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Posted By: Backwards typist on 2008-11-02
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I find it interesting
that no one here has mentioned the fact that he has ALREADY been in positions of influence in the White House during the Clinton Administration.

Like it or not, Clinton actually did do some outstanding things, personal lack of morals aside, he was a good president. Then came Bush.........
What I find interesting....(sm)

is that the same ones who are making blatently racist and sexist comments about Sotomayor are the same ones who whined about the treatment of Palin.  Go figure.  I will, however grudgingly, admit though that so far Bill O'Reilly seems to be an exception to that.  However, I think this is only because he realizes that pubs are likely to lose a huge voting block with hispanics if they continue this crap.


I do find it interesting
I have a sister who lives just outside of Toronto, and that was not her experience at all. She is very dissatisfied with the system and usually does return to the US for medical care. She does have to pay out of pocket for her care here, but says the waits are way too long at home (in Canada). Perhaps Montreal has figured out something Ontario hasn't.
Here's an interesting one for ya....many,many more, not hard to find.....sm

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/kfiles/b43926.html

http://www.infowars.com/resources.html

and so many others
Here's an interesting one for ya....many,many more, not hard to find.....sm

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/kfiles/b43926.html

http://www.infowars.com/resources.html

and so many others
I find it interesting that anything negative about Obama is
desperate and anything negative about McCain is truth--yet you call McCain supporters hyprocrites.
Now that's an interesting thought
I never thought of that. I always thought how in the world is it that the most important person in America is being elected by the not so intelligent, or people who vote on how someone looks or if you like the clothes they wear, or the people who are uninformed. My grandmother used to vote democrat but she could not tell you what the candidates position on certain issues were. All she knew was Jimmy Carter was democrat so that is who she was voting for. She didn't care that she didn't know anything about him. I did vote for J.C myself (it was my very first election I was old enough to vote in), but I knew what his record was. Needless to say my mom was not too thrilled because she was republican. HA HA (oh we had some good discussions). However, I just don't feel comfortable knowing the "lesser informed, or people who hate blacks, or people who hate men, or other reasons" are voting not on the issues of the person. These are not the people I want deciding who the next leader is going to be. So I like your statement.
Interesting thought
While I am familiar with the names Richard Daley and Rahm Emanuel, I'm not up to speed on who they are and what part they have with Obama. Just haven't had time to research yet. I understand that Daley is pretty much the head mob of Chicago. As for Bill Clinton. If his name is involved it can't be good and anything that involves Bill Clinton does not give me a warm fuzzy (ewww - just realized how that sounded). I should just say DH and I are sure B Clinton was offered something but not sure yet what. Am sure it will come out, but anything he touches or is involved in is dirty to me. We impeached that liar and he should have been removed from the office and never allowed to be within 5 feet from the White House. What a disgrace he was and brought shame and dishonor to the office.
Interesting thought

I read an article today that brought to mind an interesting idea.  That article says the US is a pyramid about to collapse.  The article stated that due to certain circumstances the country could split into six parts (which I'll list below).  I then thought about how I keep reading and hearing how the world is changing and we have to go along with it to "keep up".  The US is a huge country, made up of a lot of different regions.  Maybe the country should be divided into separate countries.  Each one with our own president.  That way others who want certain leaders can have them and those of us who don't, we get someone who understands our region.  What do others think about the possibility of the US being divided into separate countries.  These were how they were listed below.


1.  US Pacific coast.  The Chinese make about 53% of SFrancisco's population.  Seattle is dubbed as gateway for Chinese emigration, and the pacific coast gradually falls under the influence of China.


2.  South - the Mexicans.  Spanish has almost become a state language there..


3.  Atlantic coast represents a different ethnos and a different mindset which may split into two.


4.  Central depressive regions make a group.  The five central states of the US where the Indians live have already declared their independence.  It used to be considered a joke, but now it's a fact.


5.  Canada has strong influence in the North.


6.  Alaska belongs to Russia and was granted on a lease.


I say split the country accordingly and let us elect our own president that understand our regions/needs.


LOL. Over react much? I just thought it was interesting to see
what kind of cars they drive. Chill out!
Thought this article interesting from CNN.
(CNN) -- President Obama on Friday called on Europe and the United States to drop negative attitudes toward each other and said "unprecedented coordination" is needed to confront the global economic crisis.

Speaking at a town hall meeting in Strasbourg, France, on his first overseas trip as president, Obama said, "I'm confident that we can meet any challenge as long as we are together."

Obama's comments came after the Group of 20 meeting in London, England -- which the president called "a success" of "nations coming together, working out their differences and moving boldly forward" -- and on the eve of a NATO summit in Strasbourg marking that organization's 60th anniversary.

Author and world affairs expert Fareed Zakaria spoke to CNN about the G-20:

CNN: What do you think of President Obama's trip to the G-20?

Fareed Zakaria: Although he brought a lot of star power -- the talk of the week -- at least in certain circles in Washington, New York and London -- has been that President Obama is failing in his role as leader of the free world. British columnist Jonathan Freedland wrote in The Guardian newspaper that President Obama looks neither like JFK nor FDR but rather JEC -- that's James Earl Carter -- better known here as Jimmy Carter.
'Fareed Zakaria GPS'
Former Secretary of State James Baker discusses President Obama's trip to Europe.
1 and 5 p.m. ET Sunday
see full schedule »

CNN: But it appears everyone is fawning over him.

Zakaria: President Obama has encountered a Europe that is more resistant to his policy proposals. The French and Germans have their own proposals. The Chinese and Russians have come with their own demands. And everyone expects him to apologize for having caused this mess in the first place.

CNN: But can they blame him for the mess?

Zakaria: Of course not. He didn't cause this mess, and no one really blames him personally. The problems President Obama is facing on the world stage have nothing to do with him. They are really a sign that personality cannot trump power in the world of realpolitik. The real story here is that power is shifting away from American dominance to a post-American world. Video Watch: James Baker on Obama's performance as president »

CNN: Are you just plugging your book?

Zakaria: Well, that was the argument of the book I wrote last year -- "The Post-American World" -- but what I had outlined is coming true. The evidence for this just keeps piling up.

CNN: Before you outline the evidence, remind me of the basic premise of your book.

Zakaria: It's that the rest of the world is rising to meet the United States' position -- economically, politically and culturally. I want to be clear that I am not talking about America's decline as much as the rise of the rest. While we stayed comfortable in our status quo position, the rest of the world was learning from us and are playing our game and succeeding in it.
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* U.S., Europe need to drop attitudes, Obama says
* Obama: Europe faces greater terror threat than U.S.
* Zakaria's book: 'The Post-American World'
* 'Fareed Zakaria: GPS'

CNN: OK. Now give me the examples from the G-20 meeting.

Zakaria: Let me name two things that struck me.

First, the Chinese have called for a new reserve currency to replace the dollar. This would never have happened 10 years ago -- back then, they needed America too much.

Then the French and Germans have said they want a new system of financial regulation that will replace the American-style one that has reigned for the last 20 years.

Why are the flexing their muscles? Because they can.

CNN: Is this happening because of the financial crisis?

Zakaria: The trends were there before, but it appears the financial crisis has accelerated the process. So we are entering the post-American world much faster than even I had anticipated.

CNN: Should we be scared?

Zakaria: Fear should not be our response. We need to recommit to our strengths. America's great -- and potentially insurmountable -- strength is it remains the most open, flexible society in the world, able to absorb other people, cultures, ideas, goods and services.

The country thrives on the hunger and energy of poor immigrants. Faced with the new technologies of foreign companies or growing markets overseas, it adapts and adjusts. When you compare this dynamism with the closed and hierarchical nations that were once superpowers, you sense that the United States is different and may not fall into the trap of becoming rich and fat and lazy.

CNN: What should the U.S. do?
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Zakaria: The United States needs to make its own commitment to the system clear. For America to continue to lead the world, we will have to first join it. President Obama seems to understand this and is doing his best at meetings like the G-20 and the NATO summit.

It is also imperative that more Americans become aware of what is going on in other places -- the other 90 percent of the world.
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i thought i'd find some intelligent discussion
here, but what a nasty post. or maybe you are hopelessly superficial. so sorry.
I heard this solution and thought it was interesting
Someone proposed that instead of bailing them out, you give 3.5 million to each American citizen. You let them tank (which they should and deserve), and those Americans who now have 3.5 million dollars can spend it in the economy, save it whatever way they want (back into the banking industry, etc), and the economy would build back up. Of course don't know all the details, just heard that and thought it was a pretty good solution and I can bet you all Americans would say yes to that plan.
find out. I find sam's posts to the point
nm
I just thought it might be nice to hear an original thought. sm
I guess I was reaching.
I couldn't find that one but I did find this

S.Amdt.4170: To protect families, family farms and small businessees by extending the income tax rate structure, raising the death tax exemption to $5 million and reducing the maximum death tax rate to no more than 35%; to keep education affordable extending the college tuition deduction; and to protect senior citizens from higher taxes on their retirement income, maintain U.S. financial market competitiveness, and promote economic growth by extending the lower tax rates on dividents and capital gains.


NAY: Biden and Obama   YEA: McCalin


I.E., this is in the voting record in the public records. There are not too many voting records there for the O since he started his campaign and most of those he voted NAY or say Not Voting.


 


Well, then, please find me one that you find to be racist.

Thought this was good so I thought I'd share

Down the drain?  Beware of Obama's plan to 'spread the wealth around'


By Betsy Newmark
High School History and Government Teacher/Blogger


If the McCain campaign can’t use this Obama quote to raise doubts about his attitude towards wealth and success, then they deserve the shellacking they seem headed for.


“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”


“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”


Plumbers of the country, unite! Forget about the work and effort you put into building up a business or the scummy work that you do that many of us don’t know or don’t want to do. If you have succeeded, you should be willing to give up more of what you earn to help those who haven’t had the great good luck that you have had to be a successful plumber. Remember how Obama is going to give 95% of all of us a tax cut even though over 30% of the population doesn’t pay taxes?



He might call it a tax credit, but what he’s really doing is his vision of “spreading the wealth around.” It sounds a lot like Huey Long’s 1935 plan to “Share the Wealth.” And when he finds that he can’t tax the top 5% of the population to gain enough wealth to spread to the 95% of the rest of us, do you really think that he’ll stop with that 5%?


Remember…This is the guy who said in the ABC debate during the primary season that his approach to raising tax on capital gains is not based on whether it would provide more revenue but on his idea of what is fair:


GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton,” which was 28 percent. It’s now 15 percent. That’s almost a doubling, if you went to 28 percent.


But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.


OBAMA: Right.


GIBSON: And George Bush has taken it down to 15 percent.


OBAMA: Right.


GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.


So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?


OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.


Just what we need in these fragile economic times — a guy who wants to raise taxes because he thinks it’s a matter of “fairness” and time to “spread the wealth around.”


That will be some incentive for other plumbers who want to work hard and build up a successful business.


But don’t worry - according to Joe Biden, it’s the patriotic thing to do.


Haha! I thought I was the only one who thought he looked

I told you what I thought he thought....
and thank you so much for reducing it to "a piece."

That being said, here is link to article from Wall Street Journal about both candidates and outsourcing...Obama is not going to stop it either. He has said on the stump the answer is more highly educated American workers to compete.

It seems to me, and although you may think this is also a "piece," that if you put our corporate tax rates lower, if that corporation is inclined to hire Americans and not outsource then they will do so.

You honestly think the majority of corporations just WANT to outsource and taxes don't matter?


Find it yourself...
I used to answer all of these posts requiring that I go back and find the names and dates and places of anything that I posted to prove what I was saying. What usually happened was that it would still be discounted for some reason or another as biased, meaningless or just untrue so I have stopped reresearching for the nonbelievers. I read papers. I watch news shows. I watch senate proceedings.  David Gergen, Ed Gillespie, William Buckley, Susan Collins, Peter King, Bill Bennett are a few off the top of my head but if you need proof, you do the legwork. I assure you it is out there. C-SPAN is a good source. You can see and hear them in action.
You know what I find to be
OFF-THE-WALL mindboggling about the king's apologists/cultists is that they shriek about illegal immigration with *They're breaking the LAW!*....hmmm, so they don't hold their king to the standard they expect from noncitizens of this country? It's hard work drinking all that Kool-Aid!

Meanwhile, Cheney claims he hasn't seen the senate report re: no connection between Osama and Saddam, and Rice insists there WERE ties and it was all Tenet's fault. HUH?! So now I'm wondering, does this mean Tenet has to return his medal of freedom? After all, it's not like he said he was pressured to manufacture the intelligence to suit Bush and Co.


Took me a while to find this....

And Clinton is a serial rapist. So what is your point? sm




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Posted By: Brunson on 2006-05-03,
In Reply to: Hitchens is a public and private severe alcoholic - Mind

Everyone knows that Hitchens is an alcoholic.  You are adding nothing to this conversation.  Act like an adult or leave. 


I cannot find it
but I have also seen a picture where Obama is standing on a platform with other people who are pledging allegiance to our beautiful flag with their hand over their hearts, and Obama is just standing there.  This is the picture that really made me wonder what this guy is made of, where he is coming from, and where he wants to take us!
I find it odd.....
I find it odd that people won't follow the constitution written about 200 years ago by our founding fathers (people we know what they looked like). They say it's old and archaic and has no place in today's world - times have changed.

Yet...they will follow the bible word for word that was written around 1500 to 400 BC. - which by the way was written by men keeping in the parts they wanted to and not putting in other parts they didn't want to.

Where is the sanity?
why can't they find them?
They have to put the info into a computer somewhere? Why can't it just tell them that it is invalid - my local office was able to tell me within 24 hours that I was okay to vote this year.
Where did you find this?
xx
Once again, you only want to find something to
X
Won't be able to find you and your ilk. You;ll be
living under the same rock you crawled out from under. Bye-Bye, sad Brad.
If you can't find them...well (sm)

you obviously have a problem already.  Sources I've used include a direct link to the US Senate, factcheck.org (an organization that even Fox uses), going to bills/legistation directly....etc. 


We can find these all day...

long, but until you actually look at McCain's voting record, posts like this (including the one below) are nothing but opinion.


http://vetsforobama.org/


The ones I find concerning:
AIDE TO IRAN'S AYATOLLAH ALI KHAMENEI, ALI AGHAMOHAMMADI
"The president-elect has promised changes in policies. There is a capacity for the improvement of ties between America and Iran if Obama pursues his campaign promises, including not confronting other countries as Bush did in Iraq and Afghanistan, and also concentrating on America's state matters and removing the American people's concerns."

In other words, sit down with us with no preconditions and let's powwow.

RUSSIAN DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER GRIGORY KARASIN
"The news we are receiving on the results of the American presidential election shows that everyone has the right to hope for a freshening of US approaches to all the most complex issues, including foreign policy and therefore relations with the Russian Federation as well."

In other words, come into my parlor said the spider to the fly...

The rest kind of backs up his citizen of the world mantra. Will wait and watch for how that plays out.

The one I find amusing:
SUDANESE FOREIGN MINISTRY SPOKESMAN ALI AL-SADIG
"We don't expect any change through our previous experience with the Democrats. When it comes to foreign policy there is no difference between the Republicans and the Democrats."

LOL
They won't find it. LOL (nm)

I always find that the most
vociferous against religion are the ones who are so afraid there is a God that when their time comes and their life is judged, they know what's coming, and feel guilty for the life they are leading.
I don't want to find out what comes after

trillion but if our government continues to spend the money, I fear we may find out the hard way.  All I've heard about is how Bush doubled our deficit in 8 years.  Well, Obama has been in office not even a full month and wants to add 1 trillion dollars to it....although he continues to say 800 billion in his charismatic speeches.  I'm also so tired of the blame game.  Obama himself made sure in his speech last night at the democratic retreat (which, BTW, taxpayers helped pay for, thanks O) to mention that government is a group of people throwing out ideas and it isn't one person dictating everything.  Yet he continues to blame one person, Bush, for our crisis.  This crisis has been a long time coming people and started before Bush, although he didn't help either.  I blame government as a whole and I intend to hold both dems and pubs feet to the fire and since the dems are currently in control......they are most definitely getting more criticism from me because they are in charge at this point.  Doesn't mean I'm not keeping an eye on the pubs too cuz Lord knows there are crooks in both parties.


Find it For Yourself
.
what I did find out
Each province administers their own so perhaps what I said in jest is actually true. Montreal has figured out something Ontario has not. It seems some provinces have got this down pat, no long waits, no refusal of particular cares, etc., etc., etc., and their residents are extremely satisfied. Costs are quite low, can be as low as $98 per month for a family of four, which covers basically everything except prescriptions. Not to worry, however, as prescription costs are much lower in Canada. Plus most employers cover the full cost for their employees (not the prescriptions but the insurance). All the things we hear of as awful are just not true - in some provinces. However, in other provinces they are true - long waits, no care, etc., etc., etc. If we could but have the good parts of their plan!
Does anyone else find it

interesting that Obama ridiculed McCann for taxing healthcare benefits during his campaign and yet that is now something on the table Obama is considering to help fund his healthcare reform. Funny how something that was once ridiculous to him is now something okay to do and how dare we question him. 


Once again.....why aren't democrats holding Obama's feet to the fire here?  Lie after lie and broken promise after broken promise.  If anyone from any other party flip flopped and lied like this....you guys would crucify him/her.  What gives?


Okay, now that I know where to find it...
has anyone read this crap? I'm about 100 pages in and none of it sounds good yet.

Have I just not gone far enough to get to the good part?
interesting, indeed nm
nm
This is interesting. SM
I did hear on the news the person that leaked this story is a former coworker of Roberts named Walter Smith who is somehow associated with "People For the American Way", an anti-Christian hate group.  It's my belief that this was meant to turn the Republicans against Roberts.  Well, big surprise, it didn't work.  They have to be shaking their heads.

Somewhat interesting.
AR, posting in a message line that someone is irrational is not the most innocent of maneuvers, so let's not waste too much time congratulating you on your imaginary moral superiority. I sometimes maneuver that way myself but I don't deceive myself into thinking it was anything but honest hostility and I don't act surprised when people respond in kind. So sorry if there was a misunderstanding just in case there was, I'm always willing to give a benefit of a doubt - once or twice. After that you get what you get.

That said and out of the way, what is it about the rest of Bennett's statement that you believe exonerates the controversial part? I did hear the whole thing and I don't know what you're referring to in that respect.
Yup, will be interesting,
Apparently there is a crucial email somewhere that has gone missing and there are some inconsistencies in the testimony. We'll see. I'm sure they'll try to explain it all away.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9630676/site/newsweek
interesting

From John Stossel's Myths, Lies and Straight Talk  (link at bottom)


MYTH #8 — Republicans Shrink the Government



Republicans always trot out the slogan that they oppose big government and want to shrink the federal payroll. President Bush tells us that big government is not the answer.


President Reagan told us, Our government is too big and it spends too much.


But for more than 75 years, no Republican administration has cut the size of government. Since George W. Bush became president, government spending has risen nearly 25 percent.


And the spending increase isn't just tied to the war on terrorism. The Office of Management and Budget says spending at the Environmental Protection Agency is up 12 percent; it's up 14 percent at the Agriculture Department, 30 percent at the Department of the Interior; 64 percent at the Department of Labor, and 70 percent at the Department of Education.


And the pork keeps pouring out. Even the Peanut Festival in Dothan, Ala., got $200,000.


Alabama congressman Terry Everett, a Republican, got them the money. He wouldn't talk to us about it, but the locals said they like getting your money. I think it's a waste of money, but if they're going to waste money, I guess it's better to waste it here than anywhere else, one man told me.


Economist Stephen Moore, a Republican, says, We fought a war against big government and you know what? Big government won.


He noted, You look at what's happened to the government in the 10 years since the Republicans took control of Congress, the government is twice as big.


http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123606


Yes, I saw that too, PK. It will be interesting, no?

This is interesting...sm

I heard this a few days ago, but since everyone only pays attention to articles in mainstream papers and TV news, thought I would post it. Could explain why Bush is acting like a brat.  The pressure coming from the families, the public, and the truth movements is getting intense. 


Apparently, CIA officers are buying legal insurance to cover the cost of their defense should they be indicted by a federal grand jury for their roles in 9/11. They are worried that the results of an internal CIA investigation into some CIA agents’ roles in 9/11 may soon become public and the public outcry would immediately lead to their arrest for murder and conspiracy among other charges.


CIA officers who are charged with something that was done in the line of duty, i.e., for something that is constitutional and legal; are defended by the largest law firm in the world; the U.S. Justice Department. However, for illegal and unconstitutional charges they are on their own. That is why this private legal insurance has suddenly become so attractive to some employees of the CIA; they know that they will not be defended by the Justice Department because what they did was so illegal and reprehensible. That is why they are busy buying private legal insurance. For a well-researched, excellent article found in the mainstream media see the Washington Post for R. Jeffrey Smith’s story titled, “CIA Officers Buy Legal Insurance”


 


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/10/AR2006091001286.html?nav=hcmodule


Interesting

OKay, so based on your analogy.....if someone trespasses on my land with intent to do me harm and I order them off my property and remind them that it is illegal to harm me or to trespass......you imply that I am NOT allowed to mention what the law states and that it is illegal for them to harm me UNLESS I am a law enforcement officer?


Very interesting view of the world you have. 


You never stated a time frame for cons ordering liberals off the board, ....you stated it was never done and that suggests an indefinite period of time.  Once again, pretty shoddy logic.


Interesting
Guess I shouldn't assume we all learned the same things!! We were always taught that Job was most probably performed as a play and was a teaching piece, not the actual word of G-d.

It is interesting to hear what others have been taught, within the same faith, as well.
interesting that everyone behind him on TV
I don't get that.....why is everyone behind him, around him, in every speech/TV appearance....white?  I see nearly no black people around him EVER....this is what I do not understand. 
Very interesting!
Isn't disclosure is a beautiful thing?  and this could be the beginning of the fall for the Bush administration.  Gratifying that people are beginning to speak out about the incompetent Iraqi policy that has been implemented.  However, this film seems to be chronical just a few months of 2003 and wonder why that is. The review from the New York Times was also very interesting.  I encourage anyone to read it.  Doesn't look like it's going to hit too many theaters, so it looks like I will be buying it and loaning it out!
Yep...some of that is very interesting....
I would venture a guess that part of the reason poverty has "gone up" is that social programs run amok are starting to erase the middle class, and those who used to be in the "middle class" are now in the "poverty" class...as entitlements extend higher and higher up the income ladder and the "poverty" threshold right along with it. That is why they quote a lot of ballpark statistics and none of the specifics.

I would also venture a guess that as teen births have gone down, teen abortions have gone up.

I think you hit the nail on the head with the broad overview comment...but what they never tell you is, as Paul Harvey would put it..."the rest of the story."

There are usually mitigating factors that go into any statistic. I am not a big fan of ballpark statistics....as you can see.

:-) Have a great day, piglet!