FBI is investigating Bama's ACORN
Posted By: you need to get a clue, gordo on 2008-10-16
In Reply to: You call Keating, Ayers, ACORN et all serious debate? - gourdpainter
Of course you don't take the serious issues seriously.
The only thing you take seriously is propaganda from Obama, 'cause it's easier to let someone else do the thinking for you.
You've proven yourself to be a lying hypocrite. (I'm independent. I'm voting for Lou dobbs. I'm not for Obama.)
Pathetic.
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They are investigating ACORN.
except in the right-wing fringer's manifesto. People who chant this mantra cannot be taken seriously. Goudpainter is one of the few honest and sensible posters on this board. In the United States of America, we are allowed to have doubts and change our minds. She has not come out in support of Obama and is having an issue with her write-in that may or may not resolve itself in the next 19 days. The lying hypocrite slur is unfounded, uncalled for and just goes to show us all how losing an election is making some people "lose it."
Go-bama
1. He has the experience and has spent his career helping people like me and my family who are struggling and he actually cares about us and our struggles and has a plan to help us.
2. He wants to get the economny back on track and he has a plan.
3. He believes all Americans should be able to afford health insurance and he has a plan. He believes in preventative health care.
4. He believes people should not leave college with a huge educational debt and will offer students a credit and has a plan to help them.
5. He will talk to leaders of other countries which I think is extremely important if we want to live side by side in peace with other countries and not be afraid of them.
6. His wife is one of his biggest assets to the white house as first lady. She is intelligent, gracious, courteous, sympathetic towards people, a wonderful public speaker, and cares as much about the American people as he does.
7. His kids. I would love to see some young kids back in the white house (okay, that's not really a valid point, but I think his daughters are cute as a button).
8. He is a remarkably intellectual person who is articulate in his thoughts and speaches. He thinks before he speaks, he knows what he is talking about, and he doesn't speak in anger.
9. He inspires Americans all over similarly to what I understand JFK did.
10. He will fight for all citizens to have a better life. He's not afraid to go against anyone.
11. He's new to the office so doen't have pre-concieved ideas and plans that are not good for the country.
12. I've listened to him in the senate when he is talking and questioning other people. His core beliefs match up the closest to mine. He believes in honesty and if you are doing something wrong you need to be held accountable.
13. He wants the troops home and he has a doable plan.
14. He wants to help the people who are facing foreclosures and other housing crisis and he has a plan.
15. He and his wife didn't come from a rich family. They struggled throughout their life. They know what a loaf of bread or gallon of milk or gallon of gas costs.
16. He will surround himself with intelligent people in the cabinet and he is willing to listen to them and he will listen when they say "your wrong Mr. President, we need to to this or that". He will listen and follow the advice of the people who have the experience that he doesn't.
17. This is the least important but one I like. We will finally have a person of color as President and it's time the country "got with it". Times are changing and we need to be part of it.
Okay, have I said enough? :-)
Bama ain't got no troubles
His future is bright and shiny, like the reflection in his young daughters eyes.
I agree with that! The more investigating the better...
and I hope if they find fraud heads roll, no matter what party the heads belong to. This needs to stop on both sides and it is about time there was accountability. On both sides.
No-bama, No-citizen...
Pennsylvania lawsuit alleging that Barack Obama is not a “natural-born citizen” of the United States took an unusual twist this week, after a federally mandated deadline requiring Obama’s lawyers to produce a “vault” copy of his birth certificate expired with no response from Obama or his lawyers.
The lawsuit, filed by former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip J. Berg — a self-avowed supporter of Hillary Clinton — alleges that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is thus “ineligible” to run for president of the United States. It demands that Obama’s lawyers produce a copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he is a natural-born U.S. citizen.
Berg's suit and allegations have set off a wave of Internet buzz and rumors, though Obama could easily have put the matter to rest by providing the federal court with the basic documentation proving he is eligible to take the oath of a president. But Obama has apparently decided to deny the court and the public that documentation.
The Constitution provides that any U.S. citizen is eligible to become president if the person is 35 years of age or older and is a natural-born citizen; that is, born in the territorial United States.
By failing to respond to the Request for Admissions and Request for the Production of Documents within 30 days, Obama has “admitted” that he was born in Kenya, Berg stated this week in new court filings.
Berg released a long list of “admissions” he submitted to Obama’s lawyers on Sept. 15, and asked that they produce documents relating to Obama’s place of birth and citizenship.
Instead of responding, lawyers for Obama and the DNC asked the court to dismiss the case. But Judge R. Barclay Surrick of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania has issued no ruling in the case that would have given Obama’s lawyers more time.
“There are lots of legal ways to stonewall,” a well-placed Republican attorney told Newsmax, who was not authorized to comment officially on the case. “But failing to respond is not one of them.”
“The first thing they teach you in law school,” he added, “is don’t put a complaint like this in a drawer. That’s how a nuisance case can become a problem.”
The 30-day deadline for defendants to comply with a discovery request is set forth in the Federal Rules of Civil Procedures.
“It all comes down to the fact that there's nothing from the other side,” Berg said after he filed a motion on Thursday for summary judgment.
“The admissions are there. By not filing the answers or objections, the defense has admitted everything. [Obama] admits he was born in Kenya. He admits he was adopted in Indonesia. He admits that the documentation posted online is a phony. And he admits that he is constitutionally ineligible to serve as president of the United States.”
In a contentious case, lawyers on both sides will haggle over the production of documents, and will frequently go beyond the deadlines, several lawyers told Newsmax.
“The rules are more often complied with in the breech rather than the observance,” a senior trial attorney who has close ties to the Democrat Party, but is not involved in the current case, told Newsmax.
“Lawyers frequently do not return telephone calls or meet discovery deadlines because of sheer inadvertence. Therefore, we do not consider a failure to respond as a ‘violation,’” he said.
Allegations surrounding Obama’s place of birth have been swirling for months. Earlier this year, the Obama campaign sought to put down the rumors by making available a computer-generated Certification of Live Birth, issued in 2007 by the State of Hawaii. [See the Certification of Live Birth — Click Here.]
Respected conservative blogger Ed Morrissey called the Berg lawsuit a “conspiracy theory” that had been put to rest by the Obama campaign over the summer but ”has arisen like a zombie yet again to suck the credibility out of the conservative blogosphere.”
However, the 2007 document produced by the Obama campaign omits key information that normally appears on birth certificates in the United States, including the name of the hospital where he was born, the size and weight of the baby, and sometimes the name of the doctor who delivered him.
In addition, the critics of the 2007 document note that Obama's father is described as “African,” a term used today. The formal language in official documents at the time — 1961 — would have identified his race as “Negro” or “Colored.”
The Web site snarkybytes.com has produced a vault copy of a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth from 1963, issued by the Hawaii Department of Health. [See the vault copy — Click Here.]
In addition to naming the hospital and more details about the baby, the 1963 vault copy also includes the “usual residence of the mother,” and the “usual occupation” of the father. None of this information appears on the 2007 Live Birth certificate produced by the Obama campaign.
Berg has been a perennial political candidate in Pennsylvania, having run in Democrat primaries for attorney general, lieutenant governor, governor, and other offices without success. He served as deputy attorney general of the State of Pennsylvania from 1972-1980.
His credibility was tarnished by work he did for the far-left “9/11 for the Truth” campaign, which alleged in a federal lawsuit that the collapse of the twin towers in New York was caused by “controlled demolition” ordered by the president of the United States.
Nevertheless, in recent weeks, lawsuits have been filed in seven additional states demanding that Barack Obama produce an original vault copy of his birth certificate, to dispel the rumors that he is not a natural-born United States citizen.
The latest suits have been filed in state and federal courts in Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia, New York, and Connecticut to compel Obama to release his birth records.
Lawsuits in Washington and Georgia are seeking state superior courts to force the states’ secretary of state, as the chief state elections officer, to require Obama to produce original birth records from Hawaii, or else decertify him as a candidate for the presidency.
Ironically, Obama mentions his birth certificate in passing on Page 26 of his 1995 memoir, “Dreams of My Father.” “I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school,” he wrote.
Lawyers for Obama and the DNC did not return calls for comment on the current status of the case, or explain why the Obama campaign did not simply put to rest the whole controversy by releasing the birth certificate that Obama apparently cherished as a teenager.
In the past, questions about Sen. John McCain's legal status have arisen. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone at a U.S. Army hospital. McCain had legal experts vet his constitutional qualifications, and he also disclosed a copy of his birth certificate.
born in Kenya folks.......not born in the USA!
The purpose of investigating voter fraud...sm
It is not to be able to go back and forth, but to get to the core of the problems and solve them. On this board, you will see articles about voter fraud against liberal voters. That's not saying it doesn't happen on both sides, but which do you think WE are concerned about.
ACORN
I heard on the news that ACORN also received some money in the bailout package, put in by democrats!! Guess who was involved with ACORN...
ACORN
Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now....... the nation's largest community organization of low and moderate income families working ...
Don't be fooled by the last part about working. While they have done some good for some people, they are mostly about getting votes. They have had many of their people indicted for voter fraud. THey are up again for investigation for this very same thing. Obama has thrown over $800,000 to them to help hire more people to get on the streets and coerce folks into registering to vote, even if they are already registered.
They have been found to fradulently doctor papers to appear as a registered voter, including deceased, homeless, even nonexistent names and addresses.
Acorn
HA, the truth comes out! Sen Obama's very small relationship to Acorn was in 1982 when he was involved with a group called project vote. Acorn was also loosely involved in that. However, Sen John McCain was involved with them, Acorn, just two years ago and had much praise for the group. And interestingly enough, the ONLY people that are trying to tie Obama to the group is the McCain campaign. Kind of funny how McCain works. Palin and McCain's wife complain that Obama voted not to fund the troops and yet McCain, two months after Obama turned it down (and ONLY because there was no time table written in) McCain also turns it down, because they wrote in a time table. How does his wife feel about that? They both voted NO on the same issue. McCain is sickening.
ACORN is very serious
I'm in Ohio and we're smack dab in the middle of it. I don't care who's involved with it, someone needs to do something and all Jennifer Brunner is doing is tying up the courts with her stupid appeals. Something needs to be done because if not, whoever wins the election, the other side will be able to challenge because of all the fraudulent votes cast - then we'll go through the 2000 election 100x worse!
oh-h acorn
various community organizations who hired people to sign up new voters. How s-c-a-r-y is that???
oh yea, acorn
have you seen their building. It's some funeral home or something in Louisiana that's supposed to house over 250 businesses....shaaaaa! Glen Beck's been covering it.
Regarding ACORN...
I heard this morning that ACORN may be supplying empolyees to the Census Department to conduct the census next year - anyone else hear this? Just curious because I'm just not sure how they would get away with that, seeing as though they are under investigation in nine states.
I am sure that ACORN was
probably started with the best of intentions, but there are just too many issues that have come up with them that makes me think they are a corrupt organization.
I guess they said that ACORN as well as other organizations like the NAACP were to get 1.4 million volunteers for the 2010 census. I need to do some more research on this to see actually how much they will be involved in the actual census. There involvement in any of it....I personally feel is wrong but I guess we will just have to wait and see how this plays out.
With the help of ACORN he got 59% -
ACORN
Any ideas of why ACORN changed their name to Community Organizers International?
Obama and ACORN...
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/05/obamas-acorn/
That would have been 30 billion to ACORN of the...sm
return on the investments. That and other returns going to special interests.
Think about it. This is an investment. NOT a bailout. They need to get rid of that word.
If the dems wanted to write in 30 billion dollars to the ACORN from future profits....and others....they know this is an investment.
They need to tell the public this.
These profits need to be returned to the taxpayer, and to Social Security and pay down the national debt.
Not more special interests.
That's a big holdup of all the add ons that the dems put on, that need to be changed for the good of the people.
They need to get back closer to three pages....instead of 103 pages of earmarks for special interests.
More on the Acorn mess....
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/26/the-democratic-acorn-bailout/
Yes, and how about the bailout, ACORN, and
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Ask ACORN. They are the ones who submitted...
a voter registration in that name.
Another ACORN raid...
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/07/acorn-vegas-office-raided-voter-fraud-investigation/
Where the Democrats in congress wanted a percentage of the bailout payback to go.
About time they stop letting ACORN register voters...ya think??
This is ACORN in a nutshell.....
This is a group that wants more and more people to be dependent on them. The more you depend on them, the less you do for yourself, the more dependent you become on the government.....it's like a snowball effect, and they know exactly what they are doing. LET US THINK FOR YOU should be their motto!!!
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5365
This is where I blame ACORN
I think registered voters should have to prove their knowledge on the matters at hand prior to voting. Just a 5 or 10-question test to make sure they know their candidate's policies.
Do we really want our "welfare" society to determine our next President? That's what ACORN is making sure will happen.
acorn - bertha
Saw on TV last night an ACORN ad with "Bertha" and she sure didn't sound bipartisan to me. hmmmmm..
The money would only go to ACORN
on the Community Block Grants for revitalization of low-income neighborhoods and Community Service Grants to provide social services to the residents. There are other organizations that also provide these services who would be involved in the bidding. It is part of the nonprofit stimulus fund of the package. Non-profit organizations that provide social support and services are seeing increasing demands for assistance in the current economic crisis.
Can you say ACORN? talk about
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How about te big thank-you chunk for ACORN?
That been taken out too?
What?! We should be protesting ACORN
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Acorn is over in Iran too?
LMAO.
Then ACORN should start by getting rid of
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That may be included as well...but the ACORN thing...
is something that Dodd wanted attached which has nothing to do with the average Joe...and as I said, ACORN is being sued in multiple states and is under investigation in detroit right now for voter fraud. NONE of ANY federal funds should be going to that group. Period. In my opinion. And CERTAINLY not part of a financial bailout.
ACORN is definitely an economic issue.....
When thousands of fraudulent voters are going to the polls being counted as a vote, even though they do not truly exist in the first place, and Obama gets elected due to voter fraud, which he himself has paid to help enforce, how do you not see that as affecting our economy?
The majority of those dumb enough to help with the fraud are sadly enough easily led individuals who can't think for themselves and just do what they are told. They help to put a man in office who is going to tax them even more and they don't have the sense to know it! You don't think that affects your economy?
By the way, I am Independent.. McCain does't rock my boat either but Obama makes me want to puke!
Just saw a lady on tv admitting to be with ACORN
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I know my ignorance is showing, but what is ACORN? nm
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ACORN is a community organization
since its inception. It is the latest weapon the pubs have in their arsenal of smear tactics. They are using this yet to be concluded investigation as a way to imply that Obama is actively trying to throw the election. Voter fraud is something the pubs know a thing or two about. They wrote the book, so at least this most recent tactic is coming from a place of intimate familiarity for them. What is puzzling is just how they can make voter fraud charges stick BEFORE the ballots are cast. By the way, there is a whole lot more to the subject of voter fraud than the ACORN saga. it has to do with te long-needed overhaul of election protocl that pubs have historically bristled at every time it surfaces in political rhetoric, but they do not hesitate to try to use it to try to resurrect an anemic campaign strategy. They are desperately trying to place AL their eggs in this basket to try to overturn O's momentum in the polls and on the electoral map, but time is running out and so far, those Hail Mary's haven't been scoring too many points for the Straight Talk Express.
ACORN has already admitted to fraud.
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LOL. I am in Ohio. ACORN is blatantly asking
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Haven't posted anything on ACORN until
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Did ya'll hear that ACORN
registered Mickey Mouse? The registration was thrown out obviously but they actually turned it in. I saw it on TV this morning. If this wasn't so serious, I might have actually chuckled at this but this is horrible. I hope they hold some of these quacks accountable.
Well, for ACORN it is about race....the more blacks
The blacks that have been truthful have spoken out and said that the corrupt group ACORN has PUSHED them to vote for Obama, telling them how much better their lives would be, etc., etc., and they will get a big 'ole check every month, courtesy of the hard working folks. And all they gotta do is sign on the dotted line. These are black people speaking out because they know something is very wrong with this picture.
Too bad the O lovers don't see anything wrong with this picture.
Obama says he was ONLY an attorney for ACORN
He conveniently forgot to state the fact that he gave ACORN 800,000 dollars to ACORN.
Like Ayers and Wright and ACORN?
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ACORN gets bashed because they are a FRAUD!
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Yes, O and his friends ACORN are a fraud, but at
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I don't called being shipped by ACORN to
vote and told who to vote for (Obama) exactly intelligent...do you? Just the opposite..no intelligence, which is why Obama's going after all he can get from that crowd. Easily led and he knows it.
ACORN Protests around the country
They're telling people whose homes are up for foreclosure to stay in their homes even if they are taken off to jail.
A spokesperson for the group believes that everyone should get new mortgages, even those that are in homes that they can't afford. (I've been trying to find that article.)
http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/2749/t/3071/signUp.jsp?key=2134
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/10/AR2009021001271.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/18/nyregion/18foreclose.html?_r=2&ref=nyregion
Yeah, and no ACORN buses either/nm
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No thanks - don't want Acorn bused-in crowds
My city in Florida had an estimated 5000 people show up - at 11:30 on a work day. Is that a small number to you? These people took time off from work for something that is important to them. They weren't bused in like all those Acorn-filled rallies during the campaign. 
ACORN is not a community organizer.... we know
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WHAT? You didn't get an ACORN bribe?
My dear, you simply AREN'T with it. If you'll write to George Soros and promise to be an arrogant progressive humanistic communist, to work to undermine and destroy the outdated quaint ideas upon which America was founded, to scoff at working fools who pay their bills, and to help George make another $2.9 billion off of the current economic crisis, I'm sure he'll send you the money to go to DC. Not on July 4th, of course, because that date means nothing to him, but on Halloween, to join his coven.
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