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I'd love to continue to argue with you

Posted By: gourdpainter on 2008-11-29
In Reply to: But they are "credible" as you stated above. sm - m

but at the moment I have more pressing things to do outside of politics....like making a difference in the community I live in.  I'm sure I'll be back to argue with you some more later.  LOL


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You just love to argue, don'tcha? Don't answer that.
I know you're answer. I just posted a news item. Sheesh!
Love, love, love John Stewart. . .

the bit about the open microphone on McCain during the debate was brilliant!!! I laughed until I literally cried!!  By the way, Michelle Obama was warm, intelligent, sincere and very much First Lady material!!!


I think it all shows that Christianity is valued with the love of the dollar, not the love of Christ
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I love democrats! I love most of the past democratic presidents (sm)
I would love for there to be a good democrat I could vote for. I want good leadership and I want change. But I truly believe to purposely ignore a symbol speaks volumes. He is not just asking the symbol to wait, he is ignoring it on purpose. Avoiding it on purpose. Why do you think that is? There is a reason. Can you not see it?
I love the class of liberals....just love it...
ignore the truth and attack personally. Shows a lot of tolerance.
"it tells me to love them as I would love myself"...(sm)

This must be why you so obviously love Muslims? 


You do realize that you contradict yourself on just about every other post you make?  ROFL..


We can argue this....

until the cows come homes, but how can you explain the fact that the tax cuts have produced HIGHER TAX REVENUES THAN AT ANY TIME DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION, EVEN WITH HIS TAX HIKES?


Yes, the rich get the bulk of tax cuts, that's because THEY pay most of the taxes.  They also pay them at a higher rate.  And lest we forget the millions who dropped OFF the tax rolls after the Bush tax cuts. 


Who am I to argue
I guess they could get a million African-Americans to say he was not a racist, but as long as you say so, it must be true. 
One could argue that.
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Oh, please. Why argue about
how something might not be true because someone with a beef against Bush said it? Sure, take it into consideration but then go find out the truth! You seem to imply that people must be lying about anything they say if they don't like Bush. Where did you get such a notion, if you really have it?

Newsflash! - People can disagree with Bush policies and still be telling the truth! But ultimately it's up to YOU to judge the truth of any claim from EITHER side - and using a measure of who likes him and who doesn't like him to decide what truth is, is not going to cut it for whoever thinks that's going to work.
I'd like to see someone argue with this.

The next to the last paragraph was the most telling.  I wonder if this prediction will come true before the end of 2006 (after the elections, of course).


Dr. Charles finally goes to bed after this, his first bit of Google-cut-and-paste-environmental-journalism, fully expecting but hoping not to wake up in a world in which gas costs $10/gallon and we're at war with Iran.


No, I am not going to argue with you...
I wanted to know your reasoning and now I know it. Thank you for your honesty!
you can't argue with

the True Believers of JM/SP.  There is no fact or situation that would deter them from their dogged quest to drag the country to even lower depths.


 


Can't argue with that...how else will they ever
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Sam, you just want to argue -
You know that if you don't pay taxes you cannot get a tax cut - you know what he means when he says 95% of Americans. You are just trying to blow smoke so that people who read what you say and nothing else will vote your way and think Obama is just this horrible person who is going to take all their money and give it to those scumbags who don't do nothing...

Nothing anybody say is going to satisfy you - you are just going to keep going in circles...

we understand that you do not like Obama, but you don't have to just deliberately act dumb because it is obvious you are not dumb!
There is no way I will argue with
on high with this breakdown of her most despised party's ideology. I am just a meager 4-decade party member in need of enlightenment on my own party's platforms.

But I will say this much. Within his own party establishment, Rahm Emanuel is NOT considered to be in ranks of the left or progressives. One only has to tune in to Pacifica and listen to Amy Goodman tear him inside out to understand this particular concept. That discussion will be aired on Democracy Now! if anyone out there is interested in such analysis. But then again, none of us could possibly know as much as Sam does about this pick.

The examples of his support for the war and his pro-Israel stance are diametrically opposed to left-wing views. Since I am not in the habit of researching right-wing blogs for my education, I am also not qualified to comment on the rest of this propaganda. Take it away, Sam. That's your territory, not mine.
It may continue until........sm
about 3-1/2 years before the end of time.

Your refusal to pull your head out of the sand, in my opinion, regarding what will happen makes any further discussion of this issue futile. Hope the sand protects your little head when all heck breaks loose.
My OP would argue otherwise.
RE: Smoke and mirrors. I never said I disbelieved the report. I simply decided to research it for myself and draw my own conclusions, based on the facts at hand, not some incoherent and not terribly credible right-wing rant. You might try it sometime. You know what they say. It's not the destination, but the journey.
exactly, how can they argue this... SERIOUSLY
Ghostmom... how highly observant of you, why didn't anyone think of that before...

I just dont know how they will respond to you and spin it. or they wont respond because they can't defend it...


exactly, how can they argue this...
Ghostmom... how highly observant of you, why didn't anyone think of that before...

I just dont know how they will respond to you and spin it. or they wont respond because they can't defend it...


I am not asking to argue, but who is sm
it that you claim to be "your god?" Why would you not want to "share your faith" if you have faith and know you are going to heaven.
why do we have to continue with what others before
did wrong?

Tit-for-tat and 2 wrongs doesn't make anything right.

Obama is a very promising and respectable 44th President of the United States of America and if you do not see that, I feel very sorry for you.
and yet you continue...
to slander everyone on this board who doesn't agree with you.
I will continue to care for the little guy
Well, you go ahead and defend big corporations and the rich..frankly, they could not care about you one bit.  I will continue to care for the middle class, the poor, the disadvantaged.
Why must you continue to post?
Nah, just someone who cannot imagine why a neocon dinosaur who knows she/he is not wanted or needed on the liberal board would continue to post. 
I am too tired to argue it. sm
You win everything!  Whatever that is.  Besides, it's all silly compared to what really matters in the world.  Have a good one!
I cannot argue with someone who thinks as you do.
You decry killing of innocent civilians when they are Muslim only.  Israeli have lived with killings for decades. Where was your pain then? 
go ahead...continue...
....being rude.

Life's too short to be so full of hate, directed at every member of the opposite viewpoint.

But as you say, the silence is deafening....maybe you need a hearing aid??
Big 3 talks continue....... sm

According to the article linked below and others I have read, the two of the three auto makers who will be receiving these emergency loans will be required to either show a viable plan for their industries by March 31, 2009,  or face repayment of the loans.  While I agree with the premise of this requirement, I have to wonder if, given the amount of time that it took them to get into this situation in the first place, will 3 months, more or less, be enough time for them to find a way to save their dying companies?  Is this bailout/loan just a temporary fix to a more permanent problem?  What happens, if on 03/31/2009, the automakers have spent the money fronted them, are unable to come up with a plan to satisfy the stipulations, and can not repay the loan?  Is it fair for taxpayers to bear the burden of this as well as the other bailouts that have been given and are likely yet to come? 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/11/business/11auto.html?ref=us


I won't argue that point! nm
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Not what I said. Just wondering why we continue getting
and not a single person can stop and show a bit more humanity....that's all.
I hate to argue, especially when

I know from the outset it will make no difference.  Life is too short and my time is too valuable. 


I won't be voting early, but I will be voting.  That's one for me and one for you.  No need to argue.  The votes will all be counted and we will see what happens.  


If you hate to argue
then why are you doing it?  LOL
Okay, you obviously just want to argue in circles here.
Calling someone self righteous and conservative like it's a bad thing is being judgmental and therefore hypocritical.

I'm sorry I wasted my time.
hmm...no you win....lets argue about that instead. nm
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And I suppose you would rather we continue...(sm)
to run that torture chamber in Guantanamo.  Yeah, that would be the one where they can hold supposed SUSPECTS for how long without trial?  Maybe you should rent the documentary "Taxi to the Dark Side." 
Pointless to argue....maybe but
we sat idley by while Madelyn Murray O'Hair  trampled our "pearls".
Not that I feel I need to continue.... sm
this seemingly endless and mindless banter, but rather to just satisfy your apparent thirst for blood, I went back and looked to see what I had posted that I felt the need to apologize for.  Here is the post that I made to abc that sent her off into a tizzy about it being her body and her embryo, etc. 

""And I prefer an abortion to giving up my baby for adoption. I would not be able to sleep a single night, having given my baby to strangers."  (Note:  This was a quote from abc that I was addressing.  )

But you could sleep knowing that you took your baby's life? I am not trying to criticize but simply trying to understand this line of reasoning. " (This was my answer to her quote.)

Now..... go cool off! 


Why can't I continue to discuss
You all carry on about Obama's palling around (re: believing things that simply cannot be substantiated), but you sure can't take it when someone turns around and comments on your precious heroine. How very sad for all of you who hold this vapid, undereducated, unqualified, power hungry example of hollow charm in such high esteem. Perhaps we should be discussing your judgment instead of hers.
not even gonna argue
i KNOW i have way more on you

But I would really like you to point out how i have spewed hatred in a racism form? That offends me like nothing else and I think you should apologize. You can flame me for politics or whatever else, but to call me racist is the most vile disgusting inappropriate thing to say to someone like me, you dont know my past or my present and you have no idea what that could mean to someone like me so why dont you take it upon yourself to apologize for that nasty comment about me being racist. That is shameful and hurtful.
not that i really expect people like you to care.

And on a side note, my man knows everything about me!
Well I'm not in the mood to argue but

all I know (so far) is half the cost to help homeowners and create jobs like the dems package... In fact, I believe it almost had the same things EXCEPT the crappy projects that do nothing to create a healthy economy and put people back to work, keep them in their home, allow permanent tax cuts to you and me, not just businesses, but you and me. He wanted 5% off the top for us.


We have the highest business tax in the world and that is one of the reasons  companies moved their businesses out of here. McCain did want to cut the business tax when he was running, but people didn't see how that would help. It would have kept more businesses from moving out and hopefully, get some businesses to come back. Opps, sorry. That last statement about the businesses moving back is wrong. They use slave labor to get their products out and wouldn't want to come back and pay Americans a decent wage to produce their products because they want to keep the profits for themselves.


You have your opinion and I have mine. I think McC's package would have been better.


I still don't want to spend $88 million to move the one branch of government into another building. I still don't want to spend millions on youth summer jobs (up to the age of 24 BTW). I dont' want to spend millions on renovating the government buildings.  Even though the dems are thinking more on the lines of energy efficiency for these buildings (which is a good idea), THESE ITEMS DO NOT BELONG IN A STIMULUS PACKAGE TO HELP US OR THE ECONOMY. They only help certain areas of the country, not the whole country.


 


No, I don't argue much. I discuss or
post articles I think would be interesting to people on this board. I try not to tear down the people who post, either, not like some on this board. They have their opinion, I have mine.  
No, I don't argue much. I discuss or

post articles I think would be interesting to people on this board. I try not to tear down the people who post, either, not like some on this board. They have their opinion, I have mine.  


Your idea of a reply very often isn't up for discussion. You seem to think it's the only one that matters. End of discussion.


Why do you continue to ask "where" when you have
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Obama will continue to act like he did regarding
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I will not sit and argue wtih you. Too sm
many folks just like you have tried to wipe Christianity out of this country.

Go to Washington DC, look on the many government buildings there and you will find references to God even carved into the bulidings themselves. The godless people of this country have tried to have it removed from our money, that they can do but what are they going to do with the buildings? Build new ones.

This country was founded as a Christian nation and people like you and the rest of the god-forsaking crowd are just trying to rewrite history to suit yourselves.

I believe God himself is fed up with this country and is gradually lifting his hand of protection off of this country. I feel bad for you and folks like you because you don't even know the seriousness of the things that you spout.
I will not sit and argue wtih you. Too sm
many folks just like you have tried to wipe Christianity out of this country.

Go to Washington DC, look on the many government buildings there and you will find references to God even carved into the bulidings themselves. The godless people of this country have tried to have it removed from our money, that they can do but what are they going to do with the buildings? Build new ones.

This country was founded as a Christian nation and people like you and the rest of the god-forsaking crowd are just trying to rewrite history to suit yourselves.

I believe God himself is fed up with this country and is gradually lifting his hand of protection off of this country. I feel bad for you and folks like you because you don't even know the seriousness of the things that you spout.
I won't argue the racial part. sm
I agree with that.  But you don't need to bring politics into it.  You lose all credibility and, as I said, you lessen this little girl's death by using your own agenda.  Try to focus on the tragedy and the fact that our society needs a major overhaul. 
and the personal attacks continue

Go ahead continue to talk about which you know nothing about
Go ahead, then, continue to talk about what you know nothing about other than news reports and slanted history books and we, who truly know a bit more about jewish issues and Israel will sit back and continue to smile and, of course, like I said in my previous post, there are always courses in the local synagogue that you can take.  Join a jewish discussion group either in the net or in your home town, that is if your home town even has a jew in it, and learn the truth.  Not what is being put out there by radical orthodox jews.  Those are the ones that you see fighting in Israel to stay in Gaza.  The radical orthodox jews.  Sharon, as much as I dont like him, is right in what he has decided.  It is unfortunate but it is just and right. 
She said let's debate. Instead you want to argue as usual.