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I think Larry Craig has the weird butt..he even has a wide stance! nm

Posted By: sm on 2009-02-06
In Reply to: Thanks to Barney Frank and his snivling - weird butt!!!!!NM

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Larry Craig/W phone transcript
http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2007/09/larry-craig.asp
Don't forget Larry "Don't Squeeze the Charmin" Craig...

...whose appeal was denied just today.


Sen. Craig loses appeal in airport sex sting case



MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Idaho Sen. Larry Craig has lost his latest attempt to withdraw his guilty plea in a Minneapolis airport men's room sex sting.


A three-judge panel of the Minnesota Court of Appeals on Tuesday rejected the Republican's bid to toss out his disorderly conduct conviction.


Craig was arrested in June 2007 in a Minneapolis airport bathroom stall by an undercover officer who said the senator solicited sex.


He pleaded guilty to the misdemeanor and paid a fine, but changed his mind after word of his arrest became public. Craig insisted he was innocent, but the case effectively ended his political career.


Craig's attorney argued before the appeals court this September that there was insufficient evidence for any judge to find him guilty. Prosecutors said his guilty plea should stand.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iM7VsmCI91xXDASkhgtGf3_zk__gD94V9JQ00


I'm wide awake, thank you very much.
Terrorism breeds terrorism. Occupation is the ultimate terrorist act and so is blind support and enabling 6 decades of it.
My eyes are wide open, but I do not see
things the way you want me to see them.
Sometimes, Zauber, you just leave yourself wide open.

Robert Bennett was CLINTON'S lawyer during several of his sexual harrassment lawsuits and the Monica fiasco.  Yes, he is a real Republican partisan.  Sheesh.


gt you're the queen of wide sweeping generalizations
a taste of your own medicine is kind of bitter ain't it.
JM was scheduled for Larry King the
other night but he got upset because they were asking questions about SP.....
craig crawford
Im amazed, actually delighted that more and more republicans who actually always towed the republican line, defending the republican president are speaking out.  Craig Crawford, I used to watch him on the McLaughlin Report and he was a republican and defender of republicans.  Well, I have been reading some posts by him and his tune is a little changed, not so much the blinded republican, defending no matter what..I think its great.
By any chance, you catch Larry King?
To begin with, I was a pregnant teen and most definitively will be voting for Obama. The other unwed mother poster is voting for Obama too in case you hadn't noticed. Bully, fear and threat tactics are not effective.

His candidacy is alive and well and has nothing to do with this issue and how it is going to play out. Tonight, Larry King's panel were talking this subject up one side and down the other. Every single issue that was raised today in these posts on this board were touched upon....every single one. SP is in the political arena now. Unfortunately, she has put her daughter there too. The issues surrounding this will be politicized. You can't stop this train.
Who watched Larry King last night?

They were talking about the idea of implementing a stimulus package for (in particular) the auto industry.  Well, turns out that they have already been trying to pass a stimulus package and I'll give you one guess as to who's blocking that.  In the meantime if the auto industry goes down that's another 2-3 million jobs.  Nice going Bush!


P.S. about Greg Craig appointment
Greg Craig was appointed by Obama as White House counsel.  Craig certainly has Clinton ties, as he represented Bill Clinton in Clinton's impeachment proceedings.
the Scottish guy is Craig Ferguson...nm
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I do. Leaves the door wide open for blatant health care fraud..

Maybe if we all supported family planning and free contraceptives - WORLD WIDE - abortion would no l
And I know of not a single person who thinks abortion is "wonderful", only an occasionally necessary evil.
Bush tells Larry King that Ken Lay was a *good guy*

Video at:  http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/07/bush-lay/


Transcript:



KING: The death of Ken Lay.


G. BUSH: Yes, yes.


KING: I know he was your friend. How do you feel? Were you shocked?


G. BUSH: I was. I was very surprised. You know, just — my hope is that his heart was right with the Lord, and I feel real sorry for his wife. She’s had a rough go, and she’s now here on earth to bear the burdens of losing her husband, a man she loved.


KING: Was that whole thing, the whole Enron story shocking to you?


G. BUSH: Yes, yes.


KING: Because, I mean, you knew him pretty well from Texas, right?


G. BUSH: Pretty well, pretty well. I knew him. I got to know him. This — people don’t believe this, but he actually supported Ann Richards in the ‘94 campaign.


KING: She told me that.


G. BUSH: She did?


KING: She liked him a lot.


G. BUSH: Yes, he’s a good guy. And so what I did — then did was we had a business council, and I kept him on as the chairman of the business council. And, you know, got to know him and got to see him in action.


One of the things I respected him for was he was such a contributor to Houston’s civil society. He was a generous person. I’m disappointed that there was this — he betrayed the trust of shareholders, but…


KING: Did you know him well, Mrs. Bush?


L. BUSH: I knew him. Not really well, but I did know him.


KING: Did you know his wife?


L. BUSH: And I know Linda and I’m sorry for her.


KING: Did you contact her?


L. BUSH: I haven’t.


G. BUSH: I haven’t yet. I’m going to write her a letter at some point in time.


 

Caught him on Larry King one night last week.
He's a very funny and intelligent man....
I saw part pf Larry King Monday night.
He was trashing Palin and laughing at Stephanie Miller's really nasty jokes. The media have intruded into where they should have never gone. They have laughed and acted better than women from small town, kind of like Obama calling us bitter and clinging to our guns and God.She has been given the Bork and Clarence Thomas treatment. It is a very sad day for all women. They did this to Hillary, just not to the extreme in such a short time. The media really really want Obama to win.
If you missed Craig T Nelson (Coach)

on Glenn Beck a couple of days ago, use the links below to see part of the video or read the transcript.  It concerned a tax revolt and whether or not anyone would be willing to stop paying taxes and go to jail.   Besides being a very funny man, Nelson was inspiring when he said he never voted to be part owner of GM or for any of the other nonsense going on today.  He does not want to stick his children, grandchildren and the great grandchild on the way with the tab for all of this irresponsible spending. 


video:  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/29/video-craig-t-nelson-s-gl_n_209024.html


transcript:  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,522939,00.html


Yet she conveniently overlooks Obama's gay affair with Larry Sinclair.
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Have you read Attack the Messenger by Craig Crawford...sm
He was on Fox and Friends today talking about the press and politics and I'm wondering if this is a good book?
Paul Craig Roberts: "Gullible Americans." sm
Dr. Roberts is Chairman of the Institute for Political Economy and Research Fellow at the Independent Institute. He is a former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, former contributing editor for National Review, and was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He is the co-author of The Tyranny of Good Intentions. In this, his latest article, he takes on the propaganda and lies that surround the Liquid Terror plot.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14531.htm



"America's Shame", by Paul Craig Roberts, former

http://www.vdare.com/roberts/090111_shame.htm


 


Well, here is my stance on the subjects.


1. Homosexual marriage:  For it.  If homosexual couples are afforded other freedoms, I am for this one too.  If they are allowed to adopt children, they should be allowed to get legally married in the eyes of the state.


2. Welfare:  Not for it. I do, however, believe in subsidies to provide help for those in need.  Welfare needs an upgrade.


3. Abortion:  I am for the right of choice and the right to privacy on these matters.


Hope your poll helps clarifies things for you. 


Here is my stance and my reasoning

for what I said above.  Government shouldn't have 80% of AIG.  They should have let AIG fall on its face.  They shouldn't have given them money in the first place. 


Here is a little blurp I've copied:  I will provide the link below.


On March 5, New York Fed officials forwarded to the Treasury Department a summary of AIG’s bonus and retention payment issues, including details of the retention program for officials of the Financial Products. This information included that $165 million in payments were expected that very month, as well as the fact that the contracts were in place in the first quarter of 2008, and so not covered by the limitations in the stimulus bill as articulated by an amendment to the stimulus bill offered by Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn.


As ABC News' Capitol Hill Correspondent Jonathan Karl reported, in February, the Senate unanimously approved an amendment restricting bonuses over $100,000 at any company receiving federal bailout funds, but during the closed-door House and Senate negotiations the provision was stripped out and replaced with a measure by Dodd exempting bonuses agreed to prior to the passage of the stimulus bill on February 11, 2009.


 


You can read the whole article at this link:  http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/obama-adminis-1.html


So this basically shows that these bonuses were pushed through by Dodd and so the government had its hand in giving out these bonuses and now they are going to turn around and take that away.  It is a contract.  I understand that AIG got butt loads of money from the government.....which was wrong in the first place.....but don't you see how scary it is for our government to have this kind of control and power.  To give and take away at the drop of a hat.  To null and void a contract that someone in government (Dodd) pushed through to make happen and then they turn around and want to tax it to death or just take it from them. 


Why in the he!! did Dodd get this slipped in there in the first place?  that is the real question.  This wouldn't even be an issue.  Dodd slips this in because he received the highest amount of money from AIG.  So of course he wanted to pay back the hand that fed him...so to speak.  And guess who had the second highest amount of contributions from AIG.....Barrack Obama.....   So Dodd slips this through and allows a loophole for the AIG execs to get their big ars bonuses and now that it has gone public and people are furious......now government wants to take control and make them give the money back.  Isn't it the governments fault in the first place....first for bailing them out and then for letting this loophole slip by to pay back AIG for contributions to campaigns. 


This is why our government sucks.  They don't care about Americans.  All they care about is getting money back to the groups, etc. who contributed money to their campaign.  That is why we can't get away from wasteful spending and earmarks.


Joy isn't happy unless it's HER stance

 on politics. She forever tries to make a laughing stock out of everyone who doesn't share her views. I think she is ridiculous and I get a kick out of her when she cracks a "supposed funny" but no one laughs. She is he11 bent on views so much, she makes me sick. I don't see where or why she is part of that program. It's supposed to be open topics, but when someone she likes it on the program, she keeps her mouth shut. I just wish she would keep it shut more often.


Paleocon Paul Craig Roberts: A Criminal Administration
Conservative Columnist Paul Craig Roberts: A Criminal Administration



A Criminal Administration
by Paul Craig Roberts

Caught in gratuitous and illegal spying on American citizens, the Bush administration has defended its illegal activity and set the Justice (sic) Department on the trail of the person or persons who informed the New York Times of Bush's violation of law. Note the astounding paradox: The Bush administration is caught red-handed in blatant illegality and responds by trying to arrest the patriot who exposed the administration's illegal behavior.

Bush has actually declared it treasonous to reveal his illegal behavior! His propagandists, who masquerade as news organizations, have taken up the line: To reveal wrong-doing by the Bush administration is to give aid and comfort to the enemy.

Compared to Spygate, Watergate was a kindergarten picnic. The Bush administration's lies, felonies, and illegalities have revealed it to be a criminal administration with a police state mentality and police state methods. Now Bush and his attorney general have gone the final step and declared Bush to be above the law. Bush aggressively mimics Hitler's claim that defense of the realm entitles him to ignore the rule of law.

Bush's acts of illegal domestic spying are gratuitous because there are no valid reasons for Bush to illegally spy. The Foreign Intelligence Services Act gives Bush all the power he needs to spy on terrorist suspects. All the administration is required to do is to apply to a secret FISA court for warrants. The Act permits the administration to spy first and then apply for a warrant, should time be of the essence.

The problem is that Bush has totally ignored the law and the court. Why would President Bush ignore the law and the FISA court? It is certainly not because the court in its three decades of existence was uncooperative. According to attorney Martin Garbus (New York Observer, 12/28/05), the secret court has issued more warrants than all federal district judges combined, only once denying a warrant.

Why, then, has the administration created another scandal for itself on top of the WMD, torture, hurricane, and illegal detention scandals?

There are two possible reasons.

One reason is that the Bush administration is being used to concentrate power in the executive. The old conservative movement, which honors the separation of powers, has been swept away. Its place has been taken by a neoconservative movement that worships executive power.

The other reason is that the Bush administration could not go to the FISA secret court for warrants because it was not spying for legitimate reasons and, therefore, had to keep the court in the dark about its activities.

What might these illegitimate reasons be? Could it be that the Bush administration used the spy apparatus of the US government in order to influence the outcome of the presidential election?

Could we attribute the feebleness of the Democrats as an opposition party to information obtained through illegal spying that would subject them to blackmail?

These possible reasons for bypassing the law and the court need to be fully investigated and debated. No administration in my lifetime has given so many strong reasons to oppose and condemn it as has the Bush administration. Nixon was driven from office because of a minor burglary of no consequence in itself. Clinton was impeached because he did not want the embarrassment of publicly acknowledging that he engaged in adulterous sex acts in the Oval Office. In contrast, Bush has deceived the public and Congress in order to invade Iraq, illegally detained Americans, illegally tortured detainees, and illegally spied on Americans. Bush has upheld neither the Constitution nor the law of the land. A majority of Americans disapprove of what Bush has done; yet, the Democratic Party remains a muted spectator.

Why is the Justice (sic) Department investigating the leak of Bush's illegal activity instead of the illegal activity committed by Bush? Is the purpose to stonewall Congress' investigation of Bush's illegal spying? By announcing a Justice (sic) Department investigation, the Bush administration positions itself to decline to respond to Congress on the grounds that it would compromise its own investigation into national security matters.

What will the federal courts do? When Hitler challenged the German judicial system, it collapsed and accepted that Hitler was the law. Hitler's claims were based on nothing but his claims, just as the claim for extra-legal power for Bush is based on nothing but memos written by his political appointees.

The Bush administration, backed by the neoconservative Federalist Society, has brought the separation of powers, the foundation of our political system, to crisis. The Federalist Society, an organization of Republican lawyers, favors more energy in the executive. Distrustful of Congress and the American people, the Federalist Society never fails to support rulings that concentrate power in the executive branch of government. It is a paradox that conservative foundations and individuals have poured money for 23 years into an organization that is inimical to the separation of powers, the foundation of our constitutional system.

September 11, 2001, played into neoconservative hands exactly as the 1933 Reichstag fire played into Hitler's hands. Fear, hysteria, and national emergency are proven tools of political power grabs. Now that the federal courts are beginning to show some resistance to Bush's claims of power, will another terrorist attack allow the Bush administration to complete its coup?

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Dr. Roberts is John M. Olin Fellow at the Institute for Political Economy and Research Fellow at the Independent Institute. He is a former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, former contributing editor for National Review, and a former assistant secretary of the U.S. Treasury. He is the co-author of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.

Copyright © 2006 Creators Syndicate

WE KNOW Observer. You have made your stance
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Obama stance on terrorism....
This latest quote of his just says to me he doesn't get it, especially where Muslim extremists are concerned:

At a fundraising luncheon, he said he told Gilani "the only way we're going to be successful in the long term in defeating extremists ... is if we are giving people opportunities. If people have a chance for a better life, then they are not as likely to turn to the ideologies of violence and despair."

What kind of opportunities is he talking about giving them? And it does not matter what you give them...it is not about despair. I guess he did not see the poll done recently of Muslim students in London...way over half polled said it was okay to kill in the name of Islam, in fact it should be done; and way more than half thought Sharia law should be part of English law and supercede it in most cases. These Muslims are not in despair. Obama does not get it, he does not understand it, and that makes him plenty dangerous. Just like he says we cannot drill our way out of the energy crunch (and I disagree with that...might not drill our way out completely but certainly could take a bite out of our foreign oil dependance while working on those alternative forms of energy, which I do support...but there are no immediate answers there either)...we cannot talk Muslim "extremists" out of their extremism. And to think we can is naive at best and that is the nicest way I can put it.
Here's one. Palins' stance on war and peace.
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How is posting his stance bashing?
People are not supposed to compare the two?
OMG! Check out O's stance on immigration

Please note, these are from 2008 before the election, but I think they still hold true.


 


http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Immigration.htm


In fact, you can also check out Emanuel, Holder, McCain, Napolitano, Clinton, here:


http://www.ontheissues.org/Immigration.htm#Headlines


 


No more weird than
Pretty much the same thinking, especially in Arab countries.  Osama bin Laden was one of 52 children.  Course his father had 5 wives, which is allowed in Islam, but there are much larger families and not uncommon for a woman to have 16 to 20 children. 
Weird but at least they are all there.
Some of those candidate did not even appear on the ballots here in Texas. Standardization is the way to go...starting with campaign finance and working our way up the food chain through voter registration, ballot appearance, ballot method, paper trail, contingencies plans and STRONG, ENFORCED penalties for voter fraud and voter suppression, starting with at least a temporary, if not permanent suspension of voting rights for the offender, fine, jail time and public record disclosure of the offense.
ok, here goes - I know I'll get flamed, but I am firm on my stance. SM
Well over 50% of the American population is either Hispanic or African American (I am being conservative because it is probably higher). This population IMO voted for Obama because of his skin color, without researching his view on major issues that revolve around being capable of tackling the presidency of the U.S. I think it is only a matter of time when this will come back and kick all who voted for him in the "you know what." It's not about our ethnicity or religion, but rather about a candidate who is experienced enough to tackle the job. I just cringe at the fact that someone as inexperienced as Obama is now running this country.
Since when does questioning a stance on a single issue
"changing his mind?" In fact, it is media's JOB to exercise both sides of an argument (in the same way that debaters are required to argue both sides of a premise). The mere fact that a reporter is doing just that during a broadcast does not necessarily say anything whatsoever about his personal beliefs.
It would be even funnier if it was written by the guy with the "wide stance"
what is it with those guys and airports? Larry Craig - what a twit! At least Spitzer likes women! In this economy, it's probably the only guaranteed job - and tax-free!
It is a weird situation, for sure...
...but not really getting a good in-depth report on it from the news, have to think there MUST be more to the story - though can't think what in the world could explain such an attitude as prison is not going to help this offender (heard the judge himself say that). Whoever said prison was to HELP anybody? It's PUNISHMENT!

But then again, have never gotten the whole story- you never do on TV news, and have caught O'Reilly in numerous fabrications and exaggerations and grossly slanted panel discussions before, so who the heck knows!
There are just too many weird things
to not stop and wonder. Air traffic controllers who've been told to shut up...hgh level officials at NORAD...the list goes on. Too many unanswered questions, no?
Weird response...to say the least.

Keep voting, but isn't it weird
how people can feel so strongly about two different candidates claiming to want the same thing (to help us all) but are going to tackle it different ways (and each say the other's won't work right.) It's crazy!

I think they should not allow the candidates to say anything at all about the other. They should have to explain all their own policies as throughly as they can and then government should have a neutral panel (would need a panel to somehow make it neutral) to analize each of their plans (and calculate it out the best they can. The panel also could look into their voting records and explain to the public what they have been voting for (the whole of each and not just pieces like we hear about now to make the other sound bad).

It just seems there has to be a better way.
You people are weird
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What a weird person this is

Why are you so preoccupied with slutty women?  Who cares!  You have some underlying phobia regarding women and sex.  Weird!   


She was weird, wasn't she?

The no-political-stance rule applies both ways
this is not exclusive to just anti-war speakers. To remain non-profit pastors cannot endorse a political party or agenda, eventhough Reverends Jesse and Al do it all the time and they seem to get away with it. There is a church in my area who was threatened with having their non-profit status pulled due to the fact the pastor urged people to vote for Bush. Believe me this is not unilateral nor one sided.
Do you agree with this analysis of Jewish abortion stance? sm
Jewish beliefs and practice not neatly match either the "pro-life" nor the "pro-choice" points of view. The general principles of modern-day Judaism are that:

The fetus has great value because it is potentially a human life. It gains "full human status at birth only." 2

Abortions are not permitted on the grounds of genetic imperfections of the fetus.

Abortions are permitted to save the mother's life or health.

With the exception of some Orthodox authorities, Judaism supports abortion access for women.

"...each case must be decided individually by a rabbi well-versed in Jewish law." 5


Historical Christianity has considered "ensoulment," the point at which the soul enters the body) as the time when abortions should normally be prohibited. Belief about the timing of this event has varied from the instant of fertilization of the ovum, to 90 days after conception, or later. There has been no consensus among historical Jewish sources about when ensoulment happens. It is regarded as "one of the 'secrets of God' that will be revealed only when the Messiah comes."

I understand the moral stance, but feel the rhetoric is over-the-top.....sm
This man is NOT pro-abortion, as many of us are not. He is preserving the right of choice for ALL women, and does not believe that a poor woman who has undergone a rape, incest, domestic violince/intimidation situation, or even has just accidentally gotten pregnant with a child she cannot carry for medical, emotional, or financial reasons....I hate abortion also, but if Americans are to be equal, then a poor woman needs to have resources available to her which would be available to others, or you are damning her to the back-alley abortionists. That is reality. I, Myself, married 18 years, vigilantly spacing my children and on birth control, came up with an unexpected, very difficult pregnancy. Yes, we made the choice to love and take this baby into the world, but we also had SOME resources and family, some girls do not.

There are not many folk who are PRO ABORTION, but preserving the individual choice, though abhorrent to many of us, is part of true liberty. And God Himself will judge as appropriate.

And I do feel that those few who use abortion as a means of birth control, well there should be restrictions and a definite "no."
a weird statement in this article

"Scarborough, no longer obligated to toe the pathetic Republican Party line, says it's totally irrelevant if Joe Wilson is a preening partisan who misled investigators about the role his wife played in recommending his Niger trip. The frantic efforts of the GOP attack machine to change the subject to Wilson shows how scared Republicans are that the master of their universe will be held accountable for Rove's destructive carelessness.


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So, Joe Scarborough and this columnist is admitting that Wilson mislead, but it's irrelevant.  So, what's I'm getting out of this is that it does not matter what we know Wilson did but it matters a whole lot about what we don't know for sure Karl Rove did.


That's just not passing the smell test one bit with me.


Sorry for double post - weird
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it is not very presidential appearing and to me is just weird
she allowed herself to be drawn into that, what else would she do - I mean, she is too wishy-washy for my trust, goes in too many different directions, too scattered, haphazard...these are my opinions about her capabilities as a president, not a personal attack.

not to mention, if the black man did this he would have been gone from candidacy a long time ago.
that's weird. maybe m's post can explain..nm
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Weird car shopping experience
Late last fall I was making the rounds of used car lots.  Did not see anything I liked and three salesmen made a big show of writing down what I was looking for and taking my phone number.  I was afraid I would be swamped with calls, even if they did not get anything remotely near what I wanted.  However, nobody called - ever. This has severely damaged the image I've always had about car salesmen as pests!   I think things were rough even six months ago, and wondering why they let a hot prospect like me get away.  I did end up getting a car....