True, he signed it, but...
Posted By: Zville MT on 2009-02-19
In Reply to: That's what the cartoon says, but Obama signed it..nm - van
I think the cartoon was rather referring to the monkeys we have in Congress - they were the ones that actually wrote the bill. I don't know - maybe I'm just looking at it differently.
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Don't think so. There is a signed
agreement until 2011. The O can't pull out the troops as fast as he wants and, anyway, he wants to put them in Afghanistan, so how will thant end the war? It won't, not until the terrorists are taken out.
This comes from someone who signed off on a....sm
stimulus bill that was so full of pork which, BTW, he still says was not - yeah, right. I feel so much better now.
he signed NAFTA, and now
my job's gone over there, over there, and it won't be back, naw, it ain't ever coming back, and the buck won't stop until it's gone over there.
ditto all you said.
OBAMA signed it too...
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Me too! He's just signed on for the toughest
He's inherited a huge pile of problems in this country, and around the world that the US is involved in, and considering the mess he's up against, we can't expect everything to be coming up roses soon, and in some cases ever. But I truly believe he's sincere about at least TRYING to do something about putting this country and its people right again. I also believe things are probably going to get worse, possibly a LOT worse, before they can start to get better. But at least now I feel we have some hope.
I wish nothing but the best to President-Elect Obama and his family!
It's done. He just signed the package.
Got a kick out the guy who owns a small business out there. So young and employs 55 people in 3 years. He mispronounced Biden's name and everybody laughed. I don't think he realized what he did. He was nervous.
Sorry, I should have signed this not "sm" but
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His own mother signed him up as Muslim
This was at a public school in Indonesia, where other faiths are taught as well. The records are there in his mother's handwriting. She signed him up not to have Christian lessions but Islamic.
That's what the cartoon says, but Obama signed it..nm
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It's on youtube and in the documents signed
They "double speak" in the documents. Things like - "It is totally voluntary, everyone ages 18-25 WILL serve. This is something they are required to do as a citizen, total voluntary, and will make them better citizens". I may be off by one or two words but if you pull up youtube and type in Rahm Emanuel mandatory service there are a few different videos you can watch. It's also in the bills they passed. They are just calling it something different than the military because it's easier to hide it that way. Which by the way, once your child signs the papers and has had their basic training there is nothing that will stop them from being called to go fight in a war - after all "its their patriotic duty", oh and they shouldn't ever complain about it either.
I'll tell you, it's turning into a very scary country and I'm wondering if anyone in WA has a backbone anymore.
HMMMM...over 16,000 signed petition
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Well, you just signed your death warrant on this board
because you just listed many things the liberals here hold as Gospel.
It would not matter. If I had posted that question and signed it...
obama supporter they would have known it was me, or would have assumed it was a Republican...which are equally bad in their eyes...because they know one democrat would never ask another democrat that question. They can't answer it. If they said yes, well you know what that suggests. They couldn't say no either, because they think whatever Obama does is right.
That is the difference in us. If OBama was the President, and he made as good a case as was made for going into Iraq (back when everybody including the Democrats believed there was wMD, were for it before they were against it), I would support him, because it would be in the best interest of the country. That is putting country first.
I might be sick about everything else he plans to do as President, but if he used military force to keep Iran from getting a nuke, yes, I would support Barack Obama. You heard it here first.
On the other hand, if he didn't and the inevitable resulted...I would take him to task. That also is putting country first...before party, before politics.
But that is just me.
But he just signed a bill filled with earmarks???
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Young black man said he signed up 73 times
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VIRGINIA TECH. That's why this bill was signed.
If you remember, most of the mass shootings, etc. are done by people who are not quite "there" mentally. Virginia Tech is a good example. That boy was mentally ill and was not allowed to own a firearm, yet he did buy one because the database did not include his name. It could have been avoided had all the state databases been tied to the NCIS.
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=485
I signed and already heard back from my Congressman
of course, it was a generic letter that the matter is being looked into, etc., but at least I know they got it. I hope we can all bombard their offices with e-mails. We have to have our voices heard.
Please everyone, no matter what your political inclinations, this is for the good of the MT industry - our very jobs. Make your voice heard!
He was signed up for Islamic teachings 4 hours
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Stepfather adopted him as Muslim and he was signed up
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parents signed their child up for the religion teaching
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Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not sure if Bill Clinton signed this into law, but it surely came to be
under his watch.
Unlike the "Bush supporters" of this day and time, I can and will admit when a president I admired (Bill Clinton) has done something I disagree with.
That's true - and Barack Obama is a true Patriot too.
Again we can agree to disagree. How John McCain has voted goes against everything I want as a President, but there are an equal number of people to me who feel opposite. That's the way it goes.
Your last comment brought to mind how true that is. Being a true patriot is not harmful in a candidate. John McCain is a patriot. So is Barack Obama.
I thougth you signed off for the night with a good night to all
Welcome back. Yeah, I saw the same flip off he gave Hillary - nice gesture and respect to a woman who fought hard to get where she is at. Such disrespect.
BTW - I don't know anyone who uses their middle finger to scratch their face.
Everything you said is true and can be
easily seen by just reading the board.
At least it can be seen by most of us.
But it IS true.
I saw a feature on it. They had videotapes of the recruiters coaching the kids on how to pass a urine drug screen. It is absolutely true.
I don't think that is true at all. sm
I think a lot of people are pretty sick of Cindy and her histrionics. I don't see it as political at all. A lot of people aren't going to sit by this time for another Vietnam where the antiwar crowd totally influenced the way the war was run.
Not true. sm
They are pro troops and pro Israel. You are definitely not reading that board right. Is it the guns that offend you? Or the war with Islamic radicals who all want us dead? I mean, what EXACTLY offends you the most?
LOL!!! Oh how true! nm
Not true
Re-upped? He joined the military because all his friends did. Read Cindy's description of how he got hoodwinked into going. Re-upped? No.
LOL. I like that...so true...nm
When in doubt, blame Clinton.
the true me
Happy and peaceful but when I deal with rabid conservatives attacking me..I attack back..Happy and peaceful in my life and in my beliefs, you bet, totally..I can sleep well at night cause I know my ideology/politics help people, I help people..I am an extremely happy peaceful accepting person..However, when I get attacked, I can give as good as I get..I do have to say, the net does not show the true person, so I dont see the true you and you dont see the true me..I have met people who I have only known in the net and when we met, we became friends..So I would take with a grain of salt the impression you get of people over the net..we are much more..
So true sm
That clip would be hilarious if it were not so true. It is frightening how true it is.
It's true. SM
I remember Nan talking about it. It was way way back when some of us used to put our e-mails on line here.
This is SO true.nm
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True that is.
Lesson good.
Even if that was true (and I don't believe it is), so what?
The one thing the radical right wing HATES is the fact that we have freedom of religion in this country. We are all free (so far, anyway) to believe in whatever religion we choose. It might be Christianity, or it might be something else. Why does it even concern YOU how many Democrats are Christian? It's simply none of your business, yet you want to jump to conclusions that may or may not be true and judge an entire group of people based upon religious beliefs, some of which might be different from yours.
This is my main problem with the radical Christian right. They don't seem to believe that other religions are just as good as theirs. They believe theirs is the best, and anyone who doesn't share their specific religious beliefs are judged to be inferior people. You want to force your narrow views on everyone, and surely you must know that just isn't going to happen in America.
However, if Americans don't wake up soon and if you manage to wreck America and turn it into a theocracy, I can and WILL move to Canada in a heartbeat to escape your religious bigotry. By the way, wasn't that the reason this country was formed to begin with -- to end religious persecution?
I can only wonder why YOU haven't been nominated for Supreme Court justice, since you seem to have the only qualification required by Bush.
Oh, that's right. You're obviously not one of his close personal *friends* who worships him like a god and licks his boots.
Why should she? It's true!
NOT TRUE!
MT was responding to a CHALLENGE to people to put their *money where their mouth is* and if they think this war is so *noble,* then why don't they either enlist or sign up for civilian services over there.
MT said she WILL. NO PROBLEM. SHE WILL.
No spin. They are her words. She didn't say *might* or *would* or *maybe.* She said she WILL.
You're the one who's doing the spinning.
I know it's not true.
Completely false and irresponsible.
Yes, well, that may be true.
And this board is intolerant and extremely violently angry.
Now this isn't true.
I am disappointed in you, PK. We had a pretty good conversation on here at one time. I actually thought there was some communication and I have enjoyed posting here. I never sidetracked anything or anyone. I was on topic. However, many of the questions I have asked her in response to allegations have never ever been answered. Why is that?
How true.
LOL! If I didn't know in advance that this paragraph was about Ann Coultergeist, I would have sworn you were describing the Conservative Board.
I know. Everything you said is true.
I hope you have a great 4th, LVMT. 
Not true
but nice try. :)
So true.
But more and more Americans are waking up every day and seeing how they have been deceived by this administration. I doubt that any of the die-hards on these boards will ever change their minds and see what's in front of their noses, but the good news is they represent an increasing minority in the USA today. :-)
This is true, we should be able to
hear the debate, but I have a problem with Bush debating anything...he is so embarrassing whenever he speaks...so embarrassing. We NEED a STATESMAN!!! and someone who has a command of the English language. Oh plleeeeze. (thud)
Not true...
It's rare that the baby is full term, but not all ectopic pregnancies fail.
Just thought I'd clear that up. :)
K
if what you say is true
Then by golly the Republicans surely have gone downhill a long, long, long ways recently. Especially if you judged them by the surly cruel posts made by the Republicans on this board!
Morally bankrupt Republicans with Annie Coulter at the helm!!!! He-he-he-he.. That ship is gonna sink!!
This is true.
But I have noticed that you always are civil. I think you are the only one on this board who keeps a level head, even when you come to the other board. Just an observation.
What you say is true,
but their president is cutting off his nose to spite his face. If we would just give him enough rope to hang himself I think he will take himself out. I understand he has become very unpopular, ignoring completely the platform he was elected on and the people are not happy. I believe he will be deposed one way or another and perhaps we will not have to invade yet a third country.
This is true, and here's why. sm
Or at least one reason why. When Rosie O'Donnell practically glorifies Sheik Mohammed on her show, not one voice from the liberals decrying this is heard. When the protesters marched and some of the signs were horrible, then burned a soldier in effigy, and in Arizona, dragged an American soldier effigy through the streets reminiscent of Somalia, not one voice from the Democrats is heard saying this is not right. I think the whole party has slid all the way down the slippery slope and over the edge.
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