Administrator: Someone is filling our board with drug ad posts on page 3.
Posted By: LVMT on 2006-09-09
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Hmm - none on the conservative board. Extreme Right wing conspiracy?
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I don't know why the Administrator allows an INFLAMMATORY and IRRESPONSIBLE posts like this!
There isn't ONE person on this board who has expressed ANY IOTA of a wish that anyone be killed, especially an MP. For you to say something that inflammatory
I am going to repost the Administrator's post regarding posts here. SM
This is word for word. If you cannot follow these rules, your posts will be deleted. If you have a problem, contact the administrator.
I will not tolerate continued slamming of the President and this country. Ask yourself what you're really gaining by doing so. My political affiliation has NO bearing on this whatsoever. I expect people to behave appropriately on all forums. ForuMatrix is a website that is open to the entire world, not just the US and I am ashamed of some of what I read knowing that people in other countries are reading it too. Don't think for a minute that I am only pointing out the Liberal board. Far from it. I've had to come down on some posters on the Conservatives board, too. So, what this all comes down to is that respectful posting will be adhered to or I won't allow posting. We need to go back to old fashioned VALUES, if we think that way then the words we write won't be as cutting. You may not agree with me and that is your prerogative and I am not trying to censor you, rather I would prefer that you and others post in kind and with respect.
The administrator requested there be no bashing on this board and you are most certainly
When we libs bash on your board we get banned. When you cons bash on our board you get away with it.
Either way, we were requested by the owner multiple times not to bash on either board. Yet you continue. Why?
This page is for the use of Liberals. Please do not bash their posts. There are other boards
available. For example, if you are a Conservative, please post on the Conservative forum.
Thank you,
Administrator
You have been requested REPEATEDLY by the administrator to stay off this board.
....exceedingly simple rules as put forth by the owner of this board. Please tell me what the problem is. Is that part of being a conservative Republican?
I lose count everytime I try to count the conservative posts on this page alone.nm
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That's anyone who posts on this board...sm
but, I'm sure I have called a spade a spade a time or two in my lifetime though, but I haven't called anyone on this board a racist.
But I still think the remarks that Bennett made were WRONG and if they weren't racist remarks I don't know what is. Sorry you can't see this. If he's not a racist why is he spewing the racist idealoges from the Freakonomics book anyhow, which by the way if these are the type remarks I can expect in the book I would rather burn my money.
If you mean the posts on this board.....
I agree. I don't know how many posts I've read here where people are just repeating lies put out by their "favorite" sources. I've read some posts that are okay, but all I keep hearing is Obama's evil, he's a destroyer, he's this he's that, or John McCain is senile, he's this or that.
I think people in nature love to "hate". They like to stir up "fear" in people. As in "If you vote for Obama he's going to let our enemies take over our country. Or "If you vote for McCain we're going to be at war with every country for the next 100 years". The most comical one I read was that Obama is a destroyer and anoher one that said Obama is trying to change the infrastructure of America. However, I did have to laugh at the ones "Obama wants to be GOD" and "Obama wants to be president of the UN" (funny I thought he wanted to be president of the US - maybe it was just a typo HA HA),
Looks like a lot of people are scared to death of both of them, but unfortunately that's who the "players" decided would be in there.
While this board can be "addicting" (finding myself visit it 6 and 7 times a day), I'm also finding it a place for gossip, rumors, and lies.
I remember reading a quote one time that kind of put things in perspective for me about people who spread lies/rumors. "Never make negavie comments or spread rumors about anyone. It depreciates their reputation and yours". - Brian Koslow
The most unfortunate part of the rumors/lies is there are a lot of people who simply believe they are passing on "important information", but what's worse is they haven't researched it for themselves. Just reading something in a newspaper doesn't make it the truth, and especially not on youtube or the conservative/liberal TV and radio.
Here's one more quote about rumors...
The flying rumours gather'd as the roll'd,
Scarce any tale was sooner heard than told;
And all who told it added something new.
And all who heard it made enlargements too.
- Alexander Pope,
These posts were on the conservative board
where we are free to talk about the extreme hatefulness coming from this board. However, when some people wish the president dead...well that's bordering on a THREAT to the president. I actually be afraid to post things like that. You might receive a friendly knock on the door from the FBI.
Again, There were trolls on the liberal board (no consistent moniker that's the first thing that gives trolls away) posting VERY NASTY replies anytime a conservative posted anything on THEIR OWN BOARD. It takes a lot nerve to argue with the administrator of this board who can delete you and ban you for any reason. It is a private board BTW no public doman. Many of you have been stalking on the conservative board for weeks. You have been posting near threats on the president....what do you expect the administrator to do!? Start talking about real subjects and quit having a hate fest over here and you might find the administrator a little more sympathetic to your plight....
The first one says, do not bash their posts. It does not say stay off the board.
The second one I did not recall seeing. As I said, go to the conservative board and see what you see. The same thing as here. Stop whining about it and grow up.
No Reality, I was talking about their posts on the C board. :) nm
Great post. The posts on this board indeed COULD
lack of tolerance.
I am thinking the true Democrats on this board will not thank you for your posts. nm
This board is for liberal posters. Do not bash their posts. sm
Thank you.
The posts on the conservative board were supported by videos. sm
These videos all showed US Soldiers discussing their views on the war. Much different than something you read in print. I would also like to say that the Military Times is NOT an armed forces newspaper. It is privately owned and does not in any way speak for the military. The generals are saying they will resign if we go into Iran.
I think Palin was treated unfairly - just look at the posts on this board
I think it's a disgrace that McCain has not asked that this be stopped. But then again I think it's a disgrace that Obama wasn't outraged at the comment the KGO radio guy made about wanted Joe the Plumber dead.
I think Palin is an amazing woman and stood her ground.
Just look at this board. The republican party lost and the liberals are still attacking and demonizing her and for no good reason. And this is why I think the democrat party in Washington will fail the people once again. They can't let things go. It's like hearing the same story over and over and over while they snicker and gloat over issues like the porn movie that was created with a Palin look alike, and telling lies that her daughter actually had the downs baby when they knew it was a lie. Then the whole clothing issue was just ridiculous. We've got serious issues at hand like a war, a sinking economy, people out of work and all the democrats can talk about is where her clothes were bought, which were later returned or donated to charity. It's just disgraceful. If the democrats can't even look forward and stop bringing up Palin how is this country ever going to heal.
Keep you rapture ready posts on the Faith Board!
I have never seen a more ludicrous web site than Rapture Ready. This type of insanity belongs on the Faith Board, not the Politics Board.
Ignore the posts. This board is pretty tame compared to others. sm
On Red State and Daily Kos the ad hom attacks are unbelievable.
The previous owner of this board banned everyone posting anti Bush comments, and there were constant neocon ad hom attacks. I am conservative but these are not my type of Republicans. There used to be a lot of good posters here.
But lately, you;ve contributed daily to the toxic liberal posts on this board.
R U kiddding? We need all the help we can muster filling up and bridging the huge hungry abyss that
and cronies left behind!!! Every hear you have to invest money to make money? It is not the perfect answer, nothing is, and it will now work magic right away, but we have hope of long-term, sustained growth of jobs through spending for infrastructure jobs, construction, renovation, improvements, and while it will take much time for all of this to get the poor Bushwacked economy going again, we need to help out struggling families without jobs, we need the money for social programs that will feed the poor and indigent in the meantime, we need to get our IGNORED school systems to achieve once again, we are well behind most of the European and Asian nations, educate your children well, invest in their minds and futures, invest in good teachers and technology, and the economy will slowly reap the benefits of all this, too, for future generations. Hey, I am sorry that Bush wrecked the economy with his multi-trillion $$$ war, which is still looking a lot like Viet Nam, and his failed trickle-down economics and cronyism, but at least the President is trying, he is trying to listen, he has taken out a few of the big red flags that so many thought wrong and wasteful(and I agree, by the way), but now he is at least rolling up his sleeves and concentrating.
I hear so much criticism here....is there ANYONE on this earth who is willing to take this on and has a better proposal that not only will get us going again, but will provide this nation with what it needs to keep growing on a steady pace, put people back to work, get our GIP up again, give a hand to starving homeless and sick people, lift up our decomposing educational system, while trying to be bi-partisan????????????
I don't, but the administrator does and knows who is who and who is not. sm
Get the picture?
Please administrator
Administrator, we have been invaded on a daily basis by conservative posters who attack and fight over anything we post. Now this, southern gal, what she is posting is conservative items, not liberal. Could you please remind the conservatives to be respectful of posting on the liberal board.
maybe administrator needs to see it
Maybe it needs to be reported to the administrator/monitor, like they would do to us.
administrator
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GO ADMINISTRATOR!
I loved your clarification! It was right on!
Posts were removed due to the nastiness. Play nice and posts won't get deleted.
I saw the posts for myself, no one "ran" to me. Note that all boards were reviewed for inappropriate posts.
Drug companies
Why is it that other countries have American made medications so much cheaper than America. The argument has been well we pay the extra amount so drug companies can do research. Why us? We are expected to pay more for medications and also health benefits when other countries have universal healthcare and lower drug costs. It isnt right that Americans foot the bill for the world to enjoy the medications we produce at less cost than us. It isnt right that Americans have to go bankrupt when faced with a major illness because either their healthcare is inadequate or they dont have healthcare. If this administration really cared about what Americans need most, they wouldnt be talking about Social Security, they would be devising a universal health plan for all Americans. Some say that would be socialized medicine. Heck, when you dont have any health coverage, socialized medicine is better than nothing.
IPs can only be seen by the Administrator of this site.
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the administrator, not the posters
I did not say I have information on IP addresses..I suggested to the conservatives if they think I am constantly posting with other handles than my own, they could contact the administrator and ask her to check the IP address of the posts the conservatives keep saying I am posting under and it would prove I ONLY POST UNDER GT, NO OTHER HANDLE..Those other posters are NOT ME..The administrator of this site of course can check IP addresses..NOT US, the administrator..
Administrator has decreed
That on the liberal board we are not allowed to say negative things about the current president. On the other hand, if it's a former president you can really go to town. You may call Clinton a serial rapist, you may call Carter any number of ugly names. However, Bush is strictly off limits.
Probably why no one posts very much.
FYI.
Only the lie about not being a drug abuser...
Rush is a fake, a phony, a hypocrite ("do as I say, not as I do").
It is not the Dems who are giving him any "power" it is the poor, misguided Republicans who look up to this misguided human being.
We dems are merely entertained.....
Yes. Someone must have run to the administrator again and complained that she was being treated the
The height of hypocrisy.
The administrator did not say we could not post on other boards. sm
She said to be respectful. Tell me where in my post I was disrespectful. Why not get off of this and start an intelligent debate instead of whole threads crying about being kicked out of the sandbox.
No, the administrator is not giving me any information, nor would I ask. sm
I made a rejoiner when you once again accused me of something I didn't do (see above posts). Have you got all the meat off this bone yet!
The administrator came on ONCE not REPEATEDLY and she came on all boards.
She did not say to stay off the boards. She said not to slam posters. Now, if you can manage to take a second of your time and check out the conservative board, you will see the same thing is taking place there. The only difference is that they are not whining about it. Get real.
Administrator: I am at a lost as to your statement...sm
And realize I am only trying to understand what is going on here. Both boards have had their fair share of attacks, but there is rarely a day that goes by that it does not happen on this board.
That said, when you say no *slurs* against the president that leaves a lot unsaid. Are you instructing us not to speak unfavorable to the president on forumatrix?
If this is a pro-Bush forum then I would be wasting my energy to come here. I missed the posts that got this started so again realize I am trying to understand what is going on here.
Lobbying for big drug companies....oh my!
http://sirenschronicles.com/2008/08/24/hunter-biden-lobbyist-for-big-pharma/
Unbelievable! Drug dealers (sm)
There was a drug bust in my area overnight. One form of heroin being sold was stamped "Obama 09" !
Good heavens! Now they're even rooting for him. I have never heard of anything like this before.
Don't forget that he is a drug addict, too.
Limbaugh was and probably still is an oxycodone addict.
Yeah, In a drug stupor. Why would anyone
He is the biggest hypocrite ever. His mudslinging is just to take the focus off of his own hypocrisy.
The difference is in the drug effects...(sm)
Cocain, heroin, meth -- all extremely addictive and oftentimes turns into a desperate situation for users, often leading to crime.
Marijuana -- Sales for Fruit Loops go up. 
Bye, Administrator. You have refused to control them, and your trolls have won.
You've been unable or unwilling to control these pests. They refuse to stay on their own Conservative board because they're not happy unless they are personally attacking posters.
I can't begin to speculate how many other people you've lost because of this hateful group, but you've lost me.
To any thinking, intelligent people out there who woul like to visit a GOOD site where abusive trolls can be IGNORED, please visit Bill Maher's site. The topics and information are limitless, freedom of speech is guaranteed for ALL, and although there are a few hateful people there, it's nothing compared to the hate and anger and rage that is found on this board. You don't have to be subjected to personal attacks in a street gang mentality that happens here because you can simply click the ignore button. All in all, I believe a truer, better representation of what America really is can be found there.
Bye, all.
Maybe the administrator will see fit to delete YOUR name-calling post.
NT
Not so fast. Comparative drug use exercise.
There is a distinction between these two types of cocaine/crack use, as expressed in a medical study entitled "Crack cocaine and cocaine hydrochloride: Are the differences myth or reality?"
http://www.cocaine.org/crack/index.html
"...evidence exists showing a greater abuse liability, greater propensity for dependence, and more severe consequences when cocaine is smoked (cocaine-base) or injected intravenously (cocaine hydrochloride) compared with intranasal use (cocaine hydrochloride)." There is also evidence that crack cocaine use is linked to a higher incidence crime/violent crime than the use of "blow." Next time you set out to assasignate someone's character, remember you will be a whole lot more credible with (a) a little more research, and (b) a little less exaggeration.
Obama did not quantify his use in the book. He only defined the time span as sometime during his high school senior year until he arrived in New York to attend Columbia University, to include his 2 years at Occidental College (1979-1981). This would mean that he experimented with drugs at ages 17, 18 and 19 while in his teens. He decided to stop the drug use on his own accord. He then turned around and wrote about this experience in his first book, "Dreams From My Father," which started out as a commissioned book on race relations that later evolved into an autobiography. He began writing the book in 1990 and it was published in mid 1995, a year before he ran for office. It is worth noting that he was not forced to include this information in the book....he chose to. He disclosed one of his "greatest regrets," (his words) within the context of an honest, sincere, and direct expression of its (drug use) relationship to race relations and biographical information. Political agenda does not seem to be the motivation.
Cindy McCain's addiction ensued at the adult age of 35, nine years into her marriage, as a mother of three children, ages 5, 3 and 1. Her addiction spanned 3 years, about the same as Obama's "experimental" use. However, her disclosure (even to her husband) was not voluntary. John McCain was informed of her addiction during a forced (birth) family intervention, who then at the ripe adult age of 52, proceeded to engineer the "diversion program" cover-up/escape of criminal charges as described in the other post and in the midst of an active DEA investigation and pending criminal trial.
Aside from the drug addiction, involving an AVMT MD in providing her with illegal prescriptions and stealing drugs, it seems that there were a few more fires John McCain sought to extinguish. Seems she had approached a member of AVMT's voluntary medical team, demanding that he commit perjury in adoption proceedings of her Bangladeshi baby daughter and had attempted to "prevent" a former foundation employee from giving accurate information to the DEA during it's investigation. Further allegations were made that Cindy had abused her husband's office and diplomatic privileges by transporting illegal substances overseas. Of course, none of these issues were ever formally aired during court proceedings, since John McCain was able to succeed in "diverting" this embarrassing disaster.
So let's see, she comes clean to her husband under the threat of criminal charges, public humiliation and the tangible possibility of ruining her husband's career and is okay with having other people perjure themselves to gain approval for bringing a 4th child/infant into the mix of the not-so-remote drug addiction. Looks like the money and political clout has served her well in staying out of prison, bypassing adoption standards and abusing her own authority over foundation MDs and employees. Also looks like her disclosure did have elements of political agenda as she sought to save her own behind.
Drug use is drug use. But age, context, duration, type, criminality and injury to other parties are also part of this picture. It is not hard to figure out where Obama's policies come from with regard to medical treatment versus incarceration for first-time users and/or non-violent drug offenses. On the other hand, where John McCain's lock-'em-down and shun-'em drug policies defy logic and fly in the face of how he decided to handle the situation when it was HIS house, HIS wife, HIS job and HIS future on the line.
It also stands for National Drug Code but no
It's the National Democratic Congress, of which I'm sure some of you, or maybe not.....never mind. I've realized dems on this board aren't really interested in really finding out about the real Obama.
Study up and don't come back here acting as if you can't find anything. If you want, you will. And you'll know it when you see it.
Connect the dots.
Like all those drug-crazed street terrorists did
60s Youth at least could recognize the potential of their country, took control of the situation, engaged directly to forge their own future world and took measures that blasted us out of the complacent post civil war plantation mentality and cold war mongering by working tirelessly on behalf of civil rights for blacks AND women and ending a costly, senseless war that never should have happened.
Not holding my breath here and expect very little out this current crop of spoiled brats. I lay down this gauntlet....stand up for yourselves and prove me wrong, will ya?...but do so with honor. Use your noggens and exercise your intellect, not the Jerry Springer style potty mouth free for all we currently see so much of on this forum.
To be clear, IP addresses can only be seen by the Administrator and I do not give IP information to
To be clear, IP addresses can only be seen by the Administrator and I do not give IP information to anyone.
As well, when you enter your email address, it is not revealed to anyone who sends to you. The only way the sender would be able to find out is if YOU reply to them.
Again, ISP/IP information is not available to the public on this site and only I have access to that information.
If you have specific questions, feel free to email me.
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I don't make the rules, Sir Percy. The Administrator was. The fact is. sm
I agree with you. But this board has a history and as you can see, on both boards, the minute an opposing point of view comes on board, the moderators are summoned. It's a fact. This used to be a combined board but it was separated because of constant insults and failure to behave as mature adults.
Feel free to direct your concerns to the Administrator. sm
You can reach the adminstrator at Admin@MTStars.com. As far as deleting, since the incident of several weeks ago, I have made a concerted effort on BOTH boards to keep the bashing to a minimum.
The rest of Cindy McCain's drug story is....
She didn't just "do" drugs and go to rehab. Sam left out the middle part. Cindy, the beer heiress, McCain founded the American Voluntary Medical Team (AVMT)charity organization. This came in handy when her habit was upwards of 20 pills a day (Percocet and Vicodin). She used her considerable clout to force one of the AVMT MDs to write illegal prescription drugs. When that wasn't enough, she resorted to stealing them from her own foundation.
She then proceeded to fire the whistleblower who had found out about it, who then turned around and tipped of the Drug Enforcement Administration and a federal investigation ensued, which she ended up paying for since she was guilty. That's when she told her clueless husband, the senator, since the feds were on her tail.
Enter John McWayne. The family staged an intervention and the senator exercised HIS considerable clout and had Cindy enrolled in what is politely referred to as a "diversion program."
Here's how this works. You pay a "program fee," attend classes on how how to avoid future offenses, restitution to the victims and avoid situations that might encourage repeating the behavior. This would be the "slap on he wrist and make it go away" approach to law enforcement. It you fail to meet the requirements of the program, they proceed with full prosecution.
Now some people's "program fees" might be other's "bribe and hush money." This program is pretty much out of reach to the garden variety drug offender who is not heir to a fortune and married to a senator. Those folks do hard time.
the drug companies that fund the research for new drugs
really don't have all that much time to make money on the drugs before generics are allowed. Do you think generic companies are going to start contributing to research? For all those people who gripe about the drug companies, I would like to see the day come when the drug companies aren't willing to spend another dime on the research. The gov can pay for all the research then. They still pay for the meds, and it might be more, factoring in the waste for the gov being involved.
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