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Hey, news flash - This isn't O's personal life

Posted By: IMHO on 2009-03-13
In Reply to: I could give 2 shts what Bush did in his personal life... - Mrs. Bridger

And sure you don't care about Bush...you'd be all over him in a second criticizing him up and down. This is not the O's personal life. I could care less what the O, Michelle, his daughters and relatives do in their own lives.

This is his public life, and the people (our servants) that he has invited to his parties, and the fact that he's spending our tax money to fund his parties!!!!!!!


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News Flash. sm

Using the term living in ignorance is not calling a name.  If you are that sensitive, political boards are not for you.


News flash
from an old crohn who has lived a long time.  If you are expecting things to be any better under EITHER regime, I think you're whistling in the wind.  Both candidates supported the bail-out that is going to put us all under and I expect we'll become the newest Third World Country.  When all is said and done, we have no one to blame but ourselves.  We've allowed our country to be overrun by illegal aliens thanks to many bleeding hearts.  BOTH of these candidates support "comprehensive immigration reform."  We only need the laws already on the books to be enforced.  BOTH of them want to reward the illegals already in this country knowing full well that it will further depress wages and benefits but it will sure please the big businesses that they BOTH cater to.  We pay lip service to wanting change but how the heck do we get it when we keep wanting "experience" or more of the same when we say we want "change."  Ain't gonna happen.  I refer to the definition of insanity:  "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."  To quote the person who constantly says it..........SHEESH!!
News flash...(sm)

I have had an abortion.  Was it for my own convenience?  No.  Did I have to have escorts into the building because people like you were outside throwing bottles and yelling murderer?  Yes.  By the way, they set a bomb the next day that killed quite a few people.  I guess that wasn't murder though because it was name of the lord.  Did I enjoy ripping my child apart limb by limb and decapitating him/her as you so eloquantly put it?  Not so much.  Was it really like that even?  No.  How did I know?  Well, let's just say the tape they used to hold the material over the *collection jar* didn't stick very well.  What you don't understand is that having an abortion is not an easy decision, but sometimes it is a necessary decision. 


So why did I have an abortion?  I had 2 choices.  I could have the child who was fathered by the man who was my husband at the time, who would have beaten the child just like he beat and raped me, or I could have had the child so it could end up in that list of children you just turned your nose up at.  You see, not everybody fits into that nice little box you like to call *girls who just want to get pregnant,* but if that makes it prettier for you, then go right ahead.


Religion:


I don't have a problem with faith, I have a problem with religion, especially when it impacts social issues that would take away rights of others who are not represented by that religion, or when it presents a double standard (you really don't have to look too hard to find those).  A person on this board wrote that politics don't belong in the pulput.  I agree.  But I also believe that the pulput doesn't belong in politics.  Keep your religion, let it teach you whatever it will, abide by it's rules.  Just don't expect others to have the same set of rules.


Helping my community:  You have no idea what I do and don't do, so I wouldn't be so quick to judge someone you don't know.  Maybe you should spend less time running all over the world trying to find that perfect baby that will look just like mommy and daddy and spend more time using that money spent on the kids here that need help.  I guess that would be too much to ask for because those children here are just too much of a pain in the a$$ for you.


You just keep on rambling on about how wonderful you are and how $hitty everyone else is.  Oh, and might I point out that most christians I know don't help others for recognition (your boasting is disgusting), they help others because they want to and because that is what their faith teaches them to do.


News flash for you.
Palin lost.

Get a new hobby.
News flash, m...
Not everyone believes the same as you. You can be shocked and disappointed all you like, it is not going to change anyone's mind. As a matter of fact, the more I learn about the mindset of the the extreme conservatives, the more liberal I become.
News flash....(sm)

The current debt of the US BEFORE this plan is $10,765,494,601,610.69 as of Feb 14, 2009.  It has continued to increase by about $3.58 billion PER DAY since Sept 28, 2007.  Hmmmm.....


I wonder what could be costing us so much?  How about this?


http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home


And you want to complain about spending money that will actually BENEFIT people. 


News flash for you......

We get the fact that this deficit was there before Obama took office.  However, there were many dems who voted in favor of the war in Iraq...including Hillary Clinton.  Bush didn't do all of this on his own.  He did all of this with the help of the rest of the government and within the last few years or so....I do believe dems controlled congress. 


All this being said, it still does not make spending 1 trillion dollars okay because....hey Bush already racked up a huge deficit first.  Government spending is part of what got us in this mess in the first place and now what is government doing.......SPENDING MORE.  I can't help but cringe. 


As far as blaming all this money being spent on Iraq......how about all the money that goes to illegal aliens daily.  We are talking billions of dollars going to illegal aliens in this country....and I do believe Obama's own aunt is one of those. 


news flash
A ton of people are already smoking pot. Probably people you would never suspect. I know teachers, lawyers, doctors, grandmothers, and even the minister of my church.

I think it is a great idea! Besides the income from the tax, we can quit wasting resources on something so absurd.
News flash....(sm)
That wasn't "god" commiting murder.  That was one of your run of the mill wacko pro-life supporters.  You must be so proud.  Since you believe that life begins at conception, what makes it okay to take one life and not okay to take another's?  You have to be the most hypocritical excuse for a human I've ever had the misfortune to meet.
News flash - yourself, you need to read
are the one trying to involve religion and "social issues."
News flash, Shelly.
There are millions of people who believe in the concept of God and not all of them believe in the same God you claim to believe in. It may be "your" one and only true God, but you cannot speak for anyone else.
???? Um. News flash. Hillary didn't win - - - nm
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News flash. Bush is not running.
nm
News flash for you.......their women are scared
They are afraid to even move the wrong way for fear of retribution. THey are afraid to let their daughters go to school because they fear what will happen to them on the way to school. Of course, the women will treat you with respect. The women aren't usually the problem. It's the beliefs the men have forced down their throats and those of their daughters. Don't misinterpret respect for fear, fear of doing anything that could get them beaten to death. There are some more liberal areas where beliefs are not as harsh and families are not so demanding of their women and daughters; Saudi Arabia and Iran are two of them, but even Iranian women are coming under attack again and are fearful of even crossing the street.

Like I have been told by Muslim women in this country who are no longer under the control of men from those countries, they feel such a relief and do not have to fear for their lives every day. They will tell you their sons are taught from a small age to chant verses of hate over and over again, brainwashing them. Only those that are lucky enough to be in a more liberal environment and even leave the country abroad for education purposes realize the difference in the teachings from other religions, where love is actually taught.
NEWS FLASH....prostitutes' business

One madam reported her girls were getting $260 for 60 minutes but now they're hurting because of the economy.   Boy, it's pretty bad when our news media thinks it's noteworthy to note the whores are hurting. 


News flash, Jon Voight is mentally ill.
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NEWS FLASH - Michelle wears flat shoes a lot!!
What in the world can we read into this?
How in the world could I have known what was going on in your personal life? sm
I have had quite a few nasty comments said to me on these boards and I have never taken them personally.  I am truly very sorry about your mother and, of course, would have never made the comment knowing your circumstances. It's a little disingenuous to present this this way.  It isn't any use speaking to you, Teddy. You have a grudge and you're going to keep it.  I am not going to bring out a long laundry list of wrongs done to me on these boards.  Feel free not to respond to me and I'll make an effort to stay off your board.
This is bulls**t. Pure and simple. But you guys LOVE the troops. News flash. SM
Recruiters are troops. 
I could give 2 shts what Bush did in his personal life...
It's what he did to this country that concerns me.
She sued and Bush lawyers got into her personal life to punish her.

This is why nobody trusts Bush.


http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/NHWidowfights9112.htm


If it's high you flash it, if it's low you hide it.....sm
like everything else, isn't it?
FLASH! Your cheap methods won't work here.
Sadly for you, people on this forum are beginning to learn how to think.

First, you don't give your source - THE HUFFINGTON POST! Get a clue that we're on to you and won't let you get away with this crap for even one minute. Try this deception again and we'll bury you.

Second, the way Boehner used the word "torture" was taken entirely out of context as he did not call our methods torture, nor did he agree that this is what they amounted to.

Here's what Boehner said - and you'll notice that it is completely different from what you are TRYING so very hard to mis-portray:

"House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) is upset with the Obama administration for releasing the torture memos and thinks the time for a public debate is over — even though the debate just seems to be heating up.

"I don't — I don't see a lot of value in looking back. ... This is another side show here in Washington," he told reporters during his weekly news conference.

"When it comes to what our interrogation techniques are going to be or should be, I — I'm not going to disclose, nor should anyone have a conversation about what those techniques ought to be. It's — it's inappropriate. All it does is give our enemies more information about us than they need."

A reporter (me) interjected: "Do you think it's inappropriate to have a public conversation about the techniques we use?"

Boehner: "Oh, I think that conversation has occurred. The president has made decisions, and we should move forward."

Me, again: "But you think — you just said it was inappropriate. You don't think ..."

Boehner: "I don't — I don't see that we're going to learn anything that — that clearly members in a bipartisan way, the congressional leaders, didn't already know about these techniques."

John Bresnahan: "Shouldn't the American public know [inaudible]? Shouldn't they have an idea?"

Boehner: "Well, listen, I — I'll take a deep breath here. [Grabs podium and inhales.] We're talking about terrorists who are hell bent on killing Americans. All right? And — and 3,000 of our fellow citizens died. And there were techniques that were used by Americans and our allies around the world that helped keep America safe."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0409/Boehner_Inappropriate_to_talk_about_torture.html
I am not in your life....I am in the life of the baby...
and will continue to speak for the baby. Again, my right.
Don't take it so personal...sm
This is a debate. We will not always agree. It is perfectly normal for you to agree on one thing and be opposed on something else, especially talking with people on the opposite of your political spectrum.

Ward Churchill - see below

Would I care of someone judged me for posting an F-word, no because I apologized and it truly was a mistake, believe it or not. I'm sure no such apology will come from Ann to these widows.

What question is it that I didn't answer?

You are right, it is personal. sm
And it has consequences and I am not talking about physical ones.
cant we do without the personal

attacks?  Hippocrite.  (A hippo crossed with a hypocrite). 


 


FOX news IS the news. The only 1 that tells BOTH
nm
It's all over the news - and I mean ALL news stations.
not just the ones you don't like.

SOY was the one who made it personal anyway.
**This fits many on THIS board...To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.**

Maybe you missed that because you've stereotyped, judged and sentenced the liberals already.


POLITICS NOT PERSONAL
I believe you are mistaken. It is almost impossible to carry on a political discussion without getting personal. Political alignments are based on personal beliefs. And as for you trials and tribulations, she said nothing about what you've gone through in your life with the exception of, you know nothing of persecution.
stooping to personal

insults, are we now?  Did you read Wally Lamb's book "She's Come Unhinged?""  A good read.


 


Right back at you...without the personal hit of course..
it is obvious whose value system is skewed. You resort to name calling and personal attacks...judging one's mental health...and sorry, when you let Clinton slide on perjury you lose all credibility of if Clinton had done this you would be disgusted...while that might be personally true, you would not be on this board crucifying him. And please, don't even try to say you would not.
I have never said anything personal about Obama.
I have nothing against him. He has a beautiful family. I am sure he is sincere...the point is, I don't agree with him. I think he is the wrong man for the job. I feel strongly about that. That is why I reply.

I have never attacked him personally, made jokes nasty jokes about him, and certainly not his family. Yet i see that constantly from the other side. The extent of the hatred and nastiness on this site might not bother anyone else...but as an Independent, it puts me off the Dem party...big time, and any positives are pretty much buried in tons of mud. That seems to be the way they do politics...see it in the mainstream media, on the dailykos (referred to one poster as a place where liberals go to post opinion...have you ever read anything there??)...if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

If there are any positives, please point them out to me. I would like to see them.

I suspect what the answer would be if they answered honestly. Of course they would support him. Because he is Obama. Because he is a Democrat. The rules are different for him.

There are indeed two Americas, and that is the way they want it. THeir way or the highway. Choice for them but not for anyone else. Freedom of religion as long as you never mention it. Does that sound like America to you?
we don;t need personal attacks.

nm


 


No need for personal potshots....
that actually reflect worse on you than the people you ridicule.
you have a personal vendetta against her and...
You continue to post time and time again saying sam this or sam that. We all enjoy hearing sams opinions and viewpoints. She is not the bully on this site (it seems you are). She has done nothing wrong to deserve being kicked off. Maybe the moderator ought to kick you off. How would you like it.

Moderate please do NOT kick sam off this board because others don't like what she has to say. I've never found her to be insulting towards others and from my understanding this is a board where we can all share things we have heard and our opinions. We all (well most of us) love sam and the due diligence she uses to research articles and she has never been rude to others and has done nothing to deserve being denied access. I have learned a lot from her posts.

Thank you moderator if you are reading this.
personal attacks are

not allowed on this board. Stop immediately.


 


personal attacks are

not allowed on this board.  Stop attacking me personally with your imagining what I have or don't have in my work area.  Stick to the issues.


 


Why the personal attacks?

This has nothing to do with this conversation.  What this person makes and why they make that is none of our business.  The point was that she didn't live beyond her means and doesn't want a handout and that right there makes her a heck of a lot better than a lot of people. 


it is a personal choice
If you make it a religious choice, it is a toss up. Most Jews believe life begins at first breath, just like when God breathed into Adam's nostril. Protestants are divided on the issue. Many mainline/reform churches take the choice stance, including PC-USA and others.

I believe it is a tough decision, but I sure as heck don't see it as murder. Since you do, you probably should not have an abortion. Since my DH had a vasectomy, I probably won't need one. But if am raped, or the vas were to fail, you can be darn sure I want to be able to make that choice.
nothing personal - it's just politics!!! nm
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Does personal responsibility mean
get off your lazy a$$, find a job, don't expect a handout, free healthcare, free college, maybe work for a living instead of expecting those of us who have been responsible to foot your bill??
What I have is personal bitterness...(sm)

for an organization operating under the pretense of religion molesting children.  Not only did they do it, they obviously condoned it by hiding the fact.  I must be nice to be a religious -- it's such a blinding experience.  You don't have to see the world as it really is.  You can just make assumptions based on your religion. 


I actually commend you on adopting children.  I do, however, wish more people would adopt children in this country.  I think it's a little bit of a double standard when one would go overseas to find a child to suit their desires and at the same time condemn this country over social issues.


And since you're waiting.....


http://www.adoptuskids.org/Child/ChildSearch.aspx


When you go to this page, don't change the criteria under *child profile* to look for the perfect child, just go to the bottom of the page and hit *search.*  I came up with 3466 children waiting for a home -- and that's just out of one agency.


how was that a personal attack?
telling you you aren't better than everyone? At least I'm not callng people mentally challenged. yes i know that wasn't you, you are the friend that just laughs along with the bully...

and if you wanna point fingers about me not responding the way you think I should have, i dont see you responding to the person giving their opinion on what trickle up means...

give it a rest it's freaking Christmas time
you obviously HAVE to have the last word so i'll let you have it. pretty pathetic that you spend your time trying to cut other people down... is that also a personal attack?
Right on! Why take personal responsibility for
nm
If you are answering to me, my personal
beliefs are strongly Christian, but I am a Christian who also believes wholeheartedly in the separation between church and state, FYI.  I was answering the person who is scared.  Christians should not be afraid of anything, if they truly believe that God is in control.  Just my opinion.
My personal feelings aside,,,
the three branches of government were meant to be equal. It was never intended for the judicial branch to be able to "overrule" the legislative branch or the voters whenever they felt that it was appropriate. It is abuse of what was meant to be a check and balance, but who checks the courts. It would appear that they have worked themselves into the final say and that is really unfortunate.
My personal opinion
FWIW, by definition civil is: "of or relating to or befitting citizens as individuals" and "of or occurring within the state or between or among citizens of the state" (per wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn), which to me is the one the government should sanction, be it gay or straight, and thereby entitle one to the legal and financial 'benefits'. Marriage, on the other hand, in my opinion could/should then be viewed as more a religious construct.
and the personal attacks continue

I too think it was a PERSONAL matter. It's unfortunate that the
republicans would stop at NOTHING to drag Bill Clinton through any kind of mud at any cost to the country down to whos blowing him.