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To Ashamed Black MT:

Posted By: Marmann on 2009-01-14
In Reply to: Thank you Just the Big Bad - Ashamed black MT

I wholeheartedly agree with JTBB.  I think people see different things when they see Obama.


What I see is someone who is also half WHITE.  I see someone who wouldn't even have been allowed to EXIST in this country not very long before he was born because interracial marriage was against the law.  I see how far our country has come, despite all the bigots and racists, some of which obviously linger (but hopefully will go by the way of the dinosaur).


Most of all, I see someone who represents the BEST in most of us, instead of the LEAST in the few of us.  By acknowledging my EXISTENCE (and I'm white) as someone in America who isn't a millionaire, by acknowledging the EXISTENCE of a healthcare problem and by acknowleding the EXISTENCE of all the other problems that plague people who were once part of the almost extinct middle class, he is acknowledging the existence of most of us, which is much more than has been done by the Republicans during either the last eight years or even during the 2008 Presidential campaign.


I have great faith in him, especially when I see him with his children, that he truly wants what is best for everyone in this country.  I have no idea why so many people are so threatened by him.  I truly see hope for a better future, even though I've been "programmed" to live on edge and wonder what the "President" is doing next to stick it to the little guy.  Hopefully, I'll get over that "reflex," and hopefully he won't give me a reason to question or criticize him.




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You should be ashamed

You don't seem to think much at all.  You probably listen to faux news and Hannity.  Have you not seen what Bush did the last 8 years?  He is a criminal.  AL Queda is not in Iraq.  That war is about oil.  Cheney has the contract to rebuild Iraq for $5 billion for his Halliburton company.  He still gets money from that company.  The English being the official language is way more complicated than a small mind like yours can comprehend.  The fact is that right now we do not have an official language.  The reason they won't make it an official language is that if someone of hispanic origins comes to the emergency room, they wouldn't be able to communicate if things were only printed in English. 


Bush destroyed our country.  Palin is a dumb person who can't answer a straight question and so hides from the media unless it's the haters like Rush and Hannity.  That discredits her even more.  Fox news shouldn't even be legal.  You can say the media is biased but Fox News outright lies.  They take pieces of text out of context and try to make something of it.  Obama is not palling around with terrorists.  Bill Ayers was working with the Mayor of Chicago.  You are a complete moron and unfortunately, there are a few like you out there.  You sound like a stupid hillbilly.  You think Bush was a conservative and look what he did in his time as president.... he turned the banking system into socialism. 


McCain ditched his first wife who waited for him while he was in prison.  That's just not nice.  Cindy McCain is all botoxed out... $100 million a year she makes and so I seriously doubt she is a regular person.  They are insulated from the problems of common idiots like you, yet you stick up for them.


 


I think you should be ashamed
It was Obama who did that with the ecomy.  He was involved with Fannie Mae and signed bills to get people into homes they couldn't afford, no down payment and no documentation.  His college and his wife's college as well as his house was financed with terrorists.  Look on Godtube and see the videos from Saddleback.
I'm ashamed at you....
Food stamps has nothing to do with race, and if you think it does then you better rethink who the prejudice one is.
I'm not ashamed
to be an American,  I am ashamed of the deeds done by the government to give us Americans a bad name.  We are very much hated around the world and the fault does not lie solely on Bush.  I do know soldiers personally that did not agree with Bush going to Iraq, but those soldiers ALSO stated they were not happy with Obama's "we can't win" sentiment over the "conflict" in Iraq.  To them, this felt like he does not believe in the US military enough.
Why should I be ashamed - I'm not 17 and preggie!

NM


sorry to hear your ashamed of yourself
C'mon people get with the facts. You may not like it but a fact is a fact and you can't change it.

What do you mean "people like me". You mean people who do research and will accept good and bad on both sides. You mean people like me who want to know the truth.
I am ashamed of the USA for having these insulting,
nm
And I'm ashamed of the USA for electing the
the so-called 'moral majority' that elected him. What's wrong with you people, anyway? Are you all missing the same chromosomes?
You ashamed to show us your name?
I guess I would be too if I were you. You talk about rants! Shucks, guess I am just being obnoxious again.
I agree with you...........we should be ashamed
to vote a person into the presidency who has NO respect for life at all!! If a woman does not feel she wants or can care for the child, there is adoption.

I have a niece and a nephew through adoption and I feel blessed that their mothers cared enough for those children to give them up for adoption and show TRUE love and selflessness for that unborn child!
YOU should be ashamed for supporting a candidate
nm
Your statement makes me ashamed
Jesus did not teach this kind of hatred. I will pray for your elightenment.
Secretary Napolitano should be ashamed!!

Now she thinks if you're against abortion, you're an "extremist".  If you don't like the government's crap, you're an "extremism".  If you want LESS government, you're an "extremist".   If you're a veteran, you're a LOT more likely to be an "extremist".   This is just the kind of garbage mentality running our country!!!   We now let our "extremist" government decide who are the "bad" groups?  According to them, ANYONE who opposes their spending activity is an "extremist"!! 


She could have just as easily stood at her little podium and stated that all these people have EVERY right to be heard and express themselves, but she didn't.  She demonized anyone who doesn't like our present administration or any administration for that matter.............  absolutely pathetic!


 


I would be ashamed if I were someone with Rush's ignorance. No jealousy here. But I do wonder a
lot about those who are his fans.
People like you make me ashamed to call myself
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I do not support unjust wars, and I am not ashamed to say so!
Do you know many billions of dollars have been wasted in Iraq? Our men and women do not belong there, and I believe their time would be better spent doing something constructive in this country rather than killing people in other countries.
In my last sentance I meant a coward, not ashamed -nm
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who are "you guys". I'm a democrat and ashamed of
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Even a black man..(sm)

*there is a great many people ready to believe in anything, even a black man from a corrupt Chicago political machine with a nice smile and pretty words. *


Yes, it is a historic event for a black man to become president, as is readily recognized and rightfully so.  However, the OP used *even a black man* in what can only be described as a derogatory manner.  -- ready to believe in anything -- even a black man -- followed by more derogatory comments.  To read a statement like this that was obviously meant to be demeaning and pick out one aspect and try to paint that as an innocent description is ridiculous.  Do you really think she meant to add a compliment in the midst of that statement?  I think not.  In fact, even the phrase *with a nice smile and pretty words* was meant as a sarcastic representation.  I'm not making a mountain out of a mole hill here.  This was obviously a racist statement.  If Obama were white do you think the post would have included the statement *even a white man?*  Of course it wouldn't.  Why do you think that is?  I think the OP managed to show her true colors on this one, whether or not she even realized it. 


LOL! Yes, black and white =
only. Too bad it's not a black and white, good or bad world. The you're either with us or against us philosophy has not served us well in the world community and here at home your patriotism is questioned simply because you ask questions. But it's our mission to spread democracy. God help us.
this looks like you are comparing a black
person to a "retarded" person, which makes YOU look bad. -and have some respect for the office, please. Talking like a 5-year-old does not help your own cause.
One black man jealous of another who
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He is both black AND white.
Not that it matters and your not the only one but people keep referring to Barack as a "black" man without acklowdeging that he is also half white (50/50). His mother was as white as they come. I don't feel we are electing a black man (or a white man). I feel we are electing a capable man.
yep - black humor
Actually, I thought it was hilarious when he said it.......but I'm a pretty easy going, laid back person. I saw the comedy in it.
Or as Louis Black would say...
"They deserve to be as miserable as the rest of us!"
Love Mr. Black!
No one is afraid of him because he is black....
it is a valid concern that he is a racist.

However, his far left socialism is more concerning to me than his racism.
Vote just because he/she is black - sm

Is just as wrong as not voting for because he/she is black


I am afraid that too many folks casting their votes will be doing it for these reasons, and that is scary


what does black and white have to do with it?
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Nothing to do with black or white there....has to do
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I wish McCain was a black man.

I personally feel the McCain hasn't been able to attack Obama like he should because they are too afraid of the race card being played.....and let's face it.....the race card is being played as it is. 


He does not need to LOOK for black vote.
Already addressed this Selma junk yesterday. Know how many black feel patronized? Don't make me have to go dig up my post from yesterday that already put this garbage to rest. It will embarrass you.
do you think if she were black it would have matter?
So sad.
Black and White
People and organizations often try to condense life into a black and white little box. It's way too gray for that.

One thing I discovered as I got older ... just because people or organizations come on strong doesn't mean they know what they are talking about or have good ideas.

I was always shy and figured the people who were forceful were such because the knew their $#it. Sooo not true. :)
I admit that I am not black.

I guess you could say I have not walked in a black person's shoes.  However, don't for one second think that I have never felt racism.  I've seen the glares and dirty looks aimed in my direction by black people.  I've given smiles to strangers who instead of smiling back would glare hatefully at me.  I've said, "I have a nice day," to people who have either given me a dirty look or turned their back to me. 


I was at a hospital visiting my dying father when I left with my son to get something to eat.  My son is very young and has a developmental delay.  A black mother and her daughter walked onto the elevator with us.  My son, not knowing any better, looked at the little girl and commented that she was brown.  Without even thinking I said, "Yes she is.  Isn't she beautiful!"  The mother gave me the dirtiest look.


Well, I hear that something like 95% of black
nm
He chose to be more black
He said so himself in his book.
Black? You mean muslim.
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Anybody see the Black Panther
arguing with the Fox reporter in Philadelphia.  Yeah, I would feel comfortable going there to vote.  What is wrong with these people.  Why can't people just go vote honestly with none of the scams and crap going on, and see who the MAJORITY of citizens want for our next President?  This whole thing is absurb!  Glad I live in a small town, no lines, no bull*****
Those of us that aren't black could
never understand in a million years what this election to means to many black people.  Just 40 years ago, they could not even vote.  Obama never referred to himself as being akin to MLK -- that tag was put on him by others as a standard for the few black people in our society that have been held up as examples of what any human being can accomplish if given the opportunity.  I ask you, if you or your ancestors (blacks, Jews, etc.) had been held in slavery for hundreds or thousand of years, being treated as non-humans, would you not consider it a victory to finally be recognized as an equal?  Get over your self-righteous indignation and accept it for what it is -- a progressive step forward long overdue.
I think it's official.....gay is the new black (sm)
It amazes me that we can take such a huge step as we did in the general election and yet at the same time take away someone else's rights.  I hope this goes to the supreme court.
Oh boy, now that we have a black president
Now, if say, Chris Rock had made that comment, you're going to tell me you would still find that bad? That guys says plenty of racist things and I can guarantee you many on this board would be laughing at any racist comment he makes. They just won't admit it.
Black Friday
That was so terrible!!  I cannot believe that people are so greedy and thoughtless as to create such bedlam...there was no need for something like this to happen.  I hope they find the person responsible and throw them under the jail.  I think BF should be outlawed.  I once went shopping a day after Thanksgiving many years ago and have not since - people pulling items out of others' hands, people cursing at one another...I felt so bad for the people running out the checkout counter.  One checkout girl was so frazzled she began to cry because one of the people in line told her she was 'too slow', and went on to threaten this poor lady..it's a sad commentary on our society, and even sadder that there is a family in mourning because people don't know how to behave in public
Even Black Friday..........sm
wasn't the success the retailers had hoped for. There were several articles over the weekend sayin that, while there fairly good turnouts, it wasn't the big kick-off they expected.
I'd say that's the pot calling the kettle black, gt. sm
It's not up to you to judge who is Christian and who is not.  Anyone who wishes for someone to burn in hell along with his family has no business especially judging anyone's Christianity.  Good Lord.
Pot..kettle..black, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Please post where I have made a *generalization about everything*?  LOL, that in itself is a wild broad generalization by you..er..which one are you today??  Cant keep track, changing your handle every few posts..Continue on with your lies, misrepresentations and extremely board generalizations..I need a good laugh this afternoon.
are we ready for a black president?
-Chris Rock
black prez remark

My, how classy.  That so-called retardate graduated Yale & Harvard.  Now who's retarded?  Bill Clinton is plenty of things, too, but stupid, retarded, etc. are things that I've never heard a conservative say...ever.


I'll let Chris Rock lie in the gutter with his money and his filthy mouth.


Class always speaks for itself.


Go on line and read up on the black...
liberation theology, which is central to the teaching of his Trinity church, of which he has been a member for 20 years. Look at the "economic parity" part of it. If you think Hilary has socialist leanings...Barack is way to the left of her on that score. His little lets do a windfall profits tax on oil and take that money and redistribute it in $1000 energy rebates. That, my friend, is socialist to the hilt, redistribution of wealth, taking from those who legally made the money and giving it to those who did nothing to earn it. Extreme socialism. He is already calling for it and doesn't have the job yet.

And yes, I think that kind of thinking and action could destroy America as we know it. America is built on free enterprise, the freedom to be and do what you want to be, through hard work and dedication move up in the world and if you become rich, more power to you! We can't all become rich, but let me tell you, I don't blame the rich for being rich. I am responsible for my own destiny and I do not expect an oil company or Bill Gates or anyone else to share their wealth with me and I sure don't think the government should be taking from them and giving to me. That is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Also...look into what happened to the US economy when Carter issued a windfall profit tax on oil companies during his administration....BIG mistake. All that will do is discourage domestic production and drilling, and what happens then? INCREASED dependence on foreign oil and prices through the roof.

All Obama is doing is playing that old socialist trick of pandering to the have nots in the world who want to blame the "rich" for everything. By the way, Obama is by no means poor...why doesn't he divy out some of his bucks to the have nots? Put his money where his mouth is so to speak. You know why? Because it is a lot easier to give someone else's money away and keep yours...another typically elitist socialist ideal. We will keep all OUR money, we will just take some of THEIR money and dole it out to the have nots to keep the have nots beholden to us, thus insuring our control over them for the future.

No thanks.
black and white thinking

in other words seeing someone as all bad or all good is not an indicator of high intelligence.  Beware.


 


Don't know how you can accuse me of only seeing black and white...
in view of all these posts. You really think calling someone a redneck and Nascar and a religious wacko is appropriate way to talk about issues?

They quote the bill of rights but ignore the one about freedom of religion...they hawk choice but you mention choice of the child and they tear the hide off you in strips...usually telling you to go back to your church, bible-thumper, etc., as if all pro-life people are grounded in religion. THat is simply NOT the truth...there are liberal pro-lifers who believe ALL life is sacred...and not from a liberal point of view, but a moral one.

And you can still post to me that to ME everything is black and white. I am perfectly willing and have been perfectly willing to debate issues. THey just do not tolerate a dissenting opinion, if you debate policies they take it as a personal affront to Obama...what was that you said about total agreement with a platform...?

No, frankly, I don't see it. But there will probably be more posts after yours high-fiving you for lecturing me.

Have a good evening.
Here is a poignant remark by a black man...

Posted by: Matt | Apr 8, 2008 4:55:32 PM



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What This Democratic Primary Has Taught Me...


Hillary is a conservative democrat.


McCain is a moderate republican.


Obama is a liberal socialist that will keep my race, blacks, looking for a means to become whole citizens, never finding a way and eventually becoming as content as before him in their victimhood.