either choice and it's not like I wanted one over the other. I knew Chuck Baldwin had no chance whatsoever of winning, but I didn't want either so it was a vote against both of them.

However, back to the original point. I am so sick of the constant coverage invading the TV set that the TV is not even going on. I've got lots of books I want to catch up on and I've got a good library of DVDs to watch.

So, we're in a recession/depression. People losing jobs, home, can't eat and here we have Mr. Obama spending $170 million. The most expensive inaugeration in history. Which means we will now have increased our deficit by at least $170 million. That's right who's going to pay for this. Who else - the taxpayers. Way to go Mr. Obama, haven't stepped foot in and you've already increased our deficit. But I know, I know....it's Bush's fault.
I'm sick to death of hearing the unfairness
When the majority of crimes committed in our community are by the black population, what should we do? Say, oh my goodness, you're black....we'll just pretend you didn't just kill someone on the corner in a driveby shooting or enter your elderly neighbor's house and shoot them dead cause you want what ain't yours....or a real good one....hide in the bushes of my neighbor's house, he drives up from work, and has a gun put to his temple and forced back into his car to the nearest ATM, where he was so fortunate to escape and run into a nearby store. To which, our black police chief hid the information and the local TV/paper didn't even know this happened until another neighbor call the TV/newspaper and gave them the details.

Or the AT&T cell phone center that just opened only to have OVER $20000 worth of phone stolen by several black men, who were seen running from the store by other blacks who reported them to the police. No, I'll just put my head in the sand and pretend I don't know the facts simply because we now have a black president. BTW, when many blacks attending COLLEGE were asked who they think would have the greatest influence on the young blacks would be, Obama or a black rapper, guess what their answer was? Clue: It WASN'T Obama. Yea, Obama will just turn those folks right around and show the bad ones the correct way to live. IN YOUR DREAMS!
The myth of the Clinton surplus...I'm a libertarian but I am sick of hearing this..SM
http://www.letxa.com/articles/16
Sorry, but we're sick of hearing about your Sarah phobia and hatred. nm

And we're sick of hearing about your Barack phobia and hatred
You betcha!
Keep it in church - it doesn't belong in government.
their unwavering belief, Christians are NOT the center-of-the-Universe.
Your CHURCH doesn't belong in America's
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Religion doesn't belong in politics, Church-lady.
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Racism on this board? Not fair to assume that.
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Everyone on this board jumps on racism, bigotry
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But you are on the politic board - enjoy your hearing your opinion
I'd like to know how you feel about the stimulus package (p.s. - you are on the political board HA HA)

As for Bush/Gore. The country always has been run by whoever wins the delegates is elected. Back then Gore may have had the popular vote (why I have no idea), but Bush had the electoral votes. I don't get it. Every single election if the crats are ahead in electoral votes they boast about following the laws, but if they are not ahead in electoral votes and are ahead in popular vote they try to change the rules and make it law that whoever has popular vote wins and not electoral. It's happened every single election.

But would like to hear your opinion on the stimulus plan.

I am addressing racism in general & some of the racial words that were used on this board earlier (s
I am not an Obama supporter specifically because of his pastor's racial biases against white people and because I disagree with Obama's stance on partial birth abortion. I am against racism in all forms. I am against Obama's terrorist friends, I am very unhappy about the church Obama attended for 20 years. I am voting for McCain ONLY to vote against Obama because I do not want him to be our president. Both candidates have a lot of bad history & I wish there was another option. However, I love people of all races. You are making this into a racial election. I want to leave racial terms like "towelhead" and "oreo" and "halfbreed" off of this board. Do you find those words necessary to make your points? If so, your vocabulary and mind are obviously very limited.
When he said we do not belong there he was

and about Bush's bogus war against a country that never attacked us and had nothing to do with the Taliban.  Bush started out pretending to want to get bin Laden.  Remember wanted, dead or alive?  He then quickly abandoned that and focused on the fake war in Iraq because he obviously didn't want to get Usama Bin Laden, dead or alive.


Obama instead said we need to focus on Usama Bin Laden because he was the one who was responsible for 9/11.


**A worsening war in Afghanistan — and a growing Taliban and al-Qaida insurgency in the tribal areas of nuclear-armed neighboring Pakistan — will loom large on the agenda for President-elect Barack Obama during the next four years.


On the campaign trail, Obama argued that the war in Iraq has drained troops and resources from the battlefield in Afghanistan, causing the situation there to deteriorate. He has described Afghanistan as "the war we need to win," and he has pledged to send at least two more brigades of U.S. troops to reinforce the 70,000 U.S. and NATO forces already serving in the country.


Obama has also pledged to press NATO allies to contribute more forces, and he has said he will step up training for the Afghan army and police, as well as increase non-military aid to Afghanistan by $1 billion.


"When I am president, we will wage the war that has to be won," Obama vowed, outlining his plans in an Aug. 1, 2007, speech at the Wilson Center in Washington, D.C. "(But) the first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan." **


 


beware of any of them who belong to the CFR

Obama was asked if his wife was a member of the Counsel of Foreign Affairs and I saw him refuse to answer more than once.....


Go research this CFR organization......you'll see - as I read it - it's involved with the New World Order........New American Century and all that jazz.....scary, to tell ya the truth.....as a liberal -


 


Well said. I don't belong to either party.
I just hope that the country can survive the 4 years. If Obama doesn't tax and spend us into a real depression or turn us into Venezuela north, perhaps it will.

But at least I will have the small comfort in knowing I had nothing to do with putting him in the White House.
Who does Israel belong to? So you are saying

the U.N. overstepped its bounds?  And what about the United Kingdom that controlled the area in the early 1900s? 


Like it or not nations are formed through civil war.  There are winners and there are losers.  It's really very simple.  The process has not changed for centuries and it will never change.  The strong prevail.  The righteous prevail. The minute we take a liberal viewpoint, that's the exact minute we become weak. 


Maybe it was deleted because it didn't belong there. sm
And also because it does not address the post you reference at all!  Many of his posts still remain, so this is just silly. 
The 'inexperienced boobs' belong to
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Both my daughers belong to a service
organization that does things in the community year round. In fact, my oldest daughter got a scholarship at a private college mainly because of her community service. I believe that community service teaches our young people to give something back to the community to help those less fortunate. It is a very good plan in my opinion.
... and half of them belong in JAIL.

Thank you. Then you admit these posts DO belong
Appreciate the support.
those people need to stay where they belong
who are they to want a better life
Denial is where we belong in the face of such lies.
you cannot turn these lies into truth.
Broodmares belong in back alleys with coathangers or
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Ayers is a jerk. He & his wife belong in jail.
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Bible scripture does not belong on the politics forum.
Please keep your religious beliefs to the faith forum where it belongs.
Bible scripture does not belong on the politics forum.
Please keep your religious beliefs and Bible verses on the faith forum where it belongs.
Ayers doesn't regret the bombings, doesn't feel like they did enough sm

In a story that appeared in the Times on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, Ayers told a reporter while promoting his memoir "Fugitive Days": "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."


Mr. Ayers, now a professor of education in Chicago, was a founder of the Weather Underground, which bombed government buildings in the early 1970s. He was indicted on conspiracy charges that were thrown out for prosecutorial misconduct.


He served with Mr. Obama on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, a charitable organization, and, along with his wife, the former Weather Underground member Bernardine Dohrn, hosted Mr. Obama at his home in 1995 when he was running for state office.


Mr. Obama has called Mr. Ayers "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old."...so because it was 40 years ago, and Ayers is still proud of what he did, how is it justifiable for a US presidential candidate to now be friends with this man?  Unless he has the same view of America.


hearing a lot
Reporters do hear a lot. What they don't do is think a lot. A corporation, lobbyist or politican speaks, and they faithfully write it down without ever questioning the truth or intent of the information they've been given (scrunching up your brow to look like you're "asking the tough questions" doesn't count). They're the best transcriptionists in the business!
Let me rephrase that. It doesn't *seem like* my vote doesn't count...sm
It does not count because its in the bag that our 3 electoral votes will go to the republican party.
One of the reasons you are not hearing as much sm
about the Republicans, especially the current administration, is that they have been very effective at almost completely shutting up any voices of dissent. When Clinton was in office we heard about him nonstop.
I'm hearing that a lot today
I've been all over the internet today and everywhere I go I'm seeing woman who feel like McCain is being condescending to women by throwing out this nobody who is ruby red as they come and expecting to get women voters just because of it, especially Hillary followers. These women are insulted and now finally have both feet firmly on the Obama train.
I read this too after hearing that he had...sm
orchestrated the negative ads this last week, now he is saying he disapproves? Maybe this is a tactic to deflect our attention? Very suspicous. Since when does he have a consious?
Well, instead of hearing why don't you read
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Actually, what I remember hearing about was ....sm
that it would be like our own personal savings account. I would much rather have that, than have the govt have their hands in my SS pocket, using my SS as they have been doing, and putting the IOU away in a drawer somewhere.

Not sure what his current plan is or if it has changed, but if I get to control my own SS money, I'm all for it.





http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/17/mccain-social-security/
There is no hearing today.
Your statement here is patently inaccurate. The SC is not taking the case. For the sake of not wasting too much time on this fairy tale, I am posting this article link that can explain that better than I can.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/12/05/supreme-court-not-considering-obamas-birth-certificate-case/

You will notice that the article clearly states that the merits of the claims will not be heard (essentially because there are no merits).

For an excellent explanation on the Supreme courts porn king/sexually harassing above-the-law judge's motivations for his "lone wolf" move to attempt to shove this nonsense down the throats of his fellow jurists, read this:
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/83953

Here is an excellent article that discussed the underlying pathology of conspiracy theorists:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/12/05/birth_certificate/

You are mistaken about the timing of this "knowledge." Unfortunately, the citizens of this country learned of this lunacy long before the Nausea or vomiting 4 election. In fact, Berg's lawsuit emerged the minute it became apparent that Hillary was not going to win in the primaries (08/22/2008). Andy Martin's failed action occurred 10/17/2008. Steven Marquis' impotent attempt occurred on 10/18/2008. David Neal's action fell flat on its face 10/24/2008. Your delusional statement about "many people" is a fabrication that I notice you have not backed up with any sort of credible source.

There is no truth to fight for, fool. The conspiracy theorists who are the driving force behind this abomination are scam bags who are picking your pockets to keep this stupidity alive....and you are marching lock-step alongside one another and coughing up.

The rest of the stuff you have included in your post is nothing more that regurgitation of garbage that has been answered at least a thousand times already. My advice to you is not to hold your breath waiting for the SC justices to show the same sort of self-serving interest in usurping clean and legitimate election results as Clarence the porn king Thomas has in these actions. Out of 842 cases in the last 8 years, they have dismissed 782 of them and heard only 60....and not all of those heard succeeded.

If that was true then there would be no hearing
"The Supreme Court does not want to touch this with a 10 foot pole"??????

Hellooooooo, are you keeping up on current events. They are taking this case on. They are listening to the people who have the lawsuits in action. They are demanding that Barry show his original vault BC (which he has sealed so nobody can see it) and he is defying the Supreme Court.

The citizens of this country did not find out about all this stuff until the election was over, and a lot are saying if we knew this back then, we would not have voted for the guy.

It's time to wake up, just because you don't want anything to happen and want your god in there there are others who don't. Others who are fighting to find out the truth.

All they keep saying is "If you are legal and were born in Hawaii SHOW US YOUR CERTIFICATE". He has not done so and he had it (along with school records and other stuff) legally sealed. That speaks volumes in telling the public there is something seriously wrong here.

I myself will wait for the decision of the Supreme Court. BTW, just in case you haven't heard the news, they are meeting about it and listening to the cases. And if a certain number of the justices believe there is validity to it then the electorates will not be allowed to vote until the issue is resolved.
I have been hearing that O plan

of sharing the wealth will put us in the GREAT DEPRESSION just like back when Hoover was in office, exept this time, it will be worse because many more people make more than 100,000 a year than they did years ago.  So basically it will be spreading the wellfare around.


I"m hearing it and why shouldn't they

get money for a bailout? Wall Street and the banks did, but WS and the banks are HOLDING ONTO the money for BONUSES, not to bail themselves out. GM and Chryler need it to KEEP JOBS.


The bailout was wrong in the first place because everyone would want money, but that's the only thing they could come up with at the time. What's done is done but I don't think we ought to keep throwing money out there. NP and Barney Fife are too free with money that's not theirs and they should be thrown out of office. 


I'm tired of hearing about this.

It was brought to a vote and that is that.  We come from a place where it was once taboo to be gay.  You had to hide your sexual orientation.  Now you can go out with your partner and live your life for all to see.  I don't agree with that kind of lifestyle, but they are free to choose what kind of lifestyle they wish to live and who am I to judge.  However, I feel that marriage should be defined as one man and one woman.  To redefine marriage, I think, is wrong.  If they want to be life partners and have a small ceremony joining them in some sort of civil union.....go ahead but marriage should be left alone as a man and a woman.  I am sick and tired of redefining everything to make it politically correct so every minority group is happy.  You can't make everyone happy.  I personally feel that redefining marriage to include marrying anyone whether it be same or opposite sex could be confusing to children in general and I don't agree with it.


I don't have a problem with them protesting their viewpoint, but when I see them rip a cross out of an old woman's hands and stomp on the cross as she was protesting her opinion.....that is just wrong.  First of all, you don't go after an old woman and secondly....she was sharing her opinion just like they were....so don't get mad at us for our opinion because we are entitled to it as well.


I'm tired of hearing about it too.
If gays want to marry, have at it.  I personally don't care what they do.  We had a vote in Arkansas whether to allow unmarried couples to adopt or foster children )meaning gays although it wasn't p.c. to word it exactly that way.  I voted against it as did the majority. I guess it would solve  the abortion issue over time.  If George marries Carl and Sue marries Edith pretty soon there wouldn't be any unwanted pregnancies, in fact, no pregnancies at all.  Kids imitate what they see, if they have a mother and father BOTH of whom are male or female, what do you think they are going to end up thinking is "normal."  We sure don't need to redefine marriage IMHO.
Where are you hearing this mess? It's
absolutely not true. What, 1 or 2 whackjob republican electorates are nervous about it? LOL.

The BC is a NON-ISSUE, he won by a large margin, and he will be inaugurated. This has all gotten so SILLY.
They obviously are hearing voices.....
their take on the President's speech last night had some pretty funky twists......
Personally....I'm tried of hearing it from
both sides.  I'm tired of the name calling from both sides.  This debate is getting nowhere and yet some of you people just cannot let it go and just agree to disagree.  There will never be a middle ground found on this discussion.  So let's just drop it and stop all the vicious attacks.
Racism

Racism does not have to be whites not accepting blacks.  It can also be blacks not accepting whites.  And that does happen.  I would not approve of anybody that was trying to be a leader of this great country siding with one or the other.  They need to accept both blacks and whites.  Obviously, Obama does not think that way.  So what, if he was a teen when he wrote these books.  They should never have been published if he does not agree with what is in them. 


All this mess that is going on now did not start with George Bush.  Congress controls this country, with the president having veto power.  The Dems have been in power insofar as Congress goes for the last two years.  But it started even before then. 


Wake up, America!  You think with all our news media announcing to the world what we are getting ready to do that if Iraq had WMD they would not have known what was going on over here and what our plans were and most likely would have moved the WMD to another country. 


 


 


Now I know there isn't any racism in
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Racism

Will racism play a major roll in this election?  You betcha.  However, you cannot say that people not voting for Obama are racist.  Some of them are, but not all of them.  How many Obama supporters are voting for him just because he is black?  Probably a heck of a lot....so you have racism on both sides here.


Yesterday someone posted and used Barrack Obama's middle name and they were called racist for doing so.  I do not see how this is racist.  It is the man's name.  How can someone be racist for calling him by his name?


I seriously am tired of people playing the race card.  Yes, racism is out there and it will play a part in this election but that most definitely goes on both sides.  You have your wacko people yelling "kill him" at a McCain rally.  The media tried to say it happened again at a Palin rally, but that is untrue.  It was only yelled during a McCain speech.  That was wrong and crazy people like that are way out of line.  They are also giving good people who are McCain supporters bad names.  Then you have Obama's supporters.  There are many good people who are on Obama's side and yet there are those crazy wack jobs on his side as well who are only voting for him because he IS black and most certainly will be screaming racism if Obama should lose.


Both sides are guilty of racism.  Some are afraid of the crazy people yelling "kill him" and others are afraid of crazy Obama supporters rioting if he should lose.  It goes both ways.  So stop blaming one side or the other.  They both have nut job racists.  I'm just tired of hearing about this.


Racism
I can't help but wish that everyone making less than $50,000 a year who opposes Obama would take a few moments to sit quietly and really question him/herself about the racial question. If those folks were honest with themselves, really honest, I bet they'd be quite surprised. I can't think of any other reason why folks making $50,000 or less (much less) a year would support the Republicans, just simple racism.