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I just heard on one of the morning money shows...sm

Posted By: ms on 2008-10-02
In Reply to: senate bill - ?

that the tax breaks that are in it for some business entites, whether they be in American Samoa, or Puerto Rico, and the ones in the U.S., even though they appear to be pork related....they will bring home "the bacon."

In other words, designed to have revenue here, home in the U.S.


That's what I know about that....


don't know other details yet.


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I heard this morning it was over $850 billion...
with added stuff...one particular one I saw was for wool research and wooden children's arrows of all things. The Republicans did manage to get some tax cuts in there that will help to a point so that maybe not so much of the $700 billion will have to go out...because people will be encouraged to invest again. A drop in the bucket probably, but at least a try. Now it has to go back to the house and no telling what they will want to add. The bill went from what was posted on the internet (about 10 pages I think) to 450+. Sigh. THAT kind of experience we don't need anymore of. Bring on Sarah Palin. I wish we could replace every member of congress with common sense folks like Sarah Palin. THAT is change I can believe in. I am sick to DEATH of Washington Politics as usual.

As to Dodd and Frank...I hear that! Not willing to accept one iota of the blame when they should have all of it. And where is the mainstream media? Out to lunch? Can you imagine what will happen to this country if Obama is elected, with a Democrat majority and mainstream media cover? What is WRONG with people? Hellooo. Sigh.
Heard this morning about a possible "methane gas tax" (sm)
This would basically be a fart tax for farmers and livestock owners. It has been proposed (not adopted yet) by the EPA, since they are now in control of the atmospheric emissions. The proposal is $175 per head of cattle and $120 per pig.

Even if you're a vegetarian and don't eat meat, if you like cheese, ice cream, chocolate, or anything that includes any dairy product, you can bet this fart tax will be passed on to consumers.

Again, this is just a proposal, so we may hear more about it in the months to come, but it's just another way we can get taxed and the government can say they didn't do it.
Heard it on the news this morning, then googled it...
there is a lot of information on the net about it.
I heard that this morning and almost spilled my coffee. sm
I believe that McCain has just shot himself in the foot, or like Joe Biden, has a bad case of "foot in mouth disease."

Yes, both should go and help out with the crisis in Washington, but then keep to the debate schedule. After all, a president has to be to able multi-task just like us.

The Obamarama campain is already making hay with McCain, his interview, and wanting to cancel the first debate, saying he is afraid to debate Obamarama, and other comments to that effect.

IMO I think McCain has committed political suicide. Hope springs eternal, but we shal see what we shall see.
I heard this morning russia is buying up
iceland's debts, guess they are in real trouble. supposedly could be a change in the balance of power (not a good one if you know what I mean)...?
I heard that this morning too and almost spit out my coffee. sm
But here is my take on it... more birth control mans less children, less children means less people to support. With not as many people to support, the more money the gov't gets to keep.
unfortunately I heard news show hosts this morning already
calling out Charlie Gibson to accuse him of asking her difficult questions. ??What country do we live in??

Watch for him to get fired now too, this woman loves to fire people who are not for her.
That is what I heard. More money goes for government, not
working going overseas either in this stimulus plan.
I found the comments on Morning Joe this morning

about Palin rather disgusting.  A bunch of overweight old men talking about how hot she is, the feelings (implying those sexual type of feelings) they get when 'near' her in person - Pat Bucanan (spelling?) jokes to stay away from his girlfriend.  It was like watching men talk about Playboy centerfolds.


Where are all the women who normally attack that type of behavior?  This woman has a husband, children.  The fact I would never vote for her does not stop me from being completely nauseated at how they disrespected her. 


Should this type of talk be accepted regarding a presidential candidate at all, period? 


Is she beautiful, yes. Is she funny, yes.  Is she a hunter who kills animals, yes.  I appreciate all of those things, but someone who cannot get men to respect her...that would be worrisome in a serious job or say, running an entire country, we are told is in crisis.  Not so sure I understand what is so 'gosh-darn' funny about it.


Printing money we dont have? Borrowing money
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It takes money to make money. nm


No it shows that I know something
you haven't bothered to check out for yourself.

France was right about IRAQ.

And WE IGNORED HITLER's atrocities until OUR economics were at stake, THEN we did the right thing, but NOT BEFORE.


Maybe it shows
how "frugal" the McCain/Palin ticket would be in the White House, you reckon???  So Mrs. O's dress looked like it came from a yard sale?  So what?  She is clean and she is neat, that's all I require.  Why should candidates have to "look like they came from Saks Fifth Avenue to impress people?"  I used to like to go in Saks in Houston when I lived there just to see how the upper crust lived.   I did actually make purchases...............they had the most fabulus truffles you ever sank your teeth in........my weakness. t I would indulge even though they cost $6 EACH and that was back in the 80s.  Lord knows what they cost now.
It just shows the

true character of our president-elect.  He is stepping up to the rudderless ship regardless of the consequences.  His presidency is not a desire for power, a desire to upstage daddy, or a way to ensure future big bucks giving speeches or sitting on a board of a corporation.  He is doing it simply for the love of his country.  Bless him.


 


Where would we end up if everyone of us shows off
what looks good on us???????
I think this shows...
how ignorant so many in this country are to our own history. I guess that's why we keep making the same mistakes over and over again.
This shows you exactly how much you know about the terrorists. sm
And THAT has been the worst part about all this.  Bush hatred has not only fried you to crispy critters, it has made you dangerously ignorant. 
i'm trying to pull that up and it shows
not sure what is going on.

You ask me about fear? I do believe things can and will get better. This is not something that is going to happen overnight and to be honest with you, I believe it will be worse with Obama.... Regarding the economy, there is a lot of fingerpointing and obviously I myself cannot be sure where exactly this started but we have had a democratic congress.
Pretty much shows
what we could expect from his administration.  More lunacy.  He wanted to win at all costs and he no doubt thought Palin would deliver Clinton supporter's votes.  After that fiasco how anyone can think he will turn this country around is beyond me.
This one shows him more clearly - he says it toward the end of the clip (sm)
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=pf0XIRZSTt8&NR=1
why delete? it shows a pic
of a radical looking Obama and a soldier McCain???? What's the matter my liberal friend? Don't like the truth? Is it NOT obama in his true form and not mccain in HIS true form? Maybe you object to them using a picture that doesn't portray a Messiah look?
Nope, sure can't. When God shows me
I just gotta plow right on through.
Class certainly shows.

The UK presents diplomatic gifts of great antiquity, value  and meaning and in return we  hand them, what?  Plastic model planes?   Talk about a low-rent reception!  Yeah, I guess we  really are illustrating that we don't care enough to give the very best.  


This morning on TV,...
...I heard that so far, there were 325 Palestinians dead and TWO Israelis dead.  (I realize this figure is no longer accurate, but I bet the ratio still is.)
This morning on TV,...
...I heard that so far, there were 325 Palestinians dead and TWO Israelis dead.  (That was about 18 hours ago, and I realize this figure is no longer accurate, but I bet the ratio still is.)
Is also shows how much you know about ethics and morality....
You appear to be a fool.  An unethical fool.
I find most politicians on these shows

respond with rehearsed speech, or just do not answer the question. On Hardball, Chris will say answer the question, yes or no, over and over and over and whoever just goes off on whatever tangent.


 


That just shows the level of insensitivity....
this is an anonymous posting board. You people have posted nastiness about someone and named them. Dailykrap posted it where the entire nation can look at it. You have invaded the privacy of a 16-year-old girl who has done nothing to deserve it and made her public fodder. Perhaps you are proud of that. I cannot imagine that you would be, yet you attack me and support those who would do such a thing. Amazing.
i think for one reason it shows he is not a judgmental...
hypocrite like some of you posting here. This from the party of tolerance? What a load of bullhockey.
definitely shows poor judgement
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Just shows Fox DOES show both sides....
she let the other side have it too about their dishonest ads...though you probably won't find that part on Huffington Post.
It seems to me that this study shows that conservatives (sm)
are MORE concerned about others than democrats. They see a picture of SOMEONE ELSE who is hurt or dead and they react more than the democrats. I used to think of myself as being fairly liberal, but if that means being associated with the type of people many of the democrats who post on here appear to be, then no thanks, I'll call myself conservative. Actually I always vote for the candidate I agree with most, regardless of party.
Knock yourself out, there. Shows just how much respect
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Just shows that majority of USA no longer truly
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i didn't write that - shows what you don't know
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All talk shows gripe about everybody, not just him

They griped about Bush, McCain, Palin, the other Bush, Clinton, you name it. They are fair game and you should know that. The pot shots are to get more viewers, get laughs, or just let their own feelings out.


They are not griping about O. In fact, most of the news media has put him in a pedestal since the beginning. 


Another pub shows his true colors....(sm)

check this out:


http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/01/29/armey/


I agree President should not be on TV shows
I was thinking this last night...how can we have respect for the Office of the President the president is not acting like a president but rather like a movie star.  It is really unbecoming. 
Just shows your ignorance of the military then..
period. Just because you might not like it, does not change the fact that that's how it works. Nobody acts alone in the military. Any action must be approved by the Commander in Chief - who is the President. So, as much as it KILLS some people to give Obama any credit whatsoever, I'm afraid that is where the credit is due in this case.
Just shows your ignorance of the military
period. Just because you might not like it, does not change the fact that that's how it works. Nobody acts alone in the military. Any action must be approved by the Commander in Chief - who is the President. So, as much as it KILLS some people to give Obama any credit whatsoever, I'm afraid that is where the credit is due in this case - along with the brave men who did the actual physical rescuing.

They were ALL brave and they ALL acted with bravery and intelligence.
A quick look at this board shows...
me exactly where they are.
Funny shows typically do...(sm)
get pretty decent ratings, but that's not exactly what most are looking for in the news.  That's why CNN sent him to the cartoon network  -- FIXED NOISE.
Sat. morning laugh
Anybody interested, watch the short animated video at:

http://www.batemania.com/bateman365/day009.html

It only takes a few seconds, it's really funny....until you think about it too long anyway.


My thoughts this morning

I don't know why I find certain posters/postings so darn disturbing.  I know in my heart they do NOT represent most right-wingers.  I have two very close friends who are right-wingers and quite a few acquaintances.  These folks in no way resemble the posters I refer to.  I also know they are pretty much a lunatic fringe.  I know I should just ignore them....but I can't sometimes, especially when I see postings that are so grievously factually erroneous (i.e., this country takes care of its poor - which I might add in many ways this country TRIES to help its poor but there is still much to be done).  I just think I could address these factual errors without becoming personally embroiled. 


The up side is that I learn so much from the research I have ended up doing as well reading some of the eloquent and inspiring posts I have seen on this board.  That by itself is worth a lot.


Yesterday I felt my blood pressure rise and felt sick to my stomach for a while.  But at sunset I took my three ill-behaved dogs-of-uncertain-heritage for a walkl in a snowy woods out here in the boonies where I live and my appreciation for the world that l am able live in came back to me....and I mean my own personal space, my mental place as well as geographic world. 


good morning

Get a cup of coffee or juice and enjoy....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiJk6MeBx54


 


I can't find it either....this morning....sm
I saw a .pdf file and when I clicked on it for the new bailout plan as worked out by the Senate, nothing came up on my screen. It was blanked out. Now it isn't there, so it may still be evolving, I dunno.

What I did hear on one of the money talk shows this morning , is that the bill is now up to something ridiculous like 450 pages long. I cringe if I try to wonder what all it does and does not contain.


However, one bright spot in this bill is that it sounds like they are going to get rid of the mark to market rule (dunno if it's going to be temporary or permanent). But from what I understand, that little thing alone, getting rid of the "mark to market" will free up money for all banks to want to begin the lending process again. This is a very, very good thing.

Oh, did you finally get out of bed this morning? nm
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I can only tell you what my feelings were this morning...sm
when I saw CP on Meet the Press. We already knew from the lead in that he was going to support one candidate or the other. I respect him so much that I was praying he would endorse Obama but had no real feeling of which way he would go. I listened to what he had to say and felt his pain that he was a republican through and through but just could not endorse McCain. He spoke of their friendship over many years and how much he respected him but could not abide the far right direction and the negative tone that the campaign had taken. He said he is an American first and thinks that Obama is better for America than McCain.
Morning backatcha, Dee
I'm on my way out the door campainging for the restoration of the local grist mill that dates back to the 1830s.  Maybe I was born 100+ years too late.  LOL
Well, I usually watch the morning

news shows local and national,then a few others after that, but they're all yaking about it. It just seems like the news doesn't have any news. Don't get me wrong. They do it with every little story. I counted 2 weeks at least on little Caylee, then nothing. I counted more than that on the 911 tragedy. After a few days of any news story, it gets really old.


How can the O be painting a room. Doesn't he have all kinds of celebrations/parties/speeches to make somewhere?  I thought the three days was going to be spent doing that before THE day.


And that's why I vented this morning.

Of course, I was awake for a couple hours, so I had my coffee and was wide awake when I heard that. LOL


I'm a little calmer now, except I'm now listening to C-Span and they are debating the SCHIP program, about increasing the program. I have to turn it off pretty soon. I can feel my BP going up again with some of the asinine remarks being made by certain members of the senate that don't want to wait to debate or discuss the amendments CAREFULLY. Some want full disclosure of the cost and amendments, others think it's not necessary. What jerks!