If you are answering to me, my personal
Posted By: maggie on 2009-02-12
In Reply to: Maybe so...but what if the chosen religion - is not christianity?
beliefs are strongly Christian, but I am a Christian who also believes wholeheartedly in the separation between church and state, FYI. I was answering the person who is scared. Christians should not be afraid of anything, if they truly believe that God is in control. Just my opinion.
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Thx for answering...anyone else?! nm
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Thank you for answering me. I really
was starting to wonder. You have to realize that was one aspect of the overall picture. White men are unfairly treated in other ways and if you buy into commercials, they are the dumbest of the dumb, apparently. They are always the butt of the joke, usually against the wives. You can't help but wonder how much of this affects the kids. I really hate some of the commercials; they show things I did not particularly want mine to see. As far as I am concerned, victoria's secret is soft porn and inappropriate for children to see. My own mother last week said she wished the men and women would go get a room and quit flouting their viagra on her TV! Well, the haves will continue to look out for themselves and their kids, just ask the cops who arrested the daughter of the mayor of Houston for DUI. This is the guy who started the safe tow in Houston for those who broke down. you know those cops had theirs covered when they arrested her, but she still got off.
The single mom thing is really hard, I had 4. It does not help when they have to listen to the others at school who get every little thing their hearts desire and yours have to do without; they will be better off later and I already hear that from mine. Just the other day, my oldest told me, "Mom, I don't know what I would be doing right now since being laid off if we had not been so poor growing up - I would be losing my mind". good luck to you.
Oh, one other thing. I am seeing first hand some of the treatment now that more minorities are gaining power and some of them are worse than the good ole boys ever thought about being. I went into the workforce when laid off and took a test, made 100, that was last October, and they have never pointed me to a single job. But I was in there long enough to take in the fact they were happily helping others. I resent it and I guess some would call it payback. I think americans may have to deal with the fact that our quality of life is taking a nosedive. We will be forced to bundle up like they used to do in order to survive.
Thanks for answering.
I have been of the mind that the people promoting this line of objection possibly would never truly accept that the birth certificate is/could be legit. I appreciate that you took the time to explain not only what would alleviate your doubts, but also why you have those doubts.
In return, here is my justification for believing that his BC is legit or is a non-issue. First is that he has been in politics long enough and his presidential aspirations were known for such a length of time that if he did not meet this particular requirement, someone would have actually proven it a long time ago, especially a fellow Democratic rival. (Pols seem to be most vicious with their own at times.) Also, to me at least, the actual location of his birth is irrelevant. His mother was an American citizen, and although at the time of his birth the law required her to be 4 years past (I believe) the age of 16, later amendments were passed altering that requirement retroactively to a period beginning far beyond and encompassing the year of his birth.
As far as the "natural-born" portion of requirement meaning born on U.S. territory, well...I was born in Scotland while my parents were on vacation (and have continued to surprise them ever since). Does that mean, since my father is Scottish and my mother American, that I am ineligible to ever run for president since I was not born on American soil? I am American according to our government and have never had to apply for citizenship even though I was born in a foreign country. To me, natural-born means born to a citizen that did not require a naturalization process to become a citizen. (I sure hope I stated that in a way that makes sense.)
Also, there is some component of grandparents' citizenship that comes into play, but I have never had reason to look into that. I will though, when I get the time, and see if that has any relevance in this instance.
Thanks again for answering my question. I appreciate your honesty.
What is so hard about answering a
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Not really answering your question but ...sm
I am blessed to have lived in both Hawaii and Vermont, both VERY liberal states, both of which provide heath care to all residents in different ways, summer Vermont and winter Hawaii is my dream.
Your not answering her question
She asked how can you not think it is right for Israel to defend herself.
So, you are answering my question with
a question. And, you were not the questioner, you were the one making the following statement:
The former administration has to take the blame if S- O-M-E of these innocent, now released or soon to be released detainees are going to do any harm to you.
Since you feel that some of the detainees are innocent, would you want them to live next door to you? It's a simple question....
No one is even talking to you. We are answering OPs question to us (sm)
No one is infringing upon your rights. You are interrupting our conversation with your opinions. If OP wants your non-Christian opinion, she can ask you.
He was answering the questions posed to him - nm
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I have no problem answering your question
If "they" were going to take my money and give it to someone else of course I wouldn't like it. This garbage that is being spread about Obama taking "your" money and giving it to someone who doesn't work is just that, garbage. He has never suggested any such thing. His "redistribution" of wealth, is in the form of taking back the windfall tax cuts Bush gave to the rich. He then proposes to give more tax relief to the WORKING middle class. Anyone with half a brain and minimal intelligence should be able to understand that.
It might behoove you to read the post before answering.
Thank you for answering the disciple/alter ego question....
thought bookworm sounded too much like you not to be you.
Thank you for answering her post with a liberal talking point. :-) nm
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Typical, retreat without answering a simple question under ANY of your many names...
demean, belittle, name-call, deride, post under different names to support your view because no one else will...and as far as granting my wish...never asked you leave...you said you were leaving to hunt a job. I said see ya when you get back. That is hardly asking you to ride off into the sunset. You are so similar to Mr. Obama...birds of a feather and all that...ask a simple straight-forward question and you dodge it like it was on fire. Guess your superior intelligence just deserts you in the face of a simple question...or perhaps even you, from your lofty perch, have enough common sense to realize that there is no bigotry to what I said. You are far more bigoted toward conservatives and people you feel are inferior to you than I ever could be...and certainly more bigoted than my stance on immigration.
Still with the plaigiarism thing...good grief, you DO love to belabor a point, especially when you are wrong. Someone has always said something before...and in all your diatribes I did not find one original point. Read the same thing on leftist blogs, in articles, and on and on and on. Not one original thought from the great brain that is GT/GW/BW/FPJ.
See ya...and yeah, it HAS been fun. lol.
And no, I did not discount that FPJ could have been speaking on her own...just said if she was, she was plagiarizing you. You seemed to be so concerned about plagiarizing...not even taking into consideration that your lectures are about 98% plagiarized (by your definition...your words, not mine). Did you really think people wouldn't google?
Take care. I am still considering spiteful little vixen stationery...might even get T-shirts. :-)
Cildren answering McC/Failin robocalls scared to hear
What a brilliant campaign strategy. Scaring children. Must be really proud of their candidates authorizing this lunacy.
And my politics and faith are hand in hand. Plus I'm just answering her question.
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Question with question:why bother answering JTBB
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Don't take it so personal...sm
This is a debate. We will not always agree. It is perfectly normal for you to agree on one thing and be opposed on something else, especially talking with people on the opposite of your political spectrum.
Ward Churchill - see below
Would I care of someone judged me for posting an F-word, no because I apologized and it truly was a mistake, believe it or not. I'm sure no such apology will come from Ann to these widows.
What question is it that I didn't answer?
You are right, it is personal. sm
And it has consequences and I am not talking about physical ones.
cant we do without the personal
attacks? Hippocrite. (A hippo crossed with a hypocrite).
SOY was the one who made it personal anyway.
**This fits many on THIS board...To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.**
Maybe you missed that because you've stereotyped, judged and sentenced the liberals already.
POLITICS NOT PERSONAL
I believe you are mistaken. It is almost impossible to carry on a political discussion without getting personal. Political alignments are based on personal beliefs. And as for you trials and tribulations, she said nothing about what you've gone through in your life with the exception of, you know nothing of persecution.
stooping to personal
insults, are we now? Did you read Wally Lamb's book "She's Come Unhinged?"" A good read.
Right back at you...without the personal hit of course..
it is obvious whose value system is skewed. You resort to name calling and personal attacks...judging one's mental health...and sorry, when you let Clinton slide on perjury you lose all credibility of if Clinton had done this you would be disgusted...while that might be personally true, you would not be on this board crucifying him. And please, don't even try to say you would not.
I have never said anything personal about Obama.
I have nothing against him. He has a beautiful family. I am sure he is sincere...the point is, I don't agree with him. I think he is the wrong man for the job. I feel strongly about that. That is why I reply.
I have never attacked him personally, made jokes nasty jokes about him, and certainly not his family. Yet i see that constantly from the other side. The extent of the hatred and nastiness on this site might not bother anyone else...but as an Independent, it puts me off the Dem party...big time, and any positives are pretty much buried in tons of mud. That seems to be the way they do politics...see it in the mainstream media, on the dailykos (referred to one poster as a place where liberals go to post opinion...have you ever read anything there??)...if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
If there are any positives, please point them out to me. I would like to see them.
I suspect what the answer would be if they answered honestly. Of course they would support him. Because he is Obama. Because he is a Democrat. The rules are different for him.
There are indeed two Americas, and that is the way they want it. THeir way or the highway. Choice for them but not for anyone else. Freedom of religion as long as you never mention it. Does that sound like America to you?
we don;t need personal attacks.
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No need for personal potshots....
that actually reflect worse on you than the people you ridicule.
you have a personal vendetta against her and...
You continue to post time and time again saying sam this or sam that. We all enjoy hearing sams opinions and viewpoints. She is not the bully on this site (it seems you are). She has done nothing wrong to deserve being kicked off. Maybe the moderator ought to kick you off. How would you like it.
Moderate please do NOT kick sam off this board because others don't like what she has to say. I've never found her to be insulting towards others and from my understanding this is a board where we can all share things we have heard and our opinions. We all (well most of us) love sam and the due diligence she uses to research articles and she has never been rude to others and has done nothing to deserve being denied access. I have learned a lot from her posts.
Thank you moderator if you are reading this.
personal attacks are
not allowed on this board. Stop immediately.
personal attacks are
not allowed on this board. Stop attacking me personally with your imagining what I have or don't have in my work area. Stick to the issues.
Why the personal attacks?
This has nothing to do with this conversation. What this person makes and why they make that is none of our business. The point was that she didn't live beyond her means and doesn't want a handout and that right there makes her a heck of a lot better than a lot of people.
it is a personal choice
If you make it a religious choice, it is a toss up. Most Jews believe life begins at first breath, just like when God breathed into Adam's nostril. Protestants are divided on the issue. Many mainline/reform churches take the choice stance, including PC-USA and others.
I believe it is a tough decision, but I sure as heck don't see it as murder. Since you do, you probably should not have an abortion. Since my DH had a vasectomy, I probably won't need one. But if am raped, or the vas were to fail, you can be darn sure I want to be able to make that choice.
nothing personal - it's just politics!!! nm
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Does personal responsibility mean
get off your lazy a$$, find a job, don't expect a handout, free healthcare, free college, maybe work for a living instead of expecting those of us who have been responsible to foot your bill??
What I have is personal bitterness...(sm)
for an organization operating under the pretense of religion molesting children. Not only did they do it, they obviously condoned it by hiding the fact. I must be nice to be a religious -- it's such a blinding experience. You don't have to see the world as it really is. You can just make assumptions based on your religion.
I actually commend you on adopting children. I do, however, wish more people would adopt children in this country. I think it's a little bit of a double standard when one would go overseas to find a child to suit their desires and at the same time condemn this country over social issues.
And since you're waiting.....
http://www.adoptuskids.org/Child/ChildSearch.aspx
When you go to this page, don't change the criteria under *child profile* to look for the perfect child, just go to the bottom of the page and hit *search.* I came up with 3466 children waiting for a home -- and that's just out of one agency.
how was that a personal attack?
telling you you aren't better than everyone? At least I'm not callng people mentally challenged. yes i know that wasn't you, you are the friend that just laughs along with the bully...
and if you wanna point fingers about me not responding the way you think I should have, i dont see you responding to the person giving their opinion on what trickle up means...
give it a rest it's freaking Christmas time
you obviously HAVE to have the last word so i'll let you have it. pretty pathetic that you spend your time trying to cut other people down... is that also a personal attack?
Right on! Why take personal responsibility for
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My personal feelings aside,,,
the three branches of government were meant to be equal. It was never intended for the judicial branch to be able to "overrule" the legislative branch or the voters whenever they felt that it was appropriate. It is abuse of what was meant to be a check and balance, but who checks the courts. It would appear that they have worked themselves into the final say and that is really unfortunate.
My personal opinion
FWIW, by definition civil is: "of or relating to or befitting citizens as individuals" and "of or occurring within the state or between or among citizens of the state" (per wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn), which to me is the one the government should sanction, be it gay or straight, and thereby entitle one to the legal and financial 'benefits'. Marriage, on the other hand, in my opinion could/should then be viewed as more a religious construct.
and the personal attacks continue
I too think it was a PERSONAL matter. It's unfortunate that the
republicans would stop at NOTHING to drag Bill Clinton through any kind of mud at any cost to the country down to whos blowing him.
You must not have read the personal comment at the end then.
Sounds like you have a personal problem....
And no, I don't have to deal with it. I don't take orders from folks with psychological problems on a forum. Do you?
I don't even know what I'd be lying about anyway. My guess is that you don't know either and that you are obviously just trolling.
and let's NOT forget personal slander
You all have directly slandered MT, and it shouldn't be tolerated in any form.
I'll hand your bog back to you and step aside.
Politics of personal destruction
If a conservative talked about an African-American woman like this we would be called racists and even worse.
If all you have to criticize is her shopping habit then you really have nothing to criticize.
What I said was hardly a personal attack, Fern. sm
It was an observation. I think I know who you are, hiding there behind all those forest nicknames.
How in the world could I have known what was going on in your personal life? sm
I have had quite a few nasty comments said to me on these boards and I have never taken them personally. I am truly very sorry about your mother and, of course, would have never made the comment knowing your circumstances. It's a little disingenuous to present this this way. It isn't any use speaking to you, Teddy. You have a grudge and you're going to keep it. I am not going to bring out a long laundry list of wrongs done to me on these boards. Feel free not to respond to me and I'll make an effort to stay off your board.
forgot my own personal favorite
How is this considered effective and balanced political debate?
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You two are....peas in a pod....twins joined at the brain....
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actually more like a ventriloquist and his buddy. Just not sure which one's hand is up which one's back. "I second that." "Oh I just got goose bumps." lol. Gotta love you two. So entertaining. |
Maybe so, but it is personal choice how this is handled...
and you can see how people here chose to handle it. I find that reprehensible, sorry. If the media was making the kind of judgments these people are, it would be reprehensible on their part too. Are you going to say the same thing if people turn their criticism on Obama's mother, who was also not married when she had him?
I am sure it was discussed before Palin accepted the nomination. Obama's mother was 18 when she had him, 1 year earlier. There are lots of women out there who vote who had children out of wedlock or have pregnant teenagers or had pregnant teenagers...do you think they are going to be kindly disposed to a campaign whose followers want to condemn Sarah Palin for that?
I really don't think they realize it, and the media too...if they dwell on it, they will deep six his candidacy. And to take your words...there will be no turning back then.
Preacher of personal responsibility: When do
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Personal attack politics. You really don't know any other way...do you?
Says more about you than me.
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