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I've felt a few of those flames...LOL..nm

Posted By: Just the big bad on 2009-01-14
In Reply to: Awwww shucks............ sm - m




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I've always felt like a misfit
What is generation x? I'll have to look it up. We always called it generation excrement. HA HA HA - ooh and now I find I'm one of them. Too funny.
The flames have begun. They were started by you.

All you've done since you've come here is flame and insult.  If you'd treat people with some respect and dignity, you'd be surprised at how quickly it would come back at you.  Instead, you're treated the way you treat others.  How does it feel?


I cited examples of true things that happened.  Unlike you, I didn't bash or negatively judge one single poster on this board. 


Yes, I call them CONS, as in NEOCONS.  I don't know how anyone who believes they are a Republican can worship someone as they do Bush who is the complete antithesis of anything REPUBLICAN.


Since you continue to show your contempt for the monitor and the monitor's rules, how about you leave me alone on this board, and I'll return the favor?


Nah, you aren't capable of doing that, are you?  Well, keep flaming away.  I'll take the higher road which you've never traveled and ignore you.


One more thing:  Every single thing I posted is the truth.  Your claim that it's hysteria without any facts to back it up merely proves the negative value you contribute to this board.


If you're referring to my health situation as hysteria, then until you've walked in my shoes and know what I've been through in the last month healthwise, you have no basis or right to claim that anything I said is hysteria.  Having no compassion for someone who's very ill is clearly a CON point of view, so dressing yourself up in a costume representing another political party isn't fooling anyone.  You may be a little higher up on the food chain than I am, maybe insulated with a husband who provides you with health insurance and additional income, but America has become a hungry shark where only the strongest survive, the weakest are disposable, and the same thing could happen to you. 


No flames. I thought it was a great article. nm
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I felt that way too,
which was why I registered as a Libertarian. Socially progressive & fiscally conservative describes me well, or as I like to say (tongue in cheek but not entirely), Do whatever you like, just don't make me pay for it.

But I went to the Libertarian website, not that a Libertarian has a real chance of competing in any election, but what the hay. That guy Barr seemed way too extreme for me, I couldn't relate at all. In the end I might change my affiliation if it feels really important to vote for someone in a primary, but it works better for me to just find the individual with the greatest amount of overlap with my beliefs & go with it. In this case it's Obama. & I have to say, I'm way more scared of Palin than I am of McCain. I find her stupidity & vulgarity absolutely terrifying. So I guess you could say I voted for Vice President this time around. I don't try to vote along party lines any more.
Maybe the DNC felt they, like anyone else, could
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I almost felt sorry for him
when I quit laughing.
I felt the same way at first....
I am generally a Republican, but everyone knew from the start, this would be the year for a Democrat. I thought too a change would be good. And in the beginning, I was impressed with Obama. But too soon, that impression soured. He contradicted himself too often and changed his message to suit the audience until the deceit became obvious. His support, judging by the poll numbers was starting to wane as people started to realize what he was, or at least that we had no idea who he really was.

This year should have been a shoo-in for a Democrat. But it wasn't. And not because he was black since as many people voted FOR him for that reason as against him, but because the Democratic candidate was such a poor choice.

That was exactly how I felt, too, especially
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Now you know how WE felt for
You learn to suck it up. It didn't matter that we didn't want Bush taking our country into a trumped up war, didn't want his stimulus package which had absolutely NO oversight or accountability. Bush never cared what the American people wanted, yet he got his way.

You will just have to do what we did for 8 years. Take it or move out of the country. Those are basically your only 2 choices.
I meant I felt like it was an act....
I believe it was theatrics. The Hollywood reference was meant to say they would be proud of the acting job...nothing to do with all of Hollywood being amoral, though I believe a good portion of it is. But that could be said for other areas as well. I am also aware of staunch conservatives in Hollywood and I think God for them.
I felt dumb because
I had to look up officiousness. But then I found this:
"Officiousness is used about 3 times out of a sample of 100 million words spoken or written in English" and then I did not feel so dumb. LOL

It is perfect though.
It did not suggest to you that she felt...
"separation to avoid assimilation" was a good thing? That is segregation, and when practiced by whites against blacks, was viewed as racist. And it does not support what her husband said he is about: "There is no black america, there is no white america, there is only america." That thesis is the polar opposite of that line of thought...and brings to mind her comment about "we have a hole in our soul" talking about America.

Sorry...I believe she has an agenda shared by her husband and they want the white house as a bully pulpit to further their personal agenda. Still, that is only a secondary concern. My first concern is he is a far left radical socialist and wants this country to go the way of Cuba (only he thinks it will work here. Didn't in Cuba, didn't in Venezuela...hasn't anywhere it has been tried). I strongly disagree and will not vote for someone who believes that and fully intends to put it into practice.
I have felt in the past...
that I was being attacked for saying something that was never really meant to be offensive. I feel that we should all be able to act like adults and refrain from personally attacking anyone. I just thought that the response was unnecessarily nasty. I hope you have a great evening! I hope the other person does, as well.
I felt his pain.
I really expected him to endorse McCain.  My respect for him just grew because he had the guts to stand up against his own party for what he considers the good of the country.  I really feel there was more to his resignation from the Bush cabinet than meets the eye AND I cannot abide Condalesa (sp?) Rice!!!!!
That's how I felt when I saw the helicopter sm
The announcer was saying this is usually the most moving moment when the departing president blah blah and I was thinking GET IT OUT OF HERE ALREADY!!!!!

Maybe you should ask Dixie Dew what it felt like to be accused by you

of being an alcoholic (and there wasn't even a STORY written about her).  You do this kind of thing to posters on this board on a daily basis.  And you're doing it again to GT.  She has said point blank that she DOESN'T wish that on him, but that doesn't coincide with your lying attack against her so once again the truth doesn't count.


That's how I felt about her until I read about her history
Read about her on Wikipedia. I think that site is not for or against someone they just state what a person has done. I was a very very hard "Obama all the way supporter and defend him to the end". I'm not a republican in any way nor am I a democrat. I agree with some issues and disagree with others but that's on both sides.

This is what I was thinking and asking myself these questions. There is no doubt I cannot stand McCain. I think he is one of the worst choices ever and just a rotten person. Whether people want to believe it or not he is Bush continued.

However...I didn't know who she was so I read about her and what she stands for. She is not the usual "republican". She has worked for people and she does'nt (and won't) put up with any BS. She has done a lot for the state of Alaska and the people there. I read (don't know exact words to use) but I heard she gave every Alaska citizen I think it was $1200 and she took it out of the profits of the oil companies. She was a city council member for 4 years, then a mayor for 6 years, Chairperson for the Alaska Oil & Gas Conservation Commission for a year, and Governor of Alaska for 2 years. I also went to Wikipedia to read about Obama because I wanted to prove all those who say he doesn't have experience wrong. What I found is he was a member of the Illinos Senate for 7 years and has been a senator from Illinois for 3 years.

So she has 11 years experience and he has 10. Pretty close. One can argue that one job over the other gives you more experience (or not). To me it's not how many years each has been doing their job, it's been what have they accomplished doing their job.

No, Palin doesn't have any "Washington DC" experience but that is exactly what I like about her. I also like that she is pro-environment. She grew up in a family like mine (not wealthy) and like Barack she has worked for what she has.

She is really worth the time researching her. At first I was shocked on the pick, but I had to put the anger aside and look at her from a non-committed approach.

McCain - yes I can't stand him one iota. I can't trust him as far as I can throw him. I think he is as slimy as all the other Bush, Cheney, Rove and all the other "bad" republicans in DC. I cringe thinking about what it would be like if he wins. It literally makes me nautious. But if it does happen I have a mute button and don't have to listen to him or watch him. But Sarah Palin I like her a lot. I think she is a woman of principal and I do believe whe will be able to step in as president.

Also you cannot argue that she has no experience because neither did Bill Clinton and everyone says he was a good president (even thought I beg to differ).

Not saying I don't like Barack. I think he's okay. I do like Biden. I think he's a man of principal and a wealth of knowledge. But right now I think what Washington needs is someone who is not "Washington". This country needs a fresh face and someone who is not afraid to stand up for what is right for Americans and I believe she will. I'm tired of being "mowed over" by our government. Tired of big business and CEOs and oil companies becoming wealthier while the rest of us continue to become poorer.

Also who do you think was out meeting with "the people" who really run our country. Barack and Hillary. This is the group (name unmentioned) that hold secret meetings every year where no reporter is allowed near the facility and they have posted guards outside. Nobody is allowed in unless your in the group (which Obama and Hillary are and they tried to hide it) and they sit around and determine the fate of what will happen. You should ask yourself why didn't they want Americans to know they were at this meeting. If Obama gets in sure his ideas are great and inspiring, but he is still being controlled by others. Palin is not and not afraid to say "no".

Here's another thing I read about her. Not only are Pilosi and other democrats worried, but the best thing is Hillary has seen her dreams of ever becoming "First Woman President" go down the drain - which I am utterly and ecstatically thrilled about, but what is even better that helped cinch it for me. Two things... first JM was "told" to pick her. This was not his choice no matter what you want to believe. He was getting ready to announce Lieberman was his running mate, but he was told she was going to be the VP choice. That right there tells me that JM will not be making any serious decisions. The people who run him make the decisions and tell him what he will do. That is very important to me because I don't trust his decisions. But second and this is equally as important... Bush and Cheney are not happy she was picked. Hence we will finally have someone in there who is not a Neocon.

All I say is its going to be a very interesting rest of the campaign. I'm really interested to hear all the debates. I can't tell you whether I have a strong feeling that one will win over the other, so it will be interesting.
I felt this way about Republicans under Bush. sm
I am a small government conservative and liberty lover and it knocked me out of that paradigm. Other than Ron Paul, I will not be voting for anymore Republicans or Democrats. The whole system has been taken over by socialists, Dem and Republican. They are going to put our children, grandchildren, and generations after us in debt.

The most insane piece of pork in that bill is Nancy Pelosi's 35 million dollar mouse.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/12/earmark-less-bill-gives-pelosis-mouse-cookie/
Well, I have never felt more unsafe in my country
nm
Wonder how many who worked at the WTC felt safe on 9/10/01?
I'd bet about 100%. Doesn't mean much, does it? In fact, the majority are often wrong when it comes to things like this.
Israel felt pulling out of Gaza was okay. sm
Oh, okay, that explains all those wailing Jews being forcefully removed from their homes of 30 plus years.  Glad you cleared that up.  Your statement is ridiculous.  But then, they all are.  Gosh, your lying comment is getting really old.   Does anyone else think so?
I didn't know that Lurker told you how she felt.

In that case, I apologize.


And regarding looking in my own back yard, with all due respect to you and the board and your rules, I thought this WAS my back yard.  Out of respect for you and your rules, I have not posted on the Conservative Board.


All I'm asking is that, unlike me, THEY respect your rules.


Only if I felt that all available options had been considered and rejected...sm
How long has the US had nuclear weapons? More than 60 years. Iran, if they have any capability, it is very limited. Any serious threat or attack by them would only result in their ultimate annihilation. However extremist they may be, they know that.
Dems have already felt that way for the past 8 years...
Get over youselves. It's not fatal.
Not honoring her son by wanting answers, and speaking what she knows he felt.sm
He joined the army in 2002 before the Iraqi war began, so it's plenty possible he didn't agree with the Iraqi war.

No logical thinking person would have thought that Bush would focus his attention after 9-11 on Iraq.
Can't chew gum. Would've if I could've.

Even got hypnotized. Supposedly guaranteed to quit. Lasted 5 hours. Thank heavens I never smoked anything stronger.


Something I've got to say

I left this board a while back for a period of time due to the harassing emails I was getting from the former owner of this site.  It finally stopped when I told her that in the 10 years I had had email service I had never received such harassing or threatening emails and come to think of it, prior to her emails to me I had never received ANY harassing or threatening emails.  I told her if they didn't stop that I would find the proper resources to report her conduct.  She was angry because myself and two other posters were emailing to each other upset about the rampant deletion of liberal posts.  Apparently when we used the initial MTstars email form she was reading them.  In the course of her emailing me she also told one very obvious and easily discovered lie.  The whole thing was creepy.


Just wanted to get that off my chest. 


Yes, I certainly would. I've seen a lot of sm
so-called religious people do some very non-religious things.  Remember, an atheist does not believe in Satan or worship the devil either, it just means that they do not believe in God, any God.  Also, they may perhaps just not believe in organized religion.
You really believe that? Hey, I've got a really - sm
cool-looking, orange-colored bridge in San Francisco I'll sell ya really CHEAP. It's a little old and rusty, but polish it up a little, and you could probably resell it on ebay and make yourself a tidy profit. And profit's what you guys are all about, right?
Well, I've had it. sm

The hate that flies on this board is absolutely unbearable. I came to this board to compare issues of both parties and what do I see? A few people trying to give facts and get bombarded with HATE. I feel sorry for them and so CHILDISH.


What is worse is that some posters are falling into the trap by answering with just as hateful messages.


I am going happily on my way to find another place to compare issues and it WON'T BE WITH TRASH MEDIA as some are trying to force down my throat.


My mind has probably been made up for this election and I certainly won't be voting for Obama since I've seen some posters spew their hate against the republicans, although I do like Biden.


It's a shame.


That's what I've been trying to do --

gain information.  It's very difficult to get accurate information without all the slams.  Any suggestions on good websites to review these topics of interest and what each candidate's stand is on each?  I've started watching CNN.  I have to admit, I was really a Hillary supporter and now that Obama's on the ticket instead, I just don't know which evil is worse.  I thank you for your input and I will continue to delve into this mess until I can come up with my own conclusion.  I'm just trying to gain information from all angles, not relying on just 1 opinion.  I asked the question below of everyone, but no one responded. 


Does no one know the answer?  Is it ridiculous of me to think that the resolution to this crisis should not dig into my pockets?  I personally feel that the people who got those bonuses should be made to give them back, that they should be paying fines to offset this mess since they were the ones cooking the books for the bonuses. 


Yes, and that is exactly what I've been saying
one is no better than the other.
that's the best you've got?

Old story, and not an impressive one. I don't like hearing any story like that, ever.  It's no better than Clinton, but wasn't it the Dems who said that personal "affairs" were just about sex and meant nothing?  We don't know if Biden cheated or not, do we?  I don't know, but I hope not.


The Obama-Ayers-Wright-Pfleger (and on and on) affairs are far more detrimental to this country, so wake up and smell the coffee.


Can't say as I've ever used that one.
I guess she could have used terminology from Scooby Doo episodes.  Jinkies, Mr. Biden.  LOL.
That's because that's all you know....they've been
call it racism. Why do you think Obama will get the majority black votes? Because they think for themselves? Please... I have a black neighbor who says too many blacks have been led around by the nose by people like Jesse Jackson, AL Sharpon, and now says this Judas Barry Obama is showing up. She is not so easily fooled but she feels like her race has been sold down the river by this man. Instead of encouraging them, he wants to give them more handouts and keep them down, so they can continue to feel "entitled" becaues of their color.

Too bad so many others are.
LOL Now you've really done it!!!
Added everything I love.  I grew up on this chow and swore when I was "growed up" I would never eat it again.  Guess what?  I'll take that stuff over steak any day of the week.  Now I gotta make a Sweet 'tater pie!!!!  Didn't get anything to eat, we were planning for cooking for the re-enactment group that will be doing their re-enactment here the first weekend in Dec. 
Is that all you've got?
I read the board, I read the blogs, I watch TV, I listen to my relatives. So yes, I think that gives me a good idea.
Yes, he has. Where've you been?
Do you think the Dems would've let him run if he could be disqualified? Do you think McCain wouldn't have made it front and center if his high-paid dirt-diggers could've found ANYTHING? Just because you wish it to be true doesn't make it true.
Like i've said before
Anyone who didn't have their heads in the clouds, drinking the kool-aid, out of fear, or just flat out ignorant could have seen him for what he really was loooong before now. Whites have done what is right, but make no mistake, I owe no one anything and never did.

There are many racists who will take this opportunity to exploit everything.......sadly enough Obama has gotten right in line with them. When you start using MY taxes to pay for "projects" and you say what color the people have to be that work on those projects, there is a word for that.

Just keep tuned.....his true colors are there
I probably would. I've been there and like it.
Trade houses? LOL
sm....You've go to know that....
You've got to know that I have truly BEEN THERE, DONE THAT, or I would be keeping my mouth/fingers shut/quiet - lol!  On my 18th birthday, I moved out of home.  I have a military dad (marine) and no longer wanted to live a military-style household.....so I left.  I did not have a place to go, so stayed with my cousins for a bit.  I ended up moving into a duplex with a friend of my cousin's husband - I did not even know the guy.  We split rent on this duplex and worked opposite shifts...so it was like each of us having our own place.  I was really "full of myself" because I was working FT with my own place to stay....so I went a little crazy on the "partying," and ended up pregnant myself, just a few months after leaving home.  I WAS ON BIRTH CONROL PILLS, but antibiotics I was on at the time had contradicted the efficacy of my BCPs.  Shortly after suspecting (but without confirmation) I was pregnant, my roomate and I had a disagreement and he threw me out!  I was then homeless and most likely pregnant.  I went to the Health Department and got a free pregnancy test, and my hypothesis was confirmed.  So....I was HOMELESS and PREGNANT and had been on BIRTH CONTROL pills.  I could have gotten a FREE ABORTION on your TAX PAYER DOLLARS but, instead, I got a second job, applied for food stamps, found a cheap apartment in a bad part of town, and had my baby.  I then worked my way up to bigger and better things, but I did not take the EASY WAY OUT and ABORT/KILL my baby.  People are soooo lazy!!!  The easy way - or no way at all.....is how most people look at life these days.  Our forefathers worked the earth to provide food....but everyone today wants that quick burger or veggie fix - no time to waste.  WHEN I WAS ON BCP'S, I STILL COULD HAVE USED A SECONDARY FORM OF PROTECTION!!!  There is not a single person in this forum that was not given a WARNING about the RISK OF PREGNANCY WHILE ON BIRTH CONTROL PILLS when you got your prescription.  Sorry.....but everyone's "sob stories" over trying to JUSTIFY ABORTION are truly PATHETIC.  I am sorry for your daughter, but she apparently overcame, and now you have a BEAUTIFUL and WONDERFUL grandchild that may one day grow up to be PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!  Why would anyone want to ABORT something like that?  (P.S.  I had a very hard time with my second pregnancy also, and raised two children WITHOUT CHILD SUPPORT, but I will not go into that story at this time.  I have been "advised" by others to have abortions, but chose to preserve my morality and continue to regard life as PRECIOUS.  Life is not a BED OF ROSES.)
I'm m......... I've always been m...... sm
and I'll always be m. I don't mind getting slammed for my beliefs...I'm kind of used to it. LOL
Thank you!!! - that's what I've been trying to say
Some people have no clue though. They think if Obama is doing it, it's okay. They don't care about right or wrong. I'm truly disgusted that our tax money is going to fund their parties for their own pleasure. Especially since everyone who attends their parties are rich enough they could pay for it themselves, but instead they use our money.

I've been researching trying to find anything that says they are paying for it themselves, but not finding anything. I found something about a white house budget, but again that budget is funded by taxpayers money.

Since it's my taxpaying money you bet I've got a problem with how they are spending it. Especially in these hard times and what America is going through.

What was it Marie Antoinette said "If they have no bread let them eat cake". I'm starting to see a similarity here.
You've got some of it right
I am prior military and this is the way it works.

Pentagon asks the President for the okay to proceed. The president simply states yay or nay. When you say "outlining a mission" if you are referring to the actual planning of it, no the President does not have anything to do with the plans, but he is informed by the leaders of how the scenario will work out and then he agrees or not. The military leaders are the ones who create the plan and enforce it (complete the action).

The problem with what happened during the Bush years was that Bush trusted the wrong people. When he was told by a group of people that this was there or that was there, he believed them and did not question. One thing that was learned from that was to question everything.

But a lot of people are under the mistaken identity that the president sits and plans the mission out with the military leaders, and he does not. He listens to them and then just okays it.
Seriously? That is the best you've got?
How very, very pathetic.
I've always said................ sm
Yank that Golden Fleece Retirement Plan and see how fast they get things fixed. Chances are slim to none that that will ever happen, but a person can dream.
I've said this before and I will say it again.

It seems to me that liberals are the ones crying and whining abour their rights.  Just like people telling government to stay out of their uteruses.  You didn't seem to have a problem with hospitals and doctors' rights when they were taken away when they were forbidden to refuse performing abortions.  You didn't have a problem with those rights being taken away.  You complain about Christians taking rights away from others.  We are the ones who aren't allowed to pray in public without fear of being made fun or just outright attacked these days.  But for you to say that we are the ones who have no problems taking away rights from others when you liberals have no problems taking away rights of other people as long as you get your way.......talk about your double standards. 


These people were not forcing others to listen to their Bible study.  There is no reason why they can't have Bible study in a private home. 


You kept complaining about conservatives wanting revenge against terrorists and that is why we are for enhanced interrogation but here yourself you say that you normally would have sympathy but because of their group doing things you don't agree with, you have no sympathy.  Is this revenge on your part?  This group doesn't believe like you and doesn't agree with a liberal agenda and so therefore it is okay for them to be attacked for having a Bible study in a private home?  Once again....double standards.


I don't think we've gone as far

He may not be prosecuted, but if the person who placed that ad can be identified,  he's in for a very thorough federal proctological exam. 


I've seen...
similar figures here and there and considering the era probably correct as anyone can guesstimate. I wasn't completely understanding the thread initially (short on time), now I do. Thanks.
Now you've done it.....LOL..(sm)
They'll be getting the pitchforks and guns right about now. 
As I've said before - you really don't want to
But, more to the point, Republicans haven't been interested in what goes on in anyone else's bedroom for a very long time, so this author needs to wake up and smell the coffee. This isn't just "old hat" stuff - it's completely moldy - and besides, isn't this author getting into the Governor's bedroom habits? Doh!

Both Democrats and Republicans need to hold our leaders up to standards that at least meet the test of decency.