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I don't make the rules, Sir Percy. The Administrator was. The fact is. sm

Posted By: BuckeyeLil (Moderator) on 2006-03-13
In Reply to: Why, so we can be sure to be divided? - Sirpercy

I agree with you.  But this board has a history and as you can see, on both boards, the minute an opposing point of view comes on board, the moderators are summoned.  It's a fact.  This used to be a combined board but it was separated because of constant insults and failure to behave as mature adults. 


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The fact that an article was written does not make it fact. I hope you know that. nm
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He can't make rules by himself....obviously the rest of the...
legislature must have agreed with him. Again I ask you...if it happened in YOUR family, would you not use every means at your disposal to help your family member get the help they needed?
Seems he likes to make up the rules as he goes along (sm)
You know, like a child playing a board game changes the rules all the way through to make sure he or she will win? If he was going to improve his aquaintances he should have done that a loooong time ago. Not right now before the election, looks kinda....fishy.
You just make this up as you go along. There is no basis in fact to anything you say!

She didn't make it up. In fact, it's not the first time

these domestic terrorists bought an abortion clinic.  Now, they "need a bigger office."


Operation Rescue president Troy Newman said that his group has discussed the idea of buying the tan, windowless clinic in east Wichita. He made the comment after the Tiller family announced that the clinic would be closed permanently.

"I would love to make an offer on that abortion clinic, and that's some of the discussion that we're having," Newman said in a telephone interview Tuesday from his group's headquarters in Wichita.

Tiller was shot May 31 while serving as an usher at his church. Scott Roeder, a 51-year-old Kansas City, Mo., resident, has been charged with first-degree murder and aggravated assault.

Tiller attorney Dan Monnat declined to discuss Newman's suggestion.
"I'm just not going to respond to every irreverent publicity stunt or comment by these extremists," Monnat said.

Newman's group bought another former abortion clinic in Wichita in 2006 for its headquarters, but he said the group needs to expand. "We need a bigger office," he said.


 
Balance at:  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/10/national/main5079658.shtml?source=RSSattr=U.S._5079658


Oh, I see now that was to Sir Percy. sm
My eyes are playing tricks on me :)
I agree with you Sir Percy. sm
I read your responses on the conservative board too and I like your way of thinking.

Even though things can get out of hand with insults when the boards mix, I personally over the years have learned a lot by debating conservatives, the respectful ones. It seemed to me though some of the conservatives were determined not to come to any common ground with us liberals. And I'm guilty of that too to a certain extent. When I'm passionate about an issue there's no room to waver.

What we all need though is to realize this is not a game. These politicians especially need to realize this. That's the ones with an ounce of integrity. It's not about who wins or loses. Because if either side loses, we all do, so finding common ground is important.

My moniker is Democrat to #1. Be consistent and #2. Because I have been a registered Democrat since I could vote. That doesn't mean I have never voted for a republican congressman that I respected or thought was the beter candidate. There are some issues I am conservative on and I'm liberal on others. It's impossible to follow a party's idealogue down to the letter. We all think and feel differently.

The democratic party needs more powerful models like Murtha, Gore (albeit late), and Obama in order for me to gain the respect back I once had. I don't know what he's up to nowadays but Dean has proven to be a political disaster as the head of the DNC. It's coming to the point where all I see is a bunch of BIG DOGS who are willing to say any and everything to get that next vote so that can lead us all to hell in a hand basket.

Back to the media, let's face it the media does determine who will be in the political office. If you don't get the exposure no one knows about you, thus they don't vote for you. I met a Veteran for Peace member at the courthouse last month. He was an independent running for Alabama congress. He had petitions to get his name on the ballat. I read his agenda which included things like *exit strategy for the war in Iraq, immediate armor and equipment assessment for soldiers on the ground* and other social issues (I wish I could find the card). But I agreed with him and signed the petition. The truth is he probably won't make it on the ballat because of funding which means lack of exposure. It's all about the dollar, *the elite*, and if you don't have none then chances are you wont make it far.


Sir Percy showed up on the C-board Y-day
and said this:

*The real terrorists are in the WhiteHouse.

And his murder will only spawn a replacement.

Do you think for one second they are going to roll over for the imperialist invaders?

How soon do you think WE in America would stop fighting an invader?

Please - try to crack open your mind, just a sliver.*

Sounds like. S.P. is a little hopeful he will be replaced. I mean, S.P. thinks the real terrorists are in the White House, so he or she obviously is on the terrorists side.

You know there are extreme leftists in this country, and some occasionally show up on these boards hoping that someone takes the country down. You know it. You can deny it all day, but it's true.
I have read Sir Percy on other boards.
His posts are disturbing, and I absolutely do not mean they are disturbing in a thought provoking way. 
It takes so little to make you laugh - in fact, it takes nothing at all. NM
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I know Sir Percy and I'm sorry. I feel into one of Ann's well woven traps....sm
She really doesn't deserve the attention she is given. She feeds off of it.
I am afraid Sir Percy was on a roll and just had to get all that hate out! nm

I don't, but the administrator does and knows who is who and who is not. sm
Get the picture?
Please administrator
Administrator, we have been invaded on a daily basis by conservative posters who attack and fight over anything we post.  Now this, southern gal, what she is posting is conservative items, not liberal.  Could you please remind the conservatives to be respectful of posting on the liberal board.
maybe administrator needs to see it
Maybe it needs to be reported to the administrator/monitor, like they would do to us.
administrator
ff
GO ADMINISTRATOR!
I loved your clarification! It was right on!
IPs can only be seen by the Administrator of this site.
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the administrator, not the posters
I did not say I have information on IP addresses..I suggested to the conservatives if they think I am constantly posting with other handles than my own, they could contact the administrator and ask her to check the IP address of the posts the conservatives keep saying I am posting under and it would prove I ONLY POST UNDER GT, NO OTHER HANDLE..Those other posters are NOT ME..The administrator of this site of course can check IP addresses..NOT US, the administrator..
Administrator has decreed

That on the liberal board we are not allowed to say negative things about the current president.  On the other hand, if it's a former president you can really go to town.  You may call Clinton a serial rapist, you may call Carter any number of ugly names.  However, Bush is strictly off limits.


Probably why no one posts very much.


FYI.


Yes. Someone must have run to the administrator again and complained that she was being treated the

The height of hypocrisy.


The administrator did not say we could not post on other boards. sm
She said to be respectful.  Tell me where in my post I was disrespectful.   Why not get off of this and start an intelligent debate instead of whole threads crying about being kicked out of the sandbox.  
No, the administrator is not giving me any information, nor would I ask. sm
I made a rejoiner when you once again accused me of something I didn't do (see above posts).  Have you got all the meat off this bone yet!
The administrator came on ONCE not REPEATEDLY and she came on all boards.
She did not say to stay off the boards.  She said not to slam posters.  Now, if you can manage to take a second of your time and check out the conservative board, you will see the same thing is taking place there.  The only difference is that they are not whining about it.  Get real.
Administrator: I am at a lost as to your statement...sm
And realize I am only trying to understand what is going on here. Both boards have had their fair share of attacks, but there is rarely a day that goes by that it does not happen on this board.

That said, when you say no *slurs* against the president that leaves a lot unsaid. Are you instructing us not to speak unfavorable to the president on forumatrix?

If this is a pro-Bush forum then I would be wasting my energy to come here. I missed the posts that got this started so again realize I am trying to understand what is going on here.
The administrator requested there be no bashing on this board and you are most certainly

When we libs bash on your board we get banned.  When you cons bash on our board you get away with it. 


Either way, we were requested by the owner multiple times not to bash on either board.  Yet you continue.  Why?


I don't know why the Administrator allows an INFLAMMATORY and IRRESPONSIBLE posts like this!

There isn't ONE person on this board who has expressed ANY IOTA of a wish that anyone be killed, especially an MP.  For you to say something that inflammatory


Bye, Administrator. You have refused to control them, and your trolls have won.

You've been unable or unwilling to control these pests.  They refuse to stay on their own Conservative board because they're not happy unless they are personally attacking posters.


I can't begin to speculate how many other people you've lost because of this hateful group, but you've lost me.


To any thinking, intelligent people out there who woul like to visit a GOOD site where abusive trolls can be IGNORED, please visit Bill Maher's site.  The topics and information are limitless, freedom of speech is guaranteed for ALL, and although there are a few hateful people there, it's nothing compared to the hate and anger and rage that is found on this board.  You don't have to be subjected to personal attacks in a street gang mentality that happens here because you can simply click the ignore button.  All in all, I believe a truer, better representation of what America really is can be found there.


Bye, all. 


Maybe the administrator will see fit to delete YOUR name-calling post.
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I am going to repost the Administrator's post regarding posts here. SM

This is word for word.  If you cannot follow these rules, your posts will be deleted.  If you have a problem, contact the administrator. 


I will not tolerate continued slamming of the President and this country.  Ask yourself what you're really gaining by doing so.  My political affiliation has NO bearing on this whatsoever.  I expect people to behave appropriately on all forums.  ForuMatrix is a website that is open to the entire world, not just the US and I am ashamed of some of what I read knowing that people in other countries are reading it too.  Don't think for a minute that I am only pointing out the Liberal board. Far from it.  I've had to come down on some posters on the Conservatives board, too.  So, what this all comes down to is that respectful posting will be adhered to or I won't allow posting.  We need to go back to old fashioned VALUES, if we think that way then the words we write won't be as cutting.  You may not agree with me and that is your prerogative and I am not trying to censor you, rather I would prefer that you and others post in kind and with respect.


To be clear, IP addresses can only be seen by the Administrator and I do not give IP information to

To be clear, IP addresses can only be seen by the Administrator and I do not give IP information to anyone. 


As well, when you enter your email address, it is not revealed to anyone who sends to you.  The only way the sender would be able to find out is if YOU reply to them. 


Again, ISP/IP information is not available to the public on this site and only I have access to that information.


If you have specific questions, feel free to email me.


Administrator
ForuMatrix


You have been requested REPEATEDLY by the administrator to stay off this board.
....exceedingly simple rules as put forth by the owner of this board.  Please tell me what the problem is.  Is that part of being a conservative Republican? 
Feel free to direct your concerns to the Administrator. sm
You can reach the adminstrator at Admin@MTStars.com.  As far as deleting, since the incident of several weeks ago, I have made a concerted effort on BOTH boards to keep the bashing to a minimum. 
Administrator: Someone is filling our board with drug ad posts on page 3.
Hmm - none on the conservative board.  Extreme Right wing conspiracy?
You are right. I will obey the rules from now on. sm

Have a nice holiday.


Sure you don't break the rules
Sure you don't.  Your fingerprints are all over the conservative board, but that's neither here or there but I could really care less.
Some of Pelosi's new rules sm

This is from an article before the elections.  This sure would be a good start in the right direction. 


The act is a tough document, authored by Nancy Pelosi, the San Francisco-area congresswomen who has been the Democratic House leader since 2002. She will likely be the House Speaker if the Democrats win next Tuesday.


Here are some of the new rules Pelosi wants:


No House member may accept any gift of any value from lobbyists, or any firm or association that hires lobbyists.


No free travel, which means an end to the corporate jet line every Friday at Reagan National Airport.


No free tickets to Redskins games; or no meals of any value, even at a McDonalds; no front-row seats at entertainment venues. No, no and no.


Temptations resisted


To reduce temptations to cheat, Pelosi's bill attacks the usefulness of members to richly endowed lobbyists.


House members will no longer be able to slip in special-interest projects on unrelated legislation. Such measures will no longer be allowed on a bill once negotiations between the Senate and House are complete.


Further, all bills will be made available to the public a full 24 hours before a final vote; presumably this gives watchdog groups a chance to flag any skullduggery.


Under the Pelosi rules, lobbyists will no longer be able to use the House gym (you'd be surprised how much gets negotiated in a sauna). Lobbyists will no longer be allowed onto the House floor or to use the cloakrooms just off the floor, preventing last-minute arm-twisting.


What's more, no member or staffer will be able to negotiate for employment in the public sector without disclosing such contacts to the House Ethics Committee, and within three days of such contact being made.


Finally, all of this will be audited and investigated by a new Office of Public Integrity, and that office reports, directly and only, to the U.S. Attorneys Office.


At this point, you'd be entitled to ask, heard this before, what makes you think it will be accepted by Congress?


Can it work?


No doubt there will be attempts to water down some of these new regulations. In fact, many of these proposals have been in other bills that have been defeated in the recent past.


But several key congressional experts tell CBC News that Pelosi means business and might just be able to push this through. They put it this way.


Pelosi and the congressional Democratic leadership are not likely to get much credit simply for gaining control of the House.


Conventional wisdom already sees such a victory, should it happen, first and foremost as a repudiation of the Bush administration and the Republicans.


This Honest Leadership and Open Government Act is a way of hitting the bricks running. Plus, it could be enormously popular with voters of all persuasions.


They point out Pelosi herself has little national profile and wants quickly to paint some bold strokes. She promises the act will be the first legislation tackled if she leads a new Congress.


Also, Pelosi can and will extract promises of support from those getting leadership positions and plush committee chairmanships and the like.


These new rules will apply in the House as soon as they are passed by simple majority.


The Senate has different rules, but for Republicans and Democrats there, the pressure to comply with the Pelosi standards will be huge.


rules, forum
dd
Where does one find the rules? There have been...
many posts that were quite lengthy. Is there a limit on length or just cut and paste?
I understand that is against the rules, but

the only way I can see that actually making a difference is if somebody went in completely undecided, but had prayed for God to show them a sign. 


I sure hope everybody has a clear picture in their mind of who they want to vote for and why before they drive to their polling place and punch that card. 


they have not changed the rules yet
Hedge funds are still doing sneak attacks on companies, driving them into the dirt.
Citigroup got hit today, down 23%. It is worth 6 bucks and one year ago was 40. They need to change the rules on these hedge funds. They can pick on any company and kill it in a day.
Okay. Thanks. I understand now. Different rules for different boards.
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Majority rules not the minority
as long as someone is given the option not to participate then no one is getting hurt. If they are the only one in the class that does not want to say it then that's life. We can't cower majority traditions and beliefs to make every individual feel included. We'd truly have chaos then, because every one's feelings are different.
Just playing by liberal rules

It doesn't matter if something is supposed to be funny or not.  In the liberal world every statement is taken literally.  According to GT even thinking something stereotypical or racial should be grounds for dismissal from your job or worse yet a trip to the gallows, but in the next breath she posts a blatantly stereotypical article about our nations regions.


Oh did I take what GT said out of context?   Did other people take what GT said out of context?  Gee, gosh, sorry...but  cccording to the LIBERAL rules nothing is ever taken out of context.  If you utter the words like *black* or *abortion* in the same sentence.  Then you're a racist...case closed.


Don't blame us for enforcing your rules.  We didn't make them, but you have to play by them too, or we'll call you out... 


Have a nice night....


Actually I agree about the rules. But don't use the first when you really don't respect it.
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And the monitor obviously has one-sided rules.

All you have done since you showed up here a few days ago is attack me personally.  You don't even know me, and it wouldn't matter what I posted, you have already made your mind up that you hate me, and all you want to do is call names and insult.


It started when I posted a response to Democrat's post above.  Since then, you've done nothing but attack me.


At least Carla was asking intelligent questions and trying to have a meaningful and informative dialogue on the CON board.  Yet, she was reprimanded by the moderator.


All YOU have done is insult and be just generally nasty and rude.  In none of your posts have you made an effort to have an intelligent dialogue.  All you're about is attacking.  Yet, YOUR actions go unreprimanded.


Says a lot about fairness on this board.


And now, knowing how much the truth is appreciated here, I suppose I will be banned, while you will be free to continue on with your rudeness and hateful attacks.


Will you leave?  Sure.  *RME*  As soon as pigs fly or as soon as AG stops *accidentally* posting on this board.  Choose one.


 


To Monitor: A CON says your rules are *stupid*

and refuses to quit coming here (along with a troll named Nina).  They both do nothing but insult and cause trouble and make this board an unpleasant place to visit.


Nobody is bothering them on the Conservative Board (as of 11:15 a.m. MT, anyway, though they might quick post some insults to themselves after they read this and then whine about it).


Please ask them to leave.


Posted By: huh? on 2006-03-10,
In Reply to: Oh, she revealed it on the Conservative Board - ??

The stupid rules have made these boards a place where only crickets chirp. Its sad that people are so childish and cannot discuss things like mature adults. This is why these boards will remain a snoozeville, because some people are not capable of mature conversation and get insulted by anyone who does not believe exactly like they do, but if you like it dead here...by all means enjoy the silence.


I already posted the one that said your rules are stupid

in my post to you above.  Another example is the post below. 


Never mind.  Maybe the poster is *right.*  I have a feeling if a liberal poster was trolling the conservative board and said your rules were *stupid* you would be telling them to stay on their own board. 


There are other sites where the rules are enforced equally, even for liberals. 


See ya.


Does Palin once again think the rules don't apply to her?

thought this article was interesting.


Does Palin once again think the rules don't apply to her?
Posted on 02 January 2009
By Dan Fagan


How is it possible that the Governor’s soon to be son-in-law is working as an apprentice on the North Slope?


The Governor, in trying to dispel rumors the father of her grandchild is a high school drop out, released this statement this week, “Levi is continuing his online high school work in addition to working as an electrical apprentice on the North Slope."


But federal regulations require any members of apprentice programs, union or otherwise, first obtain a high school diploma, something the Governor’s soon to be son-in-law, Levi Johnston does not have. Some apprentice programs even require the completion of high school level Algebra or the post secondary equivalent.


So how is it that the Governor’s soon to be son-in-law is working in an apprentice program? Is this another case of the Governor believing the law doesn’t apply to her?


Bo Underwood, who heads up ASRC’s electrical apprentice program, confirmed Johnston is indeed enrolled as an apprentice. Underwood claimed not to know whether a high school diploma is needed to be an ASRC apprentice and said he would check on it. But federal regulations clearly state a high school diploma is needed before entering an apprentice program. How is it the man who runs the program does not know that?


Underwood also claimed not to know whether there is a waiting list for the ASRC apprentice program he runs. Imagine that.


Rebecca Logan, executive director of Associated Builders and Contractors, an organization that also has an electrical workers apprentice program, says waiting lists almost always accompany apprenticeship programs. Her organization’s apprentice program has a waiting list of at least 100 people.


Bo Underwood promised to get back with me on how the Governor’s soon to be son-in-law got into the apprentice program.


The Alaska Standard has a call into the Governor’s office as well. We’ll let you know when we hear back from them on this issue.


Does Palin once again think the rules don't apply to her?

thought this article was interesting.


Does Palin once again think the rules don't apply to her?
Posted on 02 January 2009
By Dan Fagan


How is it possible that the Governor’s soon to be son-in-law is working as an apprentice on the North Slope?


The Governor, in trying to dispel rumors the father of her grandchild is a high school drop out, released this statement this week, “Levi is continuing his online high school work in addition to working as an electrical apprentice on the North Slope."


But federal regulations require any members of apprentice programs, union or otherwise, first obtain a high school diploma, something the Governor’s soon to be son-in-law, Levi Johnston does not have. Some apprentice programs even require the completion of high school level Algebra or the post secondary equivalent.


So how is it that the Governor’s soon to be son-in-law is working in an apprentice program? Is this another case of the Governor believing the law doesn’t apply to her?


Bo Underwood, who heads up ASRC’s electrical apprentice program, confirmed Johnston is indeed enrolled as an apprentice. Underwood claimed not to know whether a high school diploma is needed to be an ASRC apprentice and said he would check on it. But federal regulations clearly state a high school diploma is needed before entering an apprentice program. How is it the man who runs the program does not know that?


Underwood also claimed not to know whether there is a waiting list for the ASRC apprentice program he runs. Imagine that.


Rebecca Logan, executive director of Associated Builders and Contractors, an organization that also has an electrical workers apprentice program, says waiting lists almost always accompany apprenticeship programs. Her organization’s apprentice program has a waiting list of at least 100 people.


Bo Underwood promised to get back with me on how the Governor’s soon to be son-in-law got into the apprentice program.


The Alaska Standard has a call into the Governor’s office as well. We’ll let you know when we hear back from them on this issue.


Pardon me. Are you saying the rules are not enforced equally? sm
I asked for an example, i.e., a specific post.  Which post is it specifically. I do not have time to read every post on this board.  Also, you said insults.  I asked for examples of that.  Again, you did not provide any.  I am not quite sure how I am to do something about anything when you are not cooperating.  I have, in the past, posted equally on both boards regarding sticking to the boards you belong on.  However, I can't assume that simply because someone disagrees with your point of view, that they are of a certain political persuasian.  That would be, indeed, labeling and unfair on my part.  I will post another reminder about which board to stay on, but I don't appreciate your insinuation that there is favoritism here.  As the board owner has said before, if this board is not to your liking, you certainly have options.