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ACORN Protests around the country

Posted By: Backwards typist on 2009-02-19
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They're telling people whose homes are up for foreclosure to stay in their homes even if they are taken off to jail.


A spokesperson for the group believes that everyone should get new mortgages, even those that are in homes that they can't afford. (I've been trying to find that article.)


http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/2749/t/3071/signUp.jsp?key=2134


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/10/AR2009021001271.html


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/18/nyregion/18foreclose.html?_r=2&ref=nyregion




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Amen to that, I heard on Glenn BeEck to watch out for Acorn protests.nm
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Protests.

March 17, 2007 thousands of anti-war protesters will participate in a march in D.C. set to start at The Wall and work to the Pentagon.  It will be led by Cindy Sheehan, Jane Fonda, Ramsey Clark, and probably a few other hollywood glitterarti.    American protesters and their allies in the liberal news media have been comparing our military operations in Iraq to the Viet Nam War for a long time. I'm beginning to see their point.

I'm worried that our war against Islamic fundamentalism in Iraq is going to turn into Viet Nam, by which I mean that once the U.S. leaves, millions of people will lose any hope of freedom and democracy and a dangerous and violent ideology will have gained ground in the world, all because irresponsible and misinformed liberals turned public opinion against the war and encouraged our enemies.

If you want to protest a war before it starts in order to try and influence the government's decision to go to war, that's one thing. It's another thing entirely to root for America's defeat in the middle of a war. If U.S. troops pulled out of Iraq now, there'd be nothing else to call it but defeat. Anti-war protesters have a number of arguments to defend themselves with, but the bottom line is that our boys, and these days, our girls too, are over there trying to win a war. If you're protesting this war, you're not helping.

One of the first arguments you'll hear from the anti-war crowd is that political protest is a patriotic exercise of their constitutional rights. I'm not denying that it's their right. Just because something is legal under the Supreme Court's latest interpretation of the Constitution, it doesn't mean that it is morally OK - eminent domain, anyone? And protesting a war while your country is fighting it is not patriotic by any stretch. I don't understand how you can love your country so much that you want it to lose a war and will march in the streets demanding that it surrender.

Another argument you'll hear is that Cindy Sheehan and others who have lost children in Iraq have absolute moral authority, as New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd put it. One wonders if Ms. Dowd believes that pro-war activists who have lost children in Iraq have the same absolute moral authority. God has absolute moral authority. Human beings do not. To publicly denounce the very ideals that these men died fighting for, however, is to dishonor their sacrifices. Casey Sheehan, like many of the men and women in our all-volunteer army, believed strongly in what he was fighting for. While it's impossible to know what he would have wanted, I think it's safe to guess that Casey Sheehan would not have wanted anyone, no less his own mother, to use the spotlight of his heroism and his death to say that the cause he believed in, enough so that he was willing to give his life for it, was unjust.

The most powerful argument the anti-war protesters have on their side is their genuine concern for our men and women serving in uniform. They can't support the troops without supporting the war, but they care about our soldiers so much that they want them to come home safely, and as soon as possible, even before their job is done. Call me naive, but I do believe that some anti-war activists sincerely mean well. That being said, keep in mind what road is paved with good intentions.

Whether they are doing it intentionally or not, anti-war protesters are hurting our side and helping the enemy. Jim Mueller, the new national commander of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, said that anti-war protesters will eventually devastate troop morale, just like they did in the 1960s. Mueller remarked, Morale means everything on the field of battle, but good morale starts at home, and that's why the [Veterans of Foreign Wars] is so concerned with this upcoming protest.

Anti-war protesters don't just lower the morale of our own troops; they boost the morale of our enemy. According to the organization Accuracy In Media, soldiers who have come back from Iraq have reported that anti-war protests help the enemy fight harder. In the 1960s, the North Vietnamese knew that anti-war protests were helping them win the war. James Stockdale, a real American hero who might be best known as Ross Perot's 1992 running mate, recalls an interrogation he endured in 1966 when he was a prisoner of war in Vietnam. His captor, Nguyen Khac Vien, said to him, Our country has no capability to defeat you on the battlefield. Vien's next words became an immortal slogan of the enemy. He added, We will win this war on the streets of New York.

I need to clarify one final point and then I am done with this.  I have to tell you, some of the remarks here have caused me great worry and torment.  I don't think everyone has to support the war, but no one should undermine troop morale by protesting. There is certainly room for academic debate about whether or not it was the right choice to go to war. I think it's wrong to protest in the middle of a war, but I also believe that before and after the war, it is important for there to be a serious and critical discussion of American foreign policy. But when anti-war protesters call for America's defeat during the war, they're undermining our mission and supporting our enemies. Even if they have the best intentions, anti-war activists aren't doing anyone any favors. The more difficult they make it for our soldiers to do their job, the longer it's going to take before they can come home.  In that sense, it definitely is another Viet Nam.


Protests are good
The past is the past, the present is the present.  Clinton was protested, good..who cares, not I..Now that Bush is being protested, good thing too..I, unlike some republicans I have met in my life time, do not defend just because someone is democrat..I have voted republican in the past..not a presidential election but local elections..I am a registered independent..I try to observe and decide both sides of the issue..It just happens that this administration, IMHO, is corrupt to the max with a president that is inept.  You will see, when we finally get someone else in the WH..be it republican or democrat, I will probably be moaning and groaning about that person too..I call em as I see em.
There are protests, they just go unreported. sm
My cousin in Ireland gave me a heads up to an antiwar protest in DC that reported thousands of people. Here, they reported it like there was a couple of freaks with signs, or did not report it at all.

The day the report came back Pat Tillman was killed, possibly executed by his own men, and covered up they decided to distract everyone with the Paris Hilton goes to jail story all day.
Protests going on all over France like this.
http://www.nj.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/international-2/124092166956780.xml&storylist=health
"Tea Party" protests

Planned "Tea Party" protests.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510129,00.html


Anti Gay (and USA) Protests to Hit Key West

I read a daily blog on Key West real estate and today's posting happened to be on a slightly different subject.


Apparently Fred Phelps and his minions are planning on a trip to Key West to demonstrate their hate of not only gay people but the USA.


Can we take them down as the terrorist organization they are yet? One of his cohorts is already down there:


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The Key West community will meet tonight to decide whether -- and if so, how -- to respond to a nationally infamous man who hates homosexuals.


The Rev. Fred Phelps, head of the Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas, is scheduled to be in Key West on May 22 to protest the Gay/Straight Alliance at Key West High School. Phelps also is planning to demonstrate at the entrance to the island, in front of Sigsbee Park and at B'Nai Zion synagogue, according to a letter Phelps' daughter sent to Police Chief Donie Lee.


The group is planning an outdoor demonstration "regarding the judgment of God with respect to the dangers of promoting homosexuality, and the rest of the filthy manner of life and idol worshipping in this country," the letter states. The city does not require a permit for such assemblies.


Phelps' church is not recognized by mainstream Baptists and is monitored by the Anti-Defamation League as a hate group. His "church" comprises mostly his family members, about 60 of whom are said to protest three times a day, with signs that read, "God Hates Fags" and other anti-homosexual slurs. The church also protests at military funerals, claiming the deaths are the result of America's tolerance of homosexuality.


The Rev. Joe McMurray, pastor of the gay-friendly Metropolitan Community Church, where tonight's meeting will be held, said he does not think that Anthony Charles Capo Jr., who often holds a sign that says "God Hates Fags.com" on Key West street corners, is formally connected with the Kansas group.


Meeting organizers will solicit ideas from community members and law enforcement officials, said McMurray. The gathering will include the police chief, Schools Superintendent Randy Acevedo and some city commissioners.


"We can come together and decide if there will be a response, and what it would be," McMurray said. "We'll also hear from law enforcement to see what they prefer in the interest of public safety."


The Police Department is developing an operational plan for Phelps' demonstration, but Lee emphasized that the general public should ignore Phelps.


"I know it's difficult and I know, firsthand, that it's an emotional issue, but as far as I'm concerned, that's the way to deal with it," said Lee, who is gay. Any demonstrations from counter-protesters would only make it more difficult for officers to keep the peace, Lee said.


Phelps' First Amendment rights allow him and his followers to express their opinions, and the police cannot arrest them for doing so.


Lee explained that if someone says something that directly creates a public safety issue, then the situation changes. He used the example of someone yelling "fire" in a crowded theater as an example that would jeopardize public safety and therefore be an arrestable offense.


"Short of that, people have the right to express their opinion," Lee said.


McMurray said he does not know what prompted Phelps to target the high school group in a town known for its acceptance of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people, and its official motto of "One Human Family."


"I don't know if anybody has the 'why' behind Fred Phelps," McMurray said. "He wants to come disrupt, create unease and disturb the peace in a peace-loving community, and he raises money by suing municipalities who violate his civil rights during protests. He intimidates communities."


McMurray and others hope to hear ideas that would turn Phelps' protest into something positive for the community. One option would be a fundraiser for every hour that Phelps is here. People could make an hourly pledge to local charities such as AIDS Help and the Gay and Lesbian Community Center, so the longer Phelps remained in town, the more money he would help raise for gay-friendly service organizations.


"This cannot be personal," said McMurray, who is gay. "Once it becomes personal, we're operating on his level."


J.T. Thompson, a graphic designer who founded the "One Human Family" movement, emphasized that confrontation with Phelps and his group will not serve any purpose.


"This guy earns a living making confrontations happen," Thompson said. "It will be a good day in the fact that we can unite people here. The meeting will gather input to unite the community in a peaceful, positive and loving response."


Protests at Tiller's funeral.
We are all entitled to our opinions about abortion but for God sakes people....why do we feel the need to protest at someone's funeral.  Isn't the family going through enough.  Their loved one was gunned down and now you are protesting at his funeral.  I'm pro-life and these protests at his funeral upset even me.  It is hard enough attending a funeral service of a loved one without this added drama and craziness.
Protests erupt in Iraq in support of shoe-throwing reporter
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Politics/?id=3.0.2815505803

No. I love the country side in Alabama...I'm a country girl...nm

Yes killing this country - have you been out of the country the last 3 months or so
Don't you have a clue as to what is happening in America? Where have you been? Don't you listen to what is happening or are you still drinking the kool-aid. That time is over. Put the aid down and wake up. The country is being destroyed. These have been the worst 4 months in the history of bad presidents. Foreclosures are on the rise, unemployment is on the rise, 3+ trillion more in deficit and on the rise, companies shutting down, Clinton for SoS. Napolitano - one of the biggest tragedies to happen to America. The list goes on and on and on and on.

Dubya is not in office anymore. You think dubya "pulled the trigger", well the O keeps reloading it and continues to pull the trigger.
ACORN
I heard on the news that ACORN also received some money in the bailout package, put in by democrats!! Guess who was involved with ACORN...
ACORN
Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now....... the nation's largest community organization of low and moderate income families working ...

Don't be fooled by the last part about working. While they have done some good for some people, they are mostly about getting votes. They have had many of their people indicted for voter fraud. THey are up again for investigation for this very same thing. Obama has thrown over $800,000 to them to help hire more people to get on the streets and coerce folks into registering to vote, even if they are already registered.

They have been found to fradulently doctor papers to appear as a registered voter, including deceased, homeless, even nonexistent names and addresses.

Acorn
HA, the truth comes out!  Sen Obama's very small relationship to Acorn was in 1982 when he was involved with a group called project vote.  Acorn was also loosely involved in that.  However, Sen John McCain was involved with them, Acorn, just two years ago and had much praise for the group.  And interestingly enough, the ONLY people that are trying to tie Obama to the group is the McCain campaign.  Kind of funny how McCain works.  Palin and McCain's wife complain that Obama voted not to fund the troops and yet McCain, two months after Obama turned it down (and ONLY because there was no time table written in) McCain also turns it down, because they wrote in a time table.  How does his wife feel about that?  They both voted NO on the same issue.  McCain is sickening. 
ACORN is very serious
I'm in Ohio and we're smack dab in the middle of it. I don't care who's involved with it, someone needs to do something and all Jennifer Brunner is doing is tying up the courts with her stupid appeals. Something needs to be done because if not, whoever wins the election, the other side will be able to challenge because of all the fraudulent votes cast - then we'll go through the 2000 election 100x worse!
oh-h acorn

various community organizations who hired people to sign up new voters.  How s-c-a-r-y is that???


 


oh yea, acorn
have you seen their building. It's some funeral home or something in Louisiana that's supposed to house over 250 businesses....shaaaaa! Glen Beck's been covering it.
Regarding ACORN...
I heard this morning that ACORN may be supplying empolyees to the Census Department to conduct the census next year - anyone else hear this? Just curious because I'm just not sure how they would get away with that, seeing as though they are under investigation in nine states.
I am sure that ACORN was

probably started with the best of intentions, but there are just too many issues that have come up with them that makes me think they are a corrupt organization. 


I guess they said that ACORN as well as other organizations like the NAACP were to get 1.4 million volunteers for the 2010 census.  I need to do some more research on this to see actually how much they will be involved in the actual census.  There involvement in any of it....I personally feel is wrong but I guess we will just have to wait and see how this plays out.


With the help of ACORN he got 59% -

ACORN
Any ideas of why ACORN changed their name to Community Organizers International?
Obama and ACORN...
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/05/obamas-acorn/
That would have been 30 billion to ACORN of the...sm
return on the investments. That and other returns going to special interests.


Think about it. This is an investment. NOT a bailout. They need to get rid of that word.


If the dems wanted to write in 30 billion dollars to the ACORN from future profits....and others....they know this is an investment.


They need to tell the public this.


These profits need to be returned to the taxpayer, and to Social Security and pay down the national debt.


Not more special interests.





That's a big holdup of all the add ons that the dems put on, that need to be changed for the good of the people.


They need to get back closer to three pages....instead of 103 pages of earmarks for special interests.




More on the Acorn mess....
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/26/the-democratic-acorn-bailout/
Yes, and how about the bailout, ACORN, and
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Ask ACORN. They are the ones who submitted...
a voter registration in that name.
Another ACORN raid...

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/07/acorn-vegas-office-raided-voter-fraud-investigation/


Where the Democrats in congress wanted a percentage of the bailout payback to go. 


About time they stop letting ACORN register voters...ya think??


This is ACORN in a nutshell.....

This is a group that wants more and more people to be dependent on them.  The more you depend on them, the less you do for yourself, the more dependent you become on the government.....it's like a snowball effect, and they know exactly what they are doing.  LET US THINK FOR YOU should be their motto!!!


http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5365


They are investigating ACORN.
except in the right-wing fringer's manifesto. People who chant this mantra cannot be taken seriously. Goudpainter is one of the few honest and sensible posters on this board. In the United States of America, we are allowed to have doubts and change our minds. She has not come out in support of Obama and is having an issue with her write-in that may or may not resolve itself in the next 19 days. The lying hypocrite slur is unfounded, uncalled for and just goes to show us all how losing an election is making some people "lose it."
This is where I blame ACORN

I think registered voters should have to prove their knowledge on the matters at hand prior to voting.  Just a 5 or 10-question test to make sure they know their candidate's policies. 


Do we really want our "welfare" society to determine our next President?  That's what ACORN is making sure will happen.


acorn - bertha

Saw on TV last night an ACORN ad with "Bertha" and she sure didn't sound bipartisan to me.  hmmmmm..


 


The money would only go to ACORN
on the Community Block Grants for revitalization of low-income neighborhoods and Community Service Grants to provide social services to the residents. There are other organizations that also provide these services who would be involved in the bidding. It is part of the nonprofit stimulus fund of the package. Non-profit organizations that provide social support and services are seeing increasing demands for assistance in the current economic crisis.



Can you say ACORN? talk about
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How about te big thank-you chunk for ACORN?
That been taken out too?
What?! We should be protesting ACORN
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Acorn is over in Iran too?

LMAO.


Then ACORN should start by getting rid of
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That may be included as well...but the ACORN thing...
is something that Dodd wanted attached which has nothing to do with the average Joe...and as I said, ACORN is being sued in multiple states and is under investigation in detroit right now for voter fraud. NONE of ANY federal funds should be going to that group. Period. In my opinion. And CERTAINLY not part of a financial bailout.
ACORN is definitely an economic issue.....
When thousands of fraudulent voters are going to the polls being counted as a vote, even though they do not truly exist in the first place, and Obama gets elected due to voter fraud, which he himself has paid to help enforce, how do you not see that as affecting our economy?

The majority of those dumb enough to help with the fraud are sadly enough easily led individuals who can't think for themselves and just do what they are told. They help to put a man in office who is going to tax them even more and they don't have the sense to know it! You don't think that affects your economy?

By the way, I am Independent.. McCain does't rock my boat either but Obama makes me want to puke!
Just saw a lady on tv admitting to be with ACORN
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I know my ignorance is showing, but what is ACORN? nm
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ACORN is a community organization
since its inception. It is the latest weapon the pubs have in their arsenal of smear tactics. They are using this yet to be concluded investigation as a way to imply that Obama is actively trying to throw the election. Voter fraud is something the pubs know a thing or two about. They wrote the book, so at least this most recent tactic is coming from a place of intimate familiarity for them. What is puzzling is just how they can make voter fraud charges stick BEFORE the ballots are cast. By the way, there is a whole lot more to the subject of voter fraud than the ACORN saga. it has to do with te long-needed overhaul of election protocl that pubs have historically bristled at every time it surfaces in political rhetoric, but they do not hesitate to try to use it to try to resurrect an anemic campaign strategy. They are desperately trying to place AL their eggs in this basket to try to overturn O's momentum in the polls and on the electoral map, but time is running out and so far, those Hail Mary's haven't been scoring too many points for the Straight Talk Express.
ACORN has already admitted to fraud.
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LOL. I am in Ohio. ACORN is blatantly asking
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Haven't posted anything on ACORN until
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Did ya'll hear that ACORN
registered Mickey Mouse?  The registration was thrown out obviously but they actually turned it in. I saw it on TV this morning.  If this wasn't so serious, I might have actually chuckled at this but this is horrible.  I hope they hold some of these quacks accountable. 
Well, for ACORN it is about race....the more blacks
The blacks that have been truthful have spoken out and said that the corrupt group ACORN has PUSHED them to vote for Obama, telling them how much better their lives would be, etc., etc., and they will get a big 'ole check every month, courtesy of the hard working folks. And all they gotta do is sign on the dotted line. These are black people speaking out because they know something is very wrong with this picture.

Too bad the O lovers don't see anything wrong with this picture.
Obama says he was ONLY an attorney for ACORN
He conveniently forgot to state the fact that he gave ACORN 800,000 dollars to ACORN.  
Like Ayers and Wright and ACORN?
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FBI is investigating Bama's ACORN
Of course you don't take the serious issues seriously.

The only thing you take seriously is propaganda from Obama, 'cause it's easier to let someone else do the thinking for you.

You've proven yourself to be a lying hypocrite. (I'm independent. I'm voting for Lou dobbs. I'm not for Obama.)

Pathetic.
ACORN gets bashed because they are a FRAUD!
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