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I went to the actual Il. gov. website and read the - sm

Posted By: Kiki on 2008-09-16
In Reply to: The same old Obama... - sam

actual bill, not just the parts that this sweetness-light.com website put on there. The whole bill starts out saying that parents first have to sign a consent form in order for their children to participate. As you are reading through the bill it states, "All course material and instruction shall be age and developmentally appropriate."

Sam, do you honestly think he is supporting teaching the same sex ed that you might get in high school to Kindergartners. I mean really.

You are always mentioning these leftist sites like Huffington, well this is clearly an all conservative site. I didn't go through it all, but it doesn't seem to be very objective.

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The New McCain! - sm
- The same old Obama... - sam
  - I went to the actual Il. gov. website and read the - sm - Kiki
    - No, I don't think he is talking about ... - sam
      - My opinion is that he still wasn't intending - Kiki
        So instead of trying to turn the tide back... - sam
  - too funny - sm
    - Obama and Biden are sinking themselves....sm - ms
      - Our whole country is sinking itself. Greed is - never good; look where it got us all.
- Liar, liar - Anon
  - Good for you! Well-said and to-the-point, too. - Polly Unsaturated - N/M
- McCain: What you are speaks so loud, I cannot hear - MTPockets
  - It is what Obama DOESN'T say.... - sam
    - My husband said....Put all the people in a room....sm - ms
    - What is it that you're waiting for him to say? - ?
      - The truth about his past associations.... - sam
        Re: "associations" -- you never answered a prior - question: Are you really an MT?
        Yes. nm - sam
        Then how are you making a comfortable living - at it as you stated below?
- Once a liar, always a liar!!!! - pc
  - How about Obama's lies regarding his relationships - with very bad people? That is okay, right? gee.nm
    - Who are these VERY BAD people.... - sm
    - Yeah, I would NEVER trust Obama to be our - President -ever. nm
      - Sigh...I just wish George Bush could run again... - sm
        Is that "heroe", as in "potatoe" or "tomatoe"? - Polly Unsaturated - N/M
        Heroe..like - He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road. - sm
        Wait a minute...we don't need GW, cuz we have McSAME!!! - sm

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Read The Actual Bill
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2433/text

If you're so concerned, one would think you'd actually read the bill as written, rather than rely on someone else with a clear agenda to do your interpreting for you.

Gimme a break.

Go to the Trinity website and read their doctrine...
no amount of good deeds cover racism. The man is a racist and thinks Louis Farrakhan is a great man. Louis Farrakhan,Nation of Islam...need I say more? (Talking about Wright, not Obama). He was not "associated" with Trinity. He was a member. Wright baptized at least one of his children. Obama stated Wright was his mentor. There was clearly much more than an "association" and at first Obama defended him, until his handlers told him that he would tank his Presidential bid, then he started distancing himself. That is the real Barack Obama, the politician. Win at all costs, even if you throw your lifelong mentor/friend under the bus. That sounds more like the "same old Washington" to me than hope and change. Sorry...that's the way I feel. As I have said before, I would like to sit both of them down, inject a little sodium pentothal and let regular folks ask them some questions. No news commentators, not pundits, just regular off-the-street folks. THEN and only THEN will we know what Obama really feels and thinks. And how he really feels and thinks is how he will govern. Surely we have learned that by now as far as politicians go. How many have actually done what they said they were going to do...?

I will not be voting for Obama, because I don't like his voting record, which does not match what he is saying now (which, in me, automatically arouses mistrust), I am not comfortable with is associations in south Chicago including his Daley connections, and I think both he and his wife have racist tendencies. He may be 1/2 white and 1/2 black, but he considers himself black and you can bet the farm Michelle considers him black as well. Read up a little on her. Wowser.

And just because Reverend Wright lived in a generation where life in America was different...America IS different now. Preaching hate from the pulpit is not consistent with the Christianity I know, and I don't care if it is a white racist in South Mississippi doing it or a black racist in Chicago doing it...it is still wrong in my books. God said many would come as wolves in sheep's clothing...and many would identify themselves with His name (Christians), but they would not be of Him. It should be obvious by how they live their lives both in the pulpit and outside it, and I believe Reverend wright's actions speak for themselves. As do the KKK, who also profess that they are doing God's work. Both of them seriously delusional, and seriously racist. And both wrong. In my opinion. But, that is an attitude, on both sides, that we don't need running this country. We have a virulent racist in Congress right now...Robert Byrd, Dem from W VA I believe. Was an imperial wizard in the Klan. Has had numerous verbal racist gaffes over the year, but his state keeps sending him back. SIGH. Oh well...that was not the subject.

I just hope people get past the packaging on Obama and try to get inside the box. Not nearly as pretty on the inside....again, my opinion after research and no, I do not get it from Fox News...lol. I have read Obama's books, and I am reading other books now concerning him, and if I see something in the book that is stated as fact I am verifying it. If you want to know the real Obama, look deep.

See link inside for his website - read for yourself sm
http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/

You believe there is a hidden "reptilian invasion / agenda"?? Really? and those of us who don't see it are the deluded ones?

If you had seen the actual
video tape of him saying that.....he was obviously joking. He himself said that he was sure that joke would be taken out of context.......and he was right.

Actually....this is the actual poll...
While Republicans and Democrats predictably favor their party�s candidate by overwhelming margins, the experience gap among voters unaffiliated with either party is even narrower than the national totals. Forty-two percent (42%) say Obama has better experience to be president, but 37% say Palin does.

These are unaffiliated voters....37% of which say she has more experience to be President. That is just a 5% difference...not 61%.

Ahem.

It is not so much the actual hunting that I
am truly opposed of, it is the tactics used. If you are going to hunt them, then truly hunt them. Don't sit in a plane in the dead of winter and shoot at a defenseless animal like that. Get out of your friggin' plane, get on the ground and hunt. I come from a very long line of hunters and none of them would ever consider that truly hunting.

I am vegan, so I yes I am against the slaughter of animals. But, I do realize that sometimes it is necessary in certain circumstances to thin out a herd so they don't suffer in extremely harsh conditions.

I also realize that people hunt so they have food, that there are still people who get their primary meat this way and cannot afford to buy it in a store. I have had many different kinds of animal flesh before I quit eating it, and I do not pass judgment to those who hunt for food. I do oppose using the term "hunt" for the mass slaughter of animals. If you are truly against cruelty, like you say you are, then you would realize that aerial hunting of these wolves is cruel. Did you watch that video and see how the wolf is suffering? That is cruelty defined.

There probably isn't an actual video.........sm
since this was an interview given to a newspaper and not a television station. I'm sure it was only audio taped, hence the picture where the video would be. Why do believe that it is not his voice or that he is not actually saying what we all hear he is saying?

Thank you! There are so many actual important
issues to be discussing rather than wasting time on their silly fairy tale while the economy crumbles.

Yes, Joe was an actual plumber...

...living in Ohio, throwing a football with his son in the front yard when the whole Obamarama came down his street and Obama invited Joe to ask a question. Joe asked: If you are elected, are you going to raise my taxes? Obama answered: It's good to spread the wealth around and give everyone the advantages you've had.

Joe was obviously planted in his own front yard just to sandbag Obama with a trick question and entrap him into revealing the true agenda. Republicans are so devious!

What happened after this was extremely interesting. Media started to investigate Joe as though he were a candidate, not just Joe Citizen.

They unearthed and published the information that he was not even a licensed plumber. (In fact, no license was legally required because he was an employee, although he was working toward buying the plumbing business.) His trash was stolen from in front of his house - a standard investigative technique. Joe's driving record was accessed - illegally - and details made public. I think I even remember hearing he owed some money to the IRS.

His OJFS records were accessed several times (Ohio Job and Family Services are the ones who administer unemployment, child support, etc.) and, mysteriously, information about his divorce and child support ended up in the news. The (dem) head of OJFS then tried to cover by saying this is common practice anytime a person becomes a celebrity. However, this was easily disproved. (The woman was allowed to resign. She and two assistants are the ones being sued.)

All for having the poor judgment to ask a question of Obama, when invited to. A lot has been said over the yeas about Nixon and his enemies list, but our new president is someone not to be crossed, not by a Joe Citizen, certainly not by a Limbaugh.

Get 'em, Joe!

Those of us with actual brains, & can think for ourselves,
to make our decisions for us, tell us what to think or how to be, tell us whom to judge, or how to vote. From back in the days of the Crusades, religion has always been about a few men controlling other people. And they learned a long time ago that those who are most easily controlled are those with feeble minds and no free will.

SP's actual speech to secessionists

http://mediamatters.org/items/200809030019?f=h_latest

Please site an actual instance where anyone...sm
was banned from WEARING a religious symbol such as a cross, star of David or any other religious symbol to school.

my actual reason is more selfish than this...
I want to keep as much of my paycheck as I can to pay for the carpal tunnel release that I will eventually need!

What actual credible plot was NOT
many bombs struck your neighborhood? Girl, you need to get a life! Oh, that's right, you said you did already. Transcribing 3500 lines a day, then the rest of a day stirring the pot on an internet forum just isn't my idea of a life.

i would be the one losing my ACTUAL HOME
UNFORTUNATELY, I TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and i pay my mortgage, even if i was one of the ones that they should not have given a loan to. and i have an ARM, and an interest only loan, which i pay more to each month, etc. etc.... BUT if i was in default, maybe i'd get some help...

and you cannot deny that Clinton put this into action
and that McCain or Bush did not foresee it and ask for an overhaul.
no matter who is at fault WHO IS THE ONE THAT TRIED TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT LONG BEFORE THIS MESS???

I did - and I'm the one who provided the actual quote
Look. Just get this straight. If you know anything about Boehner at all, you will know perfectly well that he does not support the notion that cold rooms, sleep deprivation and caterpillars add up to torture.

Intellectual honesty is a wonderful thing. Waiting to "pounce" on any fortuitous language that suits your purpose when you know very well that's what you're doing is NOT intellectual honesty and speaks ill of the character of those who practice this form of charade. I certainly don't respect you for it, although I do respect honesty in political discourse. I wish it weren't so rare.

Pastime is an actual noun.
It means a way to pass the time (not something that happened in a past time.) The hyphen (that little horizontal line [-] thing) is wrong. No need for thanks, always glad to help an ESL Transcriptionist sharpen her skills.

Actual entry in Reagan's diary

Beneath is an actual quote that Reagan wrote about George "W" in his

diaries, recently edited by author Doug Brinkley and published by Harper

Collins

"A moment I've been dreading. George brought his n'er-do-well son around

this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one

who lives in Florida; the one who hangs around here all the time looking

shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a

real job. Maybe I'll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they'll

hire him as a contributing Editor or something. That looks like easy

work."

From the REAGAN DIARIES------entry dated May 17, 1986.

If you watched the actual show you might have understood it
Glenn Beck actually cares about what is going on in this country. He is giving the everyday American a chance to let our voices be heard.

If you go to his website (which I'm sure you wouldn't do) he talks about "Project 9.12". He talks about the 9 principles and 12 values. He's allowing people like you and me a chance to let our voices be heard. The country is going down a dark hole and if it doesn't get fixed we will never see the light again (AIG is just one of the many things that will bring it down).

Unlike whiny Olberlame or Mathpukes. Those two make my skin crawl. I can take Rachel Maddow to a certain extent but then she gets on her whiny role too. Your viewpoint of any other news station other than My Socialist News Butt Channel (MSNBC) is so pathetic in it's writing. If your going to go down the road of blatant money-grubbing, media hogs who pray on the pathetic then you are talking about the liberal media stations. Talk about praying on the pathetic ignor@nt. You want to see hate-spewing turn on the MSNBC crowd. When things don't go their way it's like watching a bunch of rabid dogs foaming at the mouth attaching anyone who doesn't agree with them.

Maybe it would be good to actually watch the Beck show before commenting on it because then you would at least might remotely possibly know what your talking about. Otherwise it looks like another agent of MSNBC is filtering on this board.

I guess you think that having people who are liberal on as guests and treating them with respect, letting them speak what's on their mind and saying. "Okay, I'll give you that. I may not agree with you, but your entitled to your opinions" I guess you consider that hateful spewing??? I don't get it. You go to MSNBC (watched that station through the Bush years because my viewpoints were more aligned with theirs), but after awhile you just gotta step back and say wait a minute, that's not fair no matter whether I don't like the other side or not. There is a time when you have to start thinking for yourself. Fox channel does that. They present issues and don't tell you how you should be thinking. They let you decide for yourself. They give both sides an equal chance. But if your one of those liberal loving all democrats do nothing wrong and all republicans do nothing right, and you only get your news from the liberal stations, then yes, what you wrote is true about the "pathetic uneducated half-wits that hang on every word of their hateful spewing garbage" by Mathpukes and Olberlame and the likes of that station.

In case you don't know, America is waking up and turning to Fox and turning off MSNBC, CNN and others because we want to hear the truth. Not the mean-spiritic spew that comes from those stations.

BTW - Fox has 1,217,000 viewers compared to the socialist MSNBC station of 480,000 and Communist News Network of 633,000. That's more than twice as many people. At least I feel like I'm in good company.

Here is the link to the actual letter on the boston globe...
website.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2008/08/31/son_sees_fathers_handiwork_in_convention/

Well, it certainly gives me more pause than abstinence and sex education.

BTW, no the actual sneak in the draft registration thing
nm

Whatever. How about addressing the actual issues I raised in my post for a change? (NT)

I don't think any sane person would say wishing Bush would die and burn in hell is an actual death

...particulary in the context of a heated political forum.

I think people are needing to create some drama to justify their actions.

The point is that both sides are naughty at times. I do notice more personal attacks by the C's though and I looked at the posts pretty carefully. The L's seem to rely on political/lifestyle issues to upset the C's and the C's just seem to respond with barking orders and making personal attacks (liberals are sissies, etc.)

The difference is that only the L's seem to be deleted and chastised on a regular basis. Isn't this rather unfair and un-American. It's called a double-standard and is not a pretty sight (and makes this not a pretty site)!!!!

Please describe the actual physical threat that you allege was made on this internet chat board.

Thank you.

What website did this come from?

I can take a guess.

Is there a website?
Do you know of websites where you can find out what others thing.

I am not voting for these two candidates and no one is even talking about the Independent candidates or any others. This is a really biased election.

website
www.barackobama.com-pdf-ObamaBlueprintForChange. I haven't read all the way through it yet, so I can't say any of it is actually doable or realistic. I think it's actually a very well put together thesis, but as far as a plan goes, I'm not so sure yet. Anyway, food for thought.

I can go to his website...
the question was about the economic crisis, not what his economic policies were prior to the crisis. Since the crisis he has said he doesn't know if he can go forward with all his plans...and when asked to be more specific, he can't. Which means zip, zilch, nada.

his website
John McCain's Higher Education Policy

Prepare for the 21st Century in Higher Education
America is facing increased competition from overseas like never before. Higher education is as much a part of that competition as the job sector, and we must rise to the challenge and modernize our universities so that they retain their status as producers of the most skilled workforce in the world. The answer is not to impose more regulations on institutions, but to encourage the government to support innovative approaches to education, removing regulatory barriers that prevent us from moving forward with new ideas.

Improve Information for Parents
Institutions report on hundreds of factors to the U.S. government every year, but the government does nothing with the information. Making this information available to families in a clear and concise manner will help more students make more informed choices about higher education.

Simplify Higher Education Tax Benefits
The existing tax benefits are too complicated, and many eligible families don�t claim them. By simplifying the existing benefits, I can ensure that a greater number of families have a lower tax burden when they are helping to send their children to college.

Simplify Federal Financial Aid
Too many programs and a complicated application process deter many eligible students from seeking student aid. The number of programs also makes it more difficult for financial aid officers to help students navigate the process. Consolidating programs will help simplify the administration of these programs, and help more students have a better understanding of their eligibility for aid.

Improve Research by Eliminating Earmarks
Earmarking is destroying the integrity of federally funded research. Billions of dollars are spent on pork barrel projects every year; significant amounts come from research budgets. Eliminating earmarks would immediately and significantly improve the federal government�s support for university research.

Fix the Student Lending Programs
We have seen significant turmoil in student lending. John McCain has proposed an expansion of the lender-of-last resort capability of the federal student loan system and will demand the highest standard of integrity for participating private lenders. Effective reforms and leveraging the private sector will ensure the necessary funding of higher education aspirations, and create a simpler and more effective program in the process.

John McCain's Plan for Strengthening America's Schools

Today, John McCain Outlined His Vision For Strengthening Education To Ensure Opportunity For Every American. John McCain's education policy removes needless bureaucracy, empowers parents, teachers and principals and ensures that every child has the opportunity to gain from a quality education.

John McCain's Education Principles:

John McCain Will Enact Meaningful Reform In Education. Now is the time to demand real, new reform earned through discipline, grinding work, tough choices and leadership. John McCain has dedicated his career in public service to the hard and sometimes unpopular work of achieving meaningful reform.

The Education System Must Provide For Equality Of Choice. Too many of our children are trapped by geography and by economics in failing schools.

We Must Empower Parents. Involved and empowered parents and excellent teachers are the two greatest determining factors in a child's education. If we are to succeed, we must empower committed parents with critical knowledge about their child's performance, and empower them with real and meaningful choices to act upon that knowledge.

We Must Empower Teachers. If America is to truly reform public education and make good on the promise of individual freedom and independence through knowledge, we must ensure that every child has the opportunity to be inspired and motivated to achieve their potential by a strong classroom leader.

John McCain's Education Policy:

John McCain Will Build On The Lessons Of No Child Left Behind (NCLB). There should be an emphasis on standards and accountability. However, our goal cannot be group averages. Instead, our focus should be to inspire every child to strive to reach his or her potential. While NCLB has been invaluable in providing a clear picture of which schools and students are struggling, it is only the beginning of education reform.

John McCain Will Provide Effective Education Leadership. John McCain is committed to high standards and accountability, but he is also committed to providing the resources needed to succeed. He believes we should invest in people, parents and reward achievement.

John McCain Will Work To Ensure That Our Children Have Quality Teachers. The single biggest challenge in turning around a failing school is getting quality teachers into that school. To overcome this challenge, John McCain will:

Encourage Alternative Certification Methods That Open The Door For Highly Motivated Teachers To Enter The Field. John McCain will devote five percent of Title II funding to states to recruit teachers who graduate in the top 25 percent of their class or who participate in an alternative teacher recruitment program such as Teach for America, the New York City Teaching Fellowship Program, the New Teacher Project, or excellent university initiatives.

Provide Bonuses For Teachers Who Locate In Underperforming Schools And Demonstrate Strong Leadership As Measured By Student Improvement. John McCain will devote 60 percent of Title II funding for incentive bonuses for high performing teachers to locate in the most challenging educational settings, for teachers to teach subjects like math and science, and for teachers who demonstrate student improvement. Payments will be made directly to teachers. Funds should also be devoted to provide performance bonuses to teachers who raise student achievement and enhance the school-wide learning environment. Principals may also consider other issues in addition to test scores such as peer evaluations, student subgroup improvements, or being removed from the state's "in need of improvement" list.

Provide Funding For Needed Professional Teacher Development. Where federal funds are involved, teacher development money should be used to enhance the ability of teachers to perform in today's technology driven environment. We need to provide teachers with high quality professional development opportunities with a primary focus on instructional strategies that address the academic needs of their students. The first 35 percent of Title II funding would be directed to the school level so principals and teachers could focus these resources on the specific needs of their schools.

John McCain Believes We Must Empower School Principals With Greater Control Over Spending. Funding cannot be effectively apportioned in Washington, but it shouldn't be a state-level official or district bureaucrat either. The money must be controlled by the leader we hold accountable: the school principal with a single criterion to raise student achievement.

John McCain Will Make Real The Promise Of NCLB By Giving Parents Greater Choice. Choice is the best way to protect children against a failing bureaucracy. But parents must have more control over the money.

John McCain Will Expand The D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program. In our nation's capital, we have seen the dramatic benefits of giving parents control of money and choices. The Opportunity Scholarship program serves more than 1,900 students from families with an average income of $23,000 a year. More than 7,000 more families have applied for that program. The budget for the Opportunity Scholarships is currently $13 million. John McCain believes that this extremely successful program should expand to at least $20 million benefiting nearly a thousand more families.

John McCain Will Ensure Children Struggling To Meet State Standards Will Have Immediate Access To High Quality Tutoring Programs. Local school districts can certify education service providers but providers can also bypass the local bureaucracy and receive direct federal certification. Education service providers can then market directly to parents. Title I money will be directed straight to the provider.

John McCain Supports Expanding Virtual Learning By Reforming The "Enhancing Education Through Technology Program." John McCain will target $500 million in current federal funds to build new virtual schools and support the development of online course offerings for students. These courses may be for regular coursework, for enhancement, or for dual enrollment into college.

John McCain Will Allocate $250 Million Through A Competitive Grant Program To Support States That Commit To Expanding Online Education Opportunities. States can use these funds to build virtual math and science academies to help expand the availability of AP Math, Science, and Computer Sciences courses, online tutoring support for students in traditional schools, and foreign language courses.

John McCain Will Offer $250 Million For Digital Passport Scholarships To Help Students Pay For Online Tutors Or Enroll In Virtual Schools. Low-income students will be eligible to receive up to $4,000 to enroll in an online course, SAT/ACT prep course, credit recovery or tutoring services offered by a virtual provider. Providers could range from other public schools, virtual charter schools, home school parents utilizing virtual schooling resources or district or state sponsored virtual schools. The Department of Education would competitively award the funds to a national scholarship administrator who would manage the student applications, monitoring, and evaluation of providers.

There's even a website!! LOL! (nm)
*

It has obviously been taken off his website since...(sm)

because of the backlash he got from it. However, others have a record.

http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/02/hannitys-america-what-kind-of.html

Great website!

I think the folks interviewed regarding Krgzystan (spelling?) definitely drank WAY too much Koolaid.

Great website.
I especially enjoyed the other topics such as 'Disney Does Democrats' and 'Starbucks and Mermaid Teats.' Yes, I am sure whatever that site has to say is 300% true.

Yes, you must have permission of that website to cut...sm
and paste anything, or any other website, so posting a link is the way to go.

Website recommendation. sm

As far as I can tell the below website is truly bipart. You will find info., dirt, whatever you want to call it on both sides. The front page does have more Rep. stuff at the moment, but that is because the RNC just go over with. It was just the opposite after the DNC. If anyone knows if it is not bipart. let me know as I have referred a few friends to it. If the site has already been posted, I apologize; I've been off the computer up until today. Here it is:

www.factcheck.org

Interesting website....

http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/

Whenyou get there, click on the clip of the documentary. Very illuminating...and not all that surprising.

Take this website and stick it
you know where. We all know PUBS are the ones who cheat. Please, what is wrong with you, really???

Can I get a witness, i mean website

I'm looking for a site that details these "bailout plans". I want to know what Capitol Hill wants to do with my tax money. Can anyone direct me to a website that is strictly factual, not politically driven to bias me to 1 party of the other, that would lay out the exact plan?

Website I'd like to share...

Disclaimer: It will probably not appeal to the McCain supporters, so need for you make snarky remarks about it.

I don't even know how I ended up at this site, but it has so many topics on it, instead of recommending a link just to one or two, I'll give the whole page. Be sure to scroll down.

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/ (although I don't consider myself a 'wonk' LOL)

Try the home page too:

http://thinkprogress.org/

One of my favorite political websites, that I've been going to every day (and causing me to spend far less time on this board) is Talking Points Memo: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

Would anyone else like to share their favorite websites that are lib or nonpartisan? TIA

An interesting website

I came across this. There are too many similarities. I'm not saying they are alike, but some other people have found these similarities. I for one found the most shocking part of it in the campaign poster from back then (same motto - I think Obama should have done some research first and picked a different motto).

http://yedies.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-campaign-not-unlike-adolf-hitlers.html

Messiah website...

http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/

No, I only just saw this website just now too...someone else posted it....sm
I only posted the article by Col. North because I like how he writes.

But it does look like there are people out there that think this way. I had no idea this website existed either, until just now. oh boy....good grief is definitely right.

I believe it is a website pointing out that there are...
people out there who do believe he is the "messiah." Not necessarily sent from God, but has become a deity to them. Did you read all the quotes on the site? Those are real quotes from real people...Obama DID use that "presidential seal" depicted there until people got outraged and he stopped using it. It is very, very concerning. And I think the answer is yes...there are a lot of people out there mesmerized by him. NO matter WHAT comes out of his mouth, they believe it. Did you see the star-gazed way they look at him? The kids "singing for their leader?" Wayyyy too freaky for me. Of course, I was not going to vote for him anyway because he is a flaming socialist, but this site would have given me serious pause if I had even thought about voting for him. Just my opinion.

And then you can tell her the real website
http://www.johnmccain.com/

This is from the LATimes website
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-video30-2008oct30,0,1408449.story

This is just an excerpt:

Editors at The Times and the reporter who wrote an article in April about Obama's connection to the Palestinian scholar, Rashid Khalidi, said they were ethically bound to abide by a promise to a confidential source not to share the video.

So they definitely do have the video, they are just "ethically bound" to not share it.

Since when does the news care about ethics? They are just loving the controversy and I'm sure their sales are up from everyone making a big hoopla about them.

might check his website,
mikehuckabee.com

They posted the website
It is just above the reply by email option. It is nice when people actually post links correctly. Thank you.

Did you ever think to check his website to see exactly
what this issue is about. The article sounds like it was written by Oral Roberts to tell you the truth. If something does not look nor sound right to me, I usually ignore. You ought to do the same and quit getting worked up over something that probably does not have a leg to stand on. In other words, ridiculous.

Amen...does he have a website?
Possibly peppering him with emails on suggestions we can present to our representatives and also employ ourselves would be beneficial.

A website was set up for her asking for donations....
mostly instead of donations she got death threats.