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I am not surprised that you missed my point.

Posted By: Trigger Happy on 2009-04-20
In Reply to: Oh, so you don't care if this has been done before with other presidents, . . . sm - sm

If they have done this with other presidents, fine.  If Obama is the first, it just goes to show the love affair the media, including CNN, has with Obama and the bias they report in his favor.  That was my point and I was trying to be nice in inquiring about whether or not they had done this type of thing with previous presidents, but since you have jumped on me for my post....I'm not going to be nice any more.  I'm tired of the love affair with Obama and the free passes he gets for everything including the obvious and blantant lies that he tells.  Makes me sick. 


The reason people are scrutinizing everything Obama does is because our country is in deep deep doo doo.....if you haven't noticed......and yes this started before Obama's administration but now that he is the big cheese on campus.....it is his time to be observed and if I don't feel that what he is doing is best for our economy and our country, I have a right to say something and express my concerns.  I'm not unpatriotic for disagreeing with him.  I'm not racist for disagreeing with him.  I'm not republican for disagreeing with him. 


Barack Obama is just a man.  He isn't the Messiah like the left try to make him out to be and he isn't the anti-christ like some on the right try to portray him as.....but he is our president and I have a right to voice my opinion on whether or not I think he is doing a good job and quite frankly......I'm not very impressed with him yet.


As for CNN celebrating Obama's 100 days as president....I'm sure they will make him once again look like he does no wrong and he is to be worshiped.  Therefore, I will not be watching it.  I had enough of the sickening adoration of him during the inaguration.  I am proud that our country has looked past the prejudice of skin to elect the first African American president, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized and questioned just like every other president that has ever been in office.  This is our country and we have a right to question what he does if we disagree with him.  I don't have a problem with an African American as president.....I just don't think Barack Obama was the right guy for the job.


And quite honestly....I'd be just as disgusted by this if this was the first 100 days of Hillary's presidency because there are a lot of things I don't agree with her on either.  So spare me!




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I think you missed my point. sm
But I think this points out where the disonnect lies between those who understand the deadly threat of what we are fighting against and those who do not.
And you have missed my point entirely.

Michelle Obama is a career woman herself.  Between her and Obama....they make like 1 million bucks a year.  That isn't all his income....that is hers as well.  She spends time campaigning and traveling to give speeches.  You say SP shouldn't be VP because she has young children.  Here Obama is with young children and nothing is said.  We assume Michelle is with them 24/7.....did Michelle personally call you and tell you that??  I am just saying that this whole argument about not liking SP because she should stay home with her children is just as relevent to argue when it comes to B. Hussein Obama and Michelle Obama and their children.


I refuse to continue to banter back and forth with you about this.  No...I don't know personally if Todd is giving up his career to stay home with the children but I see Michelle doing a he11 of a lot that keeps her away from her and Barry's children. 


You missed the point. I was not just
the people in the path of Ike, I AM in the path of Ike myself. I have small children and animals to worry about and there is no one else but me. You cannot understand what it is like to know that evacuation orders are being called, some voluntary, others mandatory, that the path of the storm changes every 3 or 4 hours and you have to make decisions about whether or not to stay or leave. You either stock up on nonperishibles which go flying off the shelves within hours, board up and hunker down or you board up and get the heck out of Dodge.

All day yesterday and last night, the weather channel was announcing that some mandatory evacs had been called, but NOBODY, including local media outlets, was actually saying which ones they were. My comments were more or less about the lack of media coverage but I am also not apologetic about feeling some resentment toward the herd mentality and worship of one single SKIRT, a word which I intentionally chose because as far as I am concerned, up against 5 million people running for their lives and MY OWN CHILDREN, her comings and goings and all the smut politics that has been surrounding the nonstop media blitz was trivial and insignificant. If it were your home, your car, your chldren and your life, you would get that. What is even more disturbing is the fact that some of you do not even seem to have the capacity to take a single moment out of all this juvenile rhetoric and tit-for-tat outrage to stop and just simply try to put yourselves into somebody elses' shoes. Next to my children, SP is a pipsqueak, a skirt....a NOBODY. Wee needed some HELP and we couldn't get it because of all this stupid nonsense. Don't you get that?
You missed the point....
I really don't care if it offends you. If McCain and Palin were taking donations from Muslim countries, I would say the same thing. I am just not one who cares for all that politically correct garbage. Where does that get us?

Considering Obama's "buddies" in the middle east, wouldn't surprise me at all if he doesn't have all kinds of donations by "questionable" people/terrorists....wonder why they felt the need to lie about their name? If you can't deal with that.....too bad!!!
You have missed my point entirely.
I have no problem with an African-American president if that person is the right person for the job.  I know there were assassination attempts on white presidents obviously as they all have been white...duh!  I'm just saying that there are plenty of crazy whackos out there......just look at the KKK.....who would do anything to not be ruled by a black man.  The KKK is just pure hatred against blacks.  I'm not saying I believe that or agree with that.  I'm just saying that the risk is higher for Obama because of this bigotry.  I do not wish anything bad to happen to Obama so don't play the race card or call me a racist.  I'm just saying that everyone keeps talking about McCain killing over and dying but no one mentions the fact that Obama could very well be assassinated by some crazy-@ssed KKK groupie.
I think you missed the point here.

Of course the economy is important and on everyone's mind right now.  This is the worst economic fiasco since the Great Depression. 


It's not always about the money. 


Yes you missed something. The point!
Oh, self-proclaimed guru of the message boards. Go back to digging up rocks with your husband.
You obviously missed the point. (sm)

While this legislation is targeted at abortion, it doesn't actually say abortion.  It says "procedures."  Given it's broad language it can be translated into any type of procedure.


But lets take this scenario into consideration.  Girl gets pregnant and wants to have the baby.  Girl's health is at risk if she has the baby.  Doctor does not believe in abortion at all, so does not have to give that patient the option of abortion.  Get the picture yet?  It's not all about abortion.  It's about limiting health care in general.


You missed the point.
When was the last time you read an article or saw a photo of W hob-knobbing with the great unwashed?
Yup - missed the point
Didn't expect anything less.
Then you have missed the point entirely

You won't see that kind of thing on those news channels because they don't report black people being racist.  however, if a white person would even hint at something that may be racist even if it is stretching the truth a tad or not......it is reported all over every newspaper, station, etc.  That is the double standard that I am talking about. 


Just like the reverend who prayed at the inauguration and prayed that the white may embrace what is right.  To me that was racist but not one person mentioned it on the news.  I was offended by that.  If that had been a  white pastor saying something like that about the black community.....it would have been all over the news.  Double standards, my friend.....double standards. 


You missed the point - and IF he did we WOULD know
The point was IF Bush was having parties people would have been screaming and shouting (but he wasn't). At least he had the decency not to have frat parties in a building that is supposed to be for someone who is supposed to be a statesman representing our country. Instead now it's a frat/animal house.

Second....you bet we would have known. The liberal nazi media were all over every single thing he did. You bet we would have known.

You all screamed and shouted about the money Bush spent on his inauguration, yet you were perfectly fine with the O outspending him by 3 times as much -

Double standards.
You missed the point - and IF he did we WOULD know
The point was IF Bush was having parties people would have been screaming and shouting (but he wasn't). At least he had the decency not to have frat parties in a building that is supposed to be for someone who is supposed to be a statesman representing our country. Instead now it's a frat/animal house.

Second....you bet we would have known. The liberal nazi media were all over every single thing he did. You bet we would have known.

You all screamed and shouted about the money Bush spent on his inauguration, yet you were perfectly fine with the O outspending him by 3 times as much -

Double standards and disgraceful.
You missed the point....
Considering we have no opposition to alcohol in this country (other than huge taxes on it), why are we so concerned about legalizing marijuana. Either can impair you, driving or otherwise. When we had prohibition, alcohol was still around and there were those that made a killing smuggling that stuff in and selling it. If marijuana were legalized, there wouldn't be a huge black market for it and all the criminal activity it encourages (smuggling)from across the border would go down. We empower the druglords with all this.

Marijuana has shown to have great results for medicinal uses, yet our govt still wants to punish those that use it legitimately. How ludicrous is that? I don't know of anyone with an illness who actually has benefitted from alcohol, other than to just get drunk.

Sure, if legalized, it would be used just like alcohol, as a recreational substance, but it could also be utilized by those with real illnesses that could really benefit from it.
I think you missed the point...(sm)

Wouldn't condoning torture fall into the sin category?  --- which is not something athiests would worry about or preach about.  The obvious point that you are ignoring is the fact that condoning torture by any "christian" is blatent hipocrisy.


You guys are all about being against gay marriage and abortion because it would be a sin, and would like to base laws on these beliefs, but when it comes to torture (also a sin) it's a whole different ballgame. 


I think you've missed the point.
Actually, marriage was originally a prearranged affair based on economics and had nothing to do with love or anything sacred. The point in the parody of the White House *Department of Faith* is that religious extremists fail at their *sacred* marriages (and many other things), yet they critize homosexuals for wanting the equal sacred AND legal protections they enjoy. The hypocrisy is that religious fanatics don't obey their own commandments and teachings of the bible (just like my right-wing reactionary cousin) and yet are ready to condemn everyone else.

Further, your comment about homosexuals dying out because they don't procreate is just plain bizarre. Humans are animals as well and have the same basic instincts (for better and worse) so that some species mate for life as heterosexuals, others are promiscuous, AND some chimps have been studies to be sexual with members of the same gender. Evolution is vast and far-reaching. Given the overpopulation of our planet, I don't think this is something we need to worry about. You almost prove Darwin's theory....do you think homosexuals really *choose* to be homosexual? Why in the world would they want to subject themselves to the homophobia and hatred? Homosexuality was even *gasp* celebrated in ancient Greece.

Oh yeah, and if sex is only for procreation, why do you (at least I assume you do) have a certain body part that plays no role in childbirth whatsoever and is apparently only for pleasure?
You've missed the point, again.
In a rush to be proven right, you missed my point once again. Yes, you can chose them all. It's call peace.

Being pro-choice doesn't mean pro-abortion. You have chosen to speak out and act against abortion because you believe it to be against God's will. Is that ideology so different than other actions undertaken because they felt it was God's will? I don't think I need to list them for you. Most of the horrendous actions against mankind has been at the hands of other men in the name of religion. To me, this is no different.

In so doing, you are taking part in subjugation which is against what the constitution stands for. Correct? Keep it out of the government and keep out of the courts. In needs to be kept at a social level. Educate women against it. Give the women the love and support they need to make the right choice, but you cannot and should not make it for them.

I agree, you do need to adjust your thinking. I do not have intolerance for those who think differently, I have intolerance for those who cannot take another's opinion or perception without tearing it down. Sometimes it pays to be a better listener than a speaker. Tends to the offensive rather than the defensive which seem to be what most of your posts are.

I am officially jumping off this carousel.
You missed the point of the post
I don't care what happened back in June, July or whenever. You just confirmed what I had said in my post and it sounds like you want some "pay back" for whatever you think you want it for. Who knows, and I don't care. My point I was making was I'd like to see positive posts. I'd like to see true discussions about the candidate you favor and why you favor them or don't favor them (and facts to back up your approval or disapproval). Over the past week I've seen hateful posts not only to Sam but to others who don't agree (whether it's for Obama or McCain). All I'm asking is the board to go back to what it was originally meant for...not a "fight club".
Obvoiusly you missed my point . . .
I guess if it was okay to do that on taxpayer's money, she wouldn't be being investigated now, would she?
LOL you missed the entire point...
If saving innocent lives (abortion) is your goal, then MCBUSH is certainly *not* the lesser of two evils because he is CHOMPING at the bit to start MORE fake wars that kill MORE innocent people.

Or as I said before, does it only matter if the "innocent life" being killed is American...?


Are Americans really this stupid they can't see that all these FAKE WAR deplete our own treasury, kil people, and MAKE US MORE ENEMIES??

OR, DO WE have to be brought to our knees by the CIVILIZED portion of the world before we stand up to government that invades innocent countries with OUR money using OUR sons and daughters as cannon fodder?

You must have missed my point, ju ju bean...sm
There is no coverage of "real" conservative economists in the mainstream media who DO NOT support Obama.

I don't have hours and hours to search to find them....but rest assured, they are there, buried amongst the Yes-Men that have climbed aboard the Obama bandwagon.


Like I said, they are not there amongst the mainstream media. The ones that are "AGAINST" Obama's plan.




You people have missed the whole point.
President Obama has not even been president for a week yet and he has an extremely long list of promises that he has made.  Truthfully, there are some promises I don't want him to keep because I don't agree with him.  He just has a lot of live up to because he has promises so much.  I don't expect for him to do everything right away because that is impossible and for you to suggest that I expect this "change" to happen overnight is both stupid and unrealistic.  I was just stating the fact that he has been pres for less than a week, has already broken 2 promises he has made, and has a rather large list of more promises.  It was just an observation.  Don't have a cow.
You missed the point....she was trying to end another's life!
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I think you've missed the point....again..(sm)
Believe me, we know what Rush is, that he doesn't hold any office and is simply a poor entertainment choice.  We've been saying that for years.  It's not the dems who give him more credibility than he deserves, it's the pubs.  Why else would elected republican officials have to stoop to kiss his behind and apologize for disagreeing with him, and even get fired as in the instance above?  The dems have no misconceptions about Rush's role.  We just find it amusing that the pubs can't seem to figure it out.
The point....which you missed....in bliss I suppose....
was the comment in disproportionate numbers. There is nothing to support that contention. Obviously there is a problem with pedophilia among priests...but not in any more disproportionate numbers than in the rest of the population. Teachers, coaches, daycare workers and owners..next door neighbors and relatives. THAT was the point.
What are you saying, death threats are okay? you missed the point
completely, that is utter ridiculousness. the poster meant I think people at McCain's rallies are calling for Obama's death - are you going to stick with that thought, that he should be able to take it? Could not disagree with you more
You missed the point - go figure (see message)
The point was that a President must pass a background check with the FBI - has nothing to do with applying to work for the FBI. He can't pass a basic background check (oh yeah, I feel real safe with him that close to the "launch" button).

So, he can't pass a background check and he is not American born and he's getting a free pass...go ahead make him president. Maybe his cabinet people will be Ahmandinejab, Mohammar Kadafi, Castro, Kim Jong iL, etc. Plus the others he'll form back up with (Ayers & Wright) - after all it will be too late by then.
you missed the point of the original post
The supreme court has not ordered him to produce the original; they are simply reviewing the lower court's ruling regarding Berg bringing the suit in the first place. There is no order to produce the document. This is simply a measure that Berg and the other attorneys requesting the writ are now hoping will bring pressure on the electors to force them to demand the document be presented. But at this point there is no order to produce.
You're obviously one who has missed his entire point
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You completely missed the point didn't ya? And where
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Not surprised at all. Scary, but not surprised.
God help us all get through the next three years. 
I'm surprised that you're surprised.
You really thought voting for the O was going to produce a miracle, that things were going to be different? Better, maybe? Wow.
Not surprised at all by the violence. Only surprised
People are p****d, especially the middle class. They can't bend much further without snapping. My prediction is that if the US gov'mt. keeps letting all the bank and stockmarket criminals off with just a slap on the wrist, eventually the public is going to take matters into its own hands. If I were that guy who bilked people out of millions in that Ponzi scheme, I'd be very, very afraid. He should be in jail if for no other reason than his own protection. I'm willing to bet that in the coming year or two, all sorts of s**t is going to start hitting the proverbial fan.
Yes, I just bet you are surprised. nm
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Thank you! I'm not a bit surprised

unfortunately.


Why am I not surprised?

Is anyone really surprised
by the ***leak*** of the NIE document. I remember Bob Graham, senator from my state, Florida, standing on the floor of congress and predicting this almost verbatim. Many of us agreed with him. Many who did not have changed their minds over the years. I don't find any of this **breaking news.**
Now, why am I not surprised?
But as a self-professed "Bush fan", I would expect nothing less.
Are you surprised? sm
Just more of O's "transparent" tactics. When the questions get tough, he hides behind his standard "I had no idea that was going on" statement.

I was always taught and have always believed that you are known by the company you keep. All of his associates, past and present, have been crooks, liars, bomb builders and just basic scum bags.
I would be surprised if it did.
At this point, the House Repubs need to propose a new bill, since the old one was too unpopular for even the Dems to sell to their constituency.

But the Dems have to save face by not letting the Repubs get credit for putting together a more favorable bill.

I suspect in the end it will be a bill quite similar to the one already voted down, with a few more consessions in the taxpayers' favor.

Of course, both sides will take credit.

Both sides will blame the other for the crisis in the first place.

And both will be corret.
Why am I not surprised
www.BlackBoxVoting.org

Also, watch the DVD "Uncounted" -- a real eye-opener.

The link below is to one of the Blackboxvoting forums
Ha ha! Why am I not surprised?!
If nothing else, this election campaign sure has been ENTERTAINING!
I'm not surprised
to hear you bring God into it. You're who Julian Jaynes was talking about when he talked about the unevolved faction of humanity, the ones who have to have literal interpretations of the Bible because they have an under-developed consciousness and have to recreate the "voice of the chief."

If Jesus knew about the offensive slime you spew, he would never stop puking.

And by the way, Obama has said a number of times that he will stop giving tax breaks to companies that offshore.
I, for one, am not surprised by this...sm
I always thought that Obama was a socialist, about two steps from being a marxist, on his way to being a communist.

If true, this goes to show exactly who and what Obama is about.


Chilling, indeed. No wonder I can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Whenever he's questioned on certain issues, he's too busy trying to sound like not what he is, but still fails miserably.

He sounds like someone hiding something, and it's not pretty.
I'm not surprised
you envision and embrace the negative extreme of everything, given the whole fire & brimstone thing. Good grief. It must be miserable being locked inside that kind of paranoia. You have my sympathy.
I would be surprised
if you had not heard at least a few names on this list, which is, by no means, exhaustive.

Many of the most famous serial killers (e.g., Jeffrey Dahmer, Andrew Cunanan, John Wayne Gacy, Henry Lee Lucas, Ottis Toole, etc.) were homosexuals, but they became widely known due to the nature of their crimes or the identities of their victims, not because they in any way represent serial killers generally.

To name a few:

Gay/Homosexual Serial Killers
Name # of People
Killed Year Killer's Home Location of Murders Notes Birth death
Jeffrey Dahmer 17 1978, 1988-91 Milwaukee Milwaukee and Chicago homosexual cannibal. He was killed by another inmate while in prison. 21 May 1960 28 November 1994
Andrew Cunanan 5 1997 San Diego, Calif. Minnesota; Chicago, IL; South Beach, FL killed fashion designer Gianni Versace 31 August 1969 23 July 1997
Gilles DE Rais 300+ 1430s France France associate of Joan of Arc
Luis Alfredo Garavito 140+ Colombia Colombia Gay serial killer who murdered over 140 boys in Columbia. 25 January 1957
Randy Steven Kraft 65 (est.) 1971 to 1983 Oregon, Michigan, etc. "Score Card Killer"
Michael Swango 35 - 60 1983-97 Ohio, Illinois, New York, South Dakota, Virginia "Doctor of Death" -- killed hospital patients
Andrei Chikatilo 52 until 1992 Russia Russia
Fritz Haarmann 40 (est.) until 1924 Germany Germany "Butcher Of Hanover"
John Wayne Gacy 33 until 1978 Chicago Chicago bisexual; 27 of his victims (young boys he seduced) were found buried in crawlspace under his house. Executed in Joliet, IL. 17 March 1942 10 May 1994
Patrick Wayne Kearney 28+ 1968 to 1977 Redondo Beach, Calif. gay cruising areas of Hollywood
David D. Hill 28? 1968 to 1977 Redondo Beach, Calif. Hollywood Patrick Kearney's lover; confessed to being co-killer with Kearney, but police weren't sure about the extent of his involvement
Hans Grans 27+ until 1924 Germany Germany accommplice and love of Haarmann, the "Butcher Of Hanover"
Wayne Williams 27 1979-81 Atlanta Atlanta Gay serial killer who preyed mostly on young black male hustlers. 27 May 1958
Dean Corll 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX Houston, Texas
Elmer Wayne Henley 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX Houston, Texas Bisexual. Victims were young boys who he kidnapped and tortured. 9 May 1956
David Owen Brooks 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX Houston, Texas
Donald Harvey 25 - 40 (est.) 1970-71 London, Kentucky Kentucky
Juan Corona 25 1971 From Mexico; moved to Yuba City, CA in 1950s Yuba City, Calif. Born in Mexico. All of his victims were men that he first raped, and then killed with a machete over the span of six weeks. Presently resides in Corcoran State Prison. Juan Corona's brother is Natividad, the gay, owner of the Guadalajara cafe in Marysville, CA. 1934
Adolfo de Jesus Constanzo 21 (est.) until 1989 Matamoros, Mexico Matamoros, Mexico "Matamoros Cult Killer"
Larry Eyler 19 1980s Chicago Illinois and Indiana
Huang Yong 17+ 2001-2003 Henan Province, China Henan Province, China Gay. Executed. Murdered boys that he flirted with and picked up at internet cafes. Saved their belts as souvenirs. His 18th victim escaped, leading to his arrest. 1974 26 December 2003
Dennis Nilsen 16 1978-83 U.K. U.K.
Marcelo Costa de Andrade 14 until 1991 Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
William Bonin 12+ 1979-80 Orange County, Calif. Orange County, Calif.
Henry Lee Lucas 12+ 1970s and 80s Most in Texas, Southeastern U.S. 23 August 1936 12 March 2001
Ottis Toole 12+ 1970s and 80s West Coast, Florida, etc. accomplice of Henry Lee Lucas
Vaughn Greenwood 11+ 1974-75 Los Angeles Los Angeles
Richard Speck 8+ 1966 Chicago Chicago married, bisexual
Cayetano Hernandez 8 1963 Yerba Buena, Mexico Mexico
Eleazor Solis 8 1963 Monterey, Mexico Mexico
David Bullock 6+ 1981-82 New York City New York
Vernon Butts 6+ 1979-80 Calif. Orange County, Calif. accomplice of William Bonin
Paul Bateson 6 ? (est.) 1977-78 New York City New York City
Marc Dutroux 6 1995-1996 Belgium Belgium Bisexual. He is unusual among gay serial killers, in that his victims were all girls, who he kidnapped and tortured before killing. One of most notorious serial killers in Belgium's history. 6 November 1956
Michael Terry 6 1980-86 Atlanta Georgia, Ohio, South Carolina
Orville Lynn Majors 6 Indiana Vermillion County Hospital, Indiana
Charles Cohen 5+ Delaware Delaware, San Francisco, New York, Miami, and New Orleans
Arthur Gary Bishop 5 1984 Utah Utah Utah serial killer of young boys. Years before his murder spree, in 1978, he had been excommunicated from the LDS Church. Bishop was an active homosexual and was no longer a member of the LDS Church when he became a serial killer. Executed in Utah State Prison. He said of his crimes, "With great sadness and remorse, I realize that I allowed myself to be misled by Satan. Pornography was not the only negative influence in my life, but its effect on me was devastating. I am a homosexual pedophile convicted of murder, and pornography was a determining factor in my downfall." 1951 10 June 1988
Michael Lupo 4+ 1986 from Italy London
Peter Moore 4 1995 north Wales north Wales
Westley Allan Dodd 3+ Washingon Washington, Oregon
David P. Brown
(a.k.a. Nathaniel Bar-Jonah) 3+ 2000 Massachusetts Montana David Paul Brown. Victims were all young boys. 15 February 1957
Charles Manson 3+ 1968-72 Los Angeles Los Angeles Bisexual. One of nation's most famous serial killers. Murdered actress Sharon Tate, the wife of film director Roman Polanski. Deeply interested in the occult. 12 November 1934
David Edward Maust 5+ 1981; 2003 Germany; Galveston, TX (1981); Hammond, IL (2003) Gay. Killed teenage boys, usually by stabbing 5 April 1954
Bruce Davis 2+ 1968-72 Los Angeles Los Angeles Charles Manson accomplice
Erik Menendez 2 20 August 1989 Beverly Hills, CA Beverly Hills, CA with his straight brother Lyle, Erik killed his parents (Jose Menendez and Kitty Menendez). Their trial was a major national news story. 27 November 1971

Although homosexual murderers of single victims are too numerous to list here, a number of particularly famous ones include: Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb (the wealthy and academically bright gay Chicago couple who murdered a boy in 1924 just for fun; their story became one of the nation's most famous murder cases, and was the basis for many movies, including Hitchcock's film "Rope"); Armin Meiwes (the sexually deviant German cannibal known as "Der Metzgermeister" - The Master Butcher, who met a victim over the Internet who he ate and killed); John E. du Pont (the gay member of the wealthy du Pont famil who shot Olympic wrestler David Schultz to death); Gary Hirte (Waupaca, WI high school senior who admitted to killing 37-year-old substitute teacher Glenn Kopitske); Karla Homolka (Canadian lesbian who murdered her own sister). Other notable gay violent criminals include Kenneth Parnell (paid $500 to "purchase" a young black boy named Steven Stayner, who he then raped and kidnapped); John Wojtowicz (whose bank robbery inspired the movie Dog Day Afternoon).




Serial Killers who were Lesbians
Name # of People
Killed Year Killer's Home Location of Murders Notes
Magdalena Solis 8 1963 Monterey, Mexico Mexico
Aileen Wuornos 7+ 1989-90 south of Daytona, Florida Florida killed male "johns"
Tyria Moore 7+ 1989-90 south of Daytona, Florida Florida killed male "johns"
Catherine Wood 6 Grand Rapids, MI Grand Rapids, MI nurse who killed patients
Gwen Graham 6 Grand Rapids, MI Grand Rapids, MI nurse who killed patients




Why am I not surprised...(sm)

The pub way of thinking on this is to go ahead and let those workers lose their jobs, then save the auto industry, and then they can hire back those workers or others without any job security, benefits, etc...   


Under republican rule, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer (and that obviously hasn't worked out so well).  So, who on this board is getting richer, and if you are getting poorer, can you really afford (financially) to be republican?


Why am I not surprised...(sm)

The pub way of thinking on this is to go ahead and let those workers lose their jobs, then save the auto industry, and then they can hire back those workers or others without any job security, benefits, etc...   


Under republican rule, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer (and that obviously hasn't worked out so well).  So, who on this board is getting richer, and if you are getting poorer, can you really afford (financially) to be republican?


Yes, it surprised me.

Normally, equality (except for Fox) and sense in her posts.


Can't say I'm surprised........... sm
but I do find it a little ridiculous that they would come down on a Bible study group and not the men's Monday night footbal groups or poker night groups or Cub Scout meetings, etc. This is but one more sad example of how our rights are being stripped away little by little. And before anyone says that Christians should meet in churches only, I would ask what will you do when your rights as a citizen are infringed upon?
You would be surprised how much of what you have said I agree with.