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Posted By: Just me on 2008-11-05
In Reply to: First, congratulations to Obama for his historic win.... - sam
I saw a nasty post by just me. That poster is not me. I've been agreeing with you on most issues throughout this time.
You are correct. He needs to earn respect before it is given. Like you I do not trust this guy. He lied to us so much it was like watching Bill Clinton all over again. And we all know what we got when Clinton took office - The Shaft! Clinton was one of the biggest disgraces of all Presidents and he lost all respect shortly after he took office and broke all his campaign promises. So in mine (and many of my friends and acquaintances) Clinton was not a real president but just someone who held the office and sat in the chair.
I hope Obama does good for the people like he has promised. Time will tell. Still uncomfortable about having to work more hours so that way they can give it to the people who don't want to work. You know that sounds like such a good system I told DH he should jump on the bandwagon. At least the extra money I'd be paying in taxes, he would get as a free check for not doing anything. Then at lease we could keep it in the family.
I listened to O's speech last night and he already started talking about some of his campaign promises are going to have to be broken. Funny how he has a way with words that he can say he's going to screw you and everyone feels good about it.
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My #1 match is Chuck Baldwin (constitution party) 55.32% Hooray! Good to know I really am an independent. My second match was McCain at 44.68%, then Bob Barr (Libertarian)at 40.43%. Next was Ralph Nader, then Obama. Loved it, glad to know that Socialism is way down on my list.
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great post
Im amazed at how much debate I have caused on both boards, LOL! I have become *the* poster to be talked about, attacked, compared to. Thank you for your refreshing post replying to IMHO a mean spirited obviously very troubled conservative poster. This person has been on my case since day one, along with her two cohorts. Frankly, from what I can see, they are just about the only ones who consistently post on the conservative board. I guess others after a while get tired of the attack mode or just give up trying to debate logically and intelligently. They say Im a lunatic and certifiable. By reading their nasty posts, If anyone is certifiable, they are. They say they are Christian. Not like any Christian I have ever know. The Christians I grew up with were nice, caring, accepting people. Not judgmental hateful closed minded individuals. I perused the conservative board this morning, just to see which republican they are admiring this morning or which democrat they are dogging and OMG, Im being posted about all over the board. A few posted yesterday and right away they started asking were the posters gt!! I cracked up laughing this morning. No, I wasnt on their board posting. I was in Mexico for the weekend and got back this morning..Gee, I generated this much attention and publicity by just posting on one little board in the vast expanse of the World Wide Web. Amazing! After reading their troubling posts, with all their attacks (one says she never attacks, yet one of her favorite words from what I have read is troll), I have decided not to read the conservative board any more. I frankly dont need their negative energy..I feel sorry for all three of them. They sound like they are angry bitter fools, clinging to a way and thought of life, so afraid frankly of anyone else with different and/or better ideas for this country. Some people will never change and expand their consciousness as these three have proven to me. This board I will continue to read and post from time to time, as it is a good open minded and accepting board and if the conservatives post an attack to me pertaining to this post, I will not read it nor respond.
Great post
Thank you for this post..It was a good one. :o)
Great post gt!
Clinton always did know how to speak in clear terms about the basics of a matter - and speak to all people in plain language. Mystifying how Dubya's supporters claim he's the plain-talking one when every time he opens his mouth he's twisting the topic completely out of recognition or else just babbling incoherently.
LOL! Great post!!
Great post.
Couldn't agree with you more. 
Great post, PK; thanks.
great post!!! thanks :)
Great post
Excellent points regarding health care, insurance, taxes. This is a conservative viewpoint. Less taxes brings in more revenue, but congress rarely gets it.
I agree that whoever is elected will not accomplish all stated promises/goals. That's always the case. So many believe that the president has power to do whatever he wants, but that is not the case and never has been.
Great Post...Thank You!
That makes it crystal clear!
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GREAT post! Thank you!
Great post! You just know that if
the tables were turned they wouldn't want their money taken either. I have found that the people who moan and complain the most about not having any money are the ones who are in debt to the hilt, have never been taught to save a cent, blame the CC companies for making them charge so much and then expect the gov't to help them out in some way. How about this novel scenario: Work hard, save some money, don't try to outdo the neighbors with material things and take some responsibility. Don't expect a mere man who spouts pretty words and promises and only wants your vote to take care of you. Quit blaming the republicans, Bush, outsourcing, Wall Street fat cats, etc, and look in the mirror. The gov't cannot solve all your problems, be self-sufficient for once.
Great post!
My favorite part is:
IF I am wrong one day when I meet my Creator I will find out and I'll take my Creator's answer any day over anyone who is reading something from a book I don't believe in.
IMHO, that's how freedom of religion is supposed to work. Ironically, sometimes the only way to guarantee alleged freedom of religion is to have freedom FROM it.
It is a very personal issue that is ultimately between you and your Creator, not someone who demands to push their religious views on you.
I recently heard a pastor give a prayer before a McCain rally, where he actually "warned" GOD that God's "reputation" is on the line here, and that God had better make sure that McCain becomes President or else those who believe in different "Gods" will "win."
This guy was essentially telling God to get his act together! 
Great post!
This is an intelligent, straightforward, unbiased post. The MTs on this board should take note of it and learn from it.
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Great post. Thanks :)
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What a great post!
I agree 100% with you, geek.
I also compare him to JFK:
Obama is elegant, a great, charismatic speaker, he has a wonderful voice, he is magnetic, honest, diplomatic, seldom aggressive and much more....
His speach during his last campaign in Orlando/Florida was the best ever, it was just overwhelming.
Great post, GP.
And I couldn't agree more about pardons for the two border patrol agents. Instead, Bush's pardons have largely consisted of crooks who were involved in the savings and loan scandal of the 1980s. Given today's current banking crooks and the shambles of the global economy, that says a lot about Bush's "morals" that he would prefer to pardon banking crooks instead of two brave men who were merely doing their jobs.
I think one of the biggest -- if not THE biggest -- injustice in my memory is those two men even spending one minute in jail.
Great post - thanks.
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Great post!
You summed it up beautifully. Thanks.
Wow! Right on - great post
I agree so much and could not have said it any better. They are knighting him calling him the savior and he hasn't even taken office yet. Time will tell whether he is a good president or not.
Thank you for your post.
Great post! (sm)
I couldn't agree more. For starters, though I'm certainly no fan of Iran, after seeing what the USA did to its neighbor, Iraq, why WOULDN'T I want to have a nuclear weapon if I were Iran?
And why IS Israel allowed to have a nuclear weapon (probably paid for by US)?
After decades of "Israel is the chosen one and can do no wrong," I truly hope we become more even handed when dealing with the Middle East. There are two sides to every story. In my opinion, Israel's disproportionate response to the Palestinians a few weeks ago showed the world a LOT.
Some objectivity and accountability, I think, is needed and long overdue when we deal with Israel and her actions.
As far as being "brave," your post was a lot more brave (and well written) than mine, and I agree with everything you wrote.
Great post! (sm)
I couldn't agree more. For starters, though I'm certainly no fan of Iran, after seeing what the USA did to its neighbor, Iraq, why WOULDN'T I want to have a nuclear weapon if I were Iran?
And why IS Israel allowed to have a nuclear weapon (probably paid for by US)?
After decades of "Israel is the chosen one and can do no wrong," I truly hope we become more even handed when dealing with the Middle East. There are two sides to every story. In my opinion, Israel's disproportionate response to the Palestinians a few weeks ago showed the world a LOT.
Some objectivity and accountability, I think, is needed and long overdue when we deal with Israel and her actions.
As far as being "brave," your post was a lot more brave (and well written) than mine, and I agree with everything you wrote.
Great post, gee. (sm)
The more he fails, the worse it will be for us all. I hope he succeeds.
Great post! (sm)
The fact that the forgotten people you describe live in what is claimed to be the richest country on earth is appalling.
I thought your post was excellent. Thank you.
Great post! (sm)
The fact that the forgotten people you describe live in what is claimed to be the richest country on earth is appalling.
I thought your post was excellent. Thank you.
Thank you! Great post!
After Jindal read his rebuttal tonight, this article is even MORE insightful.
Great post...sm
My favorite? If you're greener than Gore, you're green enough.
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Thank you. Great post. (sm)
I didn't agree with it when Bush did it (with Obama's support via his Senate vote), and I don't agree with it now.
I believe NO company in this country should ever be "too big to fail," and I believe all of these banks should have been allowed to survive or die on their own merits.
Furthermore, the "transparency" that was promised, so far has been nonexistent, and I'm against this, as well.
Anyway, I thought you wrote an awesome post. Thank you.
:-) - Great post
I've been following your messages for some time and you always put great thought into what you say. You don't let your emotions take you away (like I do), and you always just tell it like it is. I like your "Dave Mann the Caveman" statement. Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth. Sometimes people would rather just sit in their homes and continue to be dumbed down and think everything is hunky-dory. I have a BIL who refuses to listen to any bad news because "I can't handle it". But there are us out there who want to know the truth. We will listen to everything no matter how "weird" it may sound. Because that "weird theory" may just be the truth. So thanks for posts. Always insightful and fun to read.
Very well said - thank you for a great post
There's more I could say, but won't. Your post is very insightful and true.
Thanks for posting.
See my message under the post below (nm)
Above post should be see message.
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I think your post would have done better - see message
on the faith board. Your stating your views based on your religious ideas and values and that is all fine and good, but that is where this post belongs. If you post there I'm sure you will get a lot of the support you are looking for. It sounds to me you didn't want anyone to oppose your viewpoint. You labeled them "ugly responses", my viewpoint on reading them is that they are how other people feel about the issue. Because they don't agree with yours of course they seem "ugly" to you.
Also reading your post above you say you now know Jesus is real, and you stated "...I can tell you that I pray God forgive you for your blindness and hate just as He forgave me when I surrendered my life to Him." etc, etc, etc. That is your faith and like I said that's all fine but it is your faith-based opinion and beliefs, not everyone else believes the same way you do. Again if you take it to the faith board you will find the much support you are looking for.
Your last paragraph you mentioned that someone made a choice of life for me. Yes they did. I had parents who wanted to have children and hence here I am. The statement "why would you want to deny that for another innocent baby" That statement is just silly. You'd rather see a child spend 18 years or more living a life of he!! in a drug/alcohol induced family situation with the possibility of being abused emotionally or physically. You'd rather see a child feel unloved and unwanted. That's a little sadist if you ask me. If the embryo is aborted there is no one to feel like they are being deprived of anything.
As for you calling our president "evil"???? I don't consider someone who is fighting for woman to have the right to choose evil. He celebrates death instead of life????? Oh please, sorry but that statement is not going to win you any support here.
BTW - I may not agree with some of the presidents policies that he's passing, but in no way is he evil. Again, that is another "faith-based" emotion and belongs on the faith board.
Great post!! And I will put out my flag, too.
We are so divided in this country that sometimes I think we're headed for another civil war.
But we are still all Americans, and we've got to find a way to come together.
I remember how it seemed the entire country came together after 9/11. I hope that can happen again without such a tragedy preceding it.
I hope you and your family have a blessed 4th!!!
Great post, Starcat!
My rule of thumb is to compare the credibility of Bush and Sergeant Major Haney. Bush lies to me on practically a daily basis, so my inclination and common sense tells me to believe the Sergeant Major.
I often wonder if we will have another *terror* attack (maybe a small nuclear one) in order to (a) justify a nuclear war with Iran and/or (b) to frighten people into believing (before the November elections, with an instantaneous government *response*) that Republicans are the only ones who can keep us safe (if it looks like they will lose control of the House and Senate).
I guess time will tell, and I pray that no more Americans will have to die. 
To Starcat....GREAT POST...sm
Yours was a GREAT post. I believe the entire thing was a scam and I am an evacuee of an airport *newark NJ* on 9/11 a.m.
Everything you said, about the warnings during the elections and then after the elections, all the warnings stopped...hit the nail on the head!!
The poster under us says that they think we are in the minority.......NOT SO....just today we have to shut our mouths.......because BIG BROTHER is watching.
This president is just plain stupid....do you see all the things that come out of his mouth? David Letterman shows them, Jay Leno shows them, Conon O'Brien shows them....et al, ad nauseum. Bush is an EMBARRASSMENT to ALL OF US, and for the ones who cannot *see* this? Something is wrong with them too.
GREAT POST, Starcat!!!
GMTA = great minds think alike 
GREAT post, Piglet....you said it 4 me..sm
this sentence you said....you summed it up for me, what I feel and my thoughts
*Pro-life to me means anti-war, anti-starvation, anti-subjugation, etcetera, for all living things.*
YOU_GOT_IT!!
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yea sista - you tell them - great post
This is about the most unintilligable thing I have ever heard. They'll rant and rave at someone who says I won't vote for a man because he's not white, but they turn around and spew I won't vote for her because she was in a beauty pagent. Oh please....its so rediculous I have to laugh.
Truth is...they have not researched anything about her. We have been watching MSNBC for years and really like that station, but yesterday my DH said that without them saying anything about her as governer and what she has done for Alaska or anything they were cutting her down and making fun of her. Really showed me I need to start listening to another station.
People - if you are going to make such ignoramus remarks like I won't vote for someone cos their black or they are pretty or whatever reason then I don't want the next president to be picked by people of your unknowledgebable base.
Do the research and put your hatred aside until you know everything about a person.
Great post..."EyesWideOpen"
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Great post, Tired MT. I am with you! nm
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By jove, I think she's got it! :) Great post! nm
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