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The point....which you missed....in bliss I suppose....

Posted By: sam on 2008-09-16
In Reply to: You really don't have a clue that there's - something seriously wrong with you, do you?

was the comment in disproportionate numbers. There is nothing to support that contention. Obviously there is a problem with pedophilia among priests...but not in any more disproportionate numbers than in the rest of the population. Teachers, coaches, daycare workers and owners..next door neighbors and relatives. THAT was the point.


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I think you missed my point. sm
But I think this points out where the disonnect lies between those who understand the deadly threat of what we are fighting against and those who do not.
And you have missed my point entirely.

Michelle Obama is a career woman herself.  Between her and Obama....they make like 1 million bucks a year.  That isn't all his income....that is hers as well.  She spends time campaigning and traveling to give speeches.  You say SP shouldn't be VP because she has young children.  Here Obama is with young children and nothing is said.  We assume Michelle is with them 24/7.....did Michelle personally call you and tell you that??  I am just saying that this whole argument about not liking SP because she should stay home with her children is just as relevent to argue when it comes to B. Hussein Obama and Michelle Obama and their children.


I refuse to continue to banter back and forth with you about this.  No...I don't know personally if Todd is giving up his career to stay home with the children but I see Michelle doing a he11 of a lot that keeps her away from her and Barry's children. 


You missed the point. I was not just
the people in the path of Ike, I AM in the path of Ike myself. I have small children and animals to worry about and there is no one else but me. You cannot understand what it is like to know that evacuation orders are being called, some voluntary, others mandatory, that the path of the storm changes every 3 or 4 hours and you have to make decisions about whether or not to stay or leave. You either stock up on nonperishibles which go flying off the shelves within hours, board up and hunker down or you board up and get the heck out of Dodge.

All day yesterday and last night, the weather channel was announcing that some mandatory evacs had been called, but NOBODY, including local media outlets, was actually saying which ones they were. My comments were more or less about the lack of media coverage but I am also not apologetic about feeling some resentment toward the herd mentality and worship of one single SKIRT, a word which I intentionally chose because as far as I am concerned, up against 5 million people running for their lives and MY OWN CHILDREN, her comings and goings and all the smut politics that has been surrounding the nonstop media blitz was trivial and insignificant. If it were your home, your car, your chldren and your life, you would get that. What is even more disturbing is the fact that some of you do not even seem to have the capacity to take a single moment out of all this juvenile rhetoric and tit-for-tat outrage to stop and just simply try to put yourselves into somebody elses' shoes. Next to my children, SP is a pipsqueak, a skirt....a NOBODY. Wee needed some HELP and we couldn't get it because of all this stupid nonsense. Don't you get that?
You missed the point....
I really don't care if it offends you. If McCain and Palin were taking donations from Muslim countries, I would say the same thing. I am just not one who cares for all that politically correct garbage. Where does that get us?

Considering Obama's "buddies" in the middle east, wouldn't surprise me at all if he doesn't have all kinds of donations by "questionable" people/terrorists....wonder why they felt the need to lie about their name? If you can't deal with that.....too bad!!!
You have missed my point entirely.
I have no problem with an African-American president if that person is the right person for the job.  I know there were assassination attempts on white presidents obviously as they all have been white...duh!  I'm just saying that there are plenty of crazy whackos out there......just look at the KKK.....who would do anything to not be ruled by a black man.  The KKK is just pure hatred against blacks.  I'm not saying I believe that or agree with that.  I'm just saying that the risk is higher for Obama because of this bigotry.  I do not wish anything bad to happen to Obama so don't play the race card or call me a racist.  I'm just saying that everyone keeps talking about McCain killing over and dying but no one mentions the fact that Obama could very well be assassinated by some crazy-@ssed KKK groupie.
I think you missed the point here.

Of course the economy is important and on everyone's mind right now.  This is the worst economic fiasco since the Great Depression. 


It's not always about the money. 


Yes you missed something. The point!
Oh, self-proclaimed guru of the message boards. Go back to digging up rocks with your husband.
You obviously missed the point. (sm)

While this legislation is targeted at abortion, it doesn't actually say abortion.  It says "procedures."  Given it's broad language it can be translated into any type of procedure.


But lets take this scenario into consideration.  Girl gets pregnant and wants to have the baby.  Girl's health is at risk if she has the baby.  Doctor does not believe in abortion at all, so does not have to give that patient the option of abortion.  Get the picture yet?  It's not all about abortion.  It's about limiting health care in general.


You missed the point.
When was the last time you read an article or saw a photo of W hob-knobbing with the great unwashed?
Yup - missed the point
Didn't expect anything less.
Then you have missed the point entirely

You won't see that kind of thing on those news channels because they don't report black people being racist.  however, if a white person would even hint at something that may be racist even if it is stretching the truth a tad or not......it is reported all over every newspaper, station, etc.  That is the double standard that I am talking about. 


Just like the reverend who prayed at the inauguration and prayed that the white may embrace what is right.  To me that was racist but not one person mentioned it on the news.  I was offended by that.  If that had been a  white pastor saying something like that about the black community.....it would have been all over the news.  Double standards, my friend.....double standards. 


You missed the point - and IF he did we WOULD know
The point was IF Bush was having parties people would have been screaming and shouting (but he wasn't). At least he had the decency not to have frat parties in a building that is supposed to be for someone who is supposed to be a statesman representing our country. Instead now it's a frat/animal house.

Second....you bet we would have known. The liberal nazi media were all over every single thing he did. You bet we would have known.

You all screamed and shouted about the money Bush spent on his inauguration, yet you were perfectly fine with the O outspending him by 3 times as much -

Double standards.
You missed the point - and IF he did we WOULD know
The point was IF Bush was having parties people would have been screaming and shouting (but he wasn't). At least he had the decency not to have frat parties in a building that is supposed to be for someone who is supposed to be a statesman representing our country. Instead now it's a frat/animal house.

Second....you bet we would have known. The liberal nazi media were all over every single thing he did. You bet we would have known.

You all screamed and shouted about the money Bush spent on his inauguration, yet you were perfectly fine with the O outspending him by 3 times as much -

Double standards and disgraceful.
You missed the point....
Considering we have no opposition to alcohol in this country (other than huge taxes on it), why are we so concerned about legalizing marijuana. Either can impair you, driving or otherwise. When we had prohibition, alcohol was still around and there were those that made a killing smuggling that stuff in and selling it. If marijuana were legalized, there wouldn't be a huge black market for it and all the criminal activity it encourages (smuggling)from across the border would go down. We empower the druglords with all this.

Marijuana has shown to have great results for medicinal uses, yet our govt still wants to punish those that use it legitimately. How ludicrous is that? I don't know of anyone with an illness who actually has benefitted from alcohol, other than to just get drunk.

Sure, if legalized, it would be used just like alcohol, as a recreational substance, but it could also be utilized by those with real illnesses that could really benefit from it.
I think you missed the point...(sm)

Wouldn't condoning torture fall into the sin category?  --- which is not something athiests would worry about or preach about.  The obvious point that you are ignoring is the fact that condoning torture by any "christian" is blatent hipocrisy.


You guys are all about being against gay marriage and abortion because it would be a sin, and would like to base laws on these beliefs, but when it comes to torture (also a sin) it's a whole different ballgame. 


I think you've missed the point.
Actually, marriage was originally a prearranged affair based on economics and had nothing to do with love or anything sacred. The point in the parody of the White House *Department of Faith* is that religious extremists fail at their *sacred* marriages (and many other things), yet they critize homosexuals for wanting the equal sacred AND legal protections they enjoy. The hypocrisy is that religious fanatics don't obey their own commandments and teachings of the bible (just like my right-wing reactionary cousin) and yet are ready to condemn everyone else.

Further, your comment about homosexuals dying out because they don't procreate is just plain bizarre. Humans are animals as well and have the same basic instincts (for better and worse) so that some species mate for life as heterosexuals, others are promiscuous, AND some chimps have been studies to be sexual with members of the same gender. Evolution is vast and far-reaching. Given the overpopulation of our planet, I don't think this is something we need to worry about. You almost prove Darwin's theory....do you think homosexuals really *choose* to be homosexual? Why in the world would they want to subject themselves to the homophobia and hatred? Homosexuality was even *gasp* celebrated in ancient Greece.

Oh yeah, and if sex is only for procreation, why do you (at least I assume you do) have a certain body part that plays no role in childbirth whatsoever and is apparently only for pleasure?
You've missed the point, again.
In a rush to be proven right, you missed my point once again. Yes, you can chose them all. It's call peace.

Being pro-choice doesn't mean pro-abortion. You have chosen to speak out and act against abortion because you believe it to be against God's will. Is that ideology so different than other actions undertaken because they felt it was God's will? I don't think I need to list them for you. Most of the horrendous actions against mankind has been at the hands of other men in the name of religion. To me, this is no different.

In so doing, you are taking part in subjugation which is against what the constitution stands for. Correct? Keep it out of the government and keep out of the courts. In needs to be kept at a social level. Educate women against it. Give the women the love and support they need to make the right choice, but you cannot and should not make it for them.

I agree, you do need to adjust your thinking. I do not have intolerance for those who think differently, I have intolerance for those who cannot take another's opinion or perception without tearing it down. Sometimes it pays to be a better listener than a speaker. Tends to the offensive rather than the defensive which seem to be what most of your posts are.

I am officially jumping off this carousel.
You missed the point of the post
I don't care what happened back in June, July or whenever. You just confirmed what I had said in my post and it sounds like you want some "pay back" for whatever you think you want it for. Who knows, and I don't care. My point I was making was I'd like to see positive posts. I'd like to see true discussions about the candidate you favor and why you favor them or don't favor them (and facts to back up your approval or disapproval). Over the past week I've seen hateful posts not only to Sam but to others who don't agree (whether it's for Obama or McCain). All I'm asking is the board to go back to what it was originally meant for...not a "fight club".
Obvoiusly you missed my point . . .
I guess if it was okay to do that on taxpayer's money, she wouldn't be being investigated now, would she?
LOL you missed the entire point...
If saving innocent lives (abortion) is your goal, then MCBUSH is certainly *not* the lesser of two evils because he is CHOMPING at the bit to start MORE fake wars that kill MORE innocent people.

Or as I said before, does it only matter if the "innocent life" being killed is American...?


Are Americans really this stupid they can't see that all these FAKE WAR deplete our own treasury, kil people, and MAKE US MORE ENEMIES??

OR, DO WE have to be brought to our knees by the CIVILIZED portion of the world before we stand up to government that invades innocent countries with OUR money using OUR sons and daughters as cannon fodder?

You must have missed my point, ju ju bean...sm
There is no coverage of "real" conservative economists in the mainstream media who DO NOT support Obama.

I don't have hours and hours to search to find them....but rest assured, they are there, buried amongst the Yes-Men that have climbed aboard the Obama bandwagon.


Like I said, they are not there amongst the mainstream media. The ones that are "AGAINST" Obama's plan.




You people have missed the whole point.
President Obama has not even been president for a week yet and he has an extremely long list of promises that he has made.  Truthfully, there are some promises I don't want him to keep because I don't agree with him.  He just has a lot of live up to because he has promises so much.  I don't expect for him to do everything right away because that is impossible and for you to suggest that I expect this "change" to happen overnight is both stupid and unrealistic.  I was just stating the fact that he has been pres for less than a week, has already broken 2 promises he has made, and has a rather large list of more promises.  It was just an observation.  Don't have a cow.
You missed the point....she was trying to end another's life!
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I am not surprised that you missed my point.

If they have done this with other presidents, fine.  If Obama is the first, it just goes to show the love affair the media, including CNN, has with Obama and the bias they report in his favor.  That was my point and I was trying to be nice in inquiring about whether or not they had done this type of thing with previous presidents, but since you have jumped on me for my post....I'm not going to be nice any more.  I'm tired of the love affair with Obama and the free passes he gets for everything including the obvious and blantant lies that he tells.  Makes me sick. 


The reason people are scrutinizing everything Obama does is because our country is in deep deep doo doo.....if you haven't noticed......and yes this started before Obama's administration but now that he is the big cheese on campus.....it is his time to be observed and if I don't feel that what he is doing is best for our economy and our country, I have a right to say something and express my concerns.  I'm not unpatriotic for disagreeing with him.  I'm not racist for disagreeing with him.  I'm not republican for disagreeing with him. 


Barack Obama is just a man.  He isn't the Messiah like the left try to make him out to be and he isn't the anti-christ like some on the right try to portray him as.....but he is our president and I have a right to voice my opinion on whether or not I think he is doing a good job and quite frankly......I'm not very impressed with him yet.


As for CNN celebrating Obama's 100 days as president....I'm sure they will make him once again look like he does no wrong and he is to be worshiped.  Therefore, I will not be watching it.  I had enough of the sickening adoration of him during the inaguration.  I am proud that our country has looked past the prejudice of skin to elect the first African American president, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized and questioned just like every other president that has ever been in office.  This is our country and we have a right to question what he does if we disagree with him.  I don't have a problem with an African American as president.....I just don't think Barack Obama was the right guy for the job.


And quite honestly....I'd be just as disgusted by this if this was the first 100 days of Hillary's presidency because there are a lot of things I don't agree with her on either.  So spare me!


I think you've missed the point....again..(sm)
Believe me, we know what Rush is, that he doesn't hold any office and is simply a poor entertainment choice.  We've been saying that for years.  It's not the dems who give him more credibility than he deserves, it's the pubs.  Why else would elected republican officials have to stoop to kiss his behind and apologize for disagreeing with him, and even get fired as in the instance above?  The dems have no misconceptions about Rush's role.  We just find it amusing that the pubs can't seem to figure it out.
What are you saying, death threats are okay? you missed the point
completely, that is utter ridiculousness. the poster meant I think people at McCain's rallies are calling for Obama's death - are you going to stick with that thought, that he should be able to take it? Could not disagree with you more
You missed the point - go figure (see message)
The point was that a President must pass a background check with the FBI - has nothing to do with applying to work for the FBI. He can't pass a basic background check (oh yeah, I feel real safe with him that close to the "launch" button).

So, he can't pass a background check and he is not American born and he's getting a free pass...go ahead make him president. Maybe his cabinet people will be Ahmandinejab, Mohammar Kadafi, Castro, Kim Jong iL, etc. Plus the others he'll form back up with (Ayers & Wright) - after all it will be too late by then.
you missed the point of the original post
The supreme court has not ordered him to produce the original; they are simply reviewing the lower court's ruling regarding Berg bringing the suit in the first place. There is no order to produce the document. This is simply a measure that Berg and the other attorneys requesting the writ are now hoping will bring pressure on the electors to force them to demand the document be presented. But at this point there is no order to produce.
You're obviously one who has missed his entire point
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You completely missed the point didn't ya? And where
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bliss?

Do you conduct your entire life with blinders on?


Obviously you know little (more like nothing) about Chicago politics and its incredibly powerful machine.  Granted, I wouldn't have, but one of my sisters lives there and has literally wailed about the corruption, dead voters, sky-high taxes, etc. for over 20 years. 


Ignorance is bliss....
....as the saying goes, however, in the Obama posting above it's more like ignorance equals hatred and intolerance.  I personally think this country really really needs someone like Obama desperately.  We are, after all, a melting pot of races, cultures and religions, not a country run solely by rich white men with laws created to help the rich white men get even richer.
Right, ignorance is bliss for some.
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Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

Just take a look at this administration. 


Give up on trying to reason with this MT person.  When she still doesn't get it - even when her actual words are presented to her - this is not a normal mind. 


Heard the saying, "Ignorance is bliss"?
It's good to have a positive attitude, but the idea that one man has the power to "change" the country for better or worse is just naive. As the posters below said, it's time to stop depending on government and start being responsible for ourselves. Realistically, 2009 is going to be tough, and I wish everyone good luck.
Exactly! ..and ignorance is bliss to those O lovers
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I guess ignorance is bliss.

That is all I can say for you liberals.  The evidence is right in front of you and instead of seeing Obama for what he is.....all you can do is praise and worship him and call us names and make fun of Fox News.  I guess whatever makes you feel good in your liberal bubble but even your little world of blissful ignorance......things will eventually come crashing down whether you choose to believe it or not.  Our country is headed in the wrong direction and Obama spews one lie after another. 


Ignorance is bliss for those folks ya know!!!
nm
Ignorance is bliss. Better wake up and smell
nm
Your ignorance must be bliss....go ahead and vote democrat then.

Why do you suppose
that Hillary Clinton and John McCain dropped the birth certificate issue.  Why do you suppose the media dropped it?  I do not believe that those of you keeping this issue going on this forum are medical transcriptionists, thus you should  not be allowed to post to a MT forum unless you provide documentnation that you are qualified as a medical transcriptionist. 
I don't suppose...(sm)
you have a source for that claim?
I suppose the Congressional
Saturday, August 14, 2004

Study: Tax burden growing heavier for middle class

Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- President Bush’s tax cuts since 2001 have shifted more of the tax burden from the nation’s rich to middle-class families, according to a study released Friday by the Congressional Budget Office.

The tax rate declined across all income levels -- but more so in the top brackets, the report said.

People in the top 20 percent of incomes, averaging $182,700 a year, saw their share of federal taxes decline from 65.3 percent of total payments in 2001 to 63.5 percent this year, according to the study by congressional budget analysts.

In contrast, middle-class taxpayers -- with incomes ranging from $51,500 to $75,600 -- bear a greater tax burden. Those making an average of $75,600 had the biggest jump in their share of taxes, from 18.5 percent of all payments in 2001 to 19.5 percent this year.

The study, requested by congressional Democrats in May, is expected to provide fodder for the presidential campaign over the fairness of more than $1 trillion in tax cuts Bush has pushed through Congress since taking office.

“George W. Bush keeps trying to mislead Americans into thinking we’re turning the corner, but truth is that he is turning his back on middle-class families,” Kerry spokesman Phil Singer said. “The Bush policies are exacerbating the squeeze that working families have been feeling for the last four years.”

Bush-Cheney campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said, “Because of President Bush’s policies every American pays less in taxes today than they did before he became president...John Kerry has promised to raise taxes during the campaign. That is the clear choice Americans will have in the fall elections.”

The study found that the effective tax rate for the top 1 percent of taxpayers dropped from 33 percent in 2001 to 26.7 percent this year, a decline of 19 percent. The middle 20 percent of taxpayers saw a decline of 4 percent.

The study is based on figures in 2001 and assumes no changes in wealth distribution from increases in income, dividends or capital gains.

On the Net:

Congressional Budget Office: www.cbo.gov


I suppose my question is. sm
Why do we pick and choose who we help and which cause is noble?  We ignored Rwanda, many  many more people dead than in Darfur and in a much shorter time. Many more hundreds of thousands maimed.  Not a peep out of UN or US.  Darfur has become a Hollywood cause as well.  Where was Hollywood during Rwanda?  I don't get it.
I suppose you'd rather we keep punishing ourselves?

Punishing Americans with higher and higher healthcare costs because we give it free to indigent illegals, hospitals and ERs are forced to take them, then write them off and raise their prices to us, because we don't qualify under our own social programs!  We should deprive ourselves and give to them because we care more about their "poor little baby" than our own?  Charity should begin at home, and until it does, I don't give a hoot in Hades about some illegal's maternity problems!  My conscience is clear about whatever happens to those babies because I didn't get knocked up with them!  Indigent irresponsible women who pop out babies like Pez are the real punishers of babies - I'm all about FREE birth control, how about you?  I wanna know why YOU care about her babies at the expense of American babies and senior citizens who are forced to choose between food and medication each month - how's your conscience about that?


spoken by someone who KNOWS, I suppose....
so sorry I am not up on methods of drug delivery. Sorry. It was cocaine my mistake. He snorted cocaine. He called it "blow" in his book. So I stand corrected...Obama snorted COCAINE, not CRACK. Make you feel better????
I suppose it depends on who says it...sm
If she said it referring to herself....who cares.

If someone says it about Sarah Palin.....who cares, it will bounce off, as she is neither of those words.


What about when Obama talked about all the small town bitter people holding on to their guns and religion, in his San Francisco speech?

Was that bad? I think it was, and he disenfranchised a whole group of voters, to this day, who would not consider voting for him....

That is perhaps, the phrase that deRothchild was comparing to...not sure, but perhaps...



Sooooo.....to answer your question? which word is worse? Well, both of them are, and there's been plenty of name calling lately. It's getting tiresome, really.


Petty, spiteful, little name calling, which has run entirely too rampant lately in the media, not to mention on this board from time to time.


Might just be very very tired, I suppose.

Beyond this board, what do you suppose
E-C-O-N-O-M-Y. How does it feel to be constantly running away from your own candidate's inept, vacuous dirth of effective policy initiatives while people are losing their jobs, their homes and their life savings? Please explain to me just how all this Obama trashing is addressing the problem you have with a cowardly candidate who by his own admission does not understand econmics and will stoop lower than the stock market plunge to be elected? A better example of "country last" could not be found. If this is any indication of how a McCain administration behaves in a crisis, we can all look forward to a landslide for Democrats across the board. T-minus 25 and counting.
I suppose you are anti-gun as well.
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Seriously. Why do you suppose women
The onus of birth control is not gender specific. My own son learned this lesson when he was 9 years old when his only cousin was diagnosed with HIV. He takes precautions and asks the right questions. He does not have sex with women who are not willing to show him the pill or discuss openly with him how they would respond to an unwanted pregnancy...and he makes his own views plainly known in no uncertain terms...that he does not feel he is ready for the responsibilities of fatherhood and that he ALSO has the right to make this decision without moral persecution.

Most women share the news of a pregnancy with the father in the hopes that he will take on the responsibilities of fatherhood. The ones who do not more than likely already know what the answer will be. Unwanted pregnancies have a way isolating the mother, blaming her for having gotten pregnant in the first place in much the same way you have inferred in your parting shot (as though the father has suddenly become canceled out of the equation) and giving all sorts of folks license to condemn and weigh in on the decision. In the event that support is forthcoming, most women WILL have the child more often than not.