I heard a rumor
Posted By: Lifelong Democrat on 2007-12-05
In Reply to: Trust your instincts, know the feeling.sm - LVMT
From a friend with a son in Iraq, who supposedly told her that Pakistan is the next targeted place for war. Supposedly it would be considered a "new" war and as such would give Bush a loophole to stay in command of the armed forces as "commander in chief" for an extra year....I'd never heard of this so I don't know if my friend is nuts or what. Is there such a provision that if a president starts a new war in the last year of his term he gets to hang out an extra year to supervise it?
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Heard the same blather from the Oreilly rumor factor
the NY Times, Rasmussen, Gallup, etc., all in response to his dive in the ratings, taking third place behind KO and RM on MSNBC and AC on CNN. "They MUST be rigged," he blustered in protest. You don't like polls? Fine. Check out the electoral map.
http://election.princeton.edu/electoral-college-map/
Maybe the rumor was right
When I saw the news I remembered my earlier post here regarding my friend's son (who is on active duty in Iraq) predicting the next war would be in Pakistan. Interesting coincidence causing my half-awake brain to fill with paranoid "was this staged by our own govt as a new excuse for a new war" conspiracy theories, LOL. I better get some caffeine and clear out the cobwebs.
That is a rumor, and did you ever think...
what effect it is going to have on that 16-year-old when she hears that kind of thing, finds out she has been made political fodder?
rumor has it
has malodorous feet... can anyone confirm this?
Unfortunately he did say it - not rumor - and not funny!
This is not rumor or heresay, this is fact. People who dislike Obama so much will not want to believe it, but as unfortunate as it is, it is true. And yes, it is true that Hillary called Bill many names equal to the "c" word (and right in front of Chelsea and others as they stood on the stairs in their mansion), and on multiple occasions used the "F" word toward the secret service. These were not unsubstantiated rumors you seem to think are funny (lol), these are hard facts, and nothing worth laughing at. It is also unfortunate that in this day and age too many people let the swear words fly out of their mouth as their everyday language, and worse is when they don't respect their peers or spouses enough not to use that kind of language towards them (especially in front of other people). As for McCain admitting to it? Give me a break...of course he's not going to admit that especially in light of the election coming up. Also don't you think it's a bit odd that if it wasn't true she (Mrs. McCain) sure is not denying it and if it were untrue both he and his wife would be coming out stating these were rumors they are not true, lies put out by my competitors, blah, blah, blah. But they are not denying it, they are doing everything they can to keep that out of the news and avoiding the issue. So leads one to assume they wish it never happened.
As for people speaking in anonymity....it has come out that people will not go on the record for fear of retaliation. It's similar to this board here. People will remain anonymous because they get attacked a lot.
You have no proof that this is a rumor!
Hoping something is not true doesn't make it so! Did you see the pictures? Her daughter looked much more pregnant that Palin did!
Prove to me that it is a rumor!!!
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Because the rumor factor has taken this to mean
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There is a rumor going through the press that........ sm
Rahm Emanuel turned him in. I'm not reporting this as fact because I haven't checked it out yet, but I have seen that mentioned.
Apparently yet another rumor
Update: The McCain campaign hasn't heard anything about the report of a bus being attacked. This makes the following report seem highly unlikely. Neither Raton police nor state police have received reports about such an incident.
The blog item below was posted by Mark Williams, former talk-radio host turned spokesman for Our Country Deserves Better PAC, a group committed to working against an Obama quest for the presidency. He has been on the group's Stop Obama tour, which arrived in Raton about a day after a McCain/Palin bus came through, he said. Williams said he heard the story from several residents of Raton, who said the bus had a shattered window when it arrived in town, and that it had been shattered by some kind of shot during its trip up from southern New Mexico, but he never saw the bus.
A Raton Police spokesperson, who said he's been on his phone all day long with reporters, said if the incident happened, it happened far south of Raton. Several calls to offices south, such as Chavez County Sheriff's Department and the Roswell Police, however, turned up nothing. Looks like this one is firmly in the debunked rumor pile for now, and not likely to move anytime soon.
A report from New Mexico:
We learned at this morning’s Stop Obama Rally here that the McCain/Palin Straight Talk Express came through town yesterday. It arrived with a window shattered by a .22 caliber weapon. It had also been hit by an unknown number of paint balls from a paint ball gun or guns. There were reportedly no injuries and neither candidate was on board.
Get ready for the media saturation! The wringing of hands, the concern about "incitement," the indictment of Obama and Biden for daring to criticize McCain and Palin in such a way that would drive their supporters to this.
This is a false rumor
Check out emails like this that you get on snopes.com. If you go to snopes website and type in AIG bailout congress pension you will get the real truth. So many emails I get are totally false I never forward anything until I check it out on snopes.
My point is, like Clinton's it is a rumor.
Why put so much stock in these rumors......because you want to believe the rumors.
I do not believe anyone is trying to start a rumor. Just something we noticed.
and hopefully it is nothing serious. but it was noticeable.
Hey, the rumor mill is back!! (sm)
Here's a question for ya. If Bush is tried for war crimes and is found guilty, does that mean that Obama has *palled around* with war criminals? He has been to Bush's house recently....LOL 
This is an unfortunate email rumor that is actually a hoax
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It's hunting season here. We have no problems getting ammo. Sounds like a silly rumor to me. NT
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Care to post the right fringe rumor rag conspiracy theory link
I am not into solving prevarication puzzles. Further comment might be forthcoming if you spit out precisely what you are trying to say here.
Heard that before.
When was that? Oh yeah! Gee, I really miss Nan, I wish she'd come back to the board. LOL!!!
I apologize to those who don't know what I'm talking about - again, the guilty party knows full well.
Anyway how's this for a subject? - The mayor New Orleans was a Republican before he ran, and switched his party affiliation to Democrat before he was successfully elected. Landreau is a Democrat. The Louisiana governor is a Democrat. Seems we have a lot of democratic leaders in an otherwise supposedly Republican state.
Wonder what effect if any that has had on the slow and disinterested response from the federal govt. in helping the people of New Orleans?
Everybody's heard of her now, eh?
That was a long article, but I think it did highlight the fact that Bush is neither a friendly or a courteous guy - insiders have been saying that for years. Can't use the excuse that he didn't want some antiwar journalist raking him over the coals - that kind of journalist would never have been allowed within the same building as he, if she had that kind of reputation.
It seems clear that the Bushes consider themselves American Royalty and that's unfortunate, because America was born from a resentment of just that kind of above-the-law holier-than-thou don't- speak-until-he-does kind of nonsense.
This is the first I heard of this.
Thanks for posting it. I love the title, Water the Bushes. :-)
Have you heard this one before?
The proof is in the pudding.
That's because I have heard sm
holding one's breath until one turns blue tends to affect cognition. But I have only heard that, I am not sure there is any truth to it. Would you happen to know?
I heard that.
It was published in some conservative magazine but was unfounded. He never went to school in Africa at all. The magazine said that they got it from the Clinton campaign. I am wondering since when did a conservative publication print anything the Clinton campaign has to say. Anyway, I still think knowing first hand something about Muslims and Islam would be beneficial.
Well, I have heard
that it is "HARD WORK" and he is "WORKIN HARD" I know this is true coz this is what he told us in the last prez debate.
only heard a little of it, but
apparently did not realize he had a "hot" mike and said something about obama may be talking down to the black communities. now it has been "taken out of context" and he has apologized and made it clear he supports obama.
Sorry. I did not know that. Had not heard that.
I will post link from now on. My apologies.
No....the last I heard they really don't know...
who is going to speak when. I had not heard he cancelled. Several have been postponed because of the hurricane.
I heard this, but....
I heard the story too. I have not been able to find a credible source to be able to acknowledge or deny it. But I think she would have some very very serious problems. I remember some religious leaders were trying to ban the Harry Potter books and there was a huge uproar. People may think she's going to do this or that, but I think we have to remember she has to get approval from congress. The VP alone cannot make these decisions and pass laws. It would have to be voted on.
I heard what he said....he did not say the...
economy was strong, that is not what he said this morning. He said the foundation of the economy is strong, and it is, or the situation on wall street today would have been much worse. He, in fact, said that the economy was in crisis and it needed to be dealt with in the way of reforming of lending companies, regulating non-bank lenders, etc. (non-bank meaning lenders not backed by the FDIC)...which all makes very good sense, since all these lenders folding and the housing decline have more to do with the economy going downhill than anything else. At least he is not talking about raising taxes on already stressed companies like Mr. Obama is.
And come to think of it...how can Obama give a tax break to 95% of people when right about 40% don't even pay taxes? How can you give a tax break to someone who doesn't pay taxes anyway? Oh yeah...you tax the companies that provide about 80% of the jobs in this country and give those 40% a freebie. And somehow that is supposed to help?
I heard
I heard reports he did not quit.
as you may have heard
long ago in pre-history class, the prez and VP work FOR us. If they want the job, they have to communicate with us, even when they don't like it or are having problems with Todd.
Here is what I heard
Okay, I've been working all day but DH has had the TV up full blast (he's a news junkie), so have caught things here and there.
My understanding is this (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong because I don't want to pass on false information).
JM and BO both go to WA and there is a big meeting with the pres and all the other people. I heard that things were "cordial" when the press was in taking pictures but once they left there was yelling, arguing, fists pounding on desks, etc, etc. I heard it did not end very good at all and people ended leaving and sounds like some people won't talk to others. My understanding is that the democrats proposed a solution, but it didn't hold the responsible parties responsible, and what they submitted would still let the CEOs and higher up people walk away with all their money and the American people would be left the ones who pay for the bail out. I understand the republicans said no it wasn't good enough and JM refused to back down and said the American people should not be the ones to pay for this. I've heard a lot of other people talk and they said it was not a good proposal at all.
I believe (again this is what I think and have caught from tid bits here and there) that JM wants to stay in WA until this crisis is worked out but BO wants a debate no matter what and he wanted to hurry to get where ever the debate is and he ended up telling the people "Call me if you need me" and then left.
That's my understanding on it. I've been listing to all the news stations and cannot even begin to tell you what all the people said about this because they say it so much better than I ever could. But that is my brief summary.
I was just stunned thinking this is a major major crisis and it needs to be resolved and BO doesn't want to stick around and says "Call me if you need me".
All I say is brother, what a mess we have.
I heard
They were threated with martial law if they did not vote for it.
Something that I have heard nothing about...sm
is medical care of veterans coming back from Iraq and Afganistan. Their injuries are so severe that in prior wars they would be dead. Now they are coming back alive but so severely injured, brain injuries, limb loss, PSD, etc. The veterans should come first, along with their families, national guard, regular army, navy, air force and marines. They should be getting the best care that money can buy, not only for their acute injuries, but for their rehabilitation. It is a disgrace that they become invisible when they come home.
Sorry, I never heard his name.
Republican radio talk show host? Well, why does that not surprise me?
I heard about this too.
Where does it stop?
Had not heard this before....
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_harvard_/2008/09/23/133199.html
You can do a search on the names and find the video of Sutton talking about Al-Mansour raising money for Obama (long before he ran for office...money being raised to help with his education). This Al-Mansour is quite a character. Read up on him. Very enlightening.
IS a man known by the company he keeps?
and yet I have heard you say more than once
that you are not voting for Obama, but against McCain. Is that not hammering McCain? And who says that my REAL reasons have not already been posted? I am perfectly capable of thinking for myself and tired of being called names for not thinking like others. It is silly because it doesn't matter to anyone who has already made up his/her mind why I vote the way I vote. I don't wish to be called a racist or rabid or any other names anymore, so while I might read this because I really have nothing else to do, I think that I have had enough posting.
I think I just heard....
the founding fathers screaming and whirling in their graves. No wonder this country is in the shape its in.
From what I heard
There were two black panthers. One of them had a night stick and he was escorted away by police, but the second one lives there and is actually a polling officer or watcher and so he has a right to be there. but I don't think he should be allowed to be there dressed that way. He told a polling officer that they were tired of white supremacy and that's why they were there.
okay - what I heard -
Okay - exactly what Obama said is that "you are absolutely right, McCain has not questioned my Muslim faith", GS then says "your Christian faith" and Obama replies, "I mean that McCain has not suggested that I am Muslim".
He is saying that the McCain campaign was not bringing that out themselves because they knew it was not true and that it was just lies being spread by people.
He NEVER said he was a Muslim and it is clear to me that he is saying he is not.
Last I heard,
spelling/grammar police are against the law on this board.
Yep you heard right?
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/13/officials-obama-considering-hillary-clinton-secretary-state/
I just want to say I hope you will feel better soon and I do not want to upset you, but I will be praying for you that you get the best doctors that will fix and correct the area in your back. You take care and get better. Believe it or not, you will be missed.
and where does this come from? Never heard that before now - nm
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When I heard.............sm
that when the Walmart tried to close its store but customers kept shopping and refused to leave because they had been waiting for hours for the store to open and "we aren't leaving" I about lost it. No decency whatsoever. 
I heard that! sm
I had to check this morning to see if I had a waddle under my chin and feathers on my posterior! LOL
What I heard was ....(sm)
that Bush did come to an agreement with the dems, but now won't let go of the money. His plan is not to bail them out, but rather make sure they have an *orderly bankrupcy* -- whatever that means.
Also, that nice little bill he just squeaked through for the *right of conscience* thing goes into effect either today or tomorrow. Yeah, it was aimed at abortion, but is very broad in its interpretation. For example: If you have a child who needs antibiotics, the child is prescribed antibiotics by doc, you go to the drug store, and guess what.....the cashier just happens to be a Christian Scientologist....(who, by the way does not believe in antibiotics). That cashier can refuse to sell you that drug and does not have to give any explanation whatsoever to either you or the company they work for. Passing this bill will take about $44 million, and how much money will it take to reverse it? That would be our tax dollars at work! Nice going Busher!!!
I have never heard of this before until now.
Does he not believe in B-day gifts and Christmas gifts? And if so, what is the real reason?
The last I heard was he was not going to tax the
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I just heard on TV that he's not planning
on talking about the war in Iraq, per se, but more about the war on terror.
Does this mean he's targeted another country to "spread freedom" to? With 74% of the American public thinking Iraq was a mistake, I'd LOVE to see him try to sell another war to this Congress, after all his lies the first time.
Having 9/11 being an inside job is only a notch or two lower than using that tragedy to promote his own personal war against Iraq, so I don't think it would surprise me.
I don't know if I can stomach watching him or not, so I haven't decided yet.
I heard that, too. And obviously someone must agree with
your point of view because the military hasn't been able to meet their recruiting quotas for several months now.
Might be a combination of all the parents out there saying NO, combined with just general common sense of the would-be recruits who've just heard too much about lack of adequate equipment, that little "fine print" rule that has had soldiers who thought they were finished with their time in the military being dragged into Bush's war, etc. I've also heard that the Department of Defense hired a civilian marketing firm to create a database of high school and college students to find out their birth dates, social security numbers, academic results, ethnicity, subjects studied, and personal EMAIL ADDRESSES to use for recruiting purposes. Hmmmmmmmm... I wonder which groups would be targeted. Maybe that's why they are asking for ethnicity and subjects studied.
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