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I hear ya and agree wholeheartedly

Posted By: Backwards typist on 2008-11-16
In Reply to: Richardson - gourdpainter

with booting them out.


We need new blood in there that are not tainted by money and lobbyists. We need representatives that ask 1 question when a bill comes up for vote: "What do my constituents think of this?"


We need the government to be "by the people, for the people". Not "by the government, for Wall Street." 




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I wholeheartedly agree.

Well said! Agree wholeheartedly!

After the Bush years, he is a welcome change, in all ways.  Americans have to grow up about race issues, and I'm a white middle-aged woman who believes Obama may be our greatest president since FDR and JFK.  As you say, he brings no sense of partisanship, but he also talks of the Constitution, that it needs to be reinstated into our government.  Remember the Constitution?  Would be great to do away with the Patriotic Act and all of the criminal policies that King George would like to have in place permantently, like wiretapping, torture.  It is my opinion that if Obama is not elected, the middle class will be in a world of hurt. 


I agree wholeheartedly
That is where the rubber meets the road. THAT is integrity.

I wholeheartedly agree with you


All I can say is no matter who wins, I will still have to get up tomorrow morning and deal with doctors who dont know enough NOT to dictate with food in thier mouth. Yippee.
I agree wholeheartedly!
Mrs. M's posts are intelligent, thoughtful, tolerant, and much appreciated by many of us. The racial slurs, smears, and downright lies have all come from the rabid right.
I agree wholeheartedly

Here is what the very best police force can do for you:


1.  Come to the scene of the crime and draw a nice chalk outline around your body.


2.  Investigate the crime and maybe make an arrest.


3.  Go to a prosecutor and see if s/he wants to try the case.  If it seems a slam-dunk, they might.


4.  Go to court and have every thought, deed and act of the entire investigation and arrest microscopically dissected by the defense.


5.  Wait for a verdict by a jury of the perp's peers.


6.  If the offender is convicted, follow the appeals process.  You may or may not even be notified or asked to testify in an appeal. 


7.  Go draw another chalk outline around his newest victim if he wins his appeal, or when he is released after 'rehabilitation.'


IT IS BETTER TO BE JUDGED BY 12 THAN TO BE CARRIED BY 6.  However, remember the guy in Illinois who was exonerated for a self-defense shooting, but convicted for illegal possession of a firearm in the state, and Obama refused to support a change in that law.  This is a really catch-22 for those of us who don't want to be dead, but also don't want to be in prison.  (And I'm just too pretty to go to jail!)


 


 


Agree wholeheartedly
He's a Gutless Wonder.
I wholeheartedly agree that he didn't consider

the Constitution at all when running (not walking) into Iraq.  In fact, there are a multitude of things he didn't consider.  It seems the ONLY thing he considered was his potential legacy as a *great leader* and he *needed* a war to be seen as a war-time *Commander in Chief.*


As far as an article being left leaning, in case you hadn't noticed, you are posting on a predominantly left-leaning board. 


As more facts concerning this President's outrageous behavior begin to surface, I believe the true character of this man will be revealed to those who are willing to see the truth.


Have a great evening. 


Then I agree wholeheartedly with your point...
I would like to see it also. I would like to see the declassified document from the CIA where Joe Wilson (Valerie Plame's husband) supposedly corroborates Bush's speech about Saddam trying to buy yellowcake from Niger. I am sure that is something the Democrats would rather not make public knowledge. I would also like to know what they think they have as proof on Bush. Not guess, not innuendo, but hard proof that he lied. And I think if they had that, they would go forward. There are just too many questions that would be raised that Congress themselves would have a hard time answering...and I don't think they want to open Pandora's box. That is why I think it is political posturing because they viscerally hate the man (the Dems). And I have NEVER understood the degree that goes to. All that being said...I agree. They should make it all public, every last bit. I just wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it.


I agree wholeheartedly with you oldtimer -
My child struggles every week to pay her bills, her childcare, buy groceries for the kids - all on her own because at $10 an hour she makes too much to get any kind of help, but at the same time the doctors she works for are all driving nice new Hummers, Range Rovers, building million dollar buildings. And of course, they will be the first ones to complain about having to pay higher taxes.

I don't think that because she is their employee that she is working any less than them. Of course, they deserve to be paid good, but I think the "little people" who make it possible for you to run your business should get something along the line.
Excellent post. I agree wholeheartedly...m,

I hear ya and agree 100%.

That's why, although this IS a very old story, more facts concerning it are coming out, and I'm just afraid that this will get buried under all the new garbage Bush is inflicting on this country/world, and I don't ever want anyone to forget how this war was sold, the reasons for it, and the *evildoer* that Bush vowed to get *dead or alive* was simply not gotten when the opportunity presented itself.


Regarding nukes, we've got Israel on one side and Iran on the other, with GUESS WHO stuck right in the middle?


Declaring war on Iran (or North Korea) wouldn't do any good even if our troops weren't squandered on Iraq.  This is a time for diplomacy.  We need an intelligent, thoughtful, diplomatic President, not some trigger-happy cowboy who thinks he's king and has an obvious GI Joe obsession (when it comes to the lives of his subjects, not his own).


Bush has 3 more years to destroy the planet.  I'm afraid he is going to reach that goal well before then.  Last week, I was afraid as an American of Bush's complete and total lack of regard for the Constitution.  Today, that just doesn't seem as important as it did yesterday because the Constitution simply won't matter if there is no America.


I'm no longer just afraid as an American.  I'm afraid as a human being who lives on earth.


I agree, Sam. Next, you will hear that socialism is
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Hear, hear! He is an exceptional person for an ....sm
exceptionable time. They say that God is watching us from a distance and I believe that is true. I think that Obama has a good pure heart, extraordinary intelligence, does truly want to improve our lives, and my prayers are with him. How about that he has Bobby Kennedy's desk (my hero).
Hear ye, hear ye. We don't want to be scared.
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Do you hear yourself?
You drive even other Democrats off this board.  There hasn't been logical debate here in weeks.  You have no idea how you appear on the conservative board. Like a bunch of grade schoolers.  They have stayed away from the most part from here, but you have not afforded them the same courtesy.  And yet you think YOU have taken the higher ground.  It's just amazing your lack of insight into your own behavior.  Just as you were accused, so was I.  By one of YOU.  Unbelieveable.
My God, do you hear yourself? NM

You won't hear that in the MSM!
Thanks for posting the article!
So what I hear you saying is...

...that you're terribly proud of youself because when you beat up on people and they bite back at you that you don't whine about it?  And also that you beat up on the libs because of their feelings about the troops and the war.  Seems like you lash out indiscriminately on this board without really knowing what most folks believe. 


And you are deceitful in saying I saw someone on the conservative board being wished to die and burn in hell once.  ACtually I wrote the post you refer to and that is NOT what I wrote.  Do you recall the game folks play at parties where a story is whispered in the ear of one person after another and then the story is read as it started out and then read as it ended up?  And then everyone marvels over how much it changed?  Well, that's what has happened here.  So you are lying when you provide a quote of that post as the truth.


I did not hear this but it was probably said
in reference to global warming, not Bush, causing more numerous and more severe hurricanes. The water in the Gulf of Mexico is right now around 90 degrees Fahrenheit. The warmth of the water is what restrengthed the hurricane.
I hear ya.

Reading your post, I think you'd be shocked if you realized how close you came to describing MY life! 


 


Do you hear yourself?
Talk about talking points...you were firing them like crazy yesterday. And again...the moderator has said over and over and over again anyone who wants to post on either board can. I guess at least the moderator still believes in free speech, even if liberals do not. Liberals, who profess to be tolerant, are the most INtolerant group I have ever seen (at least most of the ones who come here). You ask a question, counter a point, ask them to defend a belief, and they go nuts. At least you finally put the truth into words...separate. I guess that is what liberals want. Well, my friend, I have news for you. This is America. COnservatives have just as much right to be here as liberals. If you are firm in your beliefs, you should have no problem debating. There is 1 who posts here who still believes that conservatives have the same rights liberals do, and is able to look past idealistic rhetoric to get to the real truth of things. Extremely refreshing. As to bothered...you do not bother me at all. You have every right to say what you want to say....but you should not expect it to go unchallenged.

That is another thing I do not understand about liberals...and why live and let live rings hollow. What you really mean is....we live over here on this board and we let you live over there on that board and don't you DARE to come over to this board because we don't want you to live over here.

That is the definition of intolerant...segregation.
I hear ya, DW....
but it does seem like the Republicans recognize those in their midst who claim to be Republican but their actions do not follow...and they call them out on it. RINOs. Obviously there are those on the liberal side as well. Makes sense there would be. It is just that I have never seen them separate themselves before...especially to the extent of a couple of posters who answered my question a couple of weeks ago. Very interesting. And actually very encouraging.
I hear what you are saying....
and I agree it would be difficult. You are right; the statistics I find say that 40% of the "convenience abortions" are not the first or even the second abortion for the woman. That being the case, I am not content to say because it would be hard to sort out, just go ahead and kill'em all anyway. So I will continue to vote for a man who will at least take a stab at trying to fix it.

And so myself and others with agree to disagree...and some of us will agree, at least, that abortion is wrong but fixing it won't be easy...

God bless!
Not that you want to hear from me, but...
actually I did watch it.  From a completely objective viewpoint, just looking at the performance and content per se, I agree with you.  Hillary, I thought, was much stronger and did not let the others run over her like before.  Again, objectively, I think Obama talked too much, meaning, took forever to get to his point and the way he delivers things might go over the heads of some people, or they stop listening waiting for the point.  Biden was strong, and he looks presidential, and to some people that is really important.  I know Hillary is not a tall person, and I know Obama is, but it was really striking in a couple of the shots...she really had the head back so she could look up at him and he had the head down ya-yaing at her.  Just an observation.  But I think she handled herself well.   As much flak as Hillary has gotten over the driver's licenses to illegals thing, I thought the way she answered the question if she was for it, was priceless...after Obama went on and on, she just said "No."  I think that was a bit of a coup DE grace for her, as an objective "observer."  lol
How sad to hear that....
This country was founded on a belief of being "free", allowing freedom from government involvement and corruption. Obama has stated he wants bigger government, more government to tell you how to act/feel/breath, all at your expense. Now, where is the freedom in that? Taxation, taxation, taxation.....it is sad to hear citizens of the US say they would rather be a socialist than fascist, when what one should be saying is I don't want government in my life at all...period!!!
No, what I am saying is if I want to hear anything about the ...
conservative side of things along with the liberal/Democrat side of things, Fox is the only alternative. Democrats/liberals are not the only people who tell the "Truth." So far I have not caught Fox in an outright lie, and they chose NOT to run that ad about Obama and Ayers that the guy in Texas made up, which I thought was fair, and if they were indeed as they are described here they would be running it every hour. Geez.
i hear ya

The unique thing about conservatives is that they form their own opinions.  Savage came out against Palin, and yesterday he was still against her.  I don't need anyone to decide or think for me.  But his stories are so worth the time.  This is one area where he's completely different from all of them.  That's why he wrote this current book and did every bit of it himself.  No editing, no publisher, just his words.  Gotta respect that, I say.  His dog (Teddy) has become a big star, too, and has his own section on his w/s.


Would rather hear a few ers and uhs
a polished, poised parrot delivering scripted speech from mysterious authors. It may be shocking to some, but we like our leaders to show us a glimpse of original thought and inspired vision all on their own from time to time.
I hear ya.......... sm
you want to see a stagnated salary? Just look at my paycheck!!

The thing that really fries my taters is that we are the ones who will ultimately pay for these raises.
Hear, Hear!
thx
I hear ya...lol (nm)
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you can HEAR me?

rapidly progressing . . .


 


Do you hear yourself?
Adultry is okay as long as you say it out loud. Now dictatorship is okay as long as the candidate has the "decency" to say it out loud? Democrats are not socialists, no matter how persistently you try to assert that claim. Scare tactics are boring and downright insulting in view of the crisis the country now finds itself in. These pathetic distractions will end up costing your party any chance it may have once had of winning this race. Enjoy your descent and your ultimate defeat. Your party has earned it....10 times over.
What exactly do you want to hear.....
For the sake of pretending you didn't just read how VP nominee Biden can't stand his own presidential running mate, we'll do this again.

Now, that being said why do you automatically assume I am pushing the McCain ticket?
I am pointing out why Obama is a joke. If a man's character cannot be upheld, why in the heck would you want him running your country. There are numerous FACTS, yes, FACTS where this man is associated with horrible people, questionable organizations, and now he and Biden are great friends, all this without question. I'm sorry to say at this point our economy won't be worth crap in a pot if we have a corrupt man heading up this country. He and McCain can't get anything straight on the economics issue because it is a mess and they know it. There is no one thing that will make this all turnaround. They cannot make any promises without those monies coming from somewhere to pay for all those monies.

McCain has said he wants to cut taxes.....haven't heard that with Obama and no way we will. Socialists do not do that. Everything about his history screams socialist and that should be very frightening to everyone. There is nothing about McCain's history that scream socialist views and you cannot tie him in with terrorists, no matter how hard you try. So there are my choices, socialist or capitalist, very questionable associations or not.

McCain said he wanted to create an alternative system for paying income taxes and double the income tax exemption for dependents. Have an income tax system that offers two basic rates and a generous standard deduction. McCain would let Americans choose between the new system and the present one.
This is what he said and sounds better than anything I've heard from Obama.

"Americans do not resent paying their rightful share of taxes -- what they do resent is being subjected to thousands of pages of needless and often irrational rules and demands" from the Internal Revenue Service, he said. "We are going to create a new and simpler tax system -- and give the American people a choice."

McCain said he also would like eventually to phase out the alternative minimum tax, and says this will save more than 25 million middle-class families more than 2,000 dollars every year.

McCain said he plans to overhaul the tax code, close costly, unfair corporate loopholes and veto every bill containing earmarks "until the Congress stops sending bills with earmarks because lawmakers always use earmarks -- spending initiatives attached to unrelated bills -- to fund pet projects and curry favor with constituents and donors.

He wants to enact a one-year pause in discretionary spending and have the governmentw investigate each department's and agency's budget. Military spending and veterans benefits would be exempt.

McCain said he would use the money saved from these proposals to ease the burden on employers by lowering the business income tax from 35 percent to 25 percent. He said, "As it is, we have the second-highest tax on business in the industrialized world. High tax rates are driving many businesses and jobs overseas -- and, of course, our foreign competitors wouldn't mind if we kept it that way," he said.



Not all, but most from what I hear.
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You say what you say. I hear what I hear. Must have been
pouring out of the red camp hate macine for weeks on end, so much so that it is all becoming just one big slur blur. Did you see the Johnstown PA McCain rally clip? How about republicans who hang Obama in effigy in front of their house by tying a noose around a Halloween ghost wearing an Obama T-shirt and let him swing from a tree branch for all those world, including their own children, to see? Yeah. Not a racist amoungst you.
i hear ya
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I hear you on that one!
Why is is that we have to vote in a new president every four years, but Congress gets to stay in for life? They'll probably have to tear Nancy Pelosi's cold dead body out of her chair, not to mention some of the other cronies that have been there forever. Term limits on Congress? An idea to think over.
If I hear that (sm)
I'm moving because I am SOOOO in a horror movie....LOL.
Because I believe NOTHING I hear
and only half of what I see. 
I am sorry to hear that. nm

Sorry to hear
that you condone racism coming from one church but one someone points it out you accuse them of racism. In all forms it needs to be eliminated.
I hear ya, GP. (sm)
Every day, same old, same old.  It's disheartening.
Actually we just don't want to hear him at all
Until he is sworn and and "legally" president.
sorry to hear that

but not too much.


 


I don't think the right wants to hear her either. (sm)

Check out how well Fox treated her.....ROFL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZLfLmncPEc


I am very sorry to hear.....(sm)

about your stepson.  However, respectfully, I don't think that's a very good comparison.  I would agree with you except for the fact that it has been proven that Bush did receive notice of an eminent threat repeatedly, which included the use of commercial airplanes.  He chose to ignore those threats.


Proof of this is easy to find.  It's all over the internet and in the backlog of most network sites.  However, one in particular that comes to mind is below.


http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/27/flashback-biden-on-91001-warned-the-real-threat-may-come-in-the-belly-of-a-plane/


Oh, you better believe it!! You would hear
NM
And where did you hear that...(sm)
like I don't already know..
I hear ya!
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