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Today summed up in a moving video.
This was beautifully done!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phyrx3VuwcM&feature=related
I think I heard today that it was
foreign policy, but they will have to address the economy at some point, that's a given. The true poll numbers will be next week, after the debate. Polls are so skewed though anyway, I never put any trust in them.
He did NOT say that today. I heard the speech....
he said the fundamentals of the economy are good, and they are, otherwise we would have had a stock market crash. We are far from that. Good grief. He followed that by saying that the economy is in crisis and what was needed to do to fix it. I prefer to believe what I heard out of his own mouth than what you found on a liberal blog.
He is not another Bush, PERIOD, and I am inclined to agree with Biden's first impression of Obama.
I heard today that this study
was commissioned during the Bush administration. However, the timing of its release seems to be no coincidence.
Yeah, I heard that on The View today.
Her answer was something like "Guess he doesn't realize I'm not a natural blonde." Now that kinda irks me cause I AM and I'm certainly not dumb, uh, at least I don't think so. 
I heard this today.....and I live in Michigan....
Some governors are not going to take the stimulus money because there are too many strings attached to it. Well never fear......our wonderfully liberal Jennifer Granholm, who takes from the west side to give to the east side, has so nicely volunteered to take all the money that other governors have turned down and put it to good use. Not that we couldn't use it, but.....
Yeah, I even heard a liberal today say WH should
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I heard and interesting interview on the radio today...
While everyone is so wrapped up in Colin Powell supporting Obama, did anyone take note that Lieberman supports McCain?
I heard today Palin is responding to Levi's charges
by throwing the dirt back at him. I say that is how every woman her age should behave, right? Tit for tat.
Yeah, just heard today he decided to cut his vacation short to deal with the
huricaine. Sheesh.
moving on
still want to move to another country, preferably Canada..cant stand this country right now. all of my beliefs and love for this country are down the tubes.
Moving on
to the "legalizing marijuana thread." This one is getting boring and I need a toke!
another reason I am moving to the right.
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moving this from below...some of the blame
I posted this below but will say it again.
some of the blame here has to go to the American people, those who did not support industry in the US. Rush out and buy those foreign cars. it may be cheaper in the short term but in the long run....no way, it will kill us all. Can't you all see the forest through the trees. Geez louise. Complain about losing jobs in the US, complain about American businesses failing and jobs from US going overseas and then buy foreign products instead of American made and what do you expect. Do you realize the far-reaching implications of the auto industry going bust???? All the suppliers affected. And all the money that would be earned by those millions of people who will now be earning, and thus spending, nothing. That is all money that would be supporting every other business, including ours as all of those people will also lose their health benefits and seeking less medical care thus less work and less profit for us. You can put blame anywhere you want but we all deserve some of it for destroying our own economy.
A lot of Californians are moving into
Arizona. They want to change it and make it fast-paced like California. We have a name for Californians here in Arizona but it isn't appropriate for this board.
Yeah, it's funny....but I think moving him around through all the...
different people and all the questions that were being asked was to keep him on the phone while the traces were taking place and authorities mobilized to go to his house. Whatever phone he called obviously is not the one Presidents of other countries call...lol.
Heck, maybe he figured some way of getting it off Jenna calling the White House on Ellen Degeneres' show. If they have last number re-dial at Ellen's show a lot of people probably have it...LOL. Does seem coincidental that she called the White House a few days ago and now he did...hmmmm. But no way of knowing if it was same #.
Bet he was surprised when the police showed up...lol.
Moving to top of board....this is important.
THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both of these claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where McCain called Alaska the largest state in America, he could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.
REBUTTAL: She is responsible for negotiating any drilling of those resources. "Primary power" may be taxation, but she also has to oversee environmental issues, etc. She cracked the monopoly and forced oil companies to bid again, and she made a necessary portion of the bid that they address environmental issues. That was left out of the FACTS. While the population of the state may not be in proportion to the size of the state, her latest approval rating is 86%. That is unheard of. None of the other candidates enjoy that as senators from their respective states. That was also left out of the FACTS.
THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.
REBUTTAL: When the National Guard is called up within a state, the governor does have the primary responsibility of mobilization and oversight. Since she is 50 miles from Russia, having control of the National Guard in that state is certainly central to our national security. And the operative word is AFTER the unit is deployed. Making the decision to call them up and send them to war IS her decision, and DOES affect national security.
THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January of 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.
REBUTTAL: This is true. But if Democrats truly believe in hope and change, they have had since January to actually do it. Have seen zip, zilch, nada. Got news for you...Bush is not a true conservative, especially fiscally obviously. McCain is.
THE FACTS: It's true that Obama voted "present" dozens of times, among the thousands of votes he cast in an eight-year span in Springfield. Illinois lawmakers commonly vote that way on a variety of issues for technical, legal or strategic reasons. Obama, for instance, voted "present" on some abortion measures to encourage wavering legislators to do the same instead of voting "yes." Their "present" votes had the same effect as "no" votes and helped defeat the bills. Voting this way also can be a way to duck a difficult issue, although that's difficult to prove.
REBUTTAL: Bottom line, he still voted "present." If he can't make a decision on those bills, he is going to be able to make the big ones to run the country? You can't vote present in the oval office. However, he did show up to vote NO to the Infants Born Alive act...twice.
THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.
Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.
He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes over $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.
REBUTTAL: Look at this and digest it. First paragraph...Obama's plan will raise income for middle income taxpayers by 5% by 2012...he does not define "middle class." McCain's plan is going to CUT taxes across ALL levels and still raise the "middle income" by 3%. I think I will take the tax cut and the 3%. No brainer.
Obama wants to provide 80 billion in tax breaks to people who already pay almost 0 taxes. Where, pray tell, is that $80 billion going to come from?? Taxing the "rich" which will trickle down to loss of jobs and depression of the economy. Won't work. Never works. Case in point..small businesses that make more than $250,000 would see taxes rise. That is about every small family business in this country, who employ a lot of people. Just throw them all under the bus in order to cut taxes for people who pay the least taxes of all of us ANYWAY.
NO THANKS.
Seeing as you want to live as a socialist, you should consider moving to
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posted this below accidentally so moving it up
The election is over. The results are in. Whether you are pleased or displeased with the results, it is time to show some class. Gloating is not attractive or very mature either nor is continuing to bemoan all of the dire predictions. I Both Senators Obama and McCain have said it is time for Americans to come together, to work together. How about starting here and now. McCain offered a very gracious speech. Can't we follow that fine example no matter what our personal feelings might be? Let us all behave with some class. We need to deal with the government we have and put our efforts into making it work as best possible instead of childish gloating or incessant complaining. Let's put our considerable energy and knowledge to a constructive purpose and just stop behaving so badly!
If you are all about moving forward, why dont you
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You cannot blame their moving on Obama -
They would have done that no matter who is in office and the auto bailouts started before this administration.
If it is moving and a heart is beating its alive.
Your denial does not change that.
The reason is because FL insisted on moving up the primary, despite being told NOT to. nm
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If McCain wins, I'll be moving to Canada...Montreal
According to Bill O'Reilly...Obama moving ahead in polls! (nm)
Today is a new day.
I have decided to not even read the conservative board any more, let alone post there.
My suggestion is we respect their board and stop posting there, as they have asked us to do, and that they in turn stop posting on our board, as we have asked them to do.
Anybody want to bet on who can't stay away from which board? 
Where is sam today?
I am missing her viewpoint on today's issues. Sam, are you lurking?
No flaming, please, by the peanut gallery.
the one today at the U of K
The men were charged with disorderly conduct related to the hanging of the effigy. They were also charged with burglary and theft at a fraternity house where police said the materials came from. They were not charged with a hate crime.
UK President Lee Todd said the effigy violates the university's code of ethics, and Fischer faces punishment that could include expulsion.
From what I read, it is not considered a hate crime because: It's also true that as long as it was clear that the hanging figure represented Obama or another prominent black politician rather than a private citizen, it wouldn't be legally actionable as a hate crime. Our laws give broad latitude to clear expressions of political opinion, as opposed to incitements to violence against ethnic groups.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-ed-effigy30-2008oct30,0,4355428.story
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hlnR7kQP7tXQKA0872BAweYKqPFQD9454DIG0
is that as of today?
Is that as of today or as of Nov 4th. I am asking this seriously, not a smart aleck comment. I have read that since 11/4 something like 42 electors have joined in one or more of the suits to order production of the B/C before they vote. No, I am not sure of the actual number, but I know I did read that they had joined in the suits because they felt it would be a constitutional violation to vote until the issue had been definitively put to rest as apparently they felt enough doubt had been raised. What I read said they felt this way because the SC is actually considering the writ of certiorari instead of just tossing it.
Yes, that is as of today.
This is a clear-cut, speculation-free figure.
But they said it was today.
Well, then if it is old, CNN SUCKS.
Where have you been today?
why is it when something you perceive to be negative towards Obama comes to light,you choose to believe it ain't so?
No pot was stirred. Decision was made with the blessings of Obama to basically let the terrorists off the hook who blew up the USS Cole. Now, if you don't know anything about that or you don't have a family member who was blown to he!! on that ship, then I suppose it wouldn't concern you, even though it should. These families were not "organized". They heard the ruling that said all the terrorists who blew up their children will get a free pass!! Bush didn't drop the charges against them! Obama did! Where have you been?
And no, if you were watching your TV, you would see they are not being let back on the grounds; even the liberal cameras are now focusing on that.
Since your head has been in the sand, you might like to know that Obama stirred this pot. He asked the families of those murdered to meet with him. HE asked THEM!
Sorry, but he started this little ball rolling all by his lonesome.
How sad that today
people are so willing to throw their children to the lions. If they're not aborting them, they're encouraging them to engage in a behavior that will mean a multitude of disease, early death or lifelong mental problems, and all under the guise of "tolerance." You should be ashamed. This mother is on the right track.
I read about this today.
What I find the most interesting is that he feels "...and he said that a controversial legal theory then in vogue -- of directing employers to pay women equally to men for jobs of "comparable worth" -- was "staggeringly pernicious" and "anti-capitalist."
Say WHAT Mr. Roberts?
What is it with these links today?
Today is voting day!
Don't forget to vote in your local elections today ~ Your vote does make a difference!
I got the same joke today ..
but it also had "go to Indian casinos and buy prostitutes and beer!"
that's all well and fine, but today's
world never sees any racism as funny, so given the serious nature of this particular board, humor just did not come on the radar.
I'm hearing that a lot today
I've been all over the internet today and everywhere I go I'm seeing woman who feel like McCain is being condescending to women by throwing out this nobody who is ruby red as they come and expecting to get women voters just because of it, especially Hillary followers. These women are insulted and now finally have both feet firmly on the Obama train.
She was in Wisconsin today,
so they didn't send her back yet.
Served Today
http://www.americasright.com/2008/09/berg-v-obama-update-friday-september-5.html
USA Today poll
9/5 - 9/7
McCain 54
Obama 44
No, that would be you......several times today and beyond...nm
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Polls as of today....
Gallup:
Gallup Daily: McCain 47%, Obama 45%
McCain retains a three-point advantage for the third straight day, 50% to 47% (see recent daily results).
Real Clear Politics
RCP Average 09/05 - 09/13 -- McCain 47.5 Obama 45.2 McCain +2.3
McCain has also diminished Obama's lead in many of the "swing states" and is even within 2 points in Pennsylvania, which is unheard of. Pennsylvania nearly always goes democratic. McCain leads in Ohio. He has gone into the lead in New Mexico and Nevada. That has been steady for several days now.
All that being said...the polls said Kerry should have won many states handily...but he didn't. Polls can be very misleading. We won't know until election night...although this is the first time in how long that a Republican was leading in the polls at this point?
It is a very interesting campaign, that's for darned sure.
That was then and this is now...He just said it today of ALL days!!! sm
WHY WOULD anyone in their RIGHT MIND say such a thing TODAY of all days???? Unless they were completely out of touch with the people of America and what they're going through.
He is another Bush - PERIOD.
Yes, I also noticed this too today. Not sure if I saw this before or not.
Could be a sign of a stroke or somethin if it was not there before. Would have to look at previous pics of him from a few days ago or so to see if it was there. Hope not. Do not wish that on anyone.
I saw Obamanation on TV today
talking about how in America hard work is rewarded and I about spit out my pop I was sipping at the time. Under his regime....hard work will not be rewarded. What you earn with your hard work will be given to others who don't work hard. Reward my rear end. Sheesh.
This whole bail out thing has me irritated beyond belief. The idea of us having to pay in taxes because some irresponsible people got greedy and screwed us all. This only makes the idea of universal healthcare worse to me. Once again, having to pay for other people to have health insurance. How is it my fault wall street crashed and how is it my fault that some people don't have health insurance but I guess as long as we all pay out the ying yang....everything will just be peaches n cream.....oh please...give me a friggin break.
The View today
Love, love, love Joy (Go Girl!). Bill O'Reilly is an arrogant, egomaniac and Keith Olberman so has his ticket. Elisabeth is know-nothing, simpering little twit who most of the time doesn't have a clue what she is talking about. Whoopi is the best -- so much common sense!! I would vote for Whoopi in 2012!
Yes, I saw him speak today as well
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Believe it or not, the Today show
spent some time on this issue this morning. I was surprised since it's supposed to be buried. They cited all the lawsuits from the different states. But, since I was a bit shocked, my ears went dead and I didn't hear the rest of the story.
There is no hearing today.
Your statement here is patently inaccurate. The SC is not taking the case. For the sake of not wasting too much time on this fairy tale, I am posting this article link that can explain that better than I can.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/12/05/supreme-court-not-considering-obamas-birth-certificate-case/
You will notice that the article clearly states that the merits of the claims will not be heard (essentially because there are no merits).
For an excellent explanation on the Supreme courts porn king/sexually harassing above-the-law judge's motivations for his "lone wolf" move to attempt to shove this nonsense down the throats of his fellow jurists, read this:
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/83953
Here is an excellent article that discussed the underlying pathology of conspiracy theorists:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/12/05/birth_certificate/
You are mistaken about the timing of this "knowledge." Unfortunately, the citizens of this country learned of this lunacy long before the Nausea or vomiting 4 election. In fact, Berg's lawsuit emerged the minute it became apparent that Hillary was not going to win in the primaries (08/22/2008). Andy Martin's failed action occurred 10/17/2008. Steven Marquis' impotent attempt occurred on 10/18/2008. David Neal's action fell flat on its face 10/24/2008. Your delusional statement about "many people" is a fabrication that I notice you have not backed up with any sort of credible source.
There is no truth to fight for, fool. The conspiracy theorists who are the driving force behind this abomination are scam bags who are picking your pockets to keep this stupidity alive....and you are marching lock-step alongside one another and coughing up.
The rest of the stuff you have included in your post is nothing more that regurgitation of garbage that has been answered at least a thousand times already. My advice to you is not to hold your breath waiting for the SC justices to show the same sort of self-serving interest in usurping clean and legitimate election results as Clarence the porn king Thomas has in these actions. Out of 842 cases in the last 8 years, they have dismissed 782 of them and heard only 60....and not all of those heard succeeded.
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