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i saw the link listed below

Posted By: and looked at it on 2008-10-02
In Reply to: I just heard on one of the morning money shows...sm - ms

but it is just way over my head.



http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/01/news/pdf/index.htm


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no source listed for this

chart.  No footnotes.  No data to support numbers.  Not enough information to verify veracity - disregarded. 


also, moderators have instructed us more than once NOT to copy other websites into posts.  Must use links.  Please abide by the rules.


 


mccain, because i think he will (listed):
*keep this country safer from those who would try to bring the USA down.
*he will bring encouragement and respect to (and from) our troops.
*appointment of supreme court judges that will properly interpret the laws instead of try to make them.
*sincerely work with people of all backgrounds and political persuasions to make a better government (with proven history in this regard) AND a less intrusive/smaller government.
*he will more likely bring us quicker out of national deficits and eliminate pork barrel government waste (which is no minor thing).
*he will fight against anything wrong in the government whether it is politically beneficial or not, and do what is right for the people (proven history here too).
*make healthcare more affordable for all.
*encourage small business growth/jobs and make it not so profitable to send our jobs overseas, thereby boosting the economy in a real sustaining fashion.
*for best helping us become energy independent, using ALL our resources while being mindful of the environmental issues as well.
*because he has proven experience in all aspects that his opponent does not, and because he has chosen a more capable vice president, whereas if Biden were in the white house, he might need his tongue tied to keep him from running off at the mouth and saying something he shouldn't re foreign affairs or something; nevermind the probability of Obama himself causing problems with foreign affairs.

These are starters, but if you really do care, it ought to give you some food for thought.
It is listed,. regarding pedophiles..
Pedophilia -
Sexual activity with a prepubescent child (generally age 13 years or younger). The individual with pedophilia must be age 16 years or older and at least 5 years older than the child. For individuals in late adolescence with pedophilia, no precise age difference is specified, and clinical judgment must be used; both the sexual maturity of the child and the age difference must be taken into account; the adult may be sexually attracted to opposite sex, same sex, or prefer either.

in the first web site you listed it states . .
Most of the difference in giving among conservatives and liberals gets back to religion. Religious liberals give nearly as much as religious conservatives, Mr. Brooks found. And secular conservatives are even less generous than secular liberals.
All of these proclivities are not listed in the bill...
as being protected from hate crimes.

However, I think that if there's any chance that some pedophile or prostitute could twist this to use to their advantage, things need to be made very clear exactly who is being protected by this bill. Is it just homosexuals? If so, it needs to say that.

Personally, I think this hate crime bill is crap. If you beat someone up or kill someone, it's a hate crime, no two ways about it. I guess I don't understand why someone should receive more jail time for killing your average lesbian than for killing your average woman. They're both murder, no matter how you look at it.
Wouldn't it be simpler if they listed truths? LOL
 
ok, it says top match obama 57.14 and then has below McCain listed as 57.14
Whatever, still voting for McCain
Obama got my vote for none of the reasons you listed.
My vote is between myself and the canddiate. He is my voice. On any given subject, I could start a sentence that he can finish the same way I would. This has not happened for me in my entire adult lifetime. I was a few years shy of voting age in 1960. Kennedy was the only other candidate that gave me voice. That is why there is nothing anybody could say to sway me one way or the other and I find it sad that those who would try do not seem be able to understand that I am not the only one who feels this way about supporting this remarkable man.
What's listed here for Iran-Iraq War time
USA (as in us). We already knew about that stuff. In terms of these 2006 links, you might want to try reading up on this subject a little more. There are whole libraries of publications, including exhaustive US govermental studies, that refute your claim and, in fact, WMDs have yet to be found there. Saddam had abandoned this program, but of course, we hung him anyway. This is what we do with uppety puppets that go rogue on us.
Also, did anyone look at the Hardball segment listed on the Conservative board?
It was called "The Truth about Iraqi Freedom," I believe.  I THINK it was considered meaningful dialogue supporting the neocons.  However, I felt it was damning.  The only "Truth" the rather strange and creepy neocon lady reporter seemed to come up with was that the soldiers handed out candy and softballs.  The other guest was a former soldier in Iraq who, if only given time, was making some excellent statements regarding the real truth of the war.  The whole segment was rushed and, well, kind of weird. As I said, check out the lady reporter - she seemed most disagreeable and offensive.  Or maybe it was just my take on it!!!!
post the link only, not the whole article and the link. See rules for posting.
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Okay, thanks, that's not what my link said. SM

Mine also said he failed to mention this case when being questioned.  Well, there's a thousand stories out there.  It really doesn't matter to me. It doesn't affect how I think of him one way or the other.


Link

Here is one link to it:


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/02/eveningnews/main692497.shtml


But this is not where I originally saw it - I believe it was covered on PBS which is where I saw it.


here is the link

I didnt want to put the report here as there is some profanity that Bush has used to his staff but here is the link. 


http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7267.shtml


 


trying again with the link
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7267.shtml
link
http://www.filmstripinternational.com/index.php?asshole
Link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/21/AR2006032100452.html?referrer=email&referrer=email&referrer=email
If you can't see it try this link.sm
http://www.justcomments.com/funnycomments-images/oh_no.gif
- see link
sign the petition
Link
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
Better link...sm
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-pett18jun18,0,3422826.story

Its the first cartoon on the right.
Link please. Thanks. nm

Here's the link.

By the way, that wasn't a good quote.  That was a GREAT quote.  In fact, your entire post was great.  Thanks very much for posting it.  You are so right and I couldn't agree with you more. 


http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/red_alert_for_staged_terror_attack.htm


The link says
it is a 'malformed video.'  Let me guess.  Bush lied.
See link below.nm
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Thanks for the link.
This whole thing is so ironic.  Maybe Iraqi troops will be the next to come and participate in Bush's martial law.
No link..nm

The Link
The link to Bush Body Count is in the original post. Again, I don't believe a word of it, because I believe in innocent until PROVEN guilty.

See link

What's the deal guys?


You said you cannot get the whole link...
to come up without it being cut off.  It's too long?  So, you go to tinyurl, cut and paste your long link, and they will make the link shorter for you. 
How odd--try link below
   www.americanIssuesProject.org  That will take you to the same thing, including an article about Obama.
Link...
http://www.johnmccain.com//Informing/Issues/17671aa4-2fe8-4008-859f-0ef1468e96f4.htm
Link
Click the link below:
see link
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071220/BIZ/712200327
See link

Good article - really talks about how nasty the media has been in this, and also more.- good read


http://www.gazette.net/stories/09122008/polilee181803_32478.shtml


 


 


Thanks for the link....sm
So true about the media, isn't it?

Also saw this on CNN last night, and was surprised that they allowed this viewpoint on their website.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/beck.palin/index.html
Thanks for the link
I've read it and can't tell if it is a more favorable article towards the republicans or democrats, so don't have anything to argue about that. However, the study only worked on 45 people? They are basing a study on just 45 people when the US is made up of 301,139,947 people (as of Jul 07). Like I say, I can't tell by the article which political group this benefits but it just seems to be an unreasonable basis to base the way a whole country votes on just 45 people (and all from the same region of the US) - again not sure if Nebraska is more liberal or conservative. Just seems like an invalid study to me.
here is another link about the same
see if this one comes through...

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4476649n
I don't know if this will help at all, but try this link. sm
www.PatriotPost.US

It is a conservative newsletter that, IMO, tries to present an equally balanced view of what is going on. It is not always in easy to understand words, but you get an explanation that makes sense of what is going on.

Try it, you might just be surprised.
Link please sm

Ahmadinejad Feted at Obama Fundraiser’s Hotel


 


I went on the website you referenced and could not find this.  Please back it up with the actual link. 


see link
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/debate_fact_check
I would like the link too
so I can see for myself.  Thanks.
When you go to this link s/m
take the Match-O-Matic quiz at the right. It gives you quotes from each candidate and you have to choose which one you agree with the most and at the end, it matches you with the candidate you chose most often. Let's see how well we all know the candidates we are backing based only on what they have said.
link

I'm sorry that I didn't save the link to the video clip I mentioned.  I did a search for Obama messiah on Youtube just now and I didn't find the one I mentioned.  Much to my surprise there were tons of such videos with accusations.  What I did find was this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FyEZdy-Rag&feature=related  (Again, I don't know how to make a link but copy and paste in your browser.  It appears to be the real deal.  I didn't watch it all the way through as I am really, really busy today, so you can watch it and draw your own conclusions. 


If you go to youtube and search for Obama messiah you'll probably find the original one I was talking about which I believe to be a fake.  The above link, appears to me to be Obama himself in his own voice with his recognizable body language.


Try this link instead

what link would that have been?
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This link's for you.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html

This link's for you.
I usually give news accounts but in this case I think wiki has a really thorough description of the indident here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Bachmann
You have to scroll about 2/3rd of the way down where you will see Calling for the investigation of the members of congress, reaction and partial retraction. Video is on YouTube which I really suggest you watch to get the full impact...it's really different than reading about it.

Here's another article from MN
http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/31261989.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUnciaec8O7EyUsr

Let me know if you have any problem with the video and I'll find another link for that.
Thanks for the link.
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See link
http://www.newmediajournal.us/daily_columns/10232008.htm

If you get the link
please post it.  I would expect that it would be a chance for McCain to trash Obama. That's about all McCain/Palin has to offer.