Fine, Obama is Christian -my question is
Posted By: independent on 2008-08-13
In Reply to: I meant - State the truth, not rumor
Why did he stay with a church for 20 years that spewed hatred for the USA and was racist as well? Rev. Wright..... you have seen the tapes? When asked, Obama denies he witnessed the Rev. speaking this way..and if he had, he would have left the church before. Do you actually believe that? I mean, come on! The two of them were very close, admittedly so. Sometimes, you are judged by the company you keep and the friends that surround you. You may not think that is fair, but I have a right to feel this way.... and I do! I myself have NEVER claimed Obama is a Muslim. I don't go with rumors, but I can't ignore what I see and hear with my own eyes and ears.
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FINE! JOE BIDEN SAID OBAMA WAS NOT...
READY TO BE PRESIDENT!! Which is worse??? Geez.
Not necessary to defend Obama. He's doing just fine
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Obama will do just fine with hostile leaders.
Actually, understanding Islamic principles will serve the man of his intelligence quite well when up against either Ahmadinejad or with Israel. Obama knows exactly what to do with facing hostility. He certainly has faced enough of it on the home front here during the filthy word wars waged by the media and in fanatic chat room posts and has demonstrated the capacity to stoop to those low levels with the best of them. However, beyond the election, he will have not use for such petty, meaningless tactics and strategies. He is calm, collected and calculated in his responses, or lack there of, and has an uncanny ability to be conciliatory without having to compromise his basic values or objectives. Will be a breath of fresh air to see somebody at least try an approach that is not designed to promote US imperialism, world economic domination or the war of the civilizations.
Second paragraph of your post. It's all in the perspective, point-of-view and public perceptions. Being a good democrat does not necessarily make him a Washington insider, despite his long career. It only means that he knows his way around there and that his constituents continue to send him back there election, after election after election. Somebody somewhere must like him a lot. No further comment on your personal opinion. Sour grapes over an excellent pick. Let's see if McCain can show as much good judgment.
Fine. I just thought it was bad taste, and I am no Obama fan.
But whatever I guess.
Amazing garbage by the Obama campaign you are fine with....
and dirty doesn't even come close. Have a man investigated because he asked a question?? Talk about UNAmerican. Where is the ACLU? Where are all you liberal civil rights folks?? Where is the outrage? Geez. THAT is truly amazing.
Oh please, Obama Christian?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn-P3yAaAqI
Obama mocks the Bible. No christian would mock Sermon on the Mount.
Wolf in sheep's clothing. BEWARE, VERY DISTURBING. Take it with a grain of salt. Talks about the future mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9P15YZrnv0&feature=related
Obama professes to be a Christian and...
Joe Biden is a practicing catholic...McCain goes to a Baptist Church and Palin an interdenominational one...so no matter who is elected, there is going to be religion in the White House. I would venture a guess that the majority of congress also religious...Pelosi is a practicing Catholic, all the Kennedys are Catholics...
Obama professes to be Christian...
would not classify him as meek.
I do not understand this out of control hatred for someone just because she does not share your view of the world. Where does that come from?
Geez. People in Alaska afraid of her because people lost their jobs? How is she going to track people down from an anonymous poll and fire them? That makes absolutely no sense...and since all of Alaska does not work for the state, that would be difficult at best.
Sigh.
Shame on you. I am a Christian for Obama and...sm
would be happy to have a button or a bumper sticker saying so! What is your problem? The republicans mus think that only non Christians are for Obama. That is VERY far from the truth. McCain could put out a bumper sticker that said space aliens for McCain and you would think that is fine.
Obama has said several times that he was a Christian...
but of course, that always came on the heels of being accused of being Muslim. He plays the religion card when it suits him.
Obama has repeatedly described himself as a Christian.
I'm going to take him at his word, not that it matters much to me which religion he practices. What matters to me is his character, and I'd put that way above some that I've witnessed on this board.
America is NOT "only" a Christian nation any longer. America promises freedom of religion for EVERYONE, not just Christians.
Do YOU stone your children for straying?
How about slavery? (My guess is you're in favor of that one.)
He was just pointing out that sometimes literal translations of the Bible aren't applicable. In other words, he made sense. 
And Obama chose to be Christian,
is he's not trying to push his religion down everyone else's unwilling throats.
You want to be in everyone's bedrooms, whether it's for gay marriage, birth control, abortion, etc.
You want everyone to walk in lock step with you on social issues, and this is exactly why the Republicans are in the toilet. Americans want to choose their own paths and not have these things forced upon us by a group that claims that only THEY hold the exclusive keys to heaven.
By the way, did you know that Muslims believe that Jesus was a messenger from God (via virginal conception) who had been sent to guide the children of Israel??
I think that Obama sees himself as Christian, but
the Muslins see him as Muslim because his father is Muslim.
If O stays silent, believe me, it is not because he takes sides, it is because now it is better to be cautious than confrontational.
If O is a powerless puppet why do you then constantly put him down and criticize him?
Since Kennedy all president are puppets pulled by very elite people, true. And these elite people picked Obama as winner soon after he declared himself a candidate, because he is so charismatic, similar to Kennedy (I heard this also in this video 'The Obama Deception'), true.
Amd yes, the Iranian people are screwed, also true.
But believe me, Obama, puppet or no puppet, till now proved himself to be a very good diplomat.
I am much more interested in the foreign politics than in the domestic stuff, that's boring.
Obama is a CHRISTIAN. He supports equal rights...sm
for all people including gay people. I think that the radical Christian right are the gay haters.
I have lots of Christian friends who are democrats and support Obama. nm
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Just participating in a Christian church does not make you a Christian (sm)
Everyone who goes to a Christian church is not automatically a Christian. Only God knows if you truly are or not. He could easily still have Muslim values and attend a Christian church. Does he? I have NO IDEA. I really don't know. What I DO KNOW is that the Christian church he attended did not teach what God wants to be taught. I know that from the Bible because we are not supposed to preach hate or damnation, yet that is what his minister preached, LOUDLY.
.Sure, O is Christian. His mother was Christian
his father Muslim. In Indonesia, where O spent 4 years, age 7 to 11, he attended a catholic school and received outside the school Islamic teachings.
When he was 12 his mother took him back to the US into the care of her mother and the rest is history......
then you should be fine
This is yet another fine..
reason to stay out of Wal-Mart. If everyone who is so upset about words would put the same amount of energy into confronting Wal-Mart about all their real sins we would all be a lot better off.
It's fine....
I'm probably still upset about Howard Dean being run out of the race way back when... I'm just sick of the whole scene.
Fine: s/m
Then you can sit down for crumpets and tea with all the madmen who hate America for our freedom. Keep in mind that unless you believe in this radical Islam (2 more words which the drive-by media has completely eradicated) you (including Obama) are an infidel. A close friend of my husband (mine, too) is from Iran. He's as active in conservative politics as many of us are. Gee, I wonder why...
Fine by me........
As far as I'm concerned, the UN definitely has no credibility and never has. It is a joke of an organization and one the U.S. DOES NOT belong in!!! They wouldn't know credibility if it slapped them in the face let alone credibility of a good woman.
no name is fine and not every uses me and
maybe I've missed something but I've never seen anyone sign their messages I. I could be wrong, but I've never seen it.
The reason is your and my viewpoints differ so much. There are too many people switching names on a daily basis and I prefer to just keep it to me. That way people won't think I've gone off the deep end or taking any drugs when you spew your fabrications about O'No.
If that happens, fine. But at least I will have had NOTHING to do with it...
and I can live with that.
Thanks, she's doing fine
have to wait for bx results. I think no news is good news. Appreciate the prayers!
That's fine with me
it's been needing some livening up anyways! :)
Thanks. I will be fine
I could see it coming for the past few months and had cut my hours back. Also, I have always had 1 or 2 other jobs just to protect myself.
I had sent out some resumes over the past few months because I had a bad feeling about the hospital, and actually started a new job the day after I got the bad news. The money is not as good, but it is better than not getting paid at all!
Everything is not fine in our country
... but I will put my flag up on the 4th of July.
I find it so sad that our country is so very divided and the ugliness and meaness has come out of everyone's mouths.
It seems that some of it is the religious versus the nonreligious, the gay and the hetero, our way or no way..
no matter who is president, we are all equal and should all be treated wiht respect.
Peace.
Yes, they are very fine words..
written by some very fine minds. Ghandi says much the same. I think I'll stick with the great minds. Cat bites and scratches dangerous ?...sometimes...people who mistreat animals or wish them harm dangerous ?...always.
Those are really fine words.
However, if the cat is harming human life, and everyone knows how toxic a cat scratch or bite can be, and the owner refuses to maintain her animal, what is the solution? Maybe a new home.
That's fine if you want to be told
you aren't worthy of an MRI, right? Because it's too expensive?
Oh I don't know, you are doing a heck of a fine job...
passing off insult as intelligence. You have it down to a fine art. Verrryyy impressive. "Certainly the issues seem to be a big taboo." Well I suppose so...since I have asked you a very simple question repeatedly and you can't seem to stop with the insults long enough to answer it....lol.
As to plagiarizing...rather than do that, you just post under different monikers...to support your own argument I guess? Ahem. Ego need a little stroking there?
Hope you find some of that substantive conversation. Heaven only knows who would sit through a 20-minute dissertation hoping that at some time a point would emerge or just one little question would be answered. Good luck!
that's all well and fine, but today's
world never sees any racism as funny, so given the serious nature of this particular board, humor just did not come on the radar.
Sure she was fine with you until she wised up
and brings up talking points that represent concerns of the democratic party. Nothing wrong with considering all sides to a story.
She will handle herself just fine....
better than O, at the very least as well. And she is the #2 person...not the #1. We elect him, we get him day 1, and all the experience (limited though it is) is #2 on your ticket.
Just fine isn't good enough. nm
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You have your opinion, and that is fine....
I have mine.
No need to ridicule. If you don't believe, fine....
but no need to ridicule. If a rabbit's foot was lucky it would still be on the rabbit...?
not to put too fine a point on it, but
It was because gas was too expensive this summer, so people just skipped the soda at the gas station. (that is actually the truth).
We're actually fine, thanks for asking...
we are pretty good at managing our finances; we were also taught at a young age to save our money, to not put it all in the stock market, plus we are debt free but the house. Should something happen to our jobs, we have a year's living expenses put away for that. The media would have you believe everyone is living hand to mouth, has lost all their money in the stock market, and are one step from declaring bankruptcy or being homeless, and that just isn't the case.
She seemed just fine. Comedy might be a
MLO
Another fine example of the "pot" again
:)
Fine. Then you should understand it when I say....
Obama will get my respect when he earns it. Just as I would expectg if McCain had won he would have had to earn your respect...and would never have gotten it, right? Can't we just be HONEST about this? lol.
Okay, fine. That is hypocritical
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Did you ever think that speaking is fine, but
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I'm perfectly fine with that.
Thanks Amanda - you explained it well. I had never heard the term anchor babies. If they are born in the US then that's fine for president.
fine point
you've made there.
I think it is perfectly fine -
You also have to take into account the differences in what one generation feels is appropriate and what the next generation feels is appropriate.
I can remember when I was younger being told I could not even wear jeans to McDonald's when applying for a job, that I needed to wear a dress. Now, with the new generation, you don't even need your "BEST" jeans on - anything goes.
Going for a business interview? Well, forget the dress and panty hose... wear a pantsuit or a dress with bare legs.
At least Obama still has on a dress shirt and a tie, and I am sure the jacket is there available when it is needed.
I also read that one of the problems is that Obama does not like the cold and he keeps the thermostat turned to an uncomfortable high if you have on a jacket.
The Lake is just fine
It used to be horribly polluted but it is fine now. My uncle and aunt own a cabin on Middle Bass Island which is right across from Put-In-Bay. My uncle fishes for Walleye out of the lake all the time. In fact, I was worried he was one of the idiots caught out on the ice that had to be rescued. LOL! Thankfully he was not, but he could have very easily been. He loves to ice fish. We used to vacation there every year with my aunt and uncle.
I think he would handle it just fine...(sm)
However, I don't believe a man should be measured solely based on his ability to fight. I'll take brains over brawn any day.
That's OK. I'm sure you can put your trust in fine,
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