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I did change the channel -seeing the dislike

Posted By: me on 2009-04-03
In Reply to: ROFL.....(sm) - Just the big bad

on all the channels except on the Communist News Network who's too busy commenting on what M.O. is wearing, and I turned MSLSD off totally along time ago when they were only showing the love affair many Americans have with him. No news found there.

You should go to the other channels and you too would see the people of other countries telling of their dislike for the annointed one.


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I actually dislike him because we have...
a fundamental difference in views. I actually find it interesting that the same people who spend years bashing Bush all of he sudden believe that nobody should EVER say one thing negative regarding Obama. the facts are that, so far, he has done exactly what I feared he would do. As far as the captain's rescue, do I really believe that it was Obama's plan carried out--come on, that is just silly. The Navy took care of that. Credit to the CNO, possibly, but Obama, no.
This is what I dislike about Bush.

His arrogance. 


He's a man who knows America does not support his policies and he still flicks us off, even his those within his party who disagree.  *It comes with the territory,* he says still wearing that ridiculous smile.  Now that the unpatriotic threats are not as potent as they used to be, all he can do to save what face he has with the 32% who still think he's doing a good job is say that he is steadfast in his beliefs.  That'll make the 32% proud, but what does it mean. 


Would you rather have a president who


a) Is intelligent enough to reevaluate the situation he has created and think maybe, just maybe I screwed up and is willing to consider other solutions, change the course?


OR


b) One who is willing to stay the course, even if it is a course of failure.  Just for the sake of doing what he said he was going to do and a *to hell with what Americans think about me* attitude.  Can not be convinced in any shape, form or fashion that he has made a mess and may need to go on to plan B, probably because he doesn't have a plan B?


Which one?


Oh, and to the 68% who don't approve, in laymen's terms I think he's saying *screw you,* but that's just my interpretation.


I reall dislike this: When somebody is cornered,
and runs out of counter attacks, then the discussion derails and the insults start, like

Grow up!
Get a life!
Don't you have nothing better to do?
Educate yourself!
Brush up your computer skills!
Shut up!

Etc....

I stay on this board because sometimes one can really broaden one's knowledge, one gets good tips and hints, it's educational (in some way), it's entertaining, so, all in all, a good thing, especially if one is on vacation, like I now.












I don't think it is an option - I think it is obvious they dislike each other immensely! nm
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I guess you dislike intelligent answers
Sam has some of the most intelligent, rational, thought-out answers I've seen on this board - unlike those who just want to post how this one is a joke or this other one is a jerk. Or the ones who immediately resort to name-calling and cursing.
Change and Hope: Obama wants your change and hopes you enjoy starving.... sm
...while he's partying like a rock star with the glitterati.

Meanwhile, some little old lady is hoping he doesn't get a dog and sends her the dog food instead.
Yes, they're all nuts. The change they'll get is not the change they thought

I want change. Chump change. I'm voting for Obama as far as the pollsters go.

Obama is change you can believe in until you have to take it to the bank.


Our jobs have been offshored until now because of greed.  Under Obama and his taxation of small businesses, they will be offshored not because of greed but because of survival.  


You could make a difference for our country by not voting for Obama, but instead, if you vote for him, you are selling out to deception.  You are embracing a socialist, a communist, a Marxist, a liar, a cheat, and someone who legally cannot run as President of the U.S., much less the Illinois senate.  But, you make your choice.  You believe the consumate liar and his lies who sat for 20 years under the teachings of a black racist preacher filled with hatred for the U.S., whose association with Bill Ayers is recent and documented down to the fact that Ayers himself wrote Obama's best-selling book (best-selling in the eyes of far left liberals that is), who is a documented member of the socialist party, whose friends and close allies are extremists who not only bomb innocent people and are unrepenetent but who intend to eliminate (kill) 25 million Americans who they cannot "re-educate" in communist ideaology (gosh dog it, those dreadful capitalists), who refuses to hand over a certified copy of his birth certificate and educational records (my goodness, don't you have to provide your birth certificate to any number of entities who want to know if you are legal, i.e., social security, DMVs, etc., and your educational records would show if you had received aid as a foreigner and in 1963 would have shown you were a negro instead of an African-American which Obama's falsified record shows, please speck up on history), and who thinks Joe the Plumber is so stupid not to realize that if he wants to achieve the American dream, he is going to achieve it only if he lets Obama take what he makes to give to those WHO WILL NOT WORK.  I'd like to see you, liberals, give a share of your 7.5 cpl to those who don't work as hard as you, but then with Obama, that's what you will have to do.  Don't be fooled by his rhetoric that only those making over $250,00 will be taxed.  We will all be taxed, and there will be no incentive to work for any of us because we will all have to give up a piece of our pie so those who do not work can have a piece of our pie.


Here is the dividing line, folks.  We are at a crossroads in our history.  The Lord Jesus puts it this way, "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction; and there are many who go in by it."


Choose which gate you enter, the wide or the narrow.  It not only determines your eternal destination, but it determines the destination of this country.  If anyone here calls themself a Christian and can vote for Osambo, I daresay you are a liar and cheat just as he.  One cannot be a Christian and vote for a party and a political candidate who is in total rebellion to God's Word.  That is a fact, and if you think any differently, then you, too, like the Obamanation, call God a liar.  May He have mercy upon your soul.  As He makes the rain fall on the just and the unjust because He is no respector of persons, we will all suffer as this country is destroyed and our Constitution that guarantees our freedoms is trampled just as Bill Ayers is pictured standing upon our flag in total disrespect, and we will thank you liberals that we are all in bondage, reduced to third world status, just as the Israelites were in Egypt.  Only Obama ain't no Moses but a Muslim and has no favor with God, and there will be no one to lead us to the Promised Land coming from the Democratic party. 


 


Who is *they*, where did you see it, what channel? NM
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What channel does SNL come on?
I don't think I can watch it, I don't get any local channels :(

Stupid Directv! LOL
He DID? What channel was it on?
PROOF, please.
Really? What channel? nm
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I agree with change....change to socialism...
NO THANKS.
the are a NEWS channel

it's kinda to pre-record live news coverage.  Probably nothing major will happen today, but who knows?  Your scraping the bottom by criticizing a live news channel for having live coverage.


 


SP is not on every channel, watch
BTW, hope you and your loved ones will be safe. I am sure I would be terrified. I just saw the latest news, though, and it states the hurricane is currently aimed more south... Brownsville, Corpus Christi.  When did it change direction??
I just watched whatever channel it is that has
channel working on my TV tonight. (No cable). Coverage seemed pretty unbiased, each person had their say, no eye-rolling by commentators or anything along those lines. I thought it was pretty good for a first debate. Not enough nuts 'n' bolts for me on either side, but ah, well. Hopefully that'll come later.
Do you only have 1 channel in your home?
Do you live out in the sticks? Nothing but just the local channels? Why cant you change the channel that you have or just turn the frik… television off. If I don’t like a program off it goes. So simple.
You must not watch much on the History channel. sm
When Eisenhower liberated the Jews in the concentration camps in Germany, he made the surrounding townspeople walk through to see what they had done.  Many of them worked in the camps.  Do you think that only Hitler was behind killing all the Jews? I want to live in your world!  But of course, not all Germans were in on the killing.  However, most of them knew and that makes them complicit in my book.  I won't address the bigotry remark because it's just silly.  How about joining in some debate instead of getting all emotional?
Hannity is just one person on the channel...
not the whole channel. Keith Olbermann rants like a loon sometimes, almost to the point of drooling, but as long as he is bashing a conservative people love him. Every channel has their talking over obnoxious commentator. It is all about what Keith thinks, what his opinion is, and rarely is there a point. It could be said about any commentator. Still, if I want to see a Dem and a Repub in a split screen where the commentator says OUT of it and lets them have their say and does not allow them to talk over one another...Fox is my only choice. I have seen Fox cut the mikes on both sides if the pundit would not stop talking over the other. I have NEVER seen anyone cut Olbermann's mike. He does not even try to hide his contempt for anyone who does not share his view. You don't like Hannity, i don't like Olbermann. The difference is...if I want to hear a conservative viewpoint at ALL, Fox is my only choice. That is a fact. And why people are so against letting both sides have their say, and want to tear the hide of Fox in strips because they lean conservative when all the other outlets fall off the slide to the left...what does that say about those people? What kind of people want to silence all opposition? What is happening to this country?
Comcast has it as "HN" channel 25 (sm)

I wrote down what I could fast!


The Arrows: Wieden and Smith from Oregon wanted this.


Film & TV Production: $10M. Sherman and Schiff from (where else?) California.


Exxon Valdez earmark: Young Alaska


Mental Health: Ramstad.


Rum: Businesses - Baccardi and others.


Racing: NASCAR


The Samoa debacle: WHO ELSE BUT PELOSI!!!!


What a ripoff. These were put in to sway the votes. Politics as usual.


The History Channel programs are

often very factual. I watch it a lot.


I would love to see the John Adams program but I gave up HBO. They didn't seem to have very good programming for a long time, movie-wise, and a lot of the series were on too late for me, so I gave HBO up (after 15 years).


 


 


 


The history channel lies? Really?....LOL (nm)


channel 2 reported on recruiters tactics
Channel 2 did a bit on their nightly news.  I believe it was a college paper reporter who went undercover and told the recruiters he had done drugs and other things that would have disqualified him and the recruiters were salivating at the thought of signing him up and told him ways to get into the service even though. These recruiters would take a dead man if his body was still warm, for pete sake.  I say, you need people in the military, check out the people in the administration, ask if their children will join for the *better good of all to bring democracy to the world*.
Has Fox News Channel declared a War on Christmas?
Let's see.....

MSNBC stopped live broadcasting early, as did CNN. (They must want the majority of their employees to celebrate CHRISTMAS at HOME with their families.)

Fox News Channel, on the other hand, is broadcasting LIVE on Christmas Day and continuing to spread their Bush is wonderful and broke no laws gospel.

I wonder if Gibson and O'Liely will expose Fox's blatant war on Christmas!!

AHAAAAAA HAAAAA - Foot channel - my bad
Gosh that was way too funny. I'm about peeing my pants laughing.

Good to have a cat fight again. Waaarrrrr (or as my cat says when she sees other cats - hsssss.....hssssss....hssssss)
On 2/16 on history channel a program about Lincoln
Think its called Stealing Lincolns body. Looks interesting.

I'll be sure to watch this one tonight. I saw it advertised the other night when I was watching Sense and Sensibility.
Stop getting your info from the history channel....
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He was on the weather channel (his speeches were) constantly on the weekend. BUT SM
I am probably lying.
mmmm....and in 4 years I'll have to subscribe to the weight watcher channel
If they have one.
DEFINITELY Change!
We have seen where experience gets us!!!! Look at it like this...
How many of you have ever worked a job before and your "boss" (with experience) knows a LOT less about the job than you do?! Bet you all never thought of it like that, huh?!
EXACTLY! And now we have someone who wants to change all that...
and only one side is even TALKING about it. That is the side getting my vote. And this post illustrates the problem with your side..."Repugnants." How is that productive? Zero! What crossing party lines have Dems done? Zero! It should stop on both sides, but the bitterness for whatever reason you see in the Dems on this board apparently is rampant throughout the country, one only has the read the blogs. It is just beyond ridculous, beyond childish, and until our elected leaders can move past it, we are stuck to repeat the same old mistakes over and over and over. One ticket is talking about changing that stagnant swamp in Washington, that is McCain/Palin, and that is one of the reasons I am voting that ticket this time around. They get it.
so much for change....nm
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Change
8 years of a Republican president is enough, change is needed. America is in a very bad state.
Maybe you should change...
your name to "Mar Tar."
CHANGE, YES, CHANGE -- we need O to take the
to all the deadbeats who don't wanna work. 
The new change

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iRxZox4GFoIweckPDP1oRhKBlHOwD94CCDU00


This is what I am talking about.  Somebody from the INSIDE, a congressman sees our new change coming.  This is NOT THE CHANGE I opted for. 


From Change.gov
Create a Civilian Assistance Corps (CAC): Obama and Biden will create a national CAC of 25,000 personnel. This corps of civilian volunteers with special skill sets (doctors, lawyers, engineers, city planners, agriculture specialists, police, etc.) would be organized to provide each federal agency with a pool of volunteer experts willing to deploy in times of need at home and abroad.


As far as CD in general, you seriously do not think that we as citizens should be prepared for what to do in the event of a major disaster or, heaven forbid, another terrorist attack?
the change who wants??
that remains to be seen, I think. I am not so sure it is the change I want. Actually, I'm not so sure it is change. Shall we not just wait and see instead of speculating?
Duh, in trying to change
 it to many more, I managed to say 'much many'.  Think that'll catch on?
This would not change...(sm)
a "christian marriage."  Unless, of course, you can show me where in the bible it says anything about legal benefits that come with marriage?
He said what he said! You cant change that.
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At least it SHOULD be, for a change!

change is gonna come
I gotta tell ya, I dont believe it is true.  I live in an extremely republican conservative bible belt air force area (what the heck am I doing here..smile) and the democrat party through the 1990s was doing okay but the republican party sure was flourishing.  I have seen through the 2000s the democratic party has grown quite a bit and more people moving into this rural area are signing on to the democratic party.  We also have a lot of unions here, Farm Workers and such as this is a major area where immigrant workers pick crop year round.  Well, the unions have pushed for the democratic party and its working.  This reminds me of the 1990s with Newt Gingrich, he was gonna change America.  Well he is no where now.  Americans might be apolitical most of the time but when they get fed up, they get fed up and they vote their frustration and with this administration, there is so much distrust, knowlege that Bush lied about war and our brave military has paid the price, the deficit will affect my children and my childrens children, the policies he has passed do not benefit me or the working class, only the corporations.  Change is gonna come..its frustrating waiting for the change but its gonna come.
Some things never change...

War Crimes Even Helen Keller Could See
By Mickey Z.

In a textbook example of whitewashing, if today's America knows Helen Keller (1880-1968) at all, it's the easy-to-digest image portrayed in the 1962 film, 'The Miracle Worker.' Brave deaf and blind girl 'overcomes' all obstacles to inspire everyone she meets. 'The Helen Keller with whom most people are familiar is a stereotypical sexless paragon who was able to overcome deaf-blindness and work tirelessly to promote charities and organizations associated with other blind and deaf-blind individuals,' writes Sally Rosenthal in Ragged Edge.

But, in 1909, Helen Keller became a socialist. Soon after, she emerged as a vocal supporter of the working class and traveled the nation to voice her opposition to war. 'How can our rulers claim they are fighting to make the world safe for democracy,' she asked, 'while here in the U.S. Negroes may be massacred and their property burned?' Of course, as a woman with disabilities, she was patronized by the same mainstream media that previously championed her as a heroine. The editors of the Brooklyn Eagle wrote: 'Her mistakes spring out of the manifest limitations of her development.'

Keller minced no words in her responses...one of which appeared in newspapers across America: 'So long as I confine my activities to social services and the blind, the newspapers compliment me extravagantly, calling me an 'arch-priest of the sightless' and 'wonder woman'. But when I discuss poverty and the industrial system under which we live that is a different matter.'

As the militaristic frenzy spread across America, Keller appeared at New York City's Carnegie Hall on January 5, 1916. 'I have a word to say to my good friends, the editors, and others who are moved to pity me,' she said. 'Some people are grieved because they imagine I am in the hands of unscrupulous persons who lead me astray and persuade me to espouse unpopular causes and make me the mouthpiece of their propaganda. Now, let it be understood once and for all that I do not want their pity; I would not change places with one of them. I know what I am talking about. My sources of information are as good and reliable as anybody else's. I have papers and magazines from England, France, Germany and Austria that I can read myself. Not all the editors I have met can do that. Quite a number of them have to take their French and German second hand. No, I will not disparage the editors. They are an overworked, misunderstood class. Let them remember, though, that if I cannot see the fire at the end of their cigarettes, neither can they thread a needle in the dark. All I ask, gentlemen, is a fair field and no favor. I have entered the fight against preparedness and against the economic system under which we live. It is to be a fight to the finish, and I ask no quarter.'

Keller's critique of the government propaganda campaign to stir up Americans to support U.S. intervention in the war remains more germane than ever. 'Every modern war has had its root in exploitation' Keller said. 'The Civil War was fought to decide whether the slaveholders of the South or the capitalists of the North should exploit the West. The Spanish-American War decided that the United States should exploit Cuba and the Philippines. The South African War decided that the British should exploit the diamond mines. The Russo-Japanese War decided that Japan should exploit Korea. The present war is to decide who shall exploit the Balkans, Turkey, Persia, Egypt, India, China, Africa. And we are whetting our sword to scare the victors into sharing the spoils with us. Now, the workers are not interested in the spoils; they will not get any of them anyway.'

She urged workers-the ones who do the fighting and dying-to strike at the heart of America's drive toward war. 'Strike against war, for without you no battles can be fought,' she declared. 'Strike against preparedness that means death and misery to millions of human beings. Be not dumb, obedient slaves in an army of destruction. Be heroes in an army of construction.'

Excerpted from the soon-to-be-released '50 American Revolutions You're Not Supposed to Know: Reclaiming American Patriotism.' 


Not yet but you're trying to change that.

LOL, well some things never change. SM
Sounded to me like you said VN and Korea were civil wars, but it must be a Republican thang! 
I need to change tactics...

I should probably refrain from any dialogue and perhaps just correct posts that are obviously erroneous (like the one about poverty in the U.S.).  Correcting factual errors on their posts would probably be a full time job.  Besides I enjoy the research and learn lots!!


Thanks for reading and thanks for your comments.


Nothing will change your mind but others should know.
Africentric church
A visit to Chicago's Trinity UCC
by Jason Byassee

One of the brightest points in Barack Obama's rising political star has been his ability to talk about Jesus without faking it. Beginning with his rousing "Audacity of Hope" speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention and continuing with his book of the same name, Obama has shown that he can speak about his Christian faith in ways that are authentic and broadly appealing.

Little wonder that his enemies have tried to turn that strength into a liability. Right-wing bloggers and TV pundits have been targeting Obama's church, Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, and its pastor, Jeremiah Wright, complaining that its self-proclaimed Africentric Christianity is separatist or even racist. Obama's campaign has itself pulled back a bit from being identified with Wright. In February it revoked an invitation to have him give the opening prayer when Obama announced his run for the presidency.

Africentrism (that's the term Trinity prefers to Afrocentrism) is wholeheartedly embraced at Trinity. One of the church's mottos is "Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian." Its choir is regularly decked out in brightly colored African dress, as is Wright when he preaches. The church emphasizes its connection to the African diaspora: it sponsors trips to western and southern Africa, the Caribbean, and Latin American countries with significant African populations. Julia Speller, a leader at Trinity and author of Walkin' the Talk: Keepin' the Faith in Africentric Congregations, notes in her book that the church offers courses in Swahili and that its youth programs, Intonjane and Isuthu, take their names from Swahili words for coming into manhood and womanhood. The congregation celebrates the Kwanzaa holiday and Umoja Karamu, a Thanksgiving Day service that narrates the story of the black family from its West African origins to today with dancing, drumming and storytelling.

Bible courses at Trinity emphasize the African roots of Christianity, focusing on the account of the Exodus and such passages as the psalmist's promise that Ethiopia would stretch out its hands to God (Ps. 68:31), and the conversion of the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8. In his preaching Wright goes out of his way to describe Moses as "an African prince" and his wife as a "raven-black" beauty. He declares that Jesus himself had "nappy hair" and "bronze skin" (he cites Rev. 1:14-15). Otis Moss III, who will succeed Wright upon his retirement this summer, says that the church is proud of its "Africanity," proud that "when we talk about Sudan, we have Sudanese present."

African Americans have generated distinctly black forms of Christianity since they arrived on these shores. The significance of these forms has been appreciated in mainline seminaries and churches for at least two generations. Trinity is well within the mainstream of the black church, and is remarkable in the mainline world only for its size and influence and for its handful of celebrity members, like Oprah Winfrey and hip-hop artist Common.

Critics have pounced especially on the church's "Black Value System," by which members affirm their commitment to God, the "black community," the "black family" and the "black work ethic," and disavow "the pursuit of 'middle-classness.'" One hatchet-job report in Investor's Business Daily, pointing to the Black Value System (a statement written not by Wright but by church members in the early 1980s), concluded that there is "little room for white Christians at Obama's church." Black conservative pundit Erik Rush said the church has embraced "things African above things American," and he claimed that this should be as alarming as a Republican presidential candidate "belonging to the Aryan Brethren Church of Christ." Tucker Carlson of MSNBC described Trinity as having a "racially exclusive theology" that "contradicts the basic tenets of Christianity." Sean Hannity of Fox News confronted Wright on TV and asked how a black value system is any more acceptable than a white value system. Hannity also suggested that Trinity's emphasis on black values contradicts Martin Luther King's famous hope that people would be judged "not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

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Not afraid of change...
It's not the change that scares me, but the fact that my money will be going to pay for someone else to have something I can barely afford for my own family. Already too much of it goes for that - think foreigners that get Medicaid to pay for all of their doctor visits. And yes, lots of legitimate claims are being denied, but do you think that's going to change when the government has thier hands in it? That's what's really scary. I don't even trust the government with the money they already get from me - what's going to happen when they get more, and more power to boot? The insurance industry needs a complete overhaul, that I agree with, but as far as letting politicians take over? I'm thinking that's not really the best plan.
Change....away from NeoCons.
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Hope, Change....

If Barack Obama is a reformer, he could be the first one ever to become President of the United States having done almost nothing different in the name of reform.  Consider:  What has really changed?  In a positive way? 


He did not change politics in Chicago.  By endorsing crooked machine politicians who reward their campaign donors and door-knockers with a government salary.  By backing a mayor whose aids and appointees sell city contracts in exchange for campaign contributions.  By endorsing an alderman who pulls a gun on her colleagues.  By failing to endorse the rare candidate who has a chance to win and change something in Cook County.  By covering up the excesses of the Chicago Teachers Union, knowing just how abysmal the city's public education is.  By earmarking funds for a radical Catholic priest who ecourages blacks to hate whites.


Obama did not change politics in Springfield.  You can't reform a state like Illinois by voting present 130 times to avoid controversial issues.  By teaming up with a state Senate Majority Leader whose main concern appears to be placing every member of his family somewhere on the state payroll.  By backing for statewide office a financier whose family bank lends money to organized crime.  By negotiating to minimize the impact of welfare reform.  By writing letters to get state grants for someone who just paid you $112,000.   By co-sponsoring nearly any bill that helps Tony Rezko and his friends make money from taxpayers for building uninhabitable slums where rodents roam and sewage backs up in kitchen sinks (Obama said he did not know the condition of the buildings; however, all reside in his senate district and it had been well reported in the media). 


Obama has certainly not changed politics in Congress.  You can't reform Washington by earmarking a million dollars for your wife's employer after they double her salary (this can be verified on line...I was amazed!!...if I were him I would back off the earmarks thing and lamblasting Sarah Palin...this one could come back to bite him big time).  By voting to throw away money on ethanol, farm subsidies, and the Bridge to Nowhere while much of New Orleans was still under water.  By reaching across the aisle on ethics reform, only to pull your hand back and bury it in your pocket.  By earmarking funds for your campaign contributors.  By suddenly deciding its time to leave Iraq when you start running for President.


It's not that Barack Obama is a bad person.  It's just that he's like all the rest of them.  Not a reformer.  Not a Messiah.  Just like all the rest of them in Washington.  Just like all the other liberals. Well, that is not entirely true. Most liberals in Congress know more about foreign policy and how diplomacy works than Obama.  And most of them, nearly ALL of them...believe that babies born alive have a right to medical care.


Obama's radical ties don't make him a radical.  His ties to Communists don't make him a Communist.  His ties to a terrorist don't make him a terrorist.  But his continued relationships throughout his public life show an important influence in his public career.  What ideas are so important to Barack Obama that he desperately seeks the approval of Black Commentator and the New Party, but drops the Democratic Leadership Council as it if were a molten porcupine?


These connections do not disqualify Obama from the presidency.  But they do raise questions about his judgment.  By what criteria does a man choose his friends and end up with the likes of Tony Rezko,Jeremiah Wright, and Bill Ayers?  How does he choose his advisors and end up with people who chat with terrorists, advocate reparations for slavery, and praise Hugo Chavez a a champion of democracy?


What sort of nominations does such a man make as President?  What kind of diplomacy does he pursue, give that so much of diplomacy consists of reading, understanding, and judging others' intentions and character?


That is why these ties deserve scrutiny.  If Barack Obama becomes President, his good judgment, or the lack thereof, will affect the entire country.


--From "The Case Against Barack Obama"