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His own mother signed him up as Muslim

Posted By: she had a choice of Christian....nm on 2008-10-11
In Reply to: This is a lie. Cite the rag you call a source. - Obama has never been a Moslem. sm

This was at a public school in Indonesia, where other faiths are taught as well. The records are there in his mother's handwriting. She signed him up not to have Christian lessions but Islamic.


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Stepfather adopted him as Muslim and he was signed up
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Raised by a Muslim father and Christian mother
It is a crock, it was refuted. You live in a very small world with no understanding of other cultures. That picture shows me that when he returned to Kenya to meet his father's family, he put on clothing that other Kenyan men wear...Christians and Muslims alike. When I lived in the Middle East with my husband and his family, I wore Hijab and covered my head out of RESPECT for them and for the people whose country I was visiting. Respect obviously is a foreign concept to you. Christiane Amanpour is a Christian who travels to the Middle East and when she does, she covers her head and wears hijab, like she did when she made God's Warriors. Barbara Walters wears a head cover when traveling in the Middle East. She is a Christian. I will not waste my time citing any other examples to support my claim that you are so small minded, bigoted and misinformed it borders on the criminal.
not THEIRS, mother is American and Catholic, father and stepfather Muslim..
yes and Islamic teachings only t h e s e 4 years in Jakarta, Indonesia, and maybe only 2 years.
Barack was 7-11 years old at that time.
He is Muslim, born Muslim, raised Muslim
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He was born to a Muslim father and raised Muslim
for a time. You don't get to choose to drop out of that religion. Doesn't matter if you were born into it and didn't choose it to begin with. Leaving earns you a death sentence, especially such a public conversion to another religion.  Why does he get to be a Christian now and nobody in radical Islam is calling for his head on pike?  Unless.......
Going to a Muslim school doesn't make him Muslim
And point of fact is that it was 2 years in Catholic school, 2 years in a "Muslim" school. He was living in Indonesia. He had to attend school in Indonesia. His mother, doing what mothers do, wanted him to get the best education available. She tried 2 years at the Catholic school and then determined at that point that the quality of education provided was better at the Muslim school. There was some teaching of Muslim philosophy but this more emphasis was paid to standard educational requirements, what's referred to as the 3 Rs (Reading, wRiting, 'Rithmetic).

Attending a school with some affiliation does not automatically confer the same status on you. Jews can go to Catholics without converting. Whites can go to those schools thought of as primary African-American without becoming black. Sometimes, folks, a school is just a school, and 2 years in an extremely secular school at the ages of 8-10 does not turn him into a radical Muslim.

Frankly, his education and family life seems like it makes him almost the perfect president to be able to understand and empathize with a much wider range of American citizens than any president before him.
Why is it racist to call a Muslim a Muslim?
A Christian doesn't mind being called a Christian.

Your phony indignation just proves how oversensitive people are to perceived slights these days.
Don't think so. There is a signed
agreement until 2011. The O can't pull out the troops as fast as he wants and, anyway, he wants to put them in Afghanistan, so how will thant end the war? It won't, not until the terrorists are taken out.
This comes from someone who signed off on a....sm
stimulus bill that was so full of pork which, BTW, he still says was not - yeah, right. I feel so much better now.
he signed NAFTA, and now
my job's gone over there, over there, and it won't be back, naw, it ain't ever coming back, and the buck won't stop until it's gone over there.

ditto all you said.
OBAMA signed it too...
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Me too! He's just signed on for the toughest
He's inherited a huge pile of problems in this country, and around the world that the US is involved in, and considering the mess he's up against, we can't expect everything to be coming up roses soon, and in some cases ever. But I truly believe he's sincere about at least TRYING to do something about putting this country and its people right again. I also believe things are probably going to get worse, possibly a LOT worse, before they can start to get better. But at least now I feel we have some hope.

I wish nothing but the best to President-Elect Obama and his family!
It's done. He just signed the package.
Got a kick out the guy who owns a small business out there. So young and employs 55 people in 3 years. He mispronounced Biden's name and everybody laughed. I don't think he realized what he did. He was nervous.
True, he signed it, but...
I think the cartoon was rather referring to the monkeys we have in Congress - they were the ones that actually wrote the bill. I don't know - maybe I'm just looking at it differently.
Sorry, I should have signed this not "sm" but
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That's what the cartoon says, but Obama signed it..nm
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It's on youtube and in the documents signed
They "double speak" in the documents. Things like - "It is totally voluntary, everyone ages 18-25 WILL serve. This is something they are required to do as a citizen, total voluntary, and will make them better citizens". I may be off by one or two words but if you pull up youtube and type in Rahm Emanuel mandatory service there are a few different videos you can watch. It's also in the bills they passed. They are just calling it something different than the military because it's easier to hide it that way. Which by the way, once your child signs the papers and has had their basic training there is nothing that will stop them from being called to go fight in a war - after all "its their patriotic duty", oh and they shouldn't ever complain about it either.

I'll tell you, it's turning into a very scary country and I'm wondering if anyone in WA has a backbone anymore.
HMMMM...over 16,000 signed petition
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Well, you just signed your death warrant on this board

because you just listed many things the liberals here hold as Gospel.


 


It would not matter. If I had posted that question and signed it...
obama supporter they would have known it was me, or would have assumed it was a Republican...which are equally bad in their eyes...because they know one democrat would never ask another democrat that question. They can't answer it. If they said yes, well you know what that suggests. They couldn't say no either, because they think whatever Obama does is right.

That is the difference in us. If OBama was the President, and he made as good a case as was made for going into Iraq (back when everybody including the Democrats believed there was wMD, were for it before they were against it), I would support him, because it would be in the best interest of the country. That is putting country first.

I might be sick about everything else he plans to do as President, but if he used military force to keep Iran from getting a nuke, yes, I would support Barack Obama. You heard it here first.

On the other hand, if he didn't and the inevitable resulted...I would take him to task. That also is putting country first...before party, before politics.

But that is just me.
But he just signed a bill filled with earmarks???
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Young black man said he signed up 73 times
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VIRGINIA TECH. That's why this bill was signed.

If you remember, most of the mass shootings, etc. are done by people who are not quite "there" mentally. Virginia Tech is a good example. That boy was mentally ill and was not allowed to own a firearm, yet he did buy one because the database did not include his name. It could have been avoided had all the state databases been tied to the NCIS.


http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=485


I signed and already heard back from my Congressman
of course, it was a generic letter that the matter is being looked into, etc., but at least I know they got it. I hope we can all bombard their offices with e-mails. We have to have our voices heard.

Please everyone, no matter what your political inclinations, this is for the good of the MT industry - our very jobs. Make your voice heard!
He was signed up for Islamic teachings 4 hours
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parents signed their child up for the religion teaching
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Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not sure if Bill Clinton signed this into law, but it surely came to be

under his watch. 


Unlike the "Bush supporters" of this day and time, I can and will admit when a president I admired (Bill Clinton) has done something I disagree with.


 



He has a Muslim name and comes from
stretch, really, and the fact that Dems want to completely disown that are just as asinine as the Repubs that keep harping on it. He has Muslim in his background and went to a Muslim school, this is fact. He might not be a practicing Muslim NOW, but he was taught Muslim beliefs at an impressionable age. Hard to say if any of it stuck, and of course he'd never say if it did. Muslims planned attacks against us for YEARS, right under our nose in our own country. It's beyond me how anyone can ignore the idea that they also might be capable of taking a young man, shaping him and his background to one day become POTUS, thereby accomplishing precisely what they continually threaten: To destroy us from within. They probably laugh at how quickly Americans embraced someone with Muslim name and former Muslim ties, and even if Obama's not their man, now they know how easy it would be.
I don't believe that every Muslim

is a terrorist.  I believe that there are good people and bad people....just like every other race, religion, etc.  However, when it comes to Jihadists who can come over to our country and blend in with good muslims who reside in our country and are willing to kill themself as long as they take out as many "infidels" as they can.....that is what gives us all fear.  You can't look at Muslims and pick out the ones who would willingly befriend you and the one who would much rather blow you up.  It has made many of us scared of ALL muslims and not just the ones responsible for these horrible acts.


Not a Muslim
He's not a Muslim. Think about it - how many muslims do you know are pro gay rights and pro choice?
he is a muslim
He said so himself on TV.
he is a muslim
His full name is Barrack Hussain Obama.
If he is a Muslim then why has he ...sm
practiced Christianity for 20 years, I believe it is? Muslims do not practice Christianity. His father was a Muslim from Africa. He was raised by his grandmother and mother and was a Christian.
Okay, he is not muslim, but


I'm not Muslim, but...

...the very first time I heard Obama speak at the Democratic convention, I remember thinking that he will be President someday.


Maybe it's more of an "Obama" thing than a "Muslim" thing.


Huh.......must be that PT mother you so
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How many did your mother have?
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Does your mother know you are up
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Does your mother know
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They are all in this together, even the mother, ..sm
The mother should have told her..'I am not going to take care of your 6 children anymore, stop having babies', BEFORE she went through IVF.

This are all poor people who use this 'babymaking scheme'
to abuse teh welfare system.
I have nothing against the Muslim religion anyway

I would bet that there are millions of Muslims throughout the world who are exceptionally good, hardworking people.  It seems to me that each religion has people who will try to twist it around as an excuse to do just about anything.  Look at those Baptists down south who protest gays at dead soldiers funerals because they say God is killing all these soldiers because American is getting too accepting of gay people.  These Baptists are obviously horrible people, but does that mean all Baptists distort their religion to spew hate and prey on grieving families?  Of course not.


I could care less what religion Obama is or was at one time.  I think he is an excellent candidate.  He is one of the few people who could turn this country (and maybe even this world) around.  We need someone strong enough and smart enough to lead this country and help to unite us again, and I think he's the man for the job.  I also agree with what someone else said in regard to his knowledge of the Muslim religion/culture being a good thing, especially considering our current dire situation.


really? well it is written that he was a muslim
http://freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm
Obama/muslim
All this hoopla about Obama being muslim.  Has anyone bothered to go to the Rev. Jeremiah's church website and read what they believe?  Now that'll scare the daylights out ofya.  Amazes me how people will gag at a knat and swallow a camel.  Then there's McCain who scares the bejezus out of me.  We simply can't afford 4 more years of Bush-nomics nor can we afford 100 more years in Iraq,  I won't vote for either of them but if someone held a gun to my head and I had to choose, I would take my chances with the unknown Obama rather than the known McCain.  Before someone tells me to get my facts straight, I have.  I've been fanatic in reading and listening to everything about both of them trying to find something I can support, which I haven't yet done.  My mind is not colored by either "Democrat" or "Republican."  People had better wake up before it's too late if it isn't already.  LIke all this pig/bulldog/soccer mom/lipstich crap, nothing more than to keep silly American citizens' minds off the REAL issues. This campaign, on both sides, is a disgrace to this GREAT NATION.
The fact that he has a Muslim name
means exactly what?  We will be destroyed from within but it won't be any one person who will destroy us.  We, the people, will destroy ourselves from within and we're contributing to it right here on this forum!!!!! 
You obviously have no clue as to the Muslim...sm
or any other religion other than your own. There a zealots in every religion, I repeat, EVERY religion, closed minded people who believe everything that they hear from dubious sources. Do you know anything about any religion other than Christian? I should mention that I am a Christian. The Muslim religion is very devout, fundimentally believe in the same God Christians believe in, they believe in peace and goodness for their people. They believe Jesus was a good man, a prophet, but do not believe he is the son of God. I have Muslim friends. They DO NOT believe in the extremism of Osama bin Laden and are proud Americans. Something that everyone should keep in mind is that every? major war that has been fought in history has been somehow or other be fought or justified by involking the name of God.
Now why does Obama need a Muslim

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/3557 


I have also been in a Muslim country
And, as a westerner, which we were referred to, ALL western women are seen as loose women, basically whores; there is no respect there. I was given rules like don't use your left hand because that's vile, don't reprimand your child in public; that's wrong also, the rules went on and on and on. Women are treated like dirt where I was and in most Muslim countries. They get raped; they are guilty. They get stoned, they are beaten. I saw this. That is not love.
He is Christian but I am Muslim and I have to tell you.....
There are wonderful muslims just like there are wonderful Christians. Then there are those Christians who bomb abortion clinics. There is Timothy McVeigh who was a Christian. Obama is not a muslim, but what if he were? I think you are racist. Be ashamed.
but he did have a Muslim upbringing. He sm
can't/won't produce any documentation that proves he was born in the United States because he wasn't. If you are not a US Citizen, you CAN'T be president of the United States.
Black? You mean muslim.
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I don't know much about the Muslim religion (sm)
but I do know that no one is born a Christian. That is not how we see it. You can be born to a Christian family and be taught Christian beliefs but you have to consciously decide to become a Christian, it is not something you are automatically born as.