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You must be using the finger-counting method,

Posted By: In that case, on 2009-01-09
In Reply to: Nope, 4 years 11 days (1471 days or 1383 til 11/4/2012) - still counting too

try using both hands and all your toes. Your figures need to be multiplied by a factor of 2, one way or the other.


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You put your finger on it, chele.
They worry far more about their party affiliation than they do the taxpayers. We see where they have placed their loyalties, what they have, that is.
I think that's a bit one-sided. Can't put my finger on it right
now 'cause it's late (for me), but I will read it again in the morning and do a little research myself..
May we pick which finger??
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I'm not counting my chickens yet.

Not unlike the leaders of this country, those chickens might appear healthy on the surface, yet be harboring something very dangerous and deadly inside.


I don't think it takes much for any reasonable person to fill in the blanks of what really happened here.  Wilson told the truth and disagreed with Bush.  Bush doesn't like the truth and particularly doesn't like people who disagree with him.  Therefore, the messenger must be destroyed.  If that includes an undercover CIA operative and all the people she worked with it, well, that just makes the revenge sweeter.  Period.


If anyone else did it, it would be considered treason.  If Bush does it, it's merely dirty politics.


The real question now is:  IS it illegal or just dirty politics as usual in Washington?  In my book, it's certainly immoral, unethical and I especially agree with the last paragraph of the article when it refers to our democracy being hijacked on the way to war.


I would love to see these scumbags indicted, and the only person I have any faith in IS Fitzgerald.  I believe if something illegal occurred, Fitzgerald will indict.


Anyone who paid attention to these elections knows how the Bush camp works.  Look what they did to John Kerry's courageous military service, when Bush himself was too much of a coward to put his own life in danger.


GT, I hope we all can survive the next 3 years.  Between avian flu, terrorism and a president whose hobby is playing GI Joe for REAL, I'm not very hopeful.


I'm looking for a reason to smile this week.  I hope Mr. Fitzgerald provides one.  To see that honesty and accountability are still alive and well in the U.S. and that all has NOT been lost would definitely make me smile.


5 days and counting

Why won't Sarah Palin answer a spontaneous question from the press?  What is this candidate hiding?  How date the elitist repub party think they can railroad a candidate by us by dressing her in a skirt.


Meet the Press, Time Magazine, Today Show, Newsweek, George Stepanoupoulous. No soft balls like the View, Barbra WaaWaa or Fox propaganda machine.  We must stand up and demand answers from the repubs.  This is OUR country - demand accountability.


 


Only 18 more days, and counting!

10 more days -- still counting..(sm)

Working on party favors.....


YES WE CAN


Again, you're counting on (sm)
trickle-down economics, and I think we're all still waiting for that trickle. 
No effort required. Just one finger.
(And that would be the middle one, of course.)
Really? I don't recall seeing his pinky finger.
He's only showed us his middle one.
Otherwise known as the 'fickle finger of fate'...

Then the first finger goes to Bill Clinton
If you want to start the pointing that is.
Who's Counting Bush's Mistakes?

Who's Counting Bush's Mistakes?


By Stephen Pizzo, News for Real
Posted on February 20, 2006, Printed on March 14, 2006
http://www.alternet.org/story/32382/


Ralph Waldo Emerson said it best, The louder he spoke of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons. And no administration in U.S. history has spoken louder, or as often, of its honor.


So let us count our spoons.


Emergency Management: They completely failed to manage the first large-scale emergency since 9/11. Despite all their big talk and hundreds of billions of dollars spent on homeland security over the past four years, this administration proved itself stunningly incompetent when faced with an actual emergency. (Katrina Relief Funds Squandered)


Fiscal Management: America is broke. No wait, we're worse than broke. In less than five years these borrow and spend-thrifts have nearly doubled our national debt, to a stunning $8.2 trillion. These are not your father's Republicans who treated public dollars as though they were an endangered species. These Republicans waste money in ways and in quantities that make those old tax and spend liberals of yore look like tight-fisted Scots.


This administration is so incompetent that you can just throw a dart at the front page of your morning paper and whatever story of importance it hits will prove my point.


Katrina relief: Eleven thousand spanking new mobile homes sinking into the Arkansas mud. Seems no one in the administration knew there were federal and state laws prohibiting trailers in flood zones. Oops. That little mistake cost you $850 million -- and counting.


Medicare Drug Program: This $50 billion white elephant debuted by trampling many of those it was supposed to save. The mess forced states to step in and try to save its own citizens from being killed by the administration's poorly planned and executed attempt to privatize huge hunks of the federal health safety net.


Afghanistan: Good managers know that in order to pocket the gains of a project, you have to finish it. This administration started out fine in Afghanistan. They had the Taliban and al Queda on the run and Osama bin Laden trapped in a box canyon. Then they were distracted by a nearby shiney object -- Iraq. We are now $75 billion out of pocket in Afghanistan and its sitting president still rules only within the confines of the nation's capital. Tribal warlords, the growing remnants of the Taliban and al Qaeda call the shots in the rest of the county.


Iraq: This ill-begotten war was supposed to only cost us $65 billion. It has now cost us over $300 billion and continues to suck $6 billion a month out of our children's futures. Meanwhile the three warring tribes Bush liberated are using our money and soldiers' lives to partition the country. The Shiites and Kurds are carving out the prime cuts while treating the once-dominant Sunnis the same way the Israelis treat the Palestinians, forcing them onto Iraq's version of Death Valley. Meanwhile Iran is increasingly calling the shots in the Shiite region as mullahs loyal to Iran take charge. (More)


Iran: The administration not only jinxed its Afghanistan operations by attacking Iraq, but also provided Iran both the rationale for and time to move toward nuclear weapons. The Bush administration's neocons' threats to attack Syria next only provided more support for religious conservatives within Iran who argued U.S. intentions in the Middle East were clear, and that only the deterrent that comes with nuclear weapons could protect them.


North Korea: Ditto. Also add to all the above the example North Korea set for Iran. Clearly once a country possesses nukes, the U.S. drops the veiled threats and wants to talk.


Social Programs: It's easier to get affordable -- even free -- American-style medical care, paid for with American dollars, if you are injured in Iraq, Afghanistan or are victims of a Pakistani earthquake, than if you live and pay taxes in the good old U.S.A. Nearly 50 million Americans can't afford medical insurance. Nevertheless the administration has proposed a budget that will cut $40 billion from domestic social programs, including health care for the working poor. The administration is quick to say that those services will be replaced by its faith-based programs. Not so fast...


Despite the Bush administration's rhetorical support for religious charities, the amount of direct federal grants to faith-based organizations declined from 2002 to 2004, according to a major new study released yesterday....The study released yesterday is confirmation of the suspicion I've had all along, that what the faith-based initiative is really all about is de-funding social programs and dumping responsibility for the poor on the charitable sector, said Kay Guinane, director of the nonprofit advocacy program at OMB Watch.. (More)


The Military: Overused and over-deployed.


Former Defense Secretary William Perry and former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright warned in a 15-page report that the Army and Marine Corps cannot sustain the current operational tempo without doing real damage to their forces. ... Speaking at a news conference to release the study, Albright said she is very troubled the military will not be able to meet demands abroad. Perry warned that the strain, if not relieved, can have highly corrosive and long-term effects on the military. (More)


With military budgets gutted by the spiraling costs of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, the administration has requested funding for fewer National Guard troops in fiscal 2007 -- 17,000 fewer. Which boggles the sane mind since, if it weren't for reserve/National Guard, the administration would not have had enough troops to rotate forces in and out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Nearly 40 percent of the troops sent to those two countries were from the reserve and National Guard.


The Environment: Here's a little pop quiz: What happens if all the coral in the world's oceans dies? Answer: Coral is the first rung on the food-chain ladder; so when it goes, everything else in the ocean dies. And if the oceans die, we die.


The coral in the world's oceans are dying (called bleaching) at an alarming and accelerating rate. Global warming is the culprit. Nevertheless, this administration continues as the world's leading global warming denier. Why? Because they seem to feel it's more cost effective to be dead than to force reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. How stupid is that? And time is running out.


Trade: We are approaching a $1 trillion annual trade deficit, most of it with Asia, $220 billion with just China -- just last year.


Energy: Record high energy prices. Record energy company profits. Dick Cheney's energy task force meetings remain secret. Need I say more?


Consumers: Americans finally did it last year -- they achieved a negative savings rate. (Folks in China save 10 percent, for contrast.) If the government can spend more than it makes and just say charge it when it runs out, so can we. The average American now owes $9,000 to credit card companies. Imagine that.


Human Rights: America now runs secret prisons and a secret judicial system that would give Kafka fits. And the U.S. has joined the list of nations that tortures prisioners of war. (Shut up George! We have pictures!)


I could go on for another 1,000 words listing the stunning incompetence of the Bush administration and its GOP sycophants in Congress. But what's the use? No seems to give a fig. The sun continues to shine in this fool's paradise. House starts were up in January. The stock market is finally back over 11,000.


But don't bother George W. Bush with any of this. While seldom right, he is never in doubt. Doubt is Bush's enemy. Worry? How can he worry when he has no doubts?


Me? Well, I worry about all the above, all the time. But in particular, I worry about coral.


Stephen Pizzo is the author of numerous books, including Inside Job: The Looting of America's Savings and Loans, which was nominated for a Pulitzer.


View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/story/32382/


I guess your not counting the states he won either
On the news today it showed popular vote from all the states that voted. He has over 300 more votes than her for the popular vote. She is saying she has the popular vote but she is not counting the states he won in. Funny math to me. Oh but I guess she should be nominated as one of her supporters said because she did win Puerto Rico today.
Only 1494 days to go and counting
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I'm even counting the nano-seconds!
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Resorting to the 2nd grader finger-pointing and
Don't you recognize when you have run out of anything pertinent to say?
Bush has more character in his pinky finger than
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With all the juvenile name calling and finger pointing
exactly who introduced the use of the word "idiots" into the post. BTW, for you first, second and third responder(s), posting the same thing 2 or 3 times makes for a pathetic majoriy of one. Read my lips. PA-THE-TIC.
Finger sandwiches? Gee, I dunno...whose fingers were they? :) sm
The other day a German company came out with "Obama Fingers" - frozen strips of fried chicken. You know, snacky type dealie-bobs.

Unfortunately for this company, they didn't realize that associating fried chicken with a black person isn't considered "PC" and they had to withdraw them from the market. I guess we prolly won't be seeing Obama Watermeloncicles any time soon either. Darn! I was looking forward to that.

Hoo-boy, it's a weird, weird world, ain't it? What would we do without the Stereotype Police?
You know, actually, if you continue counting this way, you'll miss it...because...sm
Because it'll be the night of January 20th, and you'll say one more day....and you missed it.

Just saying....

TWO - tomorrow we'll work on counting to THREE.
And JTBB "leans left" like Hitler "disliked Jews."
Counting by hand of 100 million votes would be a task...sm
Not that it is an unworthy one, I just doubt it will be done.

One idea was that the computer gives the voter a reciept of their selection and then the reciept, once verified by the voter, is deposited into the machine.

Brainstorming, I suggest they take it one step further and have a real time tally for each candidate per voting center. That way the voters can verify that their vote was casted, counted, and affected the number. The last voters, along with the volunteers could verify the final numbers for the districts.
name calling and finger pointing, again with no real facts but your opinion. sm
I expect no less from Palin haters
A racial post shooting the finger. Must be a conservative thing. Point this out.
I just read the thread and don't know what the heck you guys are talking about.

Sounds like you are all just trying to be disagreeable, no wait that's why you continue to post on the LIBERAL board. I see, that's the point. Excuse me.
The voting machines is a must to make voters confident their votes are counting...sm
But the Democrat party needs to delineate what separates them from the republican party as terms of what direction they will take the country. That is definitely uncertain. The chances of them getting their voters out to the polls will be better, I think.
Like I said....I am all for fixing it. But the method of fixing it...
is another issue. I am not sure the 7 billion is the best way; that is all I am saying.
Did anyone count Obama's blinks or are democrats the only superficial ones counting blinks? nm
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