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Interestingly............. sm

Posted By: m on 2009-02-05
In Reply to: The economy crashed before Obama was sworn in.. - sm

the economy tanked about the time that Obama was elected. Things were not good before then, but they really went south fast after it was announced that Obama had won the election. Curious, don't you think?


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Interestingly, you write:

"Obama is flying on the premise that he is innocent until proven guilty..."


That's what the Constitution you claim to support so much demands:  Innocent until proven guilty (and not a word about "flying on the premise" of same).


I'm just curious.  Once this bogus b/c issue is "officially" revealed as such by the SC, you have promised to let this issue go.


What's next on your list to pound this man into the ground about?  Because it's obvious that you're never going to give him an honest, fair chance to be a good president.  (He hasn't even been sworn in yet.)


So what's the next bogus issue on the agenda that will be raised to continue to try to drag him (and the country) down?


My last question:  Did you complain as vigorously about George W. Bush's blatant contempt for the Constitution that you claim to love so much?


Interestingly, other atrocities on US soil...(sm)

since 9/11 have not come from the usual suspects, but rather from our own government.  I'm going to go with the patriot act that pretty much killed the constitution, an unjust war that has not only killed numerous Americans but has also destroyed any credibility of the US, and then there's Gitmo and torture, all perpetrated right here in the good ol USA.


If those aren't atrocities, I don't know what is.


Interestingly, a lot have no clue how manipulated things are by them. sm
Their corporations own the media, Hollywood, Federal Reserve and, yes, even politicians. I definitely see Bush as a puppet, but many say he is not as dumb as everyone thinks, maybe dumb when convenient.

Anyway, the US government has a history of creating incidents and being dishonest to get public support for wars. Thanks to the Freedom of Information Act and declassification of documents, we now know to be fact:

1. Operations Northwoods
Unexecuted plan created by US military to stage a fake attack by Cuba against the US for the purpose of justifying war with Cuba. Documented fact.

2. Tonkin Incident
That thrust us into Vietnam - pretty much now common knowledge that it never happend. Jittery sailors and/or radar abberations leveraged by LBJ to gain popular support for unpopular war, and a blank check from congress.

3. Pearl Harbor
Long held rumor backed by some fairly compelling evidence that FDR both instigated and was aware that the Japanese would attack. At the time 89% of the US population did not want to be involved in Europe's war...

The fact remains that when the government remains secret and manipulative after an attack on the United States, when an administration uses an attack to further its own political goals, puts money in the pockets of its corporate cronies, it makes people tend to question what they are told and to not believe anything the administration says. Bush has made it worse still by lying about nearly every single detail concerning the Iraq invasion, specifically why we invaded. The more lies we hear, the less we believe and the farther back we start to question.

A quote from PNAC's Rebuilding America's Defenses:

Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor.
PNAC - page 50.