I am not bullying anyone into my way of thinking....
Posted By: sam on 2008-09-14
In Reply to: you just know everything, don't you...have an answer for everything - MTPockets
simply presenting the other side. That is what democracy is about. If you are saying women should not involve themselves in politics, I could not disagree more. Decisions affect us, just like they affect men.
Of course I don't know everything...I just give research due diligence because I don't accept anything from either side at face value. The whole basis of our political system is that there are two sides to everything and you choose whichever side most closely meets what you think is best for the country.
What is wrong with defending someone if you believe that person is right? The other side defends Obama just as aggressively, if not more so.
Actually, the beatitude says the meek shall inherit the earth, not the weak. In my interpretation, "meek" does not mean "weak."
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No bullying would be too easy........they have to push
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What is your problem with just teaching no bullying
There is no need to point out homosexuals as being people they should not pick on. Why pick out any single type of kid?
Did you ever hear of just teaching your child to be nice to people, to not name call, bully or pick on anyone? That would just about wrap it up wouldn't it?
There are many young children in elementary school that do not even know the term "homosexual", so I certainly don't believe it is the school's job to bring that to the attention of a child. That is the parent's responsibility to explain what homosexuality is, if they so choose.
You think for a minute if a school starts talking about tolerance of homosexuals that questions wouldn't arise about what they do, what that means, why they do that, and every other question they could possibly imagine? I sure as heck don't care for the school system to educate my child on gays or their lifestyle, thank you very much!
Teaching a child about not making fun of a child with disabilities is NOT the same as teaching a child about homosexuals. You believe homosexuality to be a "disability". Funny you brought up those two things together..........
No sell!
WHy is disagreeing with a position viewed as bullying?
Your response is much more bullying....self-righteous and pompous I think were your words...
It is not MY party. I am not a Republican. This country would be much better off if everyone, both sides, put country first and not the party.
That being said...it were an important issue to debate, it should not have had to have a pregnant 17-year-old girl "spark it." All I am saying is, regardless of that, it is a choice whether to continue to bring into the spotlight a candidate's child for political fodder.
The point is...it was not an issue before 17-year-old pregnant Bristol. But now it is, a way to keep that constantly in the forefront. That is the choice some on the left have made.
All I am saying is...while I am sure you think it is justified, there are many who will not. And that is ALL I am saying.
Agreed. Teach no bullying or violence, period.
"Lifestyle acceptance" doesn't have to come into it at all. I don't have to accept anyone's lifestyle in order to learn that bullying and violence are not acceptable ways of expressing my disagreement with them.
You see, there's a conflation between the principle of "nonviolence" and "acceptance of lifestyles" going on here, and it's very, very calculated and it's very, very deliberate.
In fact, "acceptance" is really an inadequate basis for nonviolence - if you stop for a moment to think about it - because I am obliged to be nonviolent toward people whose lifestyles not even you would suggest that that I (or my children) should EVER "accept".
Just teach "no bullying" PERIOD and leave the lifestyle crap out of it.
I'm sorry, but you're very naive about what these children are actually being taught - i.e., that one family is "just like another" (there's a cute little song they sing about this), etc.
You want to teach kids not to be physically violent toward any other kids - fine. You go beyond that and start preaching the gospel of lifestyle equivalency and you're wandering off into the parents' domain.
Oh, yeah - I almost forgot. Get back to T E A C H I N G!!
I have seen some bullying get out of hand first hand
during the same grocery strikes that I referred to in the very small town where I grew up. Scabs were beat up and such. I am not saying it's the norm, but there can be tremendous pressure to vote one way or another--as can be seen right here.
Thinking
Subject: Thinking is
> dangerous
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> It started out innocently enough.
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> I began to think at parties now and then -- to loosen up.
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> Inevitably, though, one thought led to another, and soon I was more than
> just a
> social thinker.
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> I began to think alone -- to relax, I told myself -- but I knew it
> wasn't
> true.
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> Thinking became more and more important to me, and finally I was thinking
> all
> the time.
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> That was when things began to sour at home. One evening I had turned off
> the
> TV
> and asked my wife about the meaning of life.
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> She spent that night at her mother's.
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> I began to think on the job.
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> I knew that thinking and em! ployment don't mix, but I couldn't stop myself.
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> I began to avoid friends at lunchtime so I could read Thoreau and Kafka.
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> I would return to the office dizzied and confused, asking, What is it
> exactly
> we are doing here?
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> One day the boss called me in.
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> He said, Listen, I like you, and it hurts me to say this, but your
> thinking
> has
> become a real problem. If you don't stop thinking on the job, you'll have
> to
> find another job.
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> This gave me a lot to think about.
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> I came home early after my conversation with the boss.
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> Honey, I confessed, I've been thinking...
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> I know you've been thinking, she said, and I want a divorce!
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> But Honey, surely it's not that serious.
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> It is serious, she said, lower lip aquiver. You think as much as
&! gt; college
> professors, and college professors don't ! make any money, so if you keep on
> thinking, we won't have any money!
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> That's a faulty syllogism, I said impatiently.
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> She exploded in tears of rage and frustration, but I was in no mood to
> deal
> with
> the emotional drama.
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> I'm going to the library, I snarled as I stomped out the door.
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> I headed for the library, in the mood for some Nietzsche.
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> I roared into the parking lot with NPR on the radio and ran up to the big
> glass
> doors...
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> They didn't open. The library was closed.
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> To this day, I believe that a Higher Power was looking out for me that
> night.
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> Leaning on the unfeeling glass, whimpering for Zarathustra, a poster
> caught
> my
> eye.
>
> Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your life? it asked.
>
> You probably recognize that line.! It comes from the standard Thinker's
> Anonymous poster. Which is why I am what I am today: a recovering thinker.
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> I never miss a TA meeting. At each meeting we watch a non-educational
> video;
> last week it was Porky's. Then we share experiences about how we avoided
> thinking since the last meeting.
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> I still have my job, and things are a lot better at home.
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> Life just seemed...easier, somehow, as soon as I stopped thinking.
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> I think the road to recovery is nearly complete for me.
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WHAT was I thinking!!!!
I forgot only your opinion counts. Please forgive me.
Whatever was I thinking? NT
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W's thinking (or not)
W. finds time to attend the services for the VT students (as he ought), yet fails to attend a single funeral of any one of the soldiers he has sent into war; no excuse in my book. I am currently listening to the service on TV and the Governor of VA is saying how W knows **first as a governor and now as president the importance of comfort and consolation necessary in these sad times.** (paraphrased a bit) Soldiers and their families don't need comfort or consolation...that is just wrong. People who have voluntarily put their lives in danger at the behest of their president and in duty to their country are not afforded the respect of the man's (who sent them there presence??) This is not to minimize in any way the tragedy at VT. I realize that one cannot attend 3300 funerals but maybe at least 1 in each state or something. These soldiers deserved better.
Gee, with this way of thinking, I should
be VP, a heartbeat from the presidency. I am NOT Washingtonian. I am a normal person. My husband is a blue collar worker. I have three children and six grandchildren. Hmmmm.... Why wasn't I called!? Since 1984, I have felt that the American people are so stupid, and as it turns out, I am right.
Like he said...he kept thinking they would do something...
and they aren't. ANd you would think that the man who is going to be president would want to BE THERE and hear things FIRST HAND on the biggest crisis of the country. Good grief, admit it, if Obama had done it first you would be singing his praises and saying all the things we are saying about McCain. Just admit it...lol Geez.
What are they thinking???!!!
I am a republican, and plan to vote for McCain. Why in the world did they allow Sarah Palin to go on that piece of crap Saturday Night Live??
Your thinking about this too much!
Here this should put you to rest! LOL (this is the most unbiased one I could find)
I am thinking that
it is a bad idea to kill any industry while bailing others out in a failing economy, but that's just my way of thinking. It seems silly to throw money at industries that are doing poorly while trying to bankrupt industries that are doing well.
Exactly what I was thinking.
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Now that I am thinking about it.....
That we should transcribe ESL without complaining! We should be politically correct and polite, and understanding, but the different accents just kept coming from all over the world and we were expected to be professional and productive, but that has been hard also.
Just what I was thinking of
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I'm thinking about doing that too...(sm)
I'm 45 with at least 20 yrs to go. I figure I'll only put in money that I can spare--yeah that's a joke. Instead of buying extra stuff I don't need (assuming that's an option in the future), I'll save that back for investing.
I was thinking 7 too....are we right, m?....nm
HA HA HA HA HA - That's what I was thinking.
Oh my gosh I laughed so hard at your reply. That's the funniest all morning. Thanks for the laugh.
LOL! Thanks for saying what I was thinking, JBB.
:)
What ARE they thinking?
report on anything whatsoever that does not help to advance the culture wars? You are so right. What we need is a 24/7/365 media blitz belittling the evil prez and drumming up as much opposition as possible to any avancement toward a fix for the economy. Good luck with that. Seriously. It's about the only hope the GOP has for being able to make face in 2012 or to orchestrate that all important revolution in Congress in 2010. Hang all those pesky folks who are losing their jobs and homes.
I'm thinking that the only ones to be
bummed out by all these developments are the productive members of society, who see their lives not really being improved by all this hope and change. So it would be in the government's best interests to keep us from checking out, so that we can be kept subsidizing everyone else. This is not really concern. They are just trying to prevent escape.
You have my empathy. I had been seriously thinking
of relocating down south, but I think it's prudent to steer clear of it because I don't want to live amongst people like that any more than they would want me to live amongst them. Feels very much like a new age of segregation, only based on religion/politics instead of race. If you visit the Conservative board, it's clear to see the tactics they use, and it shows depth of character to me. I've made a list of people who aren't worth the click of a mouse because they've proven themselves to have no credibility, and I don't feel like wasting time.
People's views vary on a number of issues, and I usually really enjoy reading opposing views if they're presented in an intelligent, credible manner without insults or attacks or falsehoods.
Anyway, it's great to see someone who's a NICE, cheerful, venomless person post, regardless of your views. I hope you keep visiting. 
I was thinking the very same thing.
It seems like some dark force has taken over Lurker. I will pray about that.
Thanks for your reply. I was thinking that the more...
moderate and even conservative leaning Independents might be swayed. Enough of them swayed to vote him back in as an Independent as a senator. I realize that is only one state, but there are others of like mind across the country who are pretty sick of the Democratic Party and the Republican Party...and McCain is more moderate, as is Lieberman...not hard right or hard left. That is very appealing to some people right now who are tired of the infighting and the extremes. I think Lieberman is VERY astute and realizes this.
As to the war in Iraq...both Clinton and Obama have said they would not be for immediate withdrawal of troops. The only candidate I have heard who said they would end the war immediately is Ron Paul. Which, I know is an unpopular stance you. The only thing I can say at this point is that for whatever reason we went...which we cannot change...we are there. And you can't unscramble eggs. We need to do the best fix we can in the shortest time possible, and Petraeus is doing that. Amazing strides have been made. Hopefully they will continue and we are able to get most of our forces out of there in a year or two. Which is better than the 5-6 years they used to talk about. And to me, that is an amazing stride.
At any rate, thanks for your answer. I won't hold my breath to hear you, DW, being criticized as a one-issue voter (you said that you would not vote for McCain because of his stand on the war). lol.
Have a great day!
you said exactly what I've been thinking
The democratic party needs to kick the Clintons out. They need to tell them they are dividing the party. I've heard many people say there are actually 3 parties. The democrats, republicans, and the Clintons. And that is no joke. I don't know where they came from but they only surfaced about 16 years ago when Billy ran and now they are like a virus. I wish the Dems had some "cahonas" and just told Bill & Hillary they are not wanted in the democratic party and they remove them. They have not done anything good for the party. As for saying Hillary inspires woman - oh please - there are tons more women in poltics who are aspiring. The only thing Hillary inspires are the liars and cheats. And I'd like to rip their fingers off. Didn't their mother's ever teach them it's rude to point to people.
I am thinking the same thing..
like everyone wants it to... It's just not that type of thing you can just "forget about." Maybe John McCain should have done some digging on his own before choosing her.
Thank you. I have been thinking the same thing of her. nm
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Really? Well, your ignorance of thinking O has any
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BACKWARDS thinking?
Do a little research on McBush before you think he'll do a better job.
It's entirely IRResonsible to elect a 72-year-old bush wannabe with a half-baked right wingnut in the wings as second in line to the still most powerful office in the world.
Like war and paying for REBUILDING SOMEONE ELSE'S COUNTRY instead of your own?
THEN MCBUSH IS YOUR MAN
Most likely she is. Alot of that thinking seems
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Thanks sam - was just thinking about you yesterday
We miss you here. We need people to post with knowledge and sanity (and links that back up things they say). All I'm reading are nasty hate-filled posts and its quite nauseating. Especially when they don't have facts.
Where's the logic in this way of thinking?
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it should be.....backwards thinking
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You got nothing there but your own circular thinking.
gag me
Seems to me he isn't thinking straight
in a lot of areas. "Not thinking straight" is a qualification for the highest office in the land? I should hope not.
I was thinking the same thing
if I MUST eat it, please doctor it up as best you can and parboil it pretty long in advance, my teeth ain't what they used to be. LOL
I was thinking more on the lines of a
decent steak and baked potatoes if the budget would handle it. If not, they shoulda made hot dogs and baked beans.
We're paying for this, ya know. That's what's so sickening. We down the tubes and they're feasting as if nothing is wrong.
At least you're thinking of me!! nm...
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Thinking outloud...(sm)
You're right about that. The government thus far has been just as (if not more so) inefficient than the large corporations. One good thing that could however come out of the government running, in particular, the auto industry and/or whatever the new green industry will be is lower cost for the consumer. I think we need to flip a coin...LOL
funny, I was just thinking
gourdpainter should run for something.
I was thinking the same thing.....sm
I thought he would make a great expert witness.
Thinking before you speak
What masses are you talking about? Who exactly thinks they're going to get freebies? Who worships the ground he walks on?
The guy thinks before he speaks because he's a thinker. He wants to make sure that what comes out of his mouth is exactly what he wants to convey.
It's easy to hurl unfounded insults, isn't it? You don't have to think to do that.
Gimme a break.
At first I was thinking wow they picked up....sm
on that quick, but I forgot that I get a late showing. It happened less than 5 minutes ago on the 4 pm broadcast.
I was thinking more in the terms of...(sm)
G-O-P -- yeah, you know me.....ROFL. Steele not only has no clue about the hip hop community, but his following obviously has no clue what he's trying to do. Yeah, I'm gonna enjoy this one.
That's along the lines I was thinking, but....(sm)
the right is painting him as going around with a baseball bat taking out old people....ROFL. Because he's superbad...LOL.
I'm thinking of a phrase...
oh yeah - "When pigs fly."
You are just thinking too 'inside the box'
Think of the currently unemployed pig-smell scientists who will be employed by this (I think there are currently 3), the technicians (6), the manufacturers of olfactory analysis machines (only 1 and it's in China, but hey we're a global community now and should not be selfish), the pigpen-poop scooping maintenance workers (12 - but it's a high-turnover position).
There will be start up costs to acquire porcine study subjects, thus helping farmers.
They may have to build new barns and labs for this and that will provide construction jobs right there! And besides, at the end of the experiment you can always barbecue the subject animals, which you cannot do with lab rats. Bet you didn't take that into consideration in your nay-saying, did you?
A swine-smell sweetener may come out of this, so there's a whole new industry. How can we know unless we make the initial investment in this technology? Maybe a new government agency to regulate swine emissions will spring up.
Short-sighted people like you just drive me nuts. Obama cannot help you unless you open your mind to more possibilities.
Was Newt thinking for himself...(sm)
when he voted for the bailout? What could he possibly have to say at one of these things? Maybe talk about taxes? You should probably look of the history of some of these people before you go blindly following them like sheep.
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