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Here is my humble opinion on the whole thing....

Posted By: MT and worn out on 2009-05-22
In Reply to: How about apologizing for starting...(sm) - Just the big bad

The United States needs to call all it's troops back from where ever they are stationed (Germany comes to mind for starters). Then call in any outstanding debts we are owed (which may not be much any more), and close our borders...north, south, east, and west. Then, the next time a major disaster occurs somewhere, we say to the injured parties....get China over there to help, call Russia, let Mexico send all their money and illegals over to help. We are not going to be the world's savior any more. You can sink or swim on your own.

You cannot fight an enemy that has no uniform. You cannot negotiate with a person who wants to cut your head off, who believes it is his Allah-given right to cut your head off.

For Obama to apologize for the arrogance of the United States is the epitome of arrogance on his own part. But then you could expect no less from someone who has no knowledge of politics except at the state level.

If it hadn't been for the United States, France would be speaking German for starters.


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So in your humble opinion, Baker was refraining
in his article and acting like an adult when using such phrases as:
1. Surly members of the liberal world
2. Anytime the crap-o-meter goes off
3. Assertions that the "liberal bench" delivered 8 years of constant criticism, whining and churlishness and need to tone down their "unimaginative, really foul language." Dismissive and condescending.
4. Liberals keep Palin as a "sacrificial scapegoat." Liberals harbor legitimate concerns over the frightening aspect that someone so intellectually challenged came within a hair's breadth of the highest office in the land.
5. Implications that Obama's appointees are selected based only on the criteria that they are acceptable to CIA bashing liberals? Not at all true. His appointees are all over the map in terms of political orientations.
6. Characterizing liberals' criticisms of John Brennan as "what a load of crap"...twice.
7. Misrepresenting liberals views of torture as a sterotypical monolithic "it's either chatting or it's torture". Pretty much a bald-face lie.
8. Implying that liberals world view is one of a leafy campus surrounded by lofty thoughts of world peace, unicorns and fuzzy warm puppies. The word diplomacy is obviously not in Baker's vocab, despite the fact that it has been an integral part of our country's history for decades of decades.

Yeah, right. Silly me for taking issue and being "unnecessarily nasty."

Again, expressed My Humble Opinion, I have questions......sm
Where did I try to shut anyone up???? I have tried to post on both sides of the fence, my personal opinions, when I agree with the right I post that way, when I believe in the left or the middle, I post that way. I have no uneasy feelings at all, sorry to disapppoint you, I believe in what I said, I sometimes think that arguments get so personal and heated on this board because it gets too personal, personal attacks, and many times the insults have religious labels attached to them. THAT is what makes me uneasy because I personally do not believe that religion should be used in that way....the Zealots tried to make Jesus into a political figure and crown him king, but He steadfastly maintained that His kingdom was not of this world, but the next, that He came in Fulfillment of prophecy, not to tear down establishment. I am only saying, if religion is at the heart of an argument,then it perhaps goes beyond being political and becomes about a spiritual philosophy, and there is a board here dedicated to that. I agreed with what BB was saying in this instance, added my opinion, and that IS my right, also, since you are so concerned with rights. I cannot be "force-fed" because my soul is filled with deeply embedded, eternally strong beliefs, so I get no uneasy fealling whatsoever. Okay, back to work.
I read the whole thing, and I appreciate your opinion, and I know you believe it...
now try to understand my belief. I feel that my God is a powerful and just God. I also believe that He gave His children free will, and I believe that all of us will answer to Him one day for all our choices, whatever they may be. Please understand...I do believe that those aborted babies are with God now. No doubt about it. Straight shot to his side, as they are the most innocent among us. But you cannot make me believe that a just and loving God would agree with this heinous, horrible procedure, to the tune of 1.2 million every year! I'm sorry...I just don't believe that.

And I'm sorry...I don't think murder is between God and the person. An unborn child has a soul...just like a child who has been born. What about someone who murders a child outside the womb? Is that between the murderer and the creator? What about when a pedophile hurts and then murders a child? That is between the pedophile and his creator? I am not saying that to be mean or confrontational. I am trying to understand.

My God, I believe, loves all children, and yes, children who die violently go right to His side, yes, I believe that. What I do not believe is that it was His will that they die violently. You have your belief, and I have mine. Can't be just allow each other to have our beliefs? Can't I be allowed to follow MY belief of MY God, which tells me that someone needs to speak for these children?

As you said...that is just my opinion, my belief.
I will reserve any opinion on the Ayers thing...
until the documents are made public that Columbia University just released regarding Ayers and Obama. Obama may have been 8 when Ayers was active, but just looking at the people Barack was connected with during that time I don't entertain any doubts that he knew exactly who Ayers was and what he had done. If it was in the past, that's one thing. But the man still says he is not a bit sorry that he did what he did. And if he has Obama's ear in any way...that would be a problem for me. But, that being said, it would just be one more thing, because I am not voting for him anyway.

With all due respect, the last few years have been under a democratically-controlled congress, and it has been in the last few years that things got really bad. Not saying it is all their fault, but they certainly haven't done anything to try to fix it. If they are going to be able to suddenly miraculously fix it if a Democrat is elected...all that tells me is that they are dragging their feet at our expense. The American public knows that...that is why Congress' numbers are lower than Bush's.

As a matter of fact, things are going pretty well for my family and my neighbors. The biggest thing, of course, is gas, but I remember when Clinton was in office we had a really LONG run of household fuel (for oil furnaces) was higher than it is now. I am not saying it was Clinton's fault because I don't think turns in the economy are any one man's fault. It is up to Congress to fix that sort of thing, not sit on their hands during a political season. I would be saying the same thing if it was a Dem administration. Has nothing to do with the party, it has to do with a lazy inactive Congress...which is, of course, made up of folks from both parties.

As to endless war...this country has had soldiers in other countries during most administrations since Viet Nam...Clinton had them in Kosovo and Somalia. Might have been "peacekeeping missions" but Americans still died there. And by the way, McCain did not say that the war in Iraq could go on for 100 years. What he said was that there might be an American presence there, like bases. We still have bases where we fought many wars. We had bases in Germany for many years. That has often been misquoted. That being said, he is not my favorite either; however, he fits the bill, for me, better than Obama.

In deference to my erstwhile fellow posters, I will not go into the abortion issue. :-)

The only thing I know about social security and wall street is it was proposed that if someone wanted to, they should be allowed to have control of their social security money and invest it if that was their choice. I have never heard anyone say it was mandatory. Personally, I would like to have control of mine to put into CD's where Congress couldn't raid it to pay for other things. If we had privatized it before, it would still be there because Congress couldn't have gotten their grubby paws on it to "borrow" it. Which, by the way, was done during a Democrat administration.

As to the celebrity and all that, I don't pay attention to attack ads on either side. I have seen some from Obama's side that are pretty harsh and about as silly. I wish they would both stop that stuff and stick to the issues...but that is just me.
I see you are also very humble-NOT
Your arrogance and superior attitude are not one bit interesting or exciting.
Humble? Obama? Puleezzzeeee.
lol.
well....number one bashes humble beginnings...
what may I ask is wrong with serving your local community?

I don't have a problem with cleaning up the party if it needs cleaning.

She is pro life - GREAT. She is for marriage defined as a man and woman - GREAT.

Murkowski was crooked as a dog's hind leg and she got rid of good ol' boy politics in Alaska - GREAT.

as to lack of experience...better be careful about that one Your #1 chair has less experience than she has. That doesn't hold water.

this poster acts like it is a bad thing to bring up your own party on ethics...I saw that is what politicians SHOULD be doing IMHO. Put service to the people who elected you above your party. GOOD FOR HER!!!
Ridiculous comment. Bush was humble. Cheney
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Your opinion of torture is your opinion. Tough
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History is history and opinion is opinion. You need to learn the difference.
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But valuing over the price of a dollar is a right thing wing thing, so you are on the wrong board. n
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WHOSE OPINION?

That's your opinion
I don't think the liberal justices have been able to put their own views aside to make constitutionally sound decisions in the last few years, but again, that's my opinion as much as you are basing your judgements on your opinion. I think Bush is a brillant man, and I won't castigate you for thinking he's not, but it is your opinion and you have a right to it. Do I think Harriet Miers is best choice? No, but given her credentials I don't think she's a disaster either. The whole Roe vs. Wade issue has been controversial from it's inception, and yes I do think abortion is wrong, because it's killing innocent human life. I think it should be revisited. Roe has had a change of heart over the years about it, and to me that speaks volumes. However, I doubt you will agree and I don't expect you to.

Okay, if a justice should be excluded because of their abortion views then all the justices would have to be excluded, because they all have taken sides one way or the other.
I second your opinion except

I do believe, based on all information available, that Plame was truly outed.  There is no "opinion" involved here.  It is either true or false, and in this case, it is true she was outed. Throw as much distraction and verbiage at it as you want, but the fact remains.


 


What is your opinion...???
You mention abortions in this country that occur. How do you feel about Iraqi women having abortions? Does it bother you as much as abortions in the US?  Would you go to Iraq at the present time and implore upon the women there not to have an abortion? "Life, what a terrible thing to waste."
Your opinion, and
Get a grip.
that's your opinion
I think that's a "desperate" attempt by dems because you must be scared of his pick!

I am a woman and a proud woman but i don't vote for one just because of that fact! (take Hillary for example!!)


you can have your opinion - and so can I
You just don't like to hear the truth. Hurts doesn't it!

I think I said in my post I commend you both for being able to stay at home and raise your kids. Good for you.

Your the one cutting down Sarah Palin for no good reason and just spewing lies. So I am giving my opinion.

Goes both ways.

As Austin Powers would say - Yeah, baby!
It is just my opinion ...
once again, just because I don't like his personna does not mean that I am not voting for him.

I truly have not decided.
Just my opinion...sm

This is all pretty much a matter of opinion, why does one have to be stupid to vote for who they FEEL is the best candidate.  None of them truly are qualified.  We can gave education and we can gain experience, but when given the task at hand, how many actually succeed.  I feel that the Bush administration has been the worst ever since I have become involved in politics over the years, but that is my personal opinion.  Not only was he given one term and failed, but a second term and things got worse.


I am not pushing any buttons or trying to step on anyones toes.  To me it does not matter what race, religion, or gender, have always been a democrat and nothing and no one can ever make me vote republican, but the replican administration that had the task of leading our country for the last 8 years has definitely turned some die hard republicans to say they will vote republican.


This is my thing, I'm poor in a sense that I do not have millions of dollars in the bank, the rising gas prices and food prices affect me tremendously, and I live below my means.  The economy has changed, it is not good.  I want to survive.  I want to know that my job is safe, if I need financial assistance to save my home or feed my kids that it is available.  There are more issues that hit home for me, just a few named above.  I do not care that the gentleman who started AIG lost 3 billion dollars, so what how many millions do he have left.  If I lose $100 that's a sore spot for me.  They are saving financial insitutions with buyouts, spending billions on a war, and nothing to help the working Americans who lost their job and lost their homes and they were working hard just to survive.


I'm torn in a sense, but I do feel sorry for our country.  How much more will we working Americans have to suffer. 


Just my thought, part of the money that is been sent to fund this war, can we have it here in America to give to our people who are suffering from natural disasters (hurricanes, raging fires, jobs moved overseas, and all the other major crises surrounding us).  What are we really striving for?


This is my opinion.....

From reading her thesis....she just made it sound like ivy league colleges are directed towards the "Whites" and wondered if it was really beneficial for "Blacks" to attend these colleges in a predominant white setting.  Stating that "Blacks" who attended Princeton found themselves grouped together but at the end of their education came to finding their way in the "White" world and forsaking the "Black Community."  How some "Blacks" felt guilt because they felt they should help the low-income black community and hadn't and others felt no guilt and strived for a position in the white world like Princeton was to blame for these "Blacks" building a life for themself and their family instead of putting everything back into the black community.


It sounds to me like Michelle Obama is a bitter and arrogant black woman and her involvement and membership at Rev. Wright's church for 20 years is just more proof of that.  As many times as Rev. Wright showed up in interviews and spatted hate and the empowerment of blacks against their white oppressors....you cannot tell me honestly that Barrack and Michelle NEVER heard any message like that when it seems like that is all that comes out of Rev. Wright's mouth. 


That is your opinion...
Obama doesn't know how many states are in the country he is actually running for President of. Joe Biden can't keep his foot out of his mouth.

Real Clear Politics has McCain ahead in electoral votes, and that is where the election is decided, not the popular vote. They are virtually neck and neck or within margin of error in Pennsylvania and Michigan...which nearly always are double digits for the Democrat at this time in elections. Just a little perspective on polls. That being said, polls are what they are. We will not know until election night.

deRothschild's remark doesn't mean as much to me as the "clinging bitterly to their guns and religion" comment of Obama's about Pennsylvanians...that is why he lost his lead in Pennsylvania and why it may very likely go Republican for the first time in how many years.....?

And that comment tells me all I need to know about the character of Barack Obama and how he feels about the common person out here in the flyover states.
My opinion

I voted for the first time in 1960.  The issue then was "Catholic."  People were "scared" of a Catholic president.........much like Obama being "Muslim."  Not much new since then except for the extensive media and internet.  Of course the "Catholic" won.  Some still say that election was bought by the Senior Kennedy.  I  happen to believe that now and I voted for him.  At that time I was a young voter, JFK was young, good-looking and talked a good talk.


You say the media picked their "darling."  I've watched TV consistently since the beginning of all this mess, starting with the primaries and I have seen no bias on CNN where I usually get my news and watch debates, etc. I did notice that Tom Tancredo (whom I supported) and Ron Paul were NOT given equal time in the debates.   Anything I hear that does not come directly from the horse's mouth, I research and make up my own mind, thus I consider myself about as well-informed as anyone can be who doesn't personally know any of the candidates.  I continue to be dismayed by posters on this board such as the above poster who says "Obama caught in the act."  If this is the kind of ill-informed voters who actually vote and elect our leader, God save us all.


The ACORN thing.  If I understand it correctly, the actual voter registration office that "discovered" the fradulent registrations is run by Republicans.  So there you have it again...Dem vs. Pubs.  They say they "don't have time to sort out the legitimate registrations"...Isn't that their job?  Do you REALLY think ACORN is the only one guilty of voter fraud?  I most certainly do not.  Why do you think both parties steer far away from illegal immigration?  Not a word have I heard from either candidate about illegal immigration.  Why?  Both are in favor of giving the free-loading, criminal invaders of our country "a path to citizenship," because both parties want the Latino vote, legal or otherwise.


To answer your question....I think our next leader will be decided by rabid voters who support the ticket, whichever group has the most rabid voters that actually turn out, and it looks to me like it may be the Republican ticket so it will not surprise me if John McCain is the next president.  I personally know many people who say they are not going to vote because they, like myself, cannot support either candidate.  I think there will probably be a huge voter turn-out and much of the turn-out will be newly registered voters and those who have bought into the Obama is a scary fellow campaign.  Fear is the scary thing, it brings out the fight or flight instinct just as it is designed to do in this election.  Seems many people can't see the forrest for the trees. 


VOTING WITH A WRITE-IN VOTE FOR LOU DOBBS!!!!


So, did you have an opinion on
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Well if it is just your opinion then you need to say that
If it is not a fact that she uses her religion to gain money and power then you are slandering her without saying "in my opinion".

So you can post something hateful about aggressive women starting trouble and then needing their male counterparts to back them up, but when someone questions you, they are being over aggressive?


Everybody has their own opinion.
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My opinion is..........sm
that it is hateful in its message that basically ridicules Christianity and I believe it is hateful in the manner in which it was displayed right next to a Nativity scene. If the sign had not ridiculed the Christian faith and had been displayed in another area away from the Nativity, then perhaps it may have remained intact. For example, why not just say something like "Happy Winter Soltics" with the name of the organization at the bottom if they were truly just promoting the winter soltice and giving people information on atheist service organizations? The Nativity scene displays no hate language. It is a statement of the love of our God that Christians celebrate at this time of the year. Like GP, I think the atheists protest way too much over something they don't believe in. I don't believe in the boogie monster, but I don't go around posting signs about it.
That may be, but it is just that..HIS opinion....
and he is pretty much spot on. I listen to him whenever I get a chance...which is not often working during the day. LOL.
Well.......that's YOUR opinion.
*I* am not impressed by anyone who can only badmouth someone else.  If McCain has something better to offer, where is it???????? 
Yes, that is my opinion
and we are all entitled to our own opinion. I don't trust someone who is so evasive about his past, and will not answer questions thoroughly
That is your opinion
I don't agree with it. If killing any life is murder, than don't we all need to be vegetarians?
oh....so if an opinion comes from something other than...sm
some left-wing controlled media who is privileged to ride in Obama's private jet it is automatically discounted? Rense may talk about UFO sitings, but he also covers a variety of other things as evidenced by his home page. A journalist is not required to reveal his/her sources.....so says the LA Times. LOL
in your opinion...
What is the normal outcome of a pregnancy? Generally speaking, a child. Those two merged cells, if left alone, even by your way of thinking, will become a child unless someone screws with them. Perhaps, instead of teaching your daughter that if she becomes pregnant, that it is okay to stop this life from becoming the child that it should become, you should teach her to not become pregnant. There are other ways to avoid pregnancy than the pill.
just my opinion
I think American car makers will be forced to produce green cars by the government, and will not be allowed to fail, but forced to comply, and I will be the first in line to buy one.
my opinion on that -
My opinion is if they were taking naps and playing cards, then they were not needed. It looks to me like that kind of waste is what the problem is.

If they were only needed sometimes, then there should have be some kind of on call system or something so that they are not wasting their money paying them to take naps and play cards.
for m: opinion......s/m
You should broaden your mindset and not make generalized statements and then try unsuccessfully to retract them.
If I have sex and the consequence is a baby, then I and my partner created this child.
But, that is just your opinion, you have
can either give us a reliable source or just suck it up and accept the fact that he is still alive and well.
that is your opinion

based on your dark interpretation of facts.  I look at the same data - Obama's record, his choice of high-level officials and see a hopeful future.  What you believe and forecast is an OPINION based on a skewed filter, surely not accurately predictive.


 


that is your opinion

based on your dark interpretation of facts.  I look at the same data - Obama's record, his choice of high-level officials and see a hopeful future.  What you believe and forecast is an OPINION based on a skewed filter, surely not accurately predictive.


 


yup, it is and yours is your opinion
Facts are facts. You actually believe by picking all the same Clintonites that made Clinton's presidency a disaster, you actually believe it's now a hopeful future. Oh please, you certainly must have been asleep during the Clinton administration. Even some die hard democrats are coming out saying what in the world is he thinking. They follow that with "he's not thinking". What I see is that he owes everyone big time for everything he promised them and they've come collecting. I see the country is in for some very hard times. A lot of it is due to the idiocracy of the current administration, so Obama is going to be inheriting a lot of problems, but he has to be smarter than what he is and pick people who actually have knowlege of how to help rebuild our country. Not just give all of his little buddies jobs because they did favors for him and now he owes them. Facts are facts about Os connections/tie's, and past records. Those certainly will not lift this country out of the depression we are facing. All his promises he made while on the campaign trail? You can kiss them all goodbye, unless of course the people who lead him on their leash tell him that something will be done. And where is all that "bipartisan" he talked about during his campaign. His speeches of "I'm the only one who can bring republicans and democrats together" and "I will have people from both sides in my cabinet". Well at least he is keeping consistent with the lies he told. He's going to be so busy running around covering up everything he's done it's just going to be a disaster. All I say is I can't wait for 4 years to pass so that Arnold Schwartenzegger can run.
Just my opinion --
I think that President Bush has also encouraged congress to act on the stimulus measures so that when Obama is the acting President he can then already have the necessary funds in place to do something with.

At this very low point in our history, I don't think anyone should worry about who does what, but just that somebody does something to help Americans - if Bush wants to do something, then by all means, he should darn well do it. If the homeless man in the cold today can do something, then I don't care if he is an elected official or not, do something!!!

My opinion is I don't care right now who steps in and takes care of the mess, the people that created it or the people that are inheriting it, just as long as somebody takes care of it!
All I said was it was my own opinion
I was listening to McCain on C-span. What he said made sense to me about the American people know that the plan is filled with pork and items that are not going to stimulate the economy and we don't want it. The post was not about what has happened for the last 8 years. What I don't get is what is so hard to understand that the American people do not want to be paying for dog parks, birth control, and other useless things that do not create jobs. As for McCain being president - just was not in the books (and never was) and it had nothing to do with having a plan to stimulate the economy or not. P.S. - I really didn't miss the election results but they have been a bit misconstrued. Mr. Obama may have won 52% of the popular vote (which is only 7% more than McCain), but remember 37% of population of America that were eligible to vote didn't.

Besides, what does the current pork filled bill that Obama is presenting have to do with the election?
That's your opinion, not everyone's opinion.
Many people are very happy with what President Obama has done during his first few weeks in office, especially given the nightmare he inherited from Georgie Porgie.
Just my opinion
Just because some of us don't like him doesn't mean we don't support our country and hope that we can pull out of the mess we are in.  I don't like the guy, but pray that he will be safe, successful and stand up for the ones who need help.  What does liking the guy have to do with wanting what is best for the country?  You think we hope our country will go down in flames just so we can watch him fail?  Come on!
And I have the right to my opinion...... sm
but that wasn't the whole intent of my post. I merely added my opinion, as I am free to do, at the end. The point was what is the difference between what this woman did and an abortion? People seem to be clammering that what she did was murder, but if she had the money to go to an abortion clinic, the terminology would have been much different among those who, like yourself, are pro-choice.
Your opinion only. nm
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Not by a far cry is it her opinion only! ! !
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That was my opinion and...
you should keep your bible phrases for the faith board. I could say the same too.

P.S. - you really have no idea what party I belong to. Try none. Can't stand either and I don't believe either party is doing squat for the hard working American people and they certainly are not doing anything to help the economy. They are only doing what will get them re-elected. I have confidence in Obama. Never said any of this was his fault. All I said was his ratings are dropping (which they are). On the other hand... I have no confidence in congress/house. It is their fault.

Also, the democratic party are the ones who are pushing to give our hard earned money we work hard for to try and make ends meet...the democratic party is the one saying it's our "patriotic duty" (Biden's words) to give more to those who don't work.

So if I were you I'd keep your attitude for a true republican if I were you.
In my opinion....

this is political.  We have talked about gay marriage on here in the past.....why is this any different other than it has to do with a beauty pageant.


As for Bush and Cheney.....their interrogations saved American lives.  It seems to me that some of you care more for terrorists and how they are treated than the American lives that were saved.  Makes no sense to me at all. 


I don't agree with a lot of things Bush did.....particularly involving the economy and all the spending......but I stand by him in these interrogations and I think Obama is wrong in what he is doing.  I am seriously curious to see what Obama will do when we get attacked again.....because we will.  The terrorists will not stop until their mission is complete and that mission is to wipe us off the face of the Earth.  So when our defense sucks because Obama cut back the budget for that and we have no intelligence coming into our country and we start serving tea and cookies to terrorists in our custody.........what will ole Barry do then?  Will he get the same thing Bush did with the......there were warnings......you should have seen it coming, etc.  Or will you give him a free pass on that too.


The Taliban has already vowed to strike Washington.  It is only a matter of time before they hit us again.  This is another reason why I don't understand your stance on this.  You would rather protect terrorists in prison than protect American lives.  I truly hope and pray that no one you know and love is hurt or killed in the next strike.


my opinion
It is a very touchy subject, and like the poster above said it's not treating those who are gay/lesbians as equals. It is purposely trying to make them feel like 2nd class citizens. Similar to how the blacks felt before they were allowed to ride anywhere on the bus, and drink from any water fountain, and even go to the same schools that white kids go to.

Civil union is not acceptable. It does not give them the same rights as people who are married. I don't get the whole "we're defending the sanctity of marriage". I think that is just a bunch of crap. Does a gay/lesbian couple in Maine who get married affect the relationship of a heterosexual couple in New Mexico, or a different state have. No, it does not. If a gay/lesbian couple (who you don't know) are getting married and it really affects your personal relationship with your husband or wife then maybe your relationship with your husband/wife is not strong enough and you should not be married to begin with. My relationship with my husband is strong enough that it doesn't matter to me if my friend and her soon to be wife are getting married.

The best solution is this. John and Jane are human beings. They have human body parts and human feelings. They can see, hear, feel, and have brains and can think, and they are getting married. They live their lives in Maine and are a happy couple. Then we have Paul and Joseph. They too are both human beings. They have human body parts, feelings. They can see, hear, feel, and yes they even have brains and believe it or not can even think (imagine that). They even look like the other human beings too. They are capable of loving others just as John and Jane are. They live their lives in Kentucky and are a happy couple. What they do in their own personal lives do not affect how my husband and I feel about each other over here 5 states away. We can all say the marriage vows, and since none of us have ever been told by God or Jesus "personally" that it is wrong, since we are all human beings we should all be afforded the same human rights as any man/woman who want to get married. Everybody needs to mind their own business and stop telling others how they should live, and in return they will not be told how they should live. As for the interpretation the bible thumpers like to try to give...why don't we leave that up to the Creator when we get to that point. My feeling is I will be told that I was a kind-hearted person thinking of others and treating them as I want to be treated.

This whole "saving the sanctomony of marriage" (or whatever that excuse is) is just that. It's an excuse for people to treat others like they are inferior. It's just prejudice pure and simple. Nothing else.
In my opinion....

there is a difference here.  I didn't agree with the treatment of black people back then and I don't agree with treating homosexuals bad either.  Okay?  I stated straight up that there will be some on either side that will not be happy.  However, it irritated me that someone said that WE were stubborn.  I'm against SSM 100% but was willing to compromise to allow civil unions.  The majority of people are for civil unions but the majority of people are against SSM.  It seems to me that there are a lot of gay people who want it their way or forget it and then WE are stubborn and bigoted.  I'm just tired of it.  I don't treat gay people bad.  They are human beings and I treat them as such.  They don't deserve to be ridiculed or stoned, etc.  However, I don't have to agree with their lifestyle either.  I have a right to not want my kids being taught that being gay is okay in public schools when my own kids aren't allowed to pray in public schools.  If people want my religion to be part of my private life, fine.....just don't shove homosexuality in my face either.  I don't crame my religion down your throat.  I've told my children, or at least my older son because my younger one is really young, that although I don't agree with homosexuality.....under no circumstances is he to pick on, make fun of, or be mean to them.  But I don't want my kids learning that homosexuality is an okay lifestyle to choose just as much as some of you don't want your kids receiving a New Testament Bible at school.  So I will keep my religion out of schools and keep it at home and at church and you can stop forcing homosexuality on me and my kids and keep it in your private life.