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I find it interesting

Posted By: could be worse on 2008-11-06
In Reply to: It's official. Rahm Emanuel star of democratic party - Wow. Scary guy.

that no one here has mentioned the fact that he has ALREADY been in positions of influence in the White House during the Clinton Administration.

Like it or not, Clinton actually did do some outstanding things, personal lack of morals aside, he was a good president. Then came Bush.........


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What I find interesting....(sm)

is that the same ones who are making blatently racist and sexist comments about Sotomayor are the same ones who whined about the treatment of Palin.  Go figure.  I will, however grudgingly, admit though that so far Bill O'Reilly seems to be an exception to that.  However, I think this is only because he realizes that pubs are likely to lose a huge voting block with hispanics if they continue this crap.


I do find it interesting
I have a sister who lives just outside of Toronto, and that was not her experience at all. She is very dissatisfied with the system and usually does return to the US for medical care. She does have to pay out of pocket for her care here, but says the waits are way too long at home (in Canada). Perhaps Montreal has figured out something Ontario hasn't.
Thought you all would find this interesting

 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8


Here's an interesting one for ya....many,many more, not hard to find.....sm

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/kfiles/b43926.html

http://www.infowars.com/resources.html

and so many others
Here's an interesting one for ya....many,many more, not hard to find.....sm

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/kfiles/b43926.html

http://www.infowars.com/resources.html

and so many others
I find it interesting that anything negative about Obama is
desperate and anything negative about McCain is truth--yet you call McCain supporters hyprocrites.
find out. I find sam's posts to the point
nm
I couldn't find that one but I did find this

S.Amdt.4170: To protect families, family farms and small businessees by extending the income tax rate structure, raising the death tax exemption to $5 million and reducing the maximum death tax rate to no more than 35%; to keep education affordable extending the college tuition deduction; and to protect senior citizens from higher taxes on their retirement income, maintain U.S. financial market competitiveness, and promote economic growth by extending the lower tax rates on dividents and capital gains.


NAY: Biden and Obama   YEA: McCalin


I.E., this is in the voting record in the public records. There are not too many voting records there for the O since he started his campaign and most of those he voted NAY or say Not Voting.


 


Well, then, please find me one that you find to be racist.

Find it yourself...
I used to answer all of these posts requiring that I go back and find the names and dates and places of anything that I posted to prove what I was saying. What usually happened was that it would still be discounted for some reason or another as biased, meaningless or just untrue so I have stopped reresearching for the nonbelievers. I read papers. I watch news shows. I watch senate proceedings.  David Gergen, Ed Gillespie, William Buckley, Susan Collins, Peter King, Bill Bennett are a few off the top of my head but if you need proof, you do the legwork. I assure you it is out there. C-SPAN is a good source. You can see and hear them in action.
You know what I find to be
OFF-THE-WALL mindboggling about the king's apologists/cultists is that they shriek about illegal immigration with *They're breaking the LAW!*....hmmm, so they don't hold their king to the standard they expect from noncitizens of this country? It's hard work drinking all that Kool-Aid!

Meanwhile, Cheney claims he hasn't seen the senate report re: no connection between Osama and Saddam, and Rice insists there WERE ties and it was all Tenet's fault. HUH?! So now I'm wondering, does this mean Tenet has to return his medal of freedom? After all, it's not like he said he was pressured to manufacture the intelligence to suit Bush and Co.


Took me a while to find this....

And Clinton is a serial rapist. So what is your point? sm




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Posted By: Brunson on 2006-05-03,
In Reply to: Hitchens is a public and private severe alcoholic - Mind

Everyone knows that Hitchens is an alcoholic.  You are adding nothing to this conversation.  Act like an adult or leave. 


I cannot find it
but I have also seen a picture where Obama is standing on a platform with other people who are pledging allegiance to our beautiful flag with their hand over their hearts, and Obama is just standing there.  This is the picture that really made me wonder what this guy is made of, where he is coming from, and where he wants to take us!
I find it odd.....
I find it odd that people won't follow the constitution written about 200 years ago by our founding fathers (people we know what they looked like). They say it's old and archaic and has no place in today's world - times have changed.

Yet...they will follow the bible word for word that was written around 1500 to 400 BC. - which by the way was written by men keeping in the parts they wanted to and not putting in other parts they didn't want to.

Where is the sanity?
why can't they find them?
They have to put the info into a computer somewhere? Why can't it just tell them that it is invalid - my local office was able to tell me within 24 hours that I was okay to vote this year.
Where did you find this?
xx
Once again, you only want to find something to
X
Won't be able to find you and your ilk. You;ll be
living under the same rock you crawled out from under. Bye-Bye, sad Brad.
If you can't find them...well (sm)

you obviously have a problem already.  Sources I've used include a direct link to the US Senate, factcheck.org (an organization that even Fox uses), going to bills/legistation directly....etc. 


We can find these all day...

long, but until you actually look at McCain's voting record, posts like this (including the one below) are nothing but opinion.


http://vetsforobama.org/


The ones I find concerning:
AIDE TO IRAN'S AYATOLLAH ALI KHAMENEI, ALI AGHAMOHAMMADI
"The president-elect has promised changes in policies. There is a capacity for the improvement of ties between America and Iran if Obama pursues his campaign promises, including not confronting other countries as Bush did in Iraq and Afghanistan, and also concentrating on America's state matters and removing the American people's concerns."

In other words, sit down with us with no preconditions and let's powwow.

RUSSIAN DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER GRIGORY KARASIN
"The news we are receiving on the results of the American presidential election shows that everyone has the right to hope for a freshening of US approaches to all the most complex issues, including foreign policy and therefore relations with the Russian Federation as well."

In other words, come into my parlor said the spider to the fly...

The rest kind of backs up his citizen of the world mantra. Will wait and watch for how that plays out.

The one I find amusing:
SUDANESE FOREIGN MINISTRY SPOKESMAN ALI AL-SADIG
"We don't expect any change through our previous experience with the Democrats. When it comes to foreign policy there is no difference between the Republicans and the Democrats."

LOL
They won't find it. LOL (nm)

I always find that the most
vociferous against religion are the ones who are so afraid there is a God that when their time comes and their life is judged, they know what's coming, and feel guilty for the life they are leading.
I don't want to find out what comes after

trillion but if our government continues to spend the money, I fear we may find out the hard way.  All I've heard about is how Bush doubled our deficit in 8 years.  Well, Obama has been in office not even a full month and wants to add 1 trillion dollars to it....although he continues to say 800 billion in his charismatic speeches.  I'm also so tired of the blame game.  Obama himself made sure in his speech last night at the democratic retreat (which, BTW, taxpayers helped pay for, thanks O) to mention that government is a group of people throwing out ideas and it isn't one person dictating everything.  Yet he continues to blame one person, Bush, for our crisis.  This crisis has been a long time coming people and started before Bush, although he didn't help either.  I blame government as a whole and I intend to hold both dems and pubs feet to the fire and since the dems are currently in control......they are most definitely getting more criticism from me because they are in charge at this point.  Doesn't mean I'm not keeping an eye on the pubs too cuz Lord knows there are crooks in both parties.


Find it For Yourself
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what I did find out
Each province administers their own so perhaps what I said in jest is actually true. Montreal has figured out something Ontario has not. It seems some provinces have got this down pat, no long waits, no refusal of particular cares, etc., etc., etc., and their residents are extremely satisfied. Costs are quite low, can be as low as $98 per month for a family of four, which covers basically everything except prescriptions. Not to worry, however, as prescription costs are much lower in Canada. Plus most employers cover the full cost for their employees (not the prescriptions but the insurance). All the things we hear of as awful are just not true - in some provinces. However, in other provinces they are true - long waits, no care, etc., etc., etc. If we could but have the good parts of their plan!
Does anyone else find it

interesting that Obama ridiculed McCann for taxing healthcare benefits during his campaign and yet that is now something on the table Obama is considering to help fund his healthcare reform. Funny how something that was once ridiculous to him is now something okay to do and how dare we question him. 


Once again.....why aren't democrats holding Obama's feet to the fire here?  Lie after lie and broken promise after broken promise.  If anyone from any other party flip flopped and lied like this....you guys would crucify him/her.  What gives?


Okay, now that I know where to find it...
has anyone read this crap? I'm about 100 pages in and none of it sounds good yet.

Have I just not gone far enough to get to the good part?
interesting, indeed nm
nm
This is interesting. SM
I did hear on the news the person that leaked this story is a former coworker of Roberts named Walter Smith who is somehow associated with "People For the American Way", an anti-Christian hate group.  It's my belief that this was meant to turn the Republicans against Roberts.  Well, big surprise, it didn't work.  They have to be shaking their heads.

Somewhat interesting.
AR, posting in a message line that someone is irrational is not the most innocent of maneuvers, so let's not waste too much time congratulating you on your imaginary moral superiority. I sometimes maneuver that way myself but I don't deceive myself into thinking it was anything but honest hostility and I don't act surprised when people respond in kind. So sorry if there was a misunderstanding just in case there was, I'm always willing to give a benefit of a doubt - once or twice. After that you get what you get.

That said and out of the way, what is it about the rest of Bennett's statement that you believe exonerates the controversial part? I did hear the whole thing and I don't know what you're referring to in that respect.
Yup, will be interesting,
Apparently there is a crucial email somewhere that has gone missing and there are some inconsistencies in the testimony. We'll see. I'm sure they'll try to explain it all away.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9630676/site/newsweek
interesting

From John Stossel's Myths, Lies and Straight Talk  (link at bottom)


MYTH #8 — Republicans Shrink the Government



Republicans always trot out the slogan that they oppose big government and want to shrink the federal payroll. President Bush tells us that big government is not the answer.


President Reagan told us, Our government is too big and it spends too much.


But for more than 75 years, no Republican administration has cut the size of government. Since George W. Bush became president, government spending has risen nearly 25 percent.


And the spending increase isn't just tied to the war on terrorism. The Office of Management and Budget says spending at the Environmental Protection Agency is up 12 percent; it's up 14 percent at the Agriculture Department, 30 percent at the Department of the Interior; 64 percent at the Department of Labor, and 70 percent at the Department of Education.


And the pork keeps pouring out. Even the Peanut Festival in Dothan, Ala., got $200,000.


Alabama congressman Terry Everett, a Republican, got them the money. He wouldn't talk to us about it, but the locals said they like getting your money. I think it's a waste of money, but if they're going to waste money, I guess it's better to waste it here than anywhere else, one man told me.


Economist Stephen Moore, a Republican, says, We fought a war against big government and you know what? Big government won.


He noted, You look at what's happened to the government in the 10 years since the Republicans took control of Congress, the government is twice as big.


http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123606


Yes, I saw that too, PK. It will be interesting, no?

This is interesting...sm

I heard this a few days ago, but since everyone only pays attention to articles in mainstream papers and TV news, thought I would post it. Could explain why Bush is acting like a brat.  The pressure coming from the families, the public, and the truth movements is getting intense. 


Apparently, CIA officers are buying legal insurance to cover the cost of their defense should they be indicted by a federal grand jury for their roles in 9/11. They are worried that the results of an internal CIA investigation into some CIA agents’ roles in 9/11 may soon become public and the public outcry would immediately lead to their arrest for murder and conspiracy among other charges.


CIA officers who are charged with something that was done in the line of duty, i.e., for something that is constitutional and legal; are defended by the largest law firm in the world; the U.S. Justice Department. However, for illegal and unconstitutional charges they are on their own. That is why this private legal insurance has suddenly become so attractive to some employees of the CIA; they know that they will not be defended by the Justice Department because what they did was so illegal and reprehensible. That is why they are busy buying private legal insurance. For a well-researched, excellent article found in the mainstream media see the Washington Post for R. Jeffrey Smith’s story titled, “CIA Officers Buy Legal Insurance”


 


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/10/AR2006091001286.html?nav=hcmodule


Interesting

OKay, so based on your analogy.....if someone trespasses on my land with intent to do me harm and I order them off my property and remind them that it is illegal to harm me or to trespass......you imply that I am NOT allowed to mention what the law states and that it is illegal for them to harm me UNLESS I am a law enforcement officer?


Very interesting view of the world you have. 


You never stated a time frame for cons ordering liberals off the board, ....you stated it was never done and that suggests an indefinite period of time.  Once again, pretty shoddy logic.


Interesting
Guess I shouldn't assume we all learned the same things!! We were always taught that Job was most probably performed as a play and was a teaching piece, not the actual word of G-d.

It is interesting to hear what others have been taught, within the same faith, as well.
interesting that everyone behind him on TV
I don't get that.....why is everyone behind him, around him, in every speech/TV appearance....white?  I see nearly no black people around him EVER....this is what I do not understand. 
Very interesting!
Isn't disclosure is a beautiful thing?  and this could be the beginning of the fall for the Bush administration.  Gratifying that people are beginning to speak out about the incompetent Iraqi policy that has been implemented.  However, this film seems to be chronical just a few months of 2003 and wonder why that is. The review from the New York Times was also very interesting.  I encourage anyone to read it.  Doesn't look like it's going to hit too many theaters, so it looks like I will be buying it and loaning it out!
Yep...some of that is very interesting....
I would venture a guess that part of the reason poverty has "gone up" is that social programs run amok are starting to erase the middle class, and those who used to be in the "middle class" are now in the "poverty" class...as entitlements extend higher and higher up the income ladder and the "poverty" threshold right along with it. That is why they quote a lot of ballpark statistics and none of the specifics.

I would also venture a guess that as teen births have gone down, teen abortions have gone up.

I think you hit the nail on the head with the broad overview comment...but what they never tell you is, as Paul Harvey would put it..."the rest of the story."

There are usually mitigating factors that go into any statistic. I am not a big fan of ballpark statistics....as you can see.

:-) Have a great day, piglet!
I did. Very interesting!

This was actually the first debate I watched this year.  I wanted to watch the others but just missed them somehow.  I will definitely be watching them from now on!  I found it so interesting, and it really gave me more hope about our country's future.  I just loved hearing so many great ideas for the future of America (from all of the candidates).  I have been very discouraged over the last 7 years.  Things just keep getting worse and worse and worse.  I cannot wait to have a strong, intelligent leader running this country who can help heal our very injured nation!


I was most impressed with Joe Biden, Bill Richardson, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton.  I don't know if Richardson has what it takes, but I loved what he had to say about education being the most important thing (I agree!) and just how he presented himself and his ideas in general.  Biden seems to have the experience behind him and a good solid head on his shoulders, and I really appreciated his ability to get right to the point instead of dancing around aimlessly.


Obama may not have had the strongest night (and I was not happy about how he interrupted Hillary!), but he is my favorite candidate, so I am giving him the benefit of the doubt because I know where he stands on the issues more than I know any other candidate. He just needed to be much more quick and direct with some of his answers, but of course, I still think he's the man. :)  I do fully expect him to learn from his mistakes and completely wow me at the next debate.


Hillary is a very impressive politician.  I really find her to be extremely intelligent, extremely strong, and very likeable in general.  She would indeed be an incredibly strong leader for this country.  She is a great speaker.  Although people keep talking about how she is being attacked, I do agree with a lot of the critism she receives on her voting record and her alliances (best word I could think of) with major corporations.  That makes me a bit nervous because to me one of the biggest problems in America is that the corporations are using our politicians like their own personal puppets.  However, I am really impressed with her knowledge overall and how she plans to turn this country around, and obviously we would be at least 100 times better off having her in office than Bush and the current sorry excuse for an administration!  January of 2009 cannot come soon enough.


That's very interesting (sm)
I am also related to the Bush family and others on that list. I guess it's possible that I am related to Obama as well. I don't know if any of them are/were Muslim, but I am. I love geneaology!
Wow - quite interesting

Very interesting articles - and video clips.


Dick Morris was an advisor to the Bill Clinton administration.  He was also the campaign manager of Clinton's successful 96 re-election.  He knows the Clintons inside and out.  Very interesting reading (and watching).


http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/


 


Very interesting
I'm not a big fan of either candidate, but I definiately have noticed much more info on Obama than McCain this year. What I think is sad about the so-called "Big Media" is that they are supposed to be keeping us informed of what is going on with everything, but they seem to pick and choose what we need to hear. It seems you have to watch several different news programs to get the whole story on what's going on. Of course, if you go back in time, it's always been this way - even in the days of Thomas Jefferson running for President, where people would pay newspapers to print the stories they wanted the public to read. Presidential campaigns have never been pretty and some have been downright nasty- I don't see that changing any time soon, no matter who the favored son may be.
That is interesting ...

I'm not trying to bash your opinion just making an observation about how 2 people look at the same thing and see 2 different things.


You said you felt that Bush did a good job in keeping the country safe after 9/11, etc.  I look at the situation as Bush preying on our fears and using them to invade Iraq.  We did a fast hit on Afghan. which was needed, but then that was it.  Osama bin Laden is still at large (maybe dead for all we really know) and he was behind the whole incident.  But we have torn apart Iraq for what real reason?  Oil.  It can be sugar coated and denied, but we all know that is what it was.  It wasn't for any supposed WMD that he knew were not there.


I don't think our country can take more war, and that is what McCain has said he believes in (unless he has since changed that statement). 


I believe Bush has done more hurt than good for this country, our country.  BTW, I am an independent too and will be voting Democrat.


interesting

The paragraph above it (not included in chart) states Obama's plan benefits the lowest income brackets while JM's benefits the middle class (if you make $5 million or more per year- joke) or the upper class.  Go to the website and read the paragraph above the chart.


 


where was this from? interesting...
nm
It will be interesting to see......
if the Enq. is right again. They finally gained a few crumbs of credibility with the John Edwards issue..........if they can drag him through the dirt, then anyone is game!!!!
interesting....
I have seen 3 different versions of that video. I know they are different because the singing is different. This one is AWFUL!! But anyway, don't believe all those videos. They can be doctored just like anything else.
interesting how you...sm
how you make a personal attack, when I was just pointing out that you missed some discussion below, and that you're misinformed in part of your post.

Just because you say something often enough, doesn't make it come true.



And my skin is just lovely, thanks for asking.


Something interesting...had not seen this before...

Obama to Pakistan in 1981....


http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008%5C04%5C11%5Cstory_11-4-2008_pg7_32