Interesting that there is money for........... sm
Posted By: m on 2009-05-05
In Reply to: Maybe you need to read it again - AnudderMT
studying why pigs smell but no money to put into SS. I agree that the loss of jobs across the nation has contributed in part to the SS dilemma, but it was in trouble long before this econmic setback. Clinton dang near broke SS with his borrowing from it for various reasons which Bush continued. Add to this the increasing number of people under the age of 65 who are drawing SS disability, many under fraudulant circumstances, and you have the larger reason for our SS system being almost bankrupt.
The senior population are who worked hard to make this country what it is and they deserve to be taken care of.
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Printing money we dont have? Borrowing money
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It takes money to make money. nm
Charging is not spending money...it is spending someone elses money!
When you are debt free (as we are) THEN you spend money...anything else is just going into debt. I highly doubt he pays cash for anything.
money was cut due to war
I have compassion for those affected by Katrina. It is Bush and his ilk that I have no compassion for. This article states that the money was cut in 2003 due to the war. That is why I posted it. Money has been cut to the states since Bush's war, we are strapped in many ways in America due to Bush's war. Open you eyes and see your president for what he is..a jerk, a low IQ imbecile, and for what he has done to America due to his war.
Money.........
Well, if they don't have money for birth control, they sure as shoot don't have it for a baby BUT in my neck of the woods, there are LOTS of illegitimate babies, mostly by mothers who started at 12, 13, 14 and by high school, had 2 or more. They even sit in school and brag about getting a bigger paycheck because they are pregnant again. Now, really, does that sound like someone who is interested in birth control in the first place? Some of these girls who get pregnant at 12 or 13 don't even think birth control. They usually get talked into sex by a guy several years older than them in the first place, and he is a loser anyway, and usually has fathered several babies already anyhow. And, belive me, most of these girls because of community experiences, already know where the clinics are and they can get there. They sure as heck don't have a problem getting there for all the free healthcare their child gets, usually in the ER on Friday and Saturday night because they are too lazy to get to the clinic through the week. Planned Parenthood isn't doing anything positive for them.
No, I would rather the money be used for ..sm
necessities for Alaska instead of asking the lower 48+1 to subsidize them.
The money that has gone to the war...
has been appropriated for that specific purpose. It was not just lying around waiting to be spent, so there is no reason to believe that if the war were not going on that amount of money would be spent elsewhere. That is not how the government works.
If the government did not help these institutions out, it would destabilize the economy which could trickle down to our banks and what little money we have in them. At least they learned from the fannie/freddie fiasco...when they gave the loan to AIG they kicked the top folks who ran it out, with no golden parachute and will oversee it...and in this case, finally...since it is a loan...if they stay solvent and pay it back the interest will benefit us all as it will go back into the coffers with the principal.
Exactly the kind of thing McCain has been talking about for years. Glad Bush finally listened.
yes, you can if it is your money..
I have done it already.
Sure there are.......you want all your money given as
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Of course you would....it's not your money
You'd be screaming a different tune. Even those without it have better sense than to believe this is a terrible thing. The more he makes, the more people he can hire. So clueless and bitter
No, that's not where he's getting his money
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I don't think money should be taken from those
who make more AT ALL. I think there should be a tax PERCENTAGE and it is based on income so it is even across the board. I don't think those who make $200,000 should have a higher percentage than those who make $30,000. There is enough crap out there that doesn't need funding that can go to those who HONESTLY need help.
Those who HONESTLY need help are those who are trying to do something to get out of the whole and can't. Not those who go and buy a house that is way out of their price range, or who pop out 7 or 8 kids just to get food stamps. Not those who live in section 8 government housing for $60 a month and then buy a brand new BMW in someone elses name because they make money selling drugs or working under the table and not reporting it.
I said it is based on grades ALSO. Meaning it is based on both income and grades. Which means if I don't TRY and keep my grades up no matter how little money I make, I'm not going to receive it. That's the difference. No one seems to want to TRY anymore. Everyone just wants more, more, more, and they are doing less, less, less.
My argument is that those who do well for themselves should not have to pay for those who don't give a hoot and don't try to do well for themselves and just sit back and try to let daddy government take care of them.
Where did all that money come from?
Scam after scam keeps coming out. Phony donators sending money with prepaid credit cards that can't be traced. Gee, wonder where the money is coming from ? He is not honest or truthful about anything, and so many people trusting him with their future...sad.
With all the money that
Barrack Obama raised for his campaign.....I wonder who he owes now? I mean....surely some of these people who gave a bunch of money want something in return. Are there promises Obama has promised to keep to individuals who gave him money that we don't know about? This is one reason why I hate political parties. The DNC raised all that money and you have some serious extreme left psychos who gives money and then they want something in return. Does this make Barrack Obama the democratic party puppet now? How does that work?
Where is all this money going to come from?nm
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so where does all this money come from and
when do we STOP bailing companies out? I was not a fan of the first bailout. I think that in the end, all of this will make things much worse and we are just slowing down the process. I understand that both McCain and Bush wanted the bailout, but I am capable of thinking for myself. If you want the auto industry to keep up employment, I would think that the best way to make that happen is to buy American cars, bot hand them over a lot of my hard earned money. I think that the money I paid for my car is enough.
where the money comes from
Okay, those are some interesting links. I feel even better about the job banks program now, because, check it out--this program was *created* to discourage outsourcing. The union felt like it made it too expensive for the car companies to outsource jobs. So the car companies obviously did some calculations and discovered that they could pay these guys not to work, AND outsource, AND still make money (that they failed to make money has less to do with those out of work guys, I suspect, than it does with decades of misreading consumer preferences!). So if this program is a big money-suck, it's only because they insisted on outsourcing.
It's also great to see that this job bank was not available for workers until AFTER they had exhausted their unemployment benefits--and that *those* benefits were also being funded by the automakers. So our tax dollars don't really have much to do with the story. As for the bailout...well, personally I'd rather the bailout money help actual people, rather than Wall Street, so I'm not really concerned about some guys playing checkers.
(as for the $31 an hour, I'm still having trouble doing the math on how a $5 billion dollar committment by GM for 4 years for 5000 workers works out to $31 an hour, but I'll let it go for now!)
I fuss (I like that word!) about spreading the wealth from rich to poor, and about these auto workers, because I think they represent an important case for us to learn from. How will we protect *our* livelihoods? Can companies begin to take us into account, and not at the same time do the same stupid mistakes that always bankrupt them, and not make it look like *our* fault that they're going bankrupt?
me too, me too - I want some of that money
Although I don't use sm as my handle. Does that disqualify me. LOL
why not put the money to better use
come on, there are much better things those donors could do with some of that that money than a ridiculously overpriced a party, for pete's sake.
We owe them money. (NM below)
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Really! Well, that was exactly what the money was
before they used it illegally push Obama into office...... please stop falling for all this mumbo jumbo hype about non-profit organizations. Acorn will get the money regardless because the liberals nut jobs up there will see to it.
I say - take the money and run!!
from what I've seen, Michigan's economy has been in the toilet for decades...you guys NEED the money - let's just hope they don't do idiotic sh*t like build new malls or luxury hotels...........
Them using their own money???????
Why should they use their own money when they've got ours.
Please show me the link that says they are using their own money from their own bank accounts to fund their party. If I see it I will eat my words and apologize. But it's not just the money.
It's them turning the WH into a party house. This is not what the white house is suppose to be for. And in these times when we have so many people loosing their jobs, and homes, and going hungry this is sending the wrong message to America. "Hey, your out of work, getting ready to lose your home, hungry? Well hold on and I'll address that when I'm done partying dude".
But where does the money come from?
Tax dollars, right? So what O'Reilly stated was really true.
BTW, glad to see you admit to watching Fox once in a while, even if you don't agree with them. 
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This is interesting. SM
I did hear on the news the person that leaked this story is a former coworker of Roberts named Walter Smith who is somehow associated with "People For the American Way", an anti-Christian hate group. It's my belief that this was meant to turn the Republicans against Roberts. Well, big surprise, it didn't work. They have to be shaking their heads.
Somewhat interesting.
AR, posting in a message line that someone is irrational is not the most innocent of maneuvers, so let's not waste too much time congratulating you on your imaginary moral superiority. I sometimes maneuver that way myself but I don't deceive myself into thinking it was anything but honest hostility and I don't act surprised when people respond in kind. So sorry if there was a misunderstanding just in case there was, I'm always willing to give a benefit of a doubt - once or twice. After that you get what you get.
That said and out of the way, what is it about the rest of Bennett's statement that you believe exonerates the controversial part? I did hear the whole thing and I don't know what you're referring to in that respect.
Yup, will be interesting,
Apparently there is a crucial email somewhere that has gone missing and there are some inconsistencies in the testimony. We'll see. I'm sure they'll try to explain it all away.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9630676/site/newsweek
interesting
From John Stossel's Myths, Lies and Straight Talk (link at bottom)
MYTH #8 — Republicans Shrink the Government
Republicans always trot out the slogan that they oppose big government and want to shrink the federal payroll. President Bush tells us that big government is not the answer.
President Reagan told us, Our government is too big and it spends too much.
But for more than 75 years, no Republican administration has cut the size of government. Since George W. Bush became president, government spending has risen nearly 25 percent.
And the spending increase isn't just tied to the war on terrorism. The Office of Management and Budget says spending at the Environmental Protection Agency is up 12 percent; it's up 14 percent at the Agriculture Department, 30 percent at the Department of the Interior; 64 percent at the Department of Labor, and 70 percent at the Department of Education.
And the pork keeps pouring out. Even the Peanut Festival in Dothan, Ala., got $200,000.
Alabama congressman Terry Everett, a Republican, got them the money. He wouldn't talk to us about it, but the locals said they like getting your money. I think it's a waste of money, but if they're going to waste money, I guess it's better to waste it here than anywhere else, one man told me.
Economist Stephen Moore, a Republican, says, We fought a war against big government and you know what? Big government won.
He noted, You look at what's happened to the government in the 10 years since the Republicans took control of Congress, the government is twice as big.
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123606
Yes, I saw that too, PK. It will be interesting, no?
This is interesting...sm
I heard this a few days ago, but since everyone only pays attention to articles in mainstream papers and TV news, thought I would post it. Could explain why Bush is acting like a brat. The pressure coming from the families, the public, and the truth movements is getting intense.
Apparently, CIA officers are buying legal insurance to cover the cost of their defense should they be indicted by a federal grand jury for their roles in 9/11. They are worried that the results of an internal CIA investigation into some CIA agents’ roles in 9/11 may soon become public and the public outcry would immediately lead to their arrest for murder and conspiracy among other charges.
CIA officers who are charged with something that was done in the line of duty, i.e., for something that is constitutional and legal; are defended by the largest law firm in the world; the U.S. Justice Department. However, for illegal and unconstitutional charges they are on their own. That is why this private legal insurance has suddenly become so attractive to some employees of the CIA; they know that they will not be defended by the Justice Department because what they did was so illegal and reprehensible. That is why they are busy buying private legal insurance. For a well-researched, excellent article found in the mainstream media see the Washington Post for R. Jeffrey Smith’s story titled, “CIA Officers Buy Legal Insurance”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/10/AR2006091001286.html?nav=hcmodule
Interesting
OKay, so based on your analogy.....if someone trespasses on my land with intent to do me harm and I order them off my property and remind them that it is illegal to harm me or to trespass......you imply that I am NOT allowed to mention what the law states and that it is illegal for them to harm me UNLESS I am a law enforcement officer?
Very interesting view of the world you have.
You never stated a time frame for cons ordering liberals off the board, ....you stated it was never done and that suggests an indefinite period of time. Once again, pretty shoddy logic.
Interesting
Guess I shouldn't assume we all learned the same things!! We were always taught that Job was most probably performed as a play and was a teaching piece, not the actual word of G-d.
It is interesting to hear what others have been taught, within the same faith, as well.
interesting that everyone behind him on TV
I don't get that.....why is everyone behind him, around him, in every speech/TV appearance....white? I see nearly no black people around him EVER....this is what I do not understand.
Very interesting!
Isn't disclosure is a beautiful thing? and this could be the beginning of the fall for the Bush administration. Gratifying that people are beginning to speak out about the incompetent Iraqi policy that has been implemented. However, this film seems to be chronical just a few months of 2003 and wonder why that is. The review from the New York Times was also very interesting. I encourage anyone to read it. Doesn't look like it's going to hit too many theaters, so it looks like I will be buying it and loaning it out!
Yep...some of that is very interesting....
I would venture a guess that part of the reason poverty has "gone up" is that social programs run amok are starting to erase the middle class, and those who used to be in the "middle class" are now in the "poverty" class...as entitlements extend higher and higher up the income ladder and the "poverty" threshold right along with it. That is why they quote a lot of ballpark statistics and none of the specifics.
I would also venture a guess that as teen births have gone down, teen abortions have gone up.
I think you hit the nail on the head with the broad overview comment...but what they never tell you is, as Paul Harvey would put it..."the rest of the story."
There are usually mitigating factors that go into any statistic. I am not a big fan of ballpark statistics....as you can see.
:-) Have a great day, piglet!
I did. Very interesting!
This was actually the first debate I watched this year. I wanted to watch the others but just missed them somehow. I will definitely be watching them from now on! I found it so interesting, and it really gave me more hope about our country's future. I just loved hearing so many great ideas for the future of America (from all of the candidates). I have been very discouraged over the last 7 years. Things just keep getting worse and worse and worse. I cannot wait to have a strong, intelligent leader running this country who can help heal our very injured nation!
I was most impressed with Joe Biden, Bill Richardson, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton. I don't know if Richardson has what it takes, but I loved what he had to say about education being the most important thing (I agree!) and just how he presented himself and his ideas in general. Biden seems to have the experience behind him and a good solid head on his shoulders, and I really appreciated his ability to get right to the point instead of dancing around aimlessly.
Obama may not have had the strongest night (and I was not happy about how he interrupted Hillary!), but he is my favorite candidate, so I am giving him the benefit of the doubt because I know where he stands on the issues more than I know any other candidate. He just needed to be much more quick and direct with some of his answers, but of course, I still think he's the man. :) I do fully expect him to learn from his mistakes and completely wow me at the next debate.
Hillary is a very impressive politician. I really find her to be extremely intelligent, extremely strong, and very likeable in general. She would indeed be an incredibly strong leader for this country. She is a great speaker. Although people keep talking about how she is being attacked, I do agree with a lot of the critism she receives on her voting record and her alliances (best word I could think of) with major corporations. That makes me a bit nervous because to me one of the biggest problems in America is that the corporations are using our politicians like their own personal puppets. However, I am really impressed with her knowledge overall and how she plans to turn this country around, and obviously we would be at least 100 times better off having her in office than Bush and the current sorry excuse for an administration! January of 2009 cannot come soon enough.
That's very interesting (sm)
I am also related to the Bush family and others on that list. I guess it's possible that I am related to Obama as well. I don't know if any of them are/were Muslim, but I am. I love geneaology!
Wow - quite interesting
Very interesting articles - and video clips.
Dick Morris was an advisor to the Bill Clinton administration. He was also the campaign manager of Clinton's successful 96 re-election. He knows the Clintons inside and out. Very interesting reading (and watching).
http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/
Very interesting
I'm not a big fan of either candidate, but I definiately have noticed much more info on Obama than McCain this year. What I think is sad about the so-called "Big Media" is that they are supposed to be keeping us informed of what is going on with everything, but they seem to pick and choose what we need to hear. It seems you have to watch several different news programs to get the whole story on what's going on. Of course, if you go back in time, it's always been this way - even in the days of Thomas Jefferson running for President, where people would pay newspapers to print the stories they wanted the public to read. Presidential campaigns have never been pretty and some have been downright nasty- I don't see that changing any time soon, no matter who the favored son may be.
That is interesting ...
I'm not trying to bash your opinion just making an observation about how 2 people look at the same thing and see 2 different things.
You said you felt that Bush did a good job in keeping the country safe after 9/11, etc. I look at the situation as Bush preying on our fears and using them to invade Iraq. We did a fast hit on Afghan. which was needed, but then that was it. Osama bin Laden is still at large (maybe dead for all we really know) and he was behind the whole incident. But we have torn apart Iraq for what real reason? Oil. It can be sugar coated and denied, but we all know that is what it was. It wasn't for any supposed WMD that he knew were not there.
I don't think our country can take more war, and that is what McCain has said he believes in (unless he has since changed that statement).
I believe Bush has done more hurt than good for this country, our country. BTW, I am an independent too and will be voting Democrat.
interesting
The paragraph above it (not included in chart) states Obama's plan benefits the lowest income brackets while JM's benefits the middle class (if you make $5 million or more per year- joke) or the upper class. Go to the website and read the paragraph above the chart.
where was this from? interesting...
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It will be interesting to see......
if the Enq. is right again. They finally gained a few crumbs of credibility with the John Edwards issue..........if they can drag him through the dirt, then anyone is game!!!!
interesting....
I have seen 3 different versions of that video. I know they are different because the singing is different. This one is AWFUL!! But anyway, don't believe all those videos. They can be doctored just like anything else.
interesting how you...sm
how you make a personal attack, when I was just pointing out that you missed some discussion below, and that you're misinformed in part of your post.
Just because you say something often enough, doesn't make it come true.
And my skin is just lovely, thanks for asking.
Something interesting...had not seen this before...
Obama to Pakistan in 1981....
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008%5C04%5C11%5Cstory_11-4-2008_pg7_32
Interesting.......
For those who haven’t yet seen it, here is the accompanying summary of a 2003 New York Times Article:
September 11, 2003
New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae
By STEPHEN LABATON
The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.
The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.
The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.
... Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.
‘’These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,’’ said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ‘’The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.’’
Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.
‘’I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,’’ Mr. Watt said
That's interesting because all I kept
So did he forget he already said that?
Also, he laughed in the background and wanted extra time to talk? Does he need extra time to do everything? At least Obama respected the fact that John McCain was talking and didn't laugh and smile with an evil grin. He would gently say "you are wrong about that John" and that's pretty much it. There was no smirk that I could see.
Senator Obama was very cordial, but I thought John McCain was egotistical and trying to quote people "of importance" as if that is going to make a difference.
How many times do we need to hear the bracelet story?
Again, I repeat again, he has the same old Bush way of doing things, which is the same old way for the past 8 years.
We need change and we need it for the middle class not the tycoons who are already wallowing in money one of them being John McCain and the others being all his croneys...
I saw that...quite interesting
I watched it this morning and just tried pulling it up for DH and its gone. Music rights my foot. Probably they didn't like the contents.
And just to keep it interesting and keep
He's changing it again. Needs his advisors to redo it all; he's changed his mind.
Need to keep up!!!
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