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I'm not counting my chickens yet.

Posted By: Lilly on 2005-10-16
In Reply to: Hurry up Fitzgerald..Im waiting to throw a party! - gt

Not unlike the leaders of this country, those chickens might appear healthy on the surface, yet be harboring something very dangerous and deadly inside.


I don't think it takes much for any reasonable person to fill in the blanks of what really happened here.  Wilson told the truth and disagreed with Bush.  Bush doesn't like the truth and particularly doesn't like people who disagree with him.  Therefore, the messenger must be destroyed.  If that includes an undercover CIA operative and all the people she worked with it, well, that just makes the revenge sweeter.  Period.


If anyone else did it, it would be considered treason.  If Bush does it, it's merely dirty politics.


The real question now is:  IS it illegal or just dirty politics as usual in Washington?  In my book, it's certainly immoral, unethical and I especially agree with the last paragraph of the article when it refers to our democracy being hijacked on the way to war.


I would love to see these scumbags indicted, and the only person I have any faith in IS Fitzgerald.  I believe if something illegal occurred, Fitzgerald will indict.


Anyone who paid attention to these elections knows how the Bush camp works.  Look what they did to John Kerry's courageous military service, when Bush himself was too much of a coward to put his own life in danger.


GT, I hope we all can survive the next 3 years.  Between avian flu, terrorism and a president whose hobby is playing GI Joe for REAL, I'm not very hopeful.


I'm looking for a reason to smile this week.  I hope Mr. Fitzgerald provides one.  To see that honesty and accountability are still alive and well in the U.S. and that all has NOT been lost would definitely make me smile.




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Chickens

I'm not counting mine until they're hatched.  I learned in 2000 that anything can happen in an election.


I do applaud the grace and dignity you exhibited in your post, though. 


They do them just like they do chickens..(sm)
Through the miracle of steroids you can have a 6-week-old chickadee that looks and tastes like a full grown chicken.  The whole industry is kind of disgusting.  And people wonder why I have a big garden.
Don't count your chickens...
I wouldn't be so sure about an Obama victory just yet. I seem to recall that not just four months ago, everyone thought the nominee was going to be Hillary and you see how that one turned out!
Don't count your chickens...

...until they're hatched.


The timing of this whole Israeli mess is very interesting.  Don't count out martial law just yet, in case there's a "terror attack" on the USA or some other scheme going on in Washington. 


Sorry for you ......you think chickens and humans
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Don't count your chickens before they are hatched
Truth of the matter is we don't know who will win. The polls mean didly. I've said it before and I'll say it again - They don't mean anything. Even Rasmussen was interviewed and he said you cannot tell by polls who is ahead and a lot of it has to do with the media and their love affair with Obama and how they are manipulating what they are feeding you. The real poll will be on 11/4 after the election is held or the next day.

Oh, and your comments can go both ways -

What's going to happen to the rabid democrats when McCain wins?

Will their anger fade away or are we going to see riots in the streets because a black man didn't win with Farrakan leading the way?

Will they accept a McCain presidency, or are they going to remaind divided like they always have while pointing the finger that the other side won't work with them.

What's going to happen when they find out that their "lord" Obama was actually born in Kenya and there is a birth certificate to prove it, which makes him disqualified to run as president. Will his good friend (the leader of Kenya) be able to keep this silenced for long. He already threw one person in jail for getting too close - will he be able to jail everyone who wants to know the truth.

Will Franks, Dodd & others who benefitted from FMFM and threw the economy into a near depression be men and own up to their mistakes or will they sit on their hands and continue to blame the republicans.

I don't have to ask if they will undermine the progress to make themselves look better. They have already been doing that and they will continue on.

Domestic terrorists you ask? We don't have to look any further than Obama's close friends William Ayers, his good freinds in Pakistan whom he spent time over there with, and his friends from the Muslim schools he attended while growing up as a Muslim.

If I had known back then what I know now about Obama, I would have voted for Hillary. At least we know about her. It's what Obama is hiding about himself that HAS to make you wonder.

The questions still remains...
Why do so many people not care if we have a president who has ties/friends to known terrorists?
Why do so many people not care that their taxes will go up and they'll be left with less money to live on.
Why do so many people just blatantly ignore the facts about Obama, which is NOT, I repeat NOT a good direction for our country to go.
Why do so many people not care if they elect this guy our country will be turned to a socialist country. Are there really that many of you that don't have a lot so you believe that the people who have worked so hard all of their lives should just give you part of what they have worked for?
Why do so many people not care what happens to our country?
Why do so many people not care that our country will not be safe anymore?
Why do so many people not even care about 9/11 and everything we have done to keep our country safe since then. Lets just throw it all away and vote in this radical muslim. Why? Because it's PC?
Why do so many people believe him when he says he won't raise your taxes, when in fact his voting records shows that he voted to raise taxes over 50 times in the past, but now that he's running for President and telling you that he won't raise your taxes you believe him? Why?

There are too many why's and such an unsettling feeling. Sure McCain may not be my first choice, but between the two he is the better choice.

The election isn't over, and its with views like yours that I hope martial law is implimented and McCain is placed in the position. If that happens it will serve you right!
chickens and doves and cows etc....
I know what's going on.
I am a vegetarian!
Therefore!
the reason for young chickens...
is to keep costs low, so we can afford them--remember that chicken used to be very expensive. However, withdrawal times on steroids are such that chickens are not given steroids because they won't pass FDA standards. They are fed antibiotics in their water because with SO many in one chicken house, they are very vulnerable to disease, but no growth hormones or steroids. The faster maturing birds are due to selective breeding (short gestation=fast change). That is also why everything tastes like chicken. With the faster maturing young birds we eat, the meat actually has very little taste, so it is not as much that other things taste like chicken as it is that chicken does not really taste like anything. (I spent many unhappy classed in STINKY chicken houses in college). I HATE chickens! and Turkeys! but I do like to eat them.
I'm becoming more hopeful by the day. By 2012, the chickens
...a lot of voters will have lost their enchantment with the "idea" of voting for a President on the basis of his race or his superficial, glib mannerisms. In fact, if the Democrats themselves continue on the path they're starting to follow, I'm not entirely sure he'll be renominated!

The press can't change any of this, either. About 80% of the American population doesn't even watch the evening news on any of the so-called "main" networks.
Haha - I guess this poster goes to bed with the chickens
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5 days and counting

Why won't Sarah Palin answer a spontaneous question from the press?  What is this candidate hiding?  How date the elitist repub party think they can railroad a candidate by us by dressing her in a skirt.


Meet the Press, Time Magazine, Today Show, Newsweek, George Stepanoupoulous. No soft balls like the View, Barbra WaaWaa or Fox propaganda machine.  We must stand up and demand answers from the repubs.  This is OUR country - demand accountability.


 


Only 18 more days, and counting!

10 more days -- still counting..(sm)

Working on party favors.....


YES WE CAN


Again, you're counting on (sm)
trickle-down economics, and I think we're all still waiting for that trickle. 
Who's Counting Bush's Mistakes?

Who's Counting Bush's Mistakes?


By Stephen Pizzo, News for Real
Posted on February 20, 2006, Printed on March 14, 2006
http://www.alternet.org/story/32382/


Ralph Waldo Emerson said it best, The louder he spoke of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons. And no administration in U.S. history has spoken louder, or as often, of its honor.


So let us count our spoons.


Emergency Management: They completely failed to manage the first large-scale emergency since 9/11. Despite all their big talk and hundreds of billions of dollars spent on homeland security over the past four years, this administration proved itself stunningly incompetent when faced with an actual emergency. (Katrina Relief Funds Squandered)


Fiscal Management: America is broke. No wait, we're worse than broke. In less than five years these borrow and spend-thrifts have nearly doubled our national debt, to a stunning $8.2 trillion. These are not your father's Republicans who treated public dollars as though they were an endangered species. These Republicans waste money in ways and in quantities that make those old tax and spend liberals of yore look like tight-fisted Scots.


This administration is so incompetent that you can just throw a dart at the front page of your morning paper and whatever story of importance it hits will prove my point.


Katrina relief: Eleven thousand spanking new mobile homes sinking into the Arkansas mud. Seems no one in the administration knew there were federal and state laws prohibiting trailers in flood zones. Oops. That little mistake cost you $850 million -- and counting.


Medicare Drug Program: This $50 billion white elephant debuted by trampling many of those it was supposed to save. The mess forced states to step in and try to save its own citizens from being killed by the administration's poorly planned and executed attempt to privatize huge hunks of the federal health safety net.


Afghanistan: Good managers know that in order to pocket the gains of a project, you have to finish it. This administration started out fine in Afghanistan. They had the Taliban and al Queda on the run and Osama bin Laden trapped in a box canyon. Then they were distracted by a nearby shiney object -- Iraq. We are now $75 billion out of pocket in Afghanistan and its sitting president still rules only within the confines of the nation's capital. Tribal warlords, the growing remnants of the Taliban and al Qaeda call the shots in the rest of the county.


Iraq: This ill-begotten war was supposed to only cost us $65 billion. It has now cost us over $300 billion and continues to suck $6 billion a month out of our children's futures. Meanwhile the three warring tribes Bush liberated are using our money and soldiers' lives to partition the country. The Shiites and Kurds are carving out the prime cuts while treating the once-dominant Sunnis the same way the Israelis treat the Palestinians, forcing them onto Iraq's version of Death Valley. Meanwhile Iran is increasingly calling the shots in the Shiite region as mullahs loyal to Iran take charge. (More)


Iran: The administration not only jinxed its Afghanistan operations by attacking Iraq, but also provided Iran both the rationale for and time to move toward nuclear weapons. The Bush administration's neocons' threats to attack Syria next only provided more support for religious conservatives within Iran who argued U.S. intentions in the Middle East were clear, and that only the deterrent that comes with nuclear weapons could protect them.


North Korea: Ditto. Also add to all the above the example North Korea set for Iran. Clearly once a country possesses nukes, the U.S. drops the veiled threats and wants to talk.


Social Programs: It's easier to get affordable -- even free -- American-style medical care, paid for with American dollars, if you are injured in Iraq, Afghanistan or are victims of a Pakistani earthquake, than if you live and pay taxes in the good old U.S.A. Nearly 50 million Americans can't afford medical insurance. Nevertheless the administration has proposed a budget that will cut $40 billion from domestic social programs, including health care for the working poor. The administration is quick to say that those services will be replaced by its faith-based programs. Not so fast...


Despite the Bush administration's rhetorical support for religious charities, the amount of direct federal grants to faith-based organizations declined from 2002 to 2004, according to a major new study released yesterday....The study released yesterday is confirmation of the suspicion I've had all along, that what the faith-based initiative is really all about is de-funding social programs and dumping responsibility for the poor on the charitable sector, said Kay Guinane, director of the nonprofit advocacy program at OMB Watch.. (More)


The Military: Overused and over-deployed.


Former Defense Secretary William Perry and former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright warned in a 15-page report that the Army and Marine Corps cannot sustain the current operational tempo without doing real damage to their forces. ... Speaking at a news conference to release the study, Albright said she is very troubled the military will not be able to meet demands abroad. Perry warned that the strain, if not relieved, can have highly corrosive and long-term effects on the military. (More)


With military budgets gutted by the spiraling costs of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, the administration has requested funding for fewer National Guard troops in fiscal 2007 -- 17,000 fewer. Which boggles the sane mind since, if it weren't for reserve/National Guard, the administration would not have had enough troops to rotate forces in and out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Nearly 40 percent of the troops sent to those two countries were from the reserve and National Guard.


The Environment: Here's a little pop quiz: What happens if all the coral in the world's oceans dies? Answer: Coral is the first rung on the food-chain ladder; so when it goes, everything else in the ocean dies. And if the oceans die, we die.


The coral in the world's oceans are dying (called bleaching) at an alarming and accelerating rate. Global warming is the culprit. Nevertheless, this administration continues as the world's leading global warming denier. Why? Because they seem to feel it's more cost effective to be dead than to force reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. How stupid is that? And time is running out.


Trade: We are approaching a $1 trillion annual trade deficit, most of it with Asia, $220 billion with just China -- just last year.


Energy: Record high energy prices. Record energy company profits. Dick Cheney's energy task force meetings remain secret. Need I say more?


Consumers: Americans finally did it last year -- they achieved a negative savings rate. (Folks in China save 10 percent, for contrast.) If the government can spend more than it makes and just say charge it when it runs out, so can we. The average American now owes $9,000 to credit card companies. Imagine that.


Human Rights: America now runs secret prisons and a secret judicial system that would give Kafka fits. And the U.S. has joined the list of nations that tortures prisioners of war. (Shut up George! We have pictures!)


I could go on for another 1,000 words listing the stunning incompetence of the Bush administration and its GOP sycophants in Congress. But what's the use? No seems to give a fig. The sun continues to shine in this fool's paradise. House starts were up in January. The stock market is finally back over 11,000.


But don't bother George W. Bush with any of this. While seldom right, he is never in doubt. Doubt is Bush's enemy. Worry? How can he worry when he has no doubts?


Me? Well, I worry about all the above, all the time. But in particular, I worry about coral.


Stephen Pizzo is the author of numerous books, including Inside Job: The Looting of America's Savings and Loans, which was nominated for a Pulitzer.


View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/story/32382/


I guess your not counting the states he won either
On the news today it showed popular vote from all the states that voted. He has over 300 more votes than her for the popular vote. She is saying she has the popular vote but she is not counting the states he won in. Funny math to me. Oh but I guess she should be nominated as one of her supporters said because she did win Puerto Rico today.
Only 1494 days to go and counting
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You must be using the finger-counting method,
try using both hands and all your toes. Your figures need to be multiplied by a factor of 2, one way or the other.
I'm even counting the nano-seconds!
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You know, actually, if you continue counting this way, you'll miss it...because...sm
Because it'll be the night of January 20th, and you'll say one more day....and you missed it.

Just saying....

TWO - tomorrow we'll work on counting to THREE.
And JTBB "leans left" like Hitler "disliked Jews."
Counting by hand of 100 million votes would be a task...sm
Not that it is an unworthy one, I just doubt it will be done.

One idea was that the computer gives the voter a reciept of their selection and then the reciept, once verified by the voter, is deposited into the machine.

Brainstorming, I suggest they take it one step further and have a real time tally for each candidate per voting center. That way the voters can verify that their vote was casted, counted, and affected the number. The last voters, along with the volunteers could verify the final numbers for the districts.
The voting machines is a must to make voters confident their votes are counting...sm
But the Democrat party needs to delineate what separates them from the republican party as terms of what direction they will take the country. That is definitely uncertain. The chances of them getting their voters out to the polls will be better, I think.
Did anyone count Obama's blinks or are democrats the only superficial ones counting blinks? nm
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