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Head of FEMA fired from previous job

Posted By: Zauber on 2005-09-03
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Take a look at THIS info:
(source http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/2/34622/68348)

Yes, that's right... the man responsible for directing federal relief operations in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, sharpened his emergency management skills as the Judges and Stewards Commissioner for the International Arabian Horses Association... a position from which he was forced to resign in the face of mounting litigation and financial disarray.

And what of that misleading White House press release?

'From 1991 to 2001, Brown was the Commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association, an international subsidiary of the national governing organization of the U.S. Olympic Committee.'

I can't even begin to fact check the dates or IAHA's alleged relationship to the US Olympic Committee, because of course, the IAHA doesn't exist anymore, so there's nothing to Google. But it begs the question... how the hell did his prior job experience prepare Brown to head FEMA?

Well, judging by his agency's performance over the past few days... it didn't.

[Cross-posted at HorsesAss.org]

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Apparently, experience had nothing to do with Bush's bid for the presidency, and so he hands out agency posts like lollipops to his friends regardless of their competence or experience also.
The result is that thousands die unnecessarily on many continents. No one ever gets punished for this. Instead they get the Medal of Honor or civilian equivalent. They get promoted.


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and he fired the head of GM (which sm
he probably needed to go) but Obama is sitting up there taking Air Force one and spending all this money. No better than the GM execs, the AIG execs, all of it. Transparency? What a joke he is!
FEMA needs a major overhaul...Doctor says FEMA ordered him to stop treating hurricane victims.
Doctor says FEMA ordered him to stop treating hurricane victims



In the midst of administering chest compressions to a dying woman several days after Hurricane Katrina struck, Dr. Mark N. Perlmutter was ordered to stop by a federal official because he wasn't registered with the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

I begged him to let me continue, said Perlmutter, who left his home and practice as an orthopedic surgeon in Pennsylvania to come to Louisiana and volunteer to care for hurricane victims. People were dying, and I was the only doctor on the tarmac (at the Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport) where scores of nonresponsive patients lay on stretchers. Two patients died in front of me.

I showed him (the U.S. Coast Guard official in charge) my medical credentials. I had tried to get through to FEMA for 12 hours the day before and finally gave up. I asked him to let me stay until I was replaced by another doctor, but he refused. He said he was afraid of being sued. I informed him about the Good Samaritan laws and asked him if he was willing to let people die so the government wouldn't be sued, but he would not back down. I had to leave.

FEMA issued a formal response to Perlmutter's story, acknowledging that the agency does not use voluntary physicians.

We have a cadre of physicians of our own, FEMA spokesman Kim Pease said Thursday. They are the National Disaster Medical Team. ... The voluntary doctor was not a credentialed FEMA physician and, thus, was subject to law enforcement rules in a disaster area.






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A Coast Guard spokesman said he was looking into the incident but was not able to confirm it.

Perlmutter, Dr. Clark Gerhart and medical student Alison Torrens flew into Baton Rouge on a private jet loaned by a Pennsylvania businessman several days after Katrina hit. They brought medicine and supplies with them. They stayed the first night in Baton Rouge and persuaded an Army Blackhawk helicopter pilot to fly them into New Orleans the next day.

I was going to make it happen, the orthopedic surgeon said. I was at Ground Zero too, and I had to lie to get in there.

At the triage area in the New Orleans airport, Perlmutter was successful in getting FEMA to accept the insulin and morphine he had brought. The pharmacist told us they were completely out of insulin and our donation would save numerous lives. Still, I felt we were the most-valuable resource, and we were sent away.

Gerhart said the scene they confronted at the airport was one of hundreds of people lying on the ground, many soaked in their own urine and feces, some coding (dying) before our eyes. FEMA workers initially seemed glad for help and asked Gerhart to work inside the terminal and Perlmutter to work out on the tarmac. They were told only a single obstetrician had been on call at the site for the past 24 hours.

Then, the Coast Guard official informed the group that he could not credential them or guarantee tort coverage and that they should return to Baton Rouge. That shocked me, that those would be his concerns in a time of emergency, Gerhart said.

Transported back to Baton Rouge, Perlmutter's frustrated group went to state health officials who finally got them certified -- a simple process that took only a few seconds.

I found numerous other doctors in Baton Rouge waiting to be assigned and others who were sent away, and there was no shortage of need, he said.

Perlmutter spent some time at the Department of Health and Hospital's operational center at Jimmy Swaggart Ministries before moving to the makeshift Kmart Hospital doctors established at an abandoned store to care for patients. After organizing an orthopedics room and setting up ventilators there, Perlmutter went back to the Swaggart Center and then to the LSU Pete Maravich Assembly Center's field hospital to care for patients being flown in from the New Orleans area.

We saw elderly patients who had been off their medicine for days, diabetics without insulin going into shock, uncontrolled hypertension, patients with psychosis and other mental disorders, lots of diarrhea, dehydration and things you would expect. I slept on a patient cot there every night until I came home.

Gerhart said he felt the experience overall was successful and rewarding, although frustrating at times. You don't expect catastrophes to be well organized. A lot of people, both private citizens and government officials, were working very hard.

Perlmutter did not return home empty-handed. He brought a family of four evacuees back with him and is still working with Baton Rouge volunteer Hollis Barry to facilitate the relocation of additional hurricane victims to Pennsylvania.

He also returned with a sense of outrage. I have been trying to call Sen. Arlen Specter (of Pennsylvania) to let him know of our experience.

I have been going to Ecuador and Mexico (on medical missions) for 14 years. I was at ground zero. I've seen hundreds of people die. This was different because we knew the hurricane was coming. FEMA showed up late and then rejected help for the sake of organization. They put form before function, and people died.

Both FEMA and the Coast Guard operate under the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, which has been widely criticized for its disjointed, slow response to the devastation caused by Katrina. Federal officials are urging medical personnel who want to volunteer to help with disaster relief to contact the Medical Reserve Corps or the American Red Cross for registration, training and organization.


Maybe FEMA? Oye!

Sorry but there is so much more that FEMA does
that you aren't even reporting. You make it sound like FEMA did nothing or they really slacked off. What about the national guard and disaster medical teams that are staged in close states before the storms. What about all the supplies that are staged. What about the local EOC that are always in place. What about the incredible warning systems we have. We have AF pilots who fly into the storm even!!! What about the funding that is already in place and the loans FEMA gives to people and biz to rebuild their life. The people criticizing FEMA have no experience with disasters, it's so obvious from the way they criticize the timing of the disaster declaration and when the politicans showed up in the area.

As far as being cold, they
tell people to always keep 72 hour kits, because that is the minimum time it takes for any help to arrive. It's not just a number someone found on a fortune cookie. If you know a storm is coming, common sense tells you to prepare for as long as you can. If healthy able bodied people refuse to prepare there isn't anything the government can do to help them. Again it was a hurricane during hurricane season and there was warning.

Compare Katrina to Ivan or Andrew. For some reason New Orleans was given more press & political attention than other places like FL, MS and AL.
Brown resigns from FEMA.

Probably Medal of Freedom from Bush.


Excuse us Mr. Bush, can FEMA have your attention?

Katrina & Recovery

Woes at Embattled FEMA Spur Employee Exits


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The FEMA command center in Washington, D.C., Aug. 30, 2005, shortly after Katrina hit the Gulf Coast. AFP/Getty Images


 

 


 


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Mark Wolfe

Bill Carwile, in an October 2005 photo taken before he retired from FEMA. Days after Katrina struck the Gulf Coast, the head of hurricane response in Mississippi e-mailed FEMA headquarters: System appears broken. FEMA


 

 

All Things Considered, January 13, 2006 · FEMA is having trouble holding on to its best people. Several FEMA staffers have told NPR that people are leaving because the agency is in trouble and no one appears to be addressing the problems. These departures are raising concerns about FEMA's ability to respond to the next disaster.


Leo Bosner, a union chief and manager of the emergency operations desk at FEMA, says morale was bad Katrina, but it's only gotten worse. He notes there have been several retirement parties at the agency in recent weeks.


They're getting out not because they're tired and want to work in the garden but because they're just sickened by the agency's failure -- very public failure -- and just sickened to see nobody doing anything to lift a finger to fix the problems, Bosner says of the departing employees.


According to half a dozen other current or former FEMA managers who did not want their name used for fear of retribution, more than 50 people have left FEMA in the past four months. One official inside FEMA who has seen the agency's attrition data says 56 people have left in the past five weeks alone.


But FEMA says only 20 people have left. FEMA spokesman Nicole Andrews says the information Bosner and other employees shared with NPR is either incomplete or imprecise. She says there's an influx of applications to work for the agency, adding, To suggest that there is any sort of a trend related to Katrina and attrition would be absolutely false.


One recent retiree is Bill Carwile, a 10-year veteran of FEMA and former Army colonel who left in November. Carwile led FEMA's hurricane response in Mississippi.


Katrina struck New Orleans and the Gulf Coast on Aug. 29. Three days into Katrina recovery operations in Hancock County, Miss., Carwile couldn't get any food, water or even body bags. System appears broken, he wrote in an e-mail to FEMA headquarters. Carwile says it was the worst moment of his FEMA career.


The exhaustion frustration he felt in Mississippi wasn't the only thing pushing him to retire. Carwile says he was upset watching FEMA's training programs get cut year after year, leaving his teams unprepared.


Meanwhile, volunteers are *begging* FEMA not to shut down camps in Louisiana. sm

Katrina Volunteers Beg FEMA Not to Shut Down Camps
By Mark Martin
CBN News Reporter


CBN.com – ST. BERNARD PARISH, New Orleans - Carolyn Pitre is grateful to find her Bible among her belongings, piled up in the street in front of her home in St. Bernard Parish.

Carolyn says, “I'm drawn to try and find something of value because we have nothing left... (cries)… Because we have nothing left... Everything was gone. Everything.”

All along Carolyn's street, and in the entire area, it is the same: Destruction everywhere you look. Piles and piles of trash and debris. Gutted homes.

Lt. Colonel David Dysart is the director of recovery for St. Bernard Parish, which is near New Orleans. Dysart stated, “I have no residents living here right now, and I have had absolutely no businesses which have been able to return.”

The Marine reservist also had a part in the rebuilding of Fallujah, Iraq. He says there are several similarities. Both were completely evacuated, and both had their infrastructures completely wiped out.

The Lt. Colonel says it is going to take another six months to finish gutting thousands of homes to remove health and safety hazards. And that's where volunteers come in.

Dysart says it takes 10 to 12 volunteers a day to a day-and-a-half to gut just one house.

Asked if he needed volunteers right now, Dysart replied, “Absolutely. It's critical that we keep this up. We have approximately 800 homes to date that we've managed to move these items, out of the approximately 5,000 that applied.”

Volunteers need a place to stay. Right now, they live in base camps set up by fema. The problem is, local relief coordinators say, fema wants to close them soon -- in just a few weeks.

FEMA told Dysart that it wants to close these base camps because, Dysart said, “It is not FEMA's responsibility to provide support to volunteer agencies.”

Operation Blessing Disaster Relief Manager Jody Herrington says that not being able to provide a home means turning away a volunteer.

“Each volunteer that we turn away is another home that's not gutted, another resident that's not helped,” Jody declared. “It's another neighborhood that's not coming back. It's another city that's not restored. The reality is the volunteer help is crucial and critical to the success of recovery out in these parishes.”

Brenda Puckett is a missionary to nearby Plaquemines Parish. “There's so much to do,” Brenda stressed. “There's so much devastation. The need for volunteers is tremendous.”

She, too, says the camps need to stay.

Around 500 people live in one camp alone. A FEMA representative says it one houses contractors, people who are here to clean up and rebuild. I asked him where they would stay if these tents were not here. He said in their vehicles, wherever they could find.

Brenda said, “It just breaks my heart. We need the contractors here, we need the volunteers here in order to build our Parish back.”

Pastor Randy Millet helps run a disaster relief center in St. Bernard Parish. He says the volunteers are vital in making sure that residents get the food and clothing they need to survive.

“Please don't close the base camps,” Randy urged. “Allow us to house our volunteers. They're not looking for a Holiday Inn. They're looking for a cot with a pillow and a meal.”

In addition, Randy says that without warning, fema stopped providing ice and filling up their generators with fuel.

“What we’ve got to do in order to get diesel fuel right now -- we have to go across the street to fill up our buckets,” Randy explained, “and bring them back to fill up our generators... three or four... and that takes four or five trips.

Obstacles, these workers say, that are making it tough to serve others.

“The sheer economic recovery of this parish is dependent upon the volunteer effort,” Dysart commented.

Herrington said, “Our plea would be to please consider extending the closing of the base camps so that would give us time for transition and preparation to come up with some other accommodations.”

Carolyn Pitre does not want to see volunteers turned away. She's grateful for those who helped remove her belongings from her home.

“We need all the help we can get. It's not over... not by a long shot,” Carolyn stated.

CBN News tried to contact a fema representative to ask about the base camp closings and other issues facing volunteers, but no representative was available.


I think they should have fired anyone
that was involved in that crap. She had no right to do that and it would be nice if Joe the Plumber could sue. (I've been out of the loop on that matter for a while so don't judge me please).
why not have him fired, I mean how dare he?
for that matter, fire anyone and everyone who ever says or does anything you do not agree with. There you go, problem solved. Maybe you could all go to Alaska to live and only allow people there who agree with you and you could have your own world while you are at it and never be bothered with the poor or the sick, you know - I mean, what nerve these people have right?
And the first shot is fired.......
by those, in the name of our Lord, Jesus Christ, spew things like "you are a nasty old hag arne't you?"  How Christian.
The CANADIANS are fired up!

I've never fired it, but
I have used it to get an attacker to back off. I used to live in a bigger city and on my way home from work one afternoon, some guy jumps out at me with a knife and tells me to give him my wallet. Thank God for conceal and carry permits, 'cause I had mine right in my purse. It wasn't loaded, but he didn't know that. Needless to say he took off in quite a hurry - after all, he'd brought a knife to a gun fight. I live in a pretty podunk town now and love it, but the only need for guns around here are for hunting - which I don't. But I definitely feel safer knowing I have a gun and know how to use it just in case.
I refuse to conform and I just don't fit in," .......so he was fired!!

 'TOO PATRIOTIC'??  That's reason for dismissal from a job?  What the h@ll is this country coming to?   


 


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Default.aspx?id=576612


 


 


The classroom is not an indoctrination arena. He should have been fired. nm
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Air America just fired Mike Malloy...sm

MIKE MALLOY FIRED BY AIR AMERICA RADIO

There will be no Mike Malloy program today - or any day - on Air America Radio as we have been terminated. We are as shocked as you are. We are told its a financial decision.

More details to follow as we hear them ourselves.


They said it was financial - This is total BS.  More free speech suppression.


I agree- that officer should have been arrested instead of fired.
But it's nice to see Dems sticking up for child abusers and drunkards. I guess birds of a feather and all that.
Remember when he fired all those air traffic controllers?
kinda like taxing the AIG bonuses.......
Clarification...the investigator is personal friend of the man who was fired. nm
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Your previous posts
Arent you the one who posted you were in the military and when asked about it, the truth came out that family members had been in the military, not you?  So, are you spinning the untruths again?  Or are you someone else using the same initials?
It was probably the previous owner.
Geez.
not previous poster but
I actually know several people of mixed race (black/white), who are openly racist against whites.  Not saying that Obama is or isn't, but it can happen.
Previous post
The democrats voted over 90% with their own party just as McCain did with his (Bush). Go to factcheck.org.

Imbicilic? That's juvenile. Just because you don't agree and are a hot-headed Obama follower doesn't mean you have the right to call my posts imbicilic. I have never once degraded my own character by calling an Obama supporter an imbicile. Grow up.
I'm not the previous poster but....(sm)
I personally know about a dozen people, friends and relatives, who fit her post.

I know more about Obama than any of them, but they don't give a darn who the real man is behind the facade that he chooses to show the world.



Not to mention the documentary made during the election made that shows Obama voters, who knew/know next to nothing about the man they had just voted for...and didn't care, even when things were pointed out to them.


Some people are so uninformed who voted for Obama. My mother, my sister-in-law included, just to name a few. They only voted the democrat party like they always did...could care less who the real Obama is.....
Have they done that with previous pres?
If they have done this with previous presidents, I really couldn't care less.  Anyone know the answer to this?
Lilly, check this out per previous
Freedom of the press?


Scott McClellan Says Helen Thomas Opposes 'War on Terrorism'

By E&P Staff

Published: October 13, 2005 3:50 PM ET

NEW YORKQuestions today from longtime White House reporter Helen Thomas caused White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan to declare that she opposes the war on terrorism. His response caused one of Thomas's colleagues, Terry Moran, to leap to her defense.

Here is the exchange from the official transcript:

THOMAS What does the President mean by total victory -- that we will never leave Iraq until we have total victory? What does that mean?

McCLELLAN: Free and democratic Iraq in the heart of the Middle East, because a free and democratic Iraq in the heart of the Middle East will be a major blow to the ambitions --

THOMAS If they ask us to leave, then we'll leave?

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm trying to respond. A free and democratic Iraq in the heart of the broader Middle East will be a major blow to the ambitions of al Qaeda and their terrorist associates. They want to establish or impose their rule over the broader Middle East -- we saw that in the Zawahiri letter that was released earlier this week by the intelligence community.

THOMAS They also know we invaded Iraq.

McCLELLAN: Well, Helen, the President recognizes that we are engaged in a global war on terrorism. And when you're engaged in a war, it's not always pleasant, and it's certainly a last resort. But when you engage in a war, you take the fight to the enemy, you go on the offense. And that's exactly what we are doing. We are fighting them there so that we don't have to fight them here. September 11th taught us --

THOMAS It has nothing to do with -- Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

McCLELLAN: Well, you have a very different view of the war on terrorism, and I'm sure you're opposed to the broader war on terrorism. The President recognizes this requires a comprehensive strategy, and that this is a broad war, that it is not a law enforcement matter.

Terry.

TERRY MORAN On what basis do you say Helen is opposed to the broader war on terrorism?

McCLELLAN: Well, she certainly expressed her concerns about Afghanistan and Iraq and going into those two countries. I think I can go back and pull up her comments over the course of the past couple of years.

MORAN And speak for her, which is odd.

McCLELLAN: No, I said she may be, because certainly if you look at her comments over the course of the past couple of years, she's expressed her concerns --

THOMAS I'm opposed to preemptive war, unprovoked preemptive war.

MR. McCLELLAN: -- she's expressed her concerns.
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Maybe no one answered the two previous posts...sm
becuase they're tired of getting jumped on by your side, you know, the anti-fanatic fanatics...lol....but true.

I've refrained from commenting on this issue, even though I feel as if Obama is hiding something. Wonder what it could be?






If you had read my previous posts
you would know I have a problem with Wright.  The others are just propaganda and I don't pay much attention to propaganda. 
And if you read the previous decision on this
the judge raled on and on for pages about Berg and frivolous law suits.
And if you read the previous messages
Nice try!
click on the link previous post

It's alive, it's alive..Why, Dr. Frankenstein, it's alive!


If I understant your previous writing correctly,
apparently you have been missing in action over the last 8 years.  There have been absolutely NO checks or balances, so how would that be any different than what we already have.  Obama ushering in a New World Order?  You have completely misunderstood this whole conversation.  These things have started almost 20 years ago.  It is not NEW, it is now being expounded upon, but NOT NEW!!  Bush played into this all of his 8 years in office...maybe you should look again and read some more.  I am just the messenger.
previous speech talks how he will check "
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Witch hunt on previous administration?
Ah, for the waterboarding? I would suggest you acquaint yourself with the fact that America put Japanese war prisoners to death, yes executed them, for the same thing as your previous administration now stands accused of, torture. Strange how it was horrible when it was done to Americans but now it is ok? You, dearie, need to be off the panic button. This is like mass hysteria with people running scared, of what? Oh, I saw yesterday where Obama has now been called the superpresident, nice sound, huh?
A previous poster asked who PNAC was. I answered. sm
They influence US and world policy, so believe they are definitely a threat. I first heard about the Illuminati in a Bible study class. Thought everyone knew about them. You all must think everything said is a conspiracy theory. No, Bush isn't one, but I am sure he takes orders from them, and so does other world leaders. In the book, The Creature from Jekyll Island, the creature is a monster known as The Federal Reserve System conjured up at a secret meeting by a group of Illuminati snakes on a remote island off the east coast of America in 1913.

I do believe Islam is a threat, but I also think they are being provoked and persecuted. If you do not know history on the above, then you wouldn't understand why I think this.


please note...the title line of the previous post were....
sim's words, not mine. Refer to her/his post.
So what, you're 80, 90 years old and know this? Previous poster talking about...sm
Joseph Kennedy back in the 1940s and 1950s, some 60-70 years ago, and what he did and didn't do? It's all in the history books.

Maybe Teddy is like that today and pays for nothing (doubt that, but hey, you say live there, whatever), really don't care for him much at all, what with Chappaquiddick (sp?) and all, and how daddy Kennedy got young Teddy off on murder charges on that poor girl, Mary Jane Kopechne. Daddy Kennedy called in favors for that one, too, doncha know.

It's well known how much daddy Kennedy did for JFK way back then, to get him elected. It's called history.




my 401K from a previous employer hasn't lost much
but it's in low risk investments, a lot of bonds, and so when things get better, it probably won't rise as quickly as other 401k's. I'm a chicken.
No, you have paid no attention to the previous posters, maxie...sm
If Obama ushers it in, he will be to blame. Period.

And not it looks like no one in Congress in the minority (i.e., republicans) will be able to present any sort of check and balance to anything that goes on in the next four years.


God help us all.
you must be referring to the previous admin. - GW didn't like to read much......
he did miss that memo about an impending attack on our country using our own private airlines..........Boy wonder? Must be referring to his super hero underwear.
To a great extent, it is Frank's fault, previous poster correct.
Barney Frank and the rest of the democrats in charge of Congress now, will be laughing at you, too....at all of us.
Head. nm

You are in way over your head.
extremely complex. It changes voice and tense constantly, even in the middle of a single passage. It is also replete with metaphor. You, my dear, would not know a metaphor if it walked up with a sign across its chest and kicked you in the face.

If you go looking for hate, you will find it. But it is a sad commentary on this election and on your flavor of Christianity when you try to turn a Holy Book into a hate machine for political gain.

I have spent decades in the midst of Moslems and their culture. I can say categorically, you are full of all sorts of baloney and do not know what you are talking about. You are a pitiable anachronistic narrow-minded bigot. By the way, the last time I checked, Christians are way not above killing the infidel (and I am NOT speaking metaphorically here). Can you say Crusades? Get off your high horse and get with the program. Your hate speech will doom you candidate to defeat.
Right on, you hit that one on the head!!

She is such a media "prostitute".  Why no one can see through her transparent self-promotion antics is beyond me, but if the pubs are looking to her for leadership, boy are they in major trouble!  



Ah, come on Mrs. M..........use your head
use it as a noun.........you know, as in the unteachable ignorant.
Very little is over my head.
What's your point?
Does this all come out of your head or are you
just copying and pasting?
Wow - right over your head.
Some people will believe anything. That's my point.

It was a direct result of your remark, "...it is provocative and thought provoking and very interesting in all the "coincidences" that seem to be wrapped around these events and bears more than just a glancing interest by anyone who is concerned about the state of our country today."

What a dupe. (Is that word in your dictionary?) Do you believe in Bigfoot, and UFOs, and BlackOps Helicopters, and people stealing kidneys in the middle of the night too? 'Cause, all those rubes use the phrase "the truth is out there" too. Gee, ya think that's why The X-Files used that as its cathphrase?

And, nice try to psychoanalyze me but I'm afraid your 'nanny-nanny-boo-boo' comments make you look like a total tard.

Let me guess - you were the fat, ugly girl who sat alone in the sandbox at recess. Maybe that's why you're so stuck on the bully/bullied thing. Oh, wait, I think I know. You were neither a bully NOR bullied. You were just ignored. And now you have emotional scars.

Awe - almost makes me feel sorry for you.

FOYUSOS.
You said it...Shaking my head...nm
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Not over the top & hit the nail on the head sm
with this paragraph.

Miss Coulter doesn't criticize Mrs. Beamer, of course, because Miss Coulter doesn't genuinely object to 9/11 widows being messengers; she selectively objects to their messages. If the women in New Jersey she so charmingly calls witches had expressed political opinions in lock-step conformance to the television-friendly slogans of Sean Hannity, Miss Coulter would have been applauding them. Instead, Miss Coulter is trying to silence them. Why? Because extreme right wing politics has always been about silencing inconvenient dissent. I'm a godly Republican -- trust me on this.



You hit the nail on the head!

I think some (definitely not all or a majority) of Americans just don't want to face the fact that the enemy we face is not from within.  Again, I'm not saying our government is perfect or without elements of corruption, but what I am saying is that we are comfortable in our *Lexus boxes* and mocha latte lifestyles.  Many people, especially the generation now in their early to mid twenties, have absolutely no idea about the extreme sacrifice of our ancestors made to make this country what it is.  I believe our country is at a tipping point.  I think people prefer oblivion and denial and just hoping that we can all just get along.  We really delude ourselves about all the violence and crime going on in our cities as being from people who are victims of this and that.  They think more understanding will rehabilitate people who yes, may have a had a hard life, but that should not excuse them of criminal behavior.


People just don't want to believe evil is a real thing.  It's not just the result of misunderstanding or a challenging childhood it's an actual force in the universe.  I'm trying not to get religious here, but if you don't have a good grasp on the actual existence of good and evil and the origin of them there's no way you're going to ever believe that what is happening in the world is bigger than all of us.


But your head is in the sand. SM
I don't equate the Crusades with bashing Catholics.  What an idea!  Wow...news to me.  So all those threats you mention, how many of them flew planes into our buildings and abducted and beheaded our people?  Really, your blase attitude is frightening.  I just don't get it.